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1:12 AM
@rlemon it was secondRikudo (one of the majority) to complain, and 30 people (including me) upvoted him till now... and actually, I would request you to forget that last sentence of mine, it wasn't what I had to say... I was in a hurry and just typed anything. would continue the discussion if required...
 
no need (for me) I had no idea what the prior conversion (previous to me joining in) was, I just chimed in my two cents based on the on screen messages
 
ok
 
 
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6:56 AM
morning!
 
Good morning!
 
7:39 AM
morning!
 
Sam
8:10 AM
Morning!
 
 
1 hour later…
user456814
9:36 AM
Ping.
 
Hi @Cupcake !!!
 
user456814
@Unihedron Hello!
 
Can I have your autograph??
 
user456814
Sure, gimme a sec...
 
:D :D
 
user456814
9:38 AM
Make that a few minutes :P
 
I can wait ^^
 
user456814
 
user456814
How did you know someone was in here already?
 
user456814
Ah ha.
 
user456814
9:42 AM
Makes sense.
 
user456814
I hope you like cupcakes.
 
Yes indeed. Nothing interesting over here anyway.
 
user456814
Because I have a lot of them.
 
Cupcakes are the best! :D
 
user456814
I hear that Stjin is trying to make this room more active though.
 
9:44 AM
I'm only a little part :)
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Oh?
By the way, did you see that @Sam became an owner of this room?
 
@Unihedron this room was pretty much dead until recently
yeah I saw
 
@Stijn Oh I see!
 
user456814
I wonder if Stack Overflow has any more dancers...
 
user456814
I know a few developers here who dance.
 
user456814
9:45 AM
I'm slowly seeing if people are interested in this:
 
user456814
6
Dance

Proposed Q&A site for enthusiast recreational dancers and professional dance performers and instructors across a variety of dance genres, including (but not limited to) ballet, salsa, hip-hop, belly, and pole dancing. If you dance at least once a week, then we want you!

Currently in definition.

 
I don't like to dance
 
user456814
Not all nerds do :P
 
user456814
I suppose :/
 
Followed! Not a fan of dance but I like to dance randomly at late night. Helps staying awake.
 
user456814
9:47 AM
This is pretty cool, if you're into Justin Timberlake songs:
 
on festivals I spend more time lying down than standing up, while drifting away to the music
 
user456814
 
user456814
There's dancing in there, I promise.
 
user456814
It's after the pretty lady in the beginning.
 
user456814
Uh oh, time for me to go back and bake in the oven.
 
user456814
9:48 AM
Later alligators.
 
user456814
But before I go...
 
Oh?
 
user456814
Have another cupcake:
 
user456814
 
Sam
10:01 AM
@Cupcake Hiya
We'll have to get @rene to add that pic to the cupcake machine.
 
Afternoon!
 
Good afternoon!
 
Sam
Afternoon!
Hmm, rene missed the afternoon ritual. We just might have to deduct points for that.
I'm off for lunch...
 
10:19 AM
See you!
 
seeya
 
Sam
10:43 AM
And back...
 
Welcome back!
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Oh btw, last night I finally perfected the rate limit function.
@Unihedron Thx
 
@Sam Interesting!
Is it this one?
16 hours ago, by Sam
@rene Here is it finally (I won't update it again) Math.Min((4.1484 * Math.Log(x) + 1.02242), 20).
 
Sam
Yeah.
This time it stays at 20 secs not matter how many messages. And the curve is more accurate.
It took a couple of hours though.
 
Sam
11:23 AM
XKCD pic of the day...
 
I like yesterday's
 
Sam
I haven't seen that one yet.
Lol. Not bad.
 
Lunch time, cya!
 
Sam
Cya
 
see you!
 
Sam
11:30 AM
Don't you just love it when you go to rename your root git repo directory and end up losing all your day's work :|
 
How does that happen?
 
@Sam huh?
 
Sam
I had to change my root directory name, which then caused git to play up when I went to commit, so I had to end deleting my local repo and just clone.
 
oh... that sucks
I usually backup before I do any changes, but eh.
 
Sam
Yeah. Thankfully there weren't too many changes, still it's a pain.
 
11:34 AM
Ah. Well, good luck! :)
 
Sam
Thanks. It'll only set me back ~2 hours.
(Famous last words...) ;)
 
On the positive side, with the experience you gained from the first write-up you should be able to produce better code now :)
 
Sam
@Stijn Good point; well, the code was actually quite buggy when I left it. :)
 
Sam
12:20 PM
@rene And he returns... WB. ;)
 
12:31 PM
tnx, I'm at work so a little bit busy....
 
Sam
Ok, I won't pester you for cupcakes then.
 
!!huh
!!cupcake
not running I guess
 
you guys have your own fork or you mean for Caprica to be here?
 
rene has started a fork
 
cool
 
12:35 PM
or started from scratch, not sure
 
Sam
rene's got a client side bot.
 
@rene check out Ziraks bot
you might enjoy it
we're (mostly not me) working on a node port
 
@rene Why do you keep removing the command to start the bot? It's in the source, and it's only accessible for you.
 
12:40 PM
@rlemon I'll check it out tonight at home
 
Sam
!!cupcake
 
One cupcake on it's way
@ProgramFOX bad habbits?
 
ah
!!cupcake
 
@rene she (the bot) runs in the sandbox if anyone wants to play
 
Out of dough...
 
12:41 PM
CapricaSix is the bot account
 
One cupcake for @Sam
 
Sam
@rlemon Yeah, I've seen it before in the C# room.
 
fun fact: Zirak built the bot on one christmas eve because he was bored and wanted someone to play hangman with.
 
Sam
Lol, it plays hangman too?
 
@Sam Yep
 
Sam
12:44 PM
Nice.
 
Start a new game using the !!hang command and to choose a letter, use !!hang letter/word.
 
that was its sole intent :P then grew exponentially. now also controls things like room access, and even a built in js parser
 
I tried to start writing a bot in C# last night, but documentation on ClientWebSocket is non-existent
 
Sam
So who actually owns the account?
 
me
Zirak wrote 99% of the code
I just host the account
 
12:47 PM
Lol, nice system. :)
 
Sam
Oh right.
 
in Sandbox, 57 secs ago, by Caprica Six
@ProgramFOX You people suck. The word is wove
:D
 
Sam
lol
 
@Stijn lol, you now start to night with public class ClientWebSocket:Socket {
 
yea she has a lot of Ziraks personality woven into her :P
 
Sam
12:48 PM
@Stijn Have you seen the MSDN docs?
 
I once tried to use WebSockets in C#, but it complained that the protocol wasn't implemented or something like that.
 
Sam
That's why I use UDP, when possible.
 
> Unhandled Exception: System.PlatformNotSupportedException: The WebSocket protocol is not supported on this platform.
 
Sam
Rather than messing around with TCP handshakes, etc, etc. I also hear UDP can be 3x faster than TCP.
 
12:53 PM
@Sam yeah but usually the docs are of higher quality, containing full working examples.
Now I just have a list of methods and a short description
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX SafetyOverLoadException was thrown at Brain.dll!Logic.ProcessInput() 0x36
 
@Stijn What about the following code? (untested, as it have an error about the protocol)
async static void WebSocketTest(string msg)
{
    ClientWebSocket cws = new ClientWebSocket();
    await cws.ConnectAsync(new Uri("ws://echo.websocket.org"), CancellationToken.None);
    byte[] messageBytes = Encoding.Default.GetBytes(msg);
    ArraySegment<byte> messageSegment = new ArraySegment<byte>(messageBytes);
    await cws.SendAsync(messageSegment, WebSocketMessageType.Text, true, CancellationToken.None);
    ArraySegment<byte> resp = new ArraySegment<byte>();
    WebSocketReceiveResult result = await cws.ReceiveAsync(resp, CancellationToken.None);
 
@ProgramFOX I'll give that a go when I get home, thanks
 
and WebSockets are only implemented on Windows 8 and Server 2012
 
12:55 PM
Ah
I run Windows 7, that explains it.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Yeah I know, there's the possibility of data not arriving in the right order (or not at all). One of the unfortunate trade-offs with speed :/
 
@Sam Yeah, it depends on what you need. If it's important that everything arrives (in a chat client for example), I'd choose TCP. If a single packet of data can be missed, UDP can be used.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Indeed. Well, when it comes to sending messages, I suppose order isn't that important. Still, I guess it's not worth the risk.
 
I wouldn't want to take the risk of undelivered messages when I'd create a chat application :P
 
Sam
Just think of the bug as a feature for adding suspense ;)
 
1:00 PM
:)
 
in Sandbox, 33 secs ago, by Caprica Six
@Unihedron Correct! The word is adjoins.
 
G'day everyone
 
Oh hey there!
 
Hi @Wingpad!
 
Sam
Hi
@Stijn Finally finished. I'm actually thankful I lost my last day's work 'cause now I've managed to kill those bugs and rewrite the code at the same time, without even trying to. :D
 
1:08 PM
good :D
 
its a gift, you don't always get second chances :)
 
Sam
@Unihedron Yeah; I think if I did though, I'd probably end up losing all my work instead.
 
... Could be worse. No guarrantees your HDD will live another day - statistically speaking, it will die.
Seriously, back it up now. Lol.
 
Sam
Lol, I do ;)
 
Does @̮̘̮̜̤͓͓̓ͪ̓͆͗̑Ṷ̫̠̤̙̻͚̗ͭs̹͓̰̫͉̲̺̈̏̽̅̑ͩ̇̓̉e͖̝̦̦̿r͔̒̿̋̂̓n̹͖̥ͥͦͤ̍͊̏ä͇͖͚͖̃̎͊m̭̂͆͋̋͒‌​͇e̫̠͇̰̱̦̹͗͋̓̿͒ ͔͖̫̬̗̪̪̳ͧ̄ͫ really work?
 
1:11 PM
Yep
 
Sam
@̹̺͕̯ͅU̞͈̗̹͂̐̂͌̋͗ͮn̝͎ȉ̬͔̼̻̿h͕̯̭̘ͩ͗ͅeͭd͍͚̩̘̗̥̞ͭr̗͙̤̘̦̗̂͂͊͂ͅo͓̱̪̺̊̾ͪn̙̞̫̜̲̥ Yep
Speaking of HDDs, d'you know what's the average life span is?
 
sǝop ʇı uoɹpǝɥıun@
 
Depends on how much you bought it for. If it's a prebuilt, don't be an optimist, maybe like 1-2 years.
 
Sam
@Unihedron "prebuilt" as in laptop HDDs?
 
yes
 
1:14 PM
I've had ones that failed after 1-2 months in custom rigs
 
^ ... Yeah.
 
Sam
Right, so mine could die in a couple of secs then. Good thing I've an external one. ^.^
 
or just RAID1 all the things!
 
Any method which duplicates data is a good method.
 
Sam
Except in code...
 
1:15 PM
You know, potential for anything. ;)
 
Sam
Yeah. Especially for money ;)
 
hahaha xD
 
xD xD
 
@Sam lol
 
Sam
Just thought it would be a good idea to have that up there.
 
1:20 PM
I'm still new to Stack Overflow - Only been here for 2 months :o
 
Sam
And you've already got over 1.5K, nice.
 
@Unihedron I'm "new" to Stack Overflow, while I've been a member for something like 2 years I've been a consistent lurker
 
lol I deserve 7 "yearling" badges, but I have none :p
 
Sam
Same, I only just recently "came out of the shadows".
 
Fun times! :)
 
1:24 PM
yeah I'm not too helpful either, I mean everytime I try to answer someone's question I make a really nice answer with code examples and a link to IDEOne and then when I go to post it is like "2 answers already posted" which are like one sentence, bleh
 
I feel you.
In fact, I've had to post a sentence first, then edit later...
 
Sam
That's why I only answer old questions.
Or my own.
 
Hehe.
 
@Sam like how old are we talking?
 
I need to ask more.
 
Sam
1:25 PM
@Wingpad I'll check, just a mo...
@Wingpad It varies, I've answered posts that have been, 3 months, 4 months, and even 3 years old.
 
Wow! You asked this question!
194
Q: What are the dangers when creating a thread with a stack size of 50x the default?

SamI'm currently working on a very performance critical program and one path I decided to explore that may help reduce resource consumption was increasing my worker threads' stack size so I can move most of the data (float[]s) that I'll be accesing onto the stack (using stackalloc). I've read that...

 
Sam
Yeah.
 
I've seen it before, never knew it was you... :P
 
Sam
When I first posted that I thought it would only get a couple of UVs.
It even had a CV for being unclear lol
 
lol thank god noone did a event
 
1:28 PM
@Sam well I guess I'll have a whack at some of ye' olde questions at some point. I need to start building my rep; like I can't even comment :p
 
@Wingpad oh you do :p or you can earn 200 rep on some other SE site to get the affl. bonus
 
Sam
@Wingpad Don't expect to get many UVs though.
 
UVs?
 
Upvotes
 
Ah
 
Sam
1:30 PM
My 3 latest answers haven't yet... and they were 20 days ago.
 
Actually, thanks to the Late Answers queue, you potentially might benefit from that since you have lower rep, @Wingpad
more people will see your answers and up/downvote where necessary
 
Sam
Good point, hadn't thought of that.
 
@Unihedron Only your first answer appears in that queue.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX No, the first few appear.
 
Ah, I didn't realize that. It doesn't really matter too much; I'm generally a more chat oriented rather than forums kind of guy. I'm a happy lurker xD
 
1:31 PM
I think that's First Post though. I've seen ~30 rep users' answers in LA queue
 
@Sam oh
Didn't know that.
 
Sam
Actually @Unihedron might be right, I think it's FP, not FA. I can't remember exactly. All I know is one of those shows the first few posts/answers/whatever.
 
*LA (Late Answers)
 
Yes, only your first post appears in FP. I thought it was the same for LA, but I might be wrong about that.
 
I think it's a few late answers for each user.
But don't quote me on that.
 
Sam
1:36 PM
I know there's a comment somewhere. (goes comment hunting...)
 
Good luck! Hunt us a quine for good food. :)
 
Sam
Lol
 
Speaking about food, I'm going to make an omelette. Enjoy yourselves!
 
Sam
You too!
Well, I found the post, but the comment author deleted all her comments :/
 
... Aww.
Or they were flagged and a moderator removed them.
 
Sam
1:39 PM
No, I (kinda) know the user, she likes to clean up her comments quite often.
 
Found something:
> The way the late answers queue works is by checking two things.

Was the answer posted at least 30 days after the question was asked?
Was the answer posted by a user who has 10 or less reputation (disregarding suspension)
If both of these are true, it is entered into the review queue until it eventually gets reviewed.
 
Sam
Good fox, have a cupcake
!!cupcake
 
Seems like the vending machine is turned off :(
 
Sam
Not again :/
I'll make some...
Done.
 
:D yum
 
1:43 PM
Yummy!
 
One answer posted, many more to go on the path of helpfulness
 
Sam
@Wingpad I've edited one of your Qs, but you'll need to come up with a more descirptive title though.
 
Mmm, delicious information. @Wingpad, you might want to format your text a little though, use some paragraphs.
 
@Sam if you could just delete that one it would be excellent
 
Sam
@Wingpad Delete the post?
 
1:50 PM
@Wingpad But considering it has 445 views you should probably keep it, might help someone.
 
Sam
I can't do that. Only: you, Mods, and high rep users can.
 
It was an issue with my hex editor, the code was functional
so I guess I might want to further correct it
 
If a post has low views and low rating, it automatically gets cleaned up anyway.
 
Sam
It's your choice, but you'll increase the chances of getting a Q ban. Best to just leave it to get naturally deleted as @Unihedron said.
 
@sam I just did
 
1:52 PM
A Question ban? Oh well it's on hold now
 
not a ban
 
@Bohemian Thanks! Now the question will just fade off, no side effects.
 
Sam
I was just saying that deleting your questions increases the threshold for getting banned.
 
Ah
well, it was a younger, stupider version of me that asked that question
 
It should have been closed cos it's not actually a problem
 
Sam
1:54 PM
I completely forgot Bohemian was a Mod. Lol, thanks.
 
I used to delete a lot of my answers that gets downvotes, but then I learned that I might get banned. Oh well, at least I learned.
 
Sam
Better late, than never. ;)
 
yep, I've learned more as well and I intend to continue learning more
 
hang on, deleting bad answers is a good thing
 
... What?!
 
1:56 PM
@Bohemian what about duplicate answers that were slightly late?
 
@Wingpad Those are not really 'bad'.
 
Sam
@Unihedron My sentiments exactly.
 
deleting your own downvoted answers is enouraged
 
Sam
@Bohemian Any posts with more details?
 
my keyboard is dying
 
1:57 PM
We all are.
 
Ah, because my aforementioned scenario has happened many times :p
I will be back in like 1/2 hr, thanks for all the info guys
 
See you!
 
Sam
Alright, cya
 
@Wingpad see you!
 
1:58 PM
@Bohemian I take it as an honor that I don't have "the" badge.
 
Sam
@Bohemian Yeah, but that's a badge.
 
i have it :/
 
Good game.
 
Sam
Same (got it when I first joined) :|
 
badges exist to encourage behaviour
 
Sam
1:59 PM
Even Jon Skeet has it.
 
Ah, I see.
 
Sam
True, just thought there would've been more than a bronze badge though.
 
We should all delete our bad answers to improve the overall Q&A quality I agree, but I thought I read up somewhere that too much bad quality contribution (even if deleted) might get you banned.
 
Sam
I know that definitely applies to questions; I'm not sure anymore about answers.
 
@Unihedron That's true, but if you just delete some downvoted answers, but still have many upvoted ones, I don't think you'll get banned.
 
2:02 PM
Thanks for the citation! :)
 
you can always visit meta to find answers to these Qs
 
Meta is a good playground for the soul. :)
 
Sam
But, Meta's a dark scary place!
 
Yeah because people can downvote for free and no daily cap.
 
if you want to learn about "how SO works" go there
 
Sam
2:04 PM
@Unihedron And they often do. But that Q deserves the DVs though ;)
 
I do like the main site - meta site system, though. Very clean. Keeps discussion and actual clockwork running.
 
@Sam in the beginning, yes
 
+2/-61... wow
 
I was intimidated by Meta and by the Tavern on MSE at the start
 
Sam
Same here.
@Unihedron Now it's +2/-63 . The Meta Effect in action again lol
 
2:07 PM
I casted my DV as well, so now it's +2/-65. Good game.
 
Hmm, it does not appear at the bottom on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions?page=88&sort=votes
 
Sam
It's at the bottom for me.
 
for me it's "Contention: should points be completely eliminated on SO?" at -54
bloody caching
 
Sam
 
Same here, I get the -54 question on the bottom.
 
2:19 PM
back
 
Sam
Wb
 
Welcome back!
 
Welcome back @Wingpad!
 
Thanks everybody :)
 
Sam
@Stijn And after 10 mins of searching, I've finally found it: http://shouldiblamecaching.com/
4
 
 
2 hours later…
I've finally found a theme that makes Eclipse look like XCode on my mac... I feel like my life is complete now. (See @Unihedron 's later message)
 
Enlighten me? I use eclipse...
 
Sam
Post the link in a new message. Make sure it actually point to a pic though.
(if you wanted to display it)
 
using the source code pro font
 
4:24 PM
OMG YES thank you so much!!!!
I'm working with a terrible hacked color theme setting I made myself:
 
I was using Wombat for a while but I got tired of the inconsistencies
 
you have no idea - this gets pathetic after all this time
 
Sam
A pretty rainbow :P
 
thank you :D i'm not really liking it though, but never got motivated enough to change it again
so much to do, so little motivation
 
I feel ya' there
 
Sam
4:28 PM
Same
Still haven't upgraded to VS 2013 yet lol
 
xD
 
Sam
I'm on 2012 with Resharper atm, so I won't be up'ing for a while.
 
Ah, I haven't really had to use VS for a while so I don't even have it installed on my Windows partition. Are you doing C# development or something else?
 
Sam
Yeah, I only use C#.
Hoping to (properly) learn C++ later though.
So I still won't need to move from VS.
 
C++ is one of those languages I "know," I am aware of the structures and etc. but I do not know the C++ way of thinking
like when I start to look at the Boost library I get lost
 
Sam
4:39 PM
I hardly know that much. I can just about translate snippets to C#.
 
user456814
Is it ok to request close votes in here?
 
Sam
I'd say sure.
People do it anyway.
 
user456814
Ok, well in that case, INCOMING!:
 
user456814
4:43 PM
Those two already have close votes for a canonical, need 3 more.
 
user456814
Here's the canonical for that last one stackoverflow.com/questions/5195859/…
 
user456814
While I'm here...
 
user456814
Have a cupcake:
 
user456814
 
Sam
(nom nom nom)
 
!!go
 
Sam
!!cupcake
 
One cupcake on it's way
One cupcake for @Sam
@Cupcake I've hit all of those earlier. You could also crosspost in the SO Close voters room
 
Sam
I've flagged them all too, I can't VtC atm though.
 
4:53 PM
Let's see if I didn't use all of my braincapacity to get that throttle thingy working..
 
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