I have occasionally posted cv-pls in other rooms when a message was too old to fit in here; the Python room does not seem to have any age policy for Python questions, for example
and I guess as long as the volume is low, they would be fine in the Broomba room too; the three of us who are there are just enough to handle the load for the time being
Ah, I see. Other than searching the queue with as many filters as possible, then I think: "No."
Also, that search will fail, anyway, in most cases. You can't, for example, review a post in LQA that you flagged yourself; nor will it appear in such a search.
I suppose you could ask someone else (in here?) to look for it, on your behalf. Mods can do that quite quickly, I believe, if you feel like bothering one.
Or, if one of the reviewers in the LQA queue chose to leave a comment, then the "From review" link in that comment will take you to the review.
@AdrianMole Mods can see reviews in the post timeline, once the review task is created, which can take several minutes after the post qualifies for being reviewed. Review entries in the timeline are not shown to non-moderators until the review is complete, presumably in order to prevent abuse. Depending on the review type, the abuse could be either using the review to, effectively increase permissions (e.g. deletion of answers), or to try to kick the post our of review in order to make it less likely the review changes the post's state (e.g. close and reopen).
@Makyen That's (essentially) what I thought. But would asking, in here, for someone else to find that review task (that I, or whoever, had flagged) also count as "abuse"? I can't think of any obvious reasons why someone would want that info, but I also don't think that @triplee was planning abusive behaviour.
(Other than, perhaps, dropping letters from a user's name.)
@Dharman Maybe something with "chained calls" or "chained access"? Although that would make the question seem at odds with itself as the title explains what the body of the question asks for. However, it's still more searchable.
Maybe "multiple method calls" or some variation thereof? Then I'd try to narrow down towards "chained". But not immediately, maybe with a step or two in between
The trouble is that I know the end point. It's hard for me to come up with how to get there.
TBH, the only PHP coding I know is this warning: "Warning: You are wide open to SQL Injections and should use parameterized prepared statements instead of manually building your queries. They are provided by PDO or by MySQLi. "
@AdrianMole Obscurity-through-dumb-design-decisions is the best security. There are ten-ish servers at work for different things. One is production. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out which is which because the dropdown for the remote login just lists the names of machines (essentially, boils down to arbitrary numbers) rather than letting you name them. Thanks, Microsoft.
Production is now super secure. I cannot tell you which machine you need to connect to, even if you point a gun to my head.
The other machines are also very secure. And if I ever need, say, logs or something from them, the dropdown protects the machines from my investigation.
Do you often encounter questions that should obviously be closed but you can't because SOCVR doesn't accept old questions and the review queue is inefficient in closing them?
I was thinking if there's any benefit in opening a new room where low priority requests could be made for old questions. I could from time to time go through them and close.
I mean if we are speaking about a few extra questions, that users in this would like us to review (new fancy tag request), I would prefeer here instead of keeping another room open...
After all, such 'interference' with the way the system-established CV queue works is something that may be frowned-upon by certain staff members and other mods.
It is trivial to find armloads of old questions that should be closed. We focus on the new ones here because there are just too many old ones and we have to prioritize what is important.
@AdrianMole I don't have faith in the CV queue. I often watch for new questions and cast the first or second close vote on a lot. A pretty large portion of my CVs end up expiring. I do not believe the CV queue is capable of handling the volume of things to close. I'd love to see some stats on how many items are actioned vs how many just age out but I don't know where to find these of if they exist.
@blackgreen sure but it depends mostly how you operate on SO, maybe you are curating a low traffic tag or some other activity that makes you want to clean up a situation, in general I would be pro for helping you out reviewing some.
I don't look that often but I do sometimes see posts in the CV queue that have been through it more than once, with previous visits being "invalidated" for no apparent reason. Presumably, that means they timed-out.
@Dharman clear duplicates with a notice of the possible duplicate don't require SME knowledge; often, I find I was the one to nominate the duplicate a few years ago
That actually reminds me of a different question I was wondering: are there any site activities that are too cumbersome for normal users but could use some focus from site mods. (aside from flag queue which is getting more manageable now)
I think the review item expires even in longer time, but this is an empirical observation. Based on the fact that when I was working the queues I happened to see review items with zero votes
@blackgreen Review items with zero close votes mean they came from a flag. But I can cast a CV, the question goes in the CV review queue, and if nobody else casts another vote for the next 4-ish days the question leaves the review queue, however, my vote on the question stays.
I honestly don't know what happens if somebody casts a CV after that point. I don't know if it re-enters the queue or not. I'd guess "no" but I might be wrong.
like the [shipping] why the heck are we speding time on that... only reason is if in general we get more activity to clean up SO.. otherwise it seems futile.
Well, as a {cough - not very} original suggestion: Why not increase the amount of close votes (and close reviews) in the daily quota? I mean, Yaakov did that for FQs - that's still on 80/day, even though FQ is now only half the size of CV.
@AdrianMole burnout was given as one of the main reason by shog back in the day. I also think they ran a test of doing so and only a very small percentage of reviewers used all 80. let me see if I can't find the post
@NathanOliver Having done 80/day in FQ for a while, a while back, I can understand the "burn out" argument. But, needs will as needs must: What's good for the goose (FQ) is good for the gander (CV)?
by now I have gold badge in my tag, so I close as I like, but I still remeber when I did not have it, I could not pass certain questions even if clear duplicate. (no activity) and it was a bit frustrating (since my objective was to clean my low traffic tag)
@Adriaan Open dupe requests can also be found on SEDE. I've a query for dupe auto-dupe comments by user ID and have a few users who are very reliable with their close votes but don't have a gold tag badge yet. Every few months I check their oldest ones where the votes have expired.
A similar query can be done for a tag rather than user.
@VLAZ go through them more often ;) But yes, that's true. Queen, over in SO Botics, might be of help there, given you can get a ping when a comment with a possible dupe appears. Especially since inbox notifications no longer disappear
Doing 40/day in CV and (typically, of late) ~20/day in FQ, I generally use all 50 daily votes (sometimes with a few 'organic' ones). Even if I was interested in the Triage queue, I simply don't have the resources to do that one, as well.
@AdrianMole SOCVR folks are certainly an outlier in terms of vote utilization. Of course, we are also probably making up the lion's share of user moderation activity, at least in some areas.
It is the purpose of the CV queue to deal with questions that have attracted close votes/flags. If it's failing in that purpose, then something needs to be done about it. The only thing I can see to do (in the current scenario) is to increase the review/vote quota for some/all curators. But how that would/could be done is, perhaps, the issue at hand.
@TylerH I only ever use my hands to post messages in here; never used either of my feet. (Yet!)
@AdrianMole however the issue that Petter pointed out earlier (if I understood it correctly) about low traffic tags is not only about close votes expiring, but expiring probably due to lack of SMEs who also do curation; assuming that many close votes need experts to determine that something is indeed unclear, unfocused, lacking MCVE etc
in this scenario a reviewer with 80 close votes would still skip a review in a low traffic tag where they don't feel confident enough to make the call
@blackgreen That may only be a minor issue; from my experience, many questions in the CV queue don't need much SME. Although, having said that, the CV queue is probably the one I use "Skip" in most often.
Things like "code as image" and gibberish don't need any SME. Some dupe votes need only a little (I can often go through, say, a C# or python proposed dupe and judge it quite accurately).
What I wouldn't want to see is reviewers somehow 'relaxing' their criteria in order to get more questions closed, and/or earning more "review stats". That may be a concern, also, for the staff.
The weird thing is that I did turn them off and I still reproduced it. Decided to head over to another question to get a proper video of this happening in action and...then I couldn't reproduce it. Even after re-enabling the userscripts. I'd blame cache.
@PetterFriberg BTW, You are in so many rooms that, when clicking on your name, the "profile" pop-up displayed for you is so big the close button is not visible.
@StephenOstermiller I saw that this question has been reposted on Webmasters.SE, but the one here on SO has gotten an answer. Do you want maybe to delete the repost there, and then I migrate this one?
@sta don't think the question qualifies for a typo, OP asked for a way to make an authenticated request, and got a solution for it. it might be a duplicate, though
Both answers on the last smokey report were deleted within 5 seconds after they started getting flagged and down voted. Flag for possible sock accounts?