Do we want to urge editors not to bother if all they are doing is framing the title as a question? stackoverflow.com/posts/16287782/revisions Okay, they make some other textual changes, but is this something that users should be made aware of? I am under the impression that question titles don't ever actually need to be framed as a question.
@mickmackusa I think, in general, rephrasing a title to a question rather than a statement can be useful. It's not required for a post to be comprehensible but it can help a bit, and may be useful for search engines as well. I remember a meta post about this but it was a while ago...
Any C++ Template Metaprogramming gurus around who can find a good dupe for this? (Template stuff is definitely one of my weak spots, so I don't want to pick one of the many "template + forward reference + rvalue" posts at random.)
What about this post? The self-answer says "I resolve this problem by changing update method to save", so is saying that update doesn't work but save does useful, additional information or just repeating the earlier insight, adding a question?
This currently has an R/A flag from me. Is that appropriate, or is it some kind of spam? Or doesn't it really matter?
... seems like trolling, to me.
And what to do about this one? On first glance, it looks like a long-winded treatise on "PHP Session Basics" (as in the question title). But are the links spam?
Am I allowed to ask this room to euthanize my accepted answer? I only got my search terms right after answering this basic dupe. I don't want to be a hypocrite and scold others, yet answer basic dupes myself.
If assisted killing is not kosher, I'd like the RO's to consider it in the future.
@Nick in my experience, good looking text (especially English-wise) with an otherwise unrelated spam link inserted is almost always plagiarised from somewhere. I'd have left a comment on the answer itself, were it not deleted that fast
@bad_coder it looks like a "how to" question, which doesn't necessarily requires own effort from the OP's side. The accepted answer also looks succinct enough to make me think it's not Too Broad
@mickmackusa no users may not make those requests; that violates the main principle of the "involved" rule (socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-requests-youre-involved). If your answer is accepted, it means someone else found it helpful/useful, so depriving the user or future readers of that would be prima facie harmful to the site.
Hopefully no one will chastise you for one over-eager answering of a dupe, since it is not exactly a habit :-) In the meantime if you are overly concerned about appearances, you can always leave a comment under the question or your answer mentioning you didn't realize it was a dupe until after your answer was accepted.
@mickmackusa I'm a bit confused by that question. Why are the keys and values the same...? If they actually want the keys, then I think it's a different question, but then it wouldn't be the one you answered... Would your answer be better on the dupe target?
@ThierryLathuille @miken32 an answer you deleted is being discussed on meta
i do this probably once a week, but i'll look at my chat rooms and think "Huh... room <x> is missing from the list, why am i not in that room" only to realize it's missing because i'm currently viewing it
i don't think that answer necessarily qualifies for deletion (unrelated to whether the del-pls was correct.) answers aren't required to be correct, nor are they required to have an explanation of the code they provide (or code to go along with an explanation, in the opposite case)
(the author has deleted it already, so it's mostly moot outside of general discussion of deletion)
"Unrelated to the question" would be a legitimate reason, although with how the author wrote the question, it's hard to argue it's completely unrelated to a question asking "How to use a for loop to print the numbers from 10 to 1 in descending order in R?", given that it appears to do exactly that (maybe with off-by-one, I don't know R).
The question code does strongly suggest that the actual question was related to sorting, but...that's not what they wrote.
what i'm hanging on is, it was an attempt to answer the question, as they interpreted it, but that last bit... probably isn't relevant to whether or not it should be deleted
it's different from, say "Hey, here's how you'd fix that with jquery"
@TylerH counterargument: 1. The Disciplined badge is precisely awarded to users who elect to delete an answer that "helpful" to at least 3 people. 2. SO has decided to decrease the value/power of the askers' accepted answer during sorting because basically they might not know what is best for the page/researchers; allowing me to delete my own answer seems a fair extension of the same rationale.
I kind of like that my request for content euthanasia holds the same correlations to the topic of human euthanasia. Who should ultimate control what happens with oneself and one's decisions?
Bear in mind, I am not removing wisdom from the site in this case. I posted an identical answer on an earlier duplicate and I am seeking the removal of redundant content.
I have closed dupes where I have answered before. Just in this case, the window of time between posting my answer and hammering is less than a day. I feel this time difference is too small and may seem to be an abuse of the hammer to some people.
isn't it more a question of... what is allowed in the room, rather than what is ethically ok? i mean, i doubt anyone here is against deleting your own answer when it's clearly not useful and only standing in the way of a sign post being a sign post, but that doesn't change the guidelines on what is a valid del-pls request, etc.
Would a custom mod flag make sense in a situation like this? It's somewhat akin to a merge request... but there's no new answer(s) to merge, so the existing answer(s) simply need to be deleted.
it's a scenario that we don't have the tooling for, only mods do
(outside of targeted downvoting)
ah, there's another answer involved... that complicates it a bit too
@KevinB Well, the rule of not making requests on pages where you've interacted is in place to prevent people abusively manipulating the page for self-gain. My request (while obviously that I have interacted on the page) is not abuse; it is not for self-gain -- it is for system gain. The question (most of its text I didn't see/reveal until after performing an edit) has a very noise body and makes an unattractive sign post. The other answer if flatly incorrect.
I guess I'd also be happy to see the whole page go away.
@Vickel Brand new (minutes) old posts may be closed quickly enough by the community and not need to be posted here, so I will probably be focusing on days old questions that have not been closed yet
@mickmackusa In part. The line for what requests are acceptable isn't there just to prevent actual manipulation for self-gain. It's there for multiple reasons. One of those reasons is to prevent people who are not substantially familiar with SOCVR from getting the perception that the people in the room are acting inappropriately as a group. One of the things that's considered inappropriate is for the room to permit individuals to have other members here act as a voting ring to perform actions on things the individual is involved with where the individual can't accomplish those actions on their own.
It doesn't matter that you think it's not for self-gain (it is, in fact, for self-gain, because you'd be gaining what you desire, even if that results in a reputation loss). What matters is the possible perception of others.
The line has been drawn where it is to keep the room well away from things which might be perceived as the room helping you to accomplish whatever it is you want to accomplish on your own stuff, particularly when the system specifically and explicitly prevents you as an individual from accomplishing whatever it is that you're wanting to do (in this case delete your own accepted answer).
@mickmackusa actually judging from the comment that is not OPs problem at all: PHP Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): Entity: line 1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found in
@Nick Ah, I don't think I saw that comment. (maybe I didn't unfold it) Then the question is Unclear because all pertinent details are not in the question. In which case, the answer is unhelpful. The asker should ask a new question.