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Anonymous
1:00 PM
you don't know about it ?
 
Anonymous
oh? then what can you do? :O
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(hobbyist) <- that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computer_security) <- not that
 
Anonymous
okok
 
Anonymous
if so, why didn't you respond to my question ?
 
which?
 
Anonymous
1:04 PM
how big is your 2nd plugin
 
Anonymous
how many bytes is the jar file of your second plugin
 
i'll look it up
 
Anonymous
right click
 
Anonymous
properties
 
Anonymous
1:06 PM
!!
 
Anonymous
not proprieties
 
Anonymous
xD
 
I don't have it on my local environment, it's on my other computer (work computer) in the wan. have to download it first.
 
Anonymous
do it
 
on it.
 
Anonymous
1:08 PM
i meant download it
 
Anonymous
 
I like how the file size increments when you open its properties until it lands on the actual size..
 
Anonymous
are you trying to hypnotize me ?
 
Its compressed jar is 91.6 MB, its source code is 88.1 MB.
 
Anonymous
how many porn movies have you added in it ?
 
1:13 PM
none
 
Anonymous
hahahahahaha
 
ha ufunny
(not)
 
Anonymous
it is very big
 
Anonymous
wow
 
Anonymous
i've never reached 100k bytes
 
Anonymous
1:17 PM
i see lot of closed packages
 
Anonymous
let me see classes
 
when expanded they don't even fit the dialogue..
what's the command in prompt to list structure of files?
seed ~ ?
 
Anonymous
idk
 
??? it's tree \, but it doesnt work
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
1:21 PM
^ @Unihedron
 
^ lol small window @Joiner
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron it is the entire project
 
Anonymous
i did not see your last removed message
 
i'm trying to get it to expand and capture it within the window
the hierarchy is too big
 
Anonymous
tell me how many rows has the biggest class
 
1:28 PM
so you want me to click through all my classes now? :)
 
Anonymous
i do not know oop very well so i use abstract classes to collect static methods and i put each event in their class and each command in their class
 
Anonymous
next plugin i want to avoid static methods
 
Anonymous
probably i will post a question on the site
 
good class design is good..
you can talk to the java people about them

Java

Dedicated to the discussion of the Java programming language a...
(I am a room owner there as well, so I can help push the messages back here if they get off-topic :) )
 
Anonymous
my util class is 278 rows
 
1:31 PM
if only @AvinashRaj was here to throw a bash command..
@Joiner my average class is about ~500 rows...
 
Anonymous
it is the biggest class
 
how about this...
Tell a random number, and I will click into the nth class from upside counting, so it's random enough, and tell you the row size
 
Anonymous
Random.nextInt(numberOfClasses)
 
error cannot access non-static method nextInt() from static context
 
Anonymous
it is an example
 
Anonymous
1:34 PM
when i write example code
 
Anonymous
i replace variables with class names
 
numberOfClasses = 61;
var rand = integer(numberOfClasses * Math.random());
the number is 5
 
Anonymous
in these cases
 
Anonymous
use vb
 
Anonymous
    Dim valore As New Random
    Console.WriteLine(valore.Next(61) + 1)
 
Anonymous
1:37 PM
first output was 61 :D :D
 
Anonymous
then 19
 
633 lines for the 5th class
421 lines for the 61th class
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
this is the not-util biggest class
 
19th class is of 21 lines, it's an enum
@Joiner Ugh, it's not english.
 
Anonymous
1:39 PM
java is the general language ;)
 
Anonymous
a*
 
You can edit your messages. Check out the help pages too.
 
Anonymous
i know
 
Anonymous
but this is chat
 
Anonymous
not an answer
 
1:40 PM
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Aug 30 at 9:47, by Infinite Recursion
@Silent: Avoid intermittent lols, add something more substantial. Even the chatrooms on SE have standards regarding quality. If you notice, none of the other users are writing "lols".
 
Anonymous
4, 56, 41, 54, 13, 13, 21, 56, 31, 30, 43
 
Anonymous
code:
 
Anonymous
    Dim generatore As New Random
    Dim messaggio As String
    For indice As Integer = 0 To 10
        Dim numero As Integer = valore.Next(61) + 1
        messaggio = messaggio + numero.ToString + ", "
    Next
    Clipboard.SetText(messaggio)
 
visual basic? my eyes are bleeding..
 
Anonymous
why
 
Anonymous
1:49 PM
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
ok, but why
 
I wanted to move the messages to VB room but there is no such :(
 
Anonymous
1:52 PM
it is useful if you need to build GUI applications
 
I use swing, in java
 
Anonymous
it is difficult
 
Anonymous
you do not have an IDE that helps you
 
I have Eclipse Java, will be switching to IntelliJ soon
a real programmer should be able to code in every language :)
 
Anonymous
in fact, i use vb to develop GUI apps for windows, and java to build bukkit plugins
 
1:55 PM
I'm learning C# to help with @Sam's bot, use Bash and Perl for everyday usage, Java for bukkit plugins and JMS to connect to IRC server, and used to use ActionScript
 
Anonymous
have you ever logged in mc.ghostwar.net ?
 
Sam
@Unihedron If you need any help learning, just ping meh ;)
 
@Sam help pls ma code wont compile aaaaaa
@Joiner what's that?
@Joiner look, another poor question in minecraft tag
 
Sam
@Unihedron Have you installed the C# magic fixer jQuery plugin?
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron the cracked server with 300 online i develop
 
1:57 PM
@Sam i should totally try jQuery
@Joiner no, haven't heard of it, sorry
 
Anonymous
it is not international, but it will become
 
Anonymous
what ?????
 
Anonymous
so people put bukkit questions under minecraft tag ???
 
Anonymous
so i lost tons of questions ???
 
@Joiner told you it's full of non-questions
 
Anonymous
1:59 PM
adding minecraft to favorite tags..
 
Anonymous
i don't understand github
 
users misuse minecraft forge questions with [minecraft] [forge] too, @Joiner
 
Anonymous
i hate mods, i do not know about forge
 
do you do source control?
 
Anonymous
2:02 PM
that is.. ?
 
do you work with colleagues?
 
Sam
do you walk with your hands?
do you drink milk upside down?
 
Anonymous
please explain
 
Sam
do you ... ;D
I'm just playing around.
 
lol, i'm just curious.
 
Sam
2:04 PM
I'm just trying to continue the chain.
 
Anonymous
now explain please
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron
 
What?
 
Anonymous
4 mins ago, by Unihedron
do you do source control?
 
@Joiner have you heard of source control?
 
2:06 PM
Revision control, also known as version control and source control (and an aspect of software configuration management), is the management of changes to documents, computer programs, large web sites, and other collections of information. Changes are usually identified by a number or letter code, termed the "revision number", "revision level", or simply "revision". For example, an initial set of files is "revision 1". When the first change is made, the resulting set is "revision 2", and so on. Each revision is associated with a timestamp and the person making the change. Revisions can be compared...
@Joiner ^
 
o/
 
Sam
\o/
 
Anonymous
versioning ?
 
Anonymous
i don't know about this
 
Anonymous
2:09 PM
i put version to 1.7.9-R0.2 in my plugin.yml
 
don't worry about it, I was just curious
 
Anonymous
set*
 
Have you worked with sk's CommandHelper? @Joiner
 
Anonymous
i heard about command helper in a plugin i do not remember
 
Anonymous
but it was a command
 
Anonymous
2:12 PM
is it an api of we ?
 
Anonymous
now i remember
 
Anonymous
it was mypet
 
Anonymous
there is a subcommand called command helper
 
nope not that
it's a scripting environment in minecraft server
Hey @Joiner, I was just wondering, is it possible to reuse a BukkitRunnable? like:
for (int i = 0; i < 30; i++)
    .runTaskLater(this, bukkitRunnable, i)
 
Anonymous
i just asked a question on bukkitrunnable on bukkit forums forums.bukkit.org/threads/…
 
Anonymous
2:15 PM
do this:
 
chatty comments to flag~!
wait, I've been here..
 
Anonymous
ExampleTask task = new ExampleTask();
task.runTask(Plugin);
task.runTaskLater(Plugin, Long);
 
Anonymous
^ @Unihedron
 
So it's ok to call task.runTask(plugin, i) in a loop to reuse?
 
Anonymous
i don't know
 
Anonymous
2:18 PM
test it
 
Anonymous
if it is not possible
 
Anonymous
use multiple instances
 
Anonymous
like this:
 
Anonymous
for (int i = 0; i < 30; i++) {
    ExampleTask task = new ExampleTask(i);
    task.runTask(Plugin);
}
 
Anonymous
you can use the constructor
 
Anonymous
2:19 PM
to "set the work" for each instance
 
new is expensive.
 
Anonymous
do you mean instances use lot of resources ?
 
Anonymous
the problem of mc is not ram @Unihedron
 
Anonymous
the problem of mc is cpu
 
No, they are both, and is why I prefer C++ over Java for most things
 
Anonymous
2:26 PM
you can solve memory by adding lot of ram (16 works fine i think)
 
16? and unit? o_O
 
Anonymous
but you can't solve cpu by lowering ticks
 
Anonymous
playermoveevent doesn't work over 50 players
 
Anonymous
unit ?
 
um... do you know what units are?
 
Anonymous
2:28 PM
no..
 
Anonymous
i'm not a developer
 
oh.
 
Anonymous
what is it ?
 
Sam
@Pro Do you if it's possible to read a WebBrowser element's console output?
 
@Sam can you override the print stream?.
 
Sam
2:31 PM
@Unihedron Keyword word, WebBrowser :)
 
ah.
 
Sam
It's a GUI element
I'm using it in WPF and I needz to readz deh console.
 
Anonymous
@Sam do you need to show a webbrowser control in a console app ?
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron what are units ?
 
Sam
@Joiner No. I need to read the browser's console.
 
Anonymous
2:36 PM
@Unihedron is dead
 
@Joiner units are measurement of things. numbers without units are not very helpful for readers.
See: "This file is 15". vs "This file is 15 kbs".
Sorry, was dealing with the parrot.
 
Anonymous
i thought they are parts of cpu...
 
Anonymous
i don't know english, but now i know units means en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_measurement
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron you should deal with your parrot few times per day or you will have problems in the future
 
I know, right?
 
Anonymous
2:41 PM
i'm fun at the moment because i learnt a new expression: deal with parrot
 
Anonymous
hahahahahahah
 
I have a parrot as a pet irl.
ha?
 
@Sam Errmm... no idea.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Ok, thx anyway.
 
Anonymous
 
Sam
2:43 PM
I'll take a look...
 
@Sam I doubt it...
 
@Joiner Hey it's Psychemaster!
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron that is.. ?
 
@Joiner The person who wrote the answer.
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron so.. ?
 
2:46 PM
And someone who is in this room sometimes.
 
Yeah. Good person.
 
@sam if it is possible you would need something like this: create a new prototype for console and console.log, have that output by appending to an html element and read the html element from the c# code...
 
Anonymous
@Unihedron i am a repeating task that checks every 6000L ticks the bukkit tag
 
Sam
@rene Hmm, ok I'll probably end up doing that. Thx.
 
@Joiner why not stare at /realtime?
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
i am over you :P
 
Anonymous
loooooooooser
 
If there were any questions for me to answer to begin with I would gladly answer them. I just went over this with you earlier.
 
Anonymous
joiner 2nd unihedron 5°
 
Anonymous
:P
 
Anonymous
2:49 PM
jon skeet does not know about bukkit but is the 2nd general top answerer
 
The tag should just be destroyed, along with tehhe questions.
 
@Sam Basically webbrowser is a managed wrapper around this COM interface: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa752127(v=vs.85).aspx
 
Anonymous
this means: most of bukkit tagged questions are from people who does not really know about java...
 
Hey, I have a total tag score of 3 for bukkit. You only have 2.
 
Anonymous
i do not see you in the general list of top answerers
 
Anonymous
2:52 PM
what matters are answers, not comments :P
 
Guess what?
I'm going to write the best [bukkit] self-Q&A ever. It's going to get a score of 100 on its own and make me the only tag badge holder for bukkit.
 
Anonymous
what is a tag badge holder ?
 
Sam
@rene I'll check it out.
 
Tag badges are awarded for 100, 400 and 1000 non-cw answer total score on a tag (the tag score of a user): stackoverflow.com/help/badges?tab=tags&filter=bronze . No-one has a tag badge for bukkit yet. stackoverflow.com/tags/bukkit/topusers even the highest score all-timer only has 52 total score on bukkit
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
2:57 PM
you shared our chat
 
Anonymous
why
 
Sam
@rene Can't see anything related to the console. Oh well, I'll have to fallback on HTML scraping, again.
 
@Joiner I share a lot of chats. Scroll down.
Set to friends only privacy setting for that post now. :P
 
Anonymous
you are over me with the total tag score, but... look at this :P
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
3:00 PM
^ @Unihedron
 
lol
(secretly owns the biggest minecraft network)
 
Anonymous
i read 320 and 14, you ?
 
Anonymous
(he's trying to speak about another argument to ignore the image)
 
(everyone cares)
 
Anonymous
3:03 PM
you said right
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
^ @Unihedron
 
Anonymous
12 mins ago, by Unihedron
(secretly owns the biggest minecraft network)
 
Anonymous
you said right :)
 
Sam
3:56 PM
@Bjb hiya
 
hiya @bjb568
 
Hi @bjb568!
 
4:25 PM
Yesh?
 
Sam
Yesh?
 
Yesh?
 
4:40 PM
Yesh?
 
 
3 hours later…
7:50 PM
Yesh?
 
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