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Q: Let's start [shipping] this tag away!

cocomacSo... I think we should burninate the shipping tag Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? It is something that is in some-way related to shipping. Quite ambiguous IMO. From the tag wiki "Shipping is transportation of goods by sea or some ot...

 
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@SunderamDubey site reliability isn't what it used to be. And the hackers / botnets that like to bring it on isn't helping either. I think we miss some of the old crew of the SRE team.
 
7:12 AM
is this question historically significant as the lowest-voted question on the network with a meta discussion attached to it, or simply a too-broad duplicate which is worthy of a delv-pls?
 
@tripleee IMO the answer to that question is valuable
 
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@Cristik thanks for investigating, no further action then
 
^ ^ ^ The second to last above link should be "Not About Programming"
 
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> Python is four times slower than languages like C++ or Java.
TIL :-)
 
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@SunderamDubey please remember that you are not allowed to post cv-pls for questions where you have posted an answer (for example); see the room FAQ for details
 
11:27 AM
@SunderamDubey please see our rule 15 socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-requests-youre-involved to understand why I moved your cv-pls to /dev/null
 
@rene and @tripleee I don't know that but thanks.
 
11:40 AM
@tripleee The answer is not unique. The dupes already include equivalent answers.
 
so then del-pls after all? or suggest a merge?
 
12:23 PM
Is SO really slow again for anybody else? Or is it just for me?
 
yes
 
Let me rephrase: (Is SO really slow again for anybody else XOR is it just for me?) AND (Which one is it?)
 
And people say that is difficult trying to communicate with me
cdn.sstatic is stalling more than usual
 
SO is slow for me too. It's not just you, so the answer is NO
 
1:48 PM
is this question worth undeleting? Related (poor) meta post: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/381398/…
 
@tripleee I would say no, but that is based on gut feeling, not on any reasoning, logic or not.
 
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@tripleee I have voted to undelete it. Not because I think it is a good question but because it possibly could be edited into a reasonable one. The deletion was, IMHO, very heavy-handed and entirely unnecessary. If it had remained closed, then Roomba would have eaten it. The manual deletion prevents most SO users from considering it for reopening. This is not what the delete-vote privilege should be used for.
 
@AdrianMole So, basically, it will be eaten by roomba once more? Why invest any effort at all if you aren't going to fix the question either?
 
Did I say I wasn't going to (try to) fix it?
But it's the abuse of the delete votes that bothers me most.
I think these are often cast to prevent reopening.
 
If it was "abuse" it would have been prohibited by the system already. If the system allows it, there's no abuse.
If you believe it's abusive, make your feature request.
 
The concept of a delete vote is not abuse. Misuse of the privilege is abuse, IMHO. It's not the system at fault, but users.
 
well i have my answer about where the heck some comments on an Ask Ubuntu reported post thread on Metasmoke came from...
picks up a hammer and beats SmokeDetector with it
 
2:20 PM
@AdrianMole If the system allows it to be used, then it's not abuse.
Like the system doesn't allow you to vote for your own posts or vote targeting an user.
 
There is no way the system can prevent all forms of abuse. Like abuse of the dupe-hammer, or flagging something as spam that isn't spam.
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If I randomly pick out one of your answers and flag it as spam, then you're saying that's not abuse, "because the system allows me to do it."
 
correct me if i'm wrong as i'm late to this conversation, but in such cases isn't this where moderators can come in and affect their diamond powers to make sure that abuses of the system are not permitted? I.E. user deletion, suspension, invalidation of flags, etc.
 
Moderators can do many things when they come across any form of abuse.
In this case, I don't feel that the 'abuse' (maybe that word is a bit strong and 'misuse' is possible better) is sufficient for me to raise a flag on the post for moderator attention.
... it would possibly also have been better if the Meta post had been on Meta.SO rather than Meta.SE. I could then have voted to reopen it (the Meta post).
 
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The answer seems VLQ or NAA, is it?
 
@SunderamDubey Possibly. But I wouldn't raise a VLQ or NAA flag on it.
 
As it only contains the link rather than original answer.
@AdrianMole But I raised.
 
Well, then wait and see what happens to it. :)
 
@AdrianMole :)
 
@tripleee I'm not sure why we're suddenly discussing deleting/undeleting posts linked from meta? You just posted 2 of them.
 
 
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@cigien it's relevant that there is a meta IMHO, but I was asking about the posts themselves. The second one came up because of the meta discussion, that's true
are we supposed to avoid discussing posts which are also discussed on meta?
 
Yeah, as mentioned in the FAQ, we shouldn't be trying to curate posts in this room, if they're being discussed on Meta. Explicit *-pls are definitely not allowed, but I think it extends to handling the post in any way.
 
 
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