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6:25 PM
room topic changed to 2014 Stack Overflow Moderator Election: For discussion surrounding the 2014 moderator election: stackoverflow.com/election/5 (no tags)
 
8:10 PM
The rules state: In the nomination phase, any community member in good standing with more than 3,000 reputation may nominate themselves to be a community moderator. It sure seems that reputation plays a much larger role. Just curious. Why is the reputation level so low? When was the last time someone with a low reputation was nominated?
 
@CodeMaverick They had to set the bar somewhere. 3,000 is reasonable.
Whether or not someone with 3k would be elected or not, that's up to the community :)
 
How much does having prior moderator experience (on other sites) help?
 
Think it was 2k last year
 
@ChrisForrence Would you prefer to elect someone with prior moderation experience?
Honestly
 
@MadaraUchiha - Fair enough
 
8:14 PM
:)
 
@MadaraUchiha - I understand. I just don't see how someone with a low reputation, say under 10k, would even get considered.
 
@CodeMaverick Because he could have 3k on Stack Overflow, but 50K on serverfault, and is a moderator there.
3k does not indicate a level of experience with Stack Exchange, just with Stack Overflow.
 
@MadaraUchiha Good point!
 
And yeah, 3k can or cannot be plenty of experience with one site. That's up to the community to decide :)
So, who's running this time round?
 
@MadaraUchiha: You, of course!
 
8:17 PM
That's a given, but I'd like to check the competition :D
 
3K is a minimum. I can imagine someone doing a lot of work related to quality (editing, flagging, commenting) without doing enough answering to build a ton of rep.
 
I'll hold off this time around and try and gain more moderator-like experience first
 
@ChrisForrence I recommend participating in a beta site, privilege limit there is lower, so you can get to delete and flag privileges faster.
 
@Caleb: But you'll need at least 2K reputation points to make edits (not suggested edits), so yeah, 3K is a minimum.
 
You can also follow proposals on [area51] and become a pro-temp, that's the route I've taken.
 
8:19 PM
@Caleb - Yea, that's more along the lines of what I was thinking. That said, it's not like most people check that sort of thing when voting. I'd venture to say the majority look at how many votes they've received combined with how high their reputation is, and then vote. Sad but probably true.
 
@AmalMurali 3K is when you get the close privilege.
 
@MadaraUchiha - Thank you for the advice!
 
@MadaraUchiha: Yeah. What I was saying is: you can't rely on someone who does not have the experience of making edits etc. (as a moderator, you'll have to edit/close/... stuff, right?), so 3K reputation is a fair requirement
 
@AmalMurali Yup
 
@Code That's why you make a statement. If you have low rep, you might say "I know I don't have a high reputation, but I've been working really hard to improve things in these other ways..." You'd definitely have some explaining to do if you were running with 3K rep, though.
 
8:21 PM
@Caleb - Agree.
 
Also, don't forget that the user can always have reputation and privileges on a different site, where he's more well known.
 
What's the highest "helpful flag" count you've seen for any nominee?
 
@AmalMurali 4901
 
@MadaraUchiha I have less than 3K and I have mod tools experience. So rep really has nothing to do with it :-)
 
Is the one that pops into my head.
@qwertynl How so?
 
8:22 PM
@MadaraUchiha Who is that? (animunson, I'm guessing)
 
@MadaraUchiha I am Neal. And as Neal I have over 60K rep.
 
But I still cannot nominate myself as this user.
 
Didn't know that, nice to meet you Naftali :P
@AmalMurali Yeah, I believe
 
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8:23 PM
Wait. Weren't you known as "AlPacamaPClanaclAlalcmaa..." before? :P
 
@MadaraUchiha Shalom Aleichem
@AmalMurali I still am. That is a different profile with over 10K rep.
If someone wants to hand me 500 rep I will gladly run as qwertynl. I am not using the Neal account anymore.
 
Oh, you have different profiles. That's what confused me then :)
 
@qwertynl Yeah, Neal is pretty much "burned" for elections anyway
 
What do you mean hand you 500 rep?
 
Maybe you'll have more luck as @qwertynl
 
8:25 PM
@MadaraUchiha Yep. Hence I am now known as qwertynl
 
@AmalMurali Bounty
 
@MadaraUchiha I have had much more luck as my new persona (as my meta post says :-D)
 
@qwertynl I'll gladly give away 500 rep, if you have a worthy answer I can place a bounty upon
@qwertynl That comes to show you how critical a first impression is
Once you were identified as a "rep whore", "crappy answer giver", "whatever", there's no shaking it.
 
@MadaraUchiha I have many answers. Make your pick :-)
@MadaraUchiha Yep. That is why I created a new "me" in secret. And it worked pretty well until I accidentally outed myself
 
@qwertynl - Not to start anything, but as Neal, you were kind of a jerk and a lot of people didn't like how you interacted with other SO users.
 
8:28 PM
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That's a bounty-worth answer :)
 
@CodeMaverick Haha. I only came of ""jerky" bc of previous posts. I act the same way as my new persona and noone seems be taking offense :-)
 
If you have one of them, or willing to make in the next seven days till the elections, I'd gladly give away a hefty bounty.
 
@MadaraUchiha :-P lol that is not me
@MadaraUchiha :-D
 
@qwertynl Hey, you want fake internet points payment? Do some work :P
 
@qwertynl - Maybe you aren't as antagonistic anymore; that would be a good thing.
 
8:29 PM
@CodeMaverick maybe?
It is all perception :-)
 
So yeah, anyone other than me in this room that's running?
 
I want to, but I cannot atm.
 
@qwertynl perception is reality, as they say. Is that ultimately why you started over? Just curious.
 
@MadaraUchiha I do not think this profile has any bounty-able answers
@CodeMaverick It was a part of it. Read my meta post for more context :-) But it did seem to work.
 
@qwertynl Make one :)
@CodeMaverick Perhaps, but one man's reality is another's illusion.
 
8:32 PM
@MadaraUchiha I'd like to, but I'm 18 helpful flags short
 
@MadaraUchiha I do not have the head for it today... I was "terminated" from my job a few hours ago.
 
Start flagging then
 
@qwertynl Sorry to hear that :(
 
@qwertynl That sucks man!
 
Any plans for the future? Or just taking it easy for a few days to chill down?
 
8:33 PM
@MadaraUchiha It's all good :-) I know I will find something new and exciting :-D
@MadaraUchiha taking a couple days. I have a phone call already lined up for tomorrow morning. People contact me all the time on linked in. So we shall see.
 
@qwertynl - Go watch the new Robocop remake! LoL ...
 
@CodeMaverick Which one?
 
@qwertynl Or are you too young for that?
 
@qwertynl Cheers, good luck :)
 
@MadaraUchiha Thanks.
 
8:35 PM
@qwertynl Dear god whatever you do do NOT watch that.
 
@CodeMaverick eh?
 
@MadaraUchiha - LOL
 
I only watched that part where he stopped the rapists.
That was plenty for me XD
 
@CodeMaverick I thought you meant: ourrobocopremake.com
 
@MadaraUchiha - You probably never watched the originals or played it on Sega Genesis, did you?
@qwertynl - LoL ... no
 
8:36 PM
@CodeMaverick Done and done :)
 
@CodeMaverick this one is better: ourrobocopremake.com
 
Me being young/old doesn't change the fact that I don't like seeing penises explode on my screen
 
If anyone is short of required flags count, let me know. :P
 
@MadaraUchiha - LOOOOOOOOL
 
@MadaraUchiha ha. neither do I
 
8:37 PM
@AmalMurali - I am.
 
@CodeMaverick: Hint: use Your Common Sense :)
 
@AmalMurali - That doesn't seem fair, hahaha.
 
@CodeMaverick: beep
 
8:42 PM
@AmalMurali - blocked (at work)
 
@CodeMaverick: Okay, just google for "kicks your dog" site:stackoverflow.com :p
Pretty sure you'll find many offensive/rude/... comments on at least some of those threads ripe for flagging.
Oh hrm.. It's 2:15 AM already. And I have class tomorrow. So bye everyone!
 
9:03 PM
How can i cast a vote?
 
@AbdulJabbarWebBestow You'll be able to in 7 days
 
Hmm, what's with the meta reputation scores being off my a factor of 10? Or do they mean "meta net upvotes" and the tooltip's wrong? :/
 
9:19 PM
@Wooble Yes, net votes I believe
 
Oh, duh, it actually says "total question score".
 
9:58 PM
Ooh election room :D
 
10:10 PM
@Undo Yup
Good luck to all nominees
 
Yup!
 
So... anybody else have something like this, or am I just completely pedantic? i.imgur.com/pId4lZk.png
... DON'T JUDGE ME.
 
@meagar Ha, that's awesome!
I'm still surprised I don't have any comments about my age or my reputation.
 
10:27 PM
@MadaraUchiha I wish you luck. I'll vote for you :)
 
@HashemQolami どうもありがとうございました
 
@MadaraUchiha It is Chinese? :) At least I'm quiet sure that it's not herbew
 
Japanese.
I am Madara Uchiha after all.
 
Oh foolish me :)
 
תודה רבה
That would be Hebrew :)
 
10:32 PM
@MadaraUchiha אתה מוזמן :) That's all the Herbew I know :)
 
Looks like Google Translate stuff to me :P
אין בעד מה || על לא דבר
Would be the appropriate repsponse
 
Yes, Of course, That was my first lesson :)
 
10:58 PM
Until I saw @Wooble I thought I was the oldest account running for moderator :|
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 19 secs ago, by Undo
Prediction: I get pushed off the top 30 by people with more reputation and none of this matters anyway :P
 
11:19 PM
hello fellow SO-ians
 
@Doorknob I'd consider rephrasing that election pitch if I were you. It's nice but I think it could be better.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum In what way?
 
I don't think it reflects initiative - you talk about participating in closing campaigns and stuff like that where I think in practice you do more than that post says.
 
Thanks, but what specifically? I'd like to put more but I'm kinda 2 characters under the maximum limit...
 
I'm very tired right now - I just think it doesn't currently reflect your contribution well enough.
 
11:25 PM
alright, I'll try shrinking it down a bit so I can add more.
 
@qwertynl not running @Neal this year :P?
 
11:37 PM
> too long by 1 character
argh!
 
rofl
 
I hate this char limit :P
 
> I probably should have wrote that out... but there's character limits.
@Doorknob Join the club. :P
 

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