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1:59 AM
heyy
 
hello!
@AdrianMole I would assess that it's probably spam that either they forgot about, messed up, or hadn't yet added a link to, but I admit that I cannot prove it, either. I couldn't find any similar instances, for example.
@StephenOstermiller I have a hunch that announcement might have been at my prodding (before I was a mod) after several instances of stuff not being nuked properly
@cocomac Relevant meta post regarding that exact comment, in case you hadn't seen it.
@AdrianMole probably, if one did it enough times after being asked not to ;-)
 
2:39 AM
What's the proper close reason for a question the OP could have Googled in five seconds?
 
2:53 AM
@Dharman Design changes! I thought you'd noticed ;-) But seriously, you might consider a response to meta.stackexchange.com/q/379561/165261 with information about the performance issues. It could well be related.
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine Honestly I don't even know how I'd Google that, because why would anyone have written anything about that? It's just...basic logic.
That's the sort of question that properly falls under the now-gone "lacks minimal understanding" close reason...I don't know what to do with it now, though.
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine I found a pretty close dupe. Thoughts?
 
@RyanM Thanks for the link!
 
 
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7:27 AM
@pppery deleted by OP, still seems to lack basic debugging details ... but thanks for asking
 
7:50 AM
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Q: Dis[connect] this tag

Moshe KatzIn 2017 we had a discussion about disambiguating connect because it was being used to mean multiple things. At the time, it was suggested to have a separate request to burninate this tag after the retagging was done. I'm sure the 2017 retagging is done, but there's been a lot of new activity with...

 
clever comment validation: imgur.com/a/qSnk2AJ ...thanks for getting in my way.
 
jps
is stackoverflow.com/q/72782630 a serious question or just trolling?
 
@jps If it is a serious question, they forgot to include it while they were copying garbage out of the post-a-question UI.
 
8:11 AM
@TheMaster Would like to retract this request as OP edited his post.
 
@TheMaster → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
@TheMaster In such cases ping the last active room owner
 
8:41 AM
@JeanneDark Sure..
 
9:08 AM
 
9:45 AM
Can this be considered an answer to the question?
 
@gnat If there's no objection I will reopen it instead of deleting
 
> Then was hit with te genious
Clearly describes a physical attack.
More seriously, technically an answer, I'd say.
 
Yes but oh boy does it need editing.
 
Three easy steps: remove everything but the allcaps 2. remove the multiple exclamations 3. convert allcaps to regular sentence case. It becomes a rather short answer but still better than before.
 
Thanks. I wondered if it wasn't maybe even R/A
 
9:52 AM
I have resisted the temptation to set the edit summary to "my eeeeyyyyeeesssss"
 
@RyanM Not enough caps and exclamations.
 
@VLAZ thatsthejoke.png
 
10:28 AM
^ Aaa
 
why vandalize a year old question which has an answer?
 
@SurajRao I think revision 2 is the correct correct. There is small discussion in the comments where somebody asks for a MCVE and OP apparently edited revion 1 into 2 in response.
 
@VLAZ ah yes..that was in 2021.. fixed it
 
10:46 AM
@Dharman the way you reworded the question it looks like a duplicate of this. I am not completely sure about that though. Anyway it doesn't look delete worthy to me anymore
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, no longer applicable after edit
 
 
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11:52 AM
Morning
 
stackoverflow.com/q/72785911/4826457 is this closable as needs details/clarity? (Self Q & A)
 
12:42 PM
Dear community members and mods., I have seen a weird situation today on SO, one guy posted one question many days ago, today the same question is posted by another guy with the same error and the code is also same, can we mark it as duplicate?
 
No oneboxing
 
@JeanneDark Are you saying it to me?
 
Who else is doing it?
 
Well, I am just asking, as I don't have 3k+ reputation
 
jps
@SunderamDubey a weird situation today - SO is as weird today as it is every day. Some users maintain two or more accounts and (ab)use them to repost questions when they don't get their answers fast enough.
 
@SunderamDubey If you post a bare link to a question, the chat system will "onebox" it into a fairly large box with all sorts of detail. We're minimalist in here (due to the volume) so we ask you to turn it into a markdown link or add some non-link text before to prevent it
To simplify things, I went ahead and converted it for you and binned the extra lines
 
@Machavity thanks sir, I will remember from next time.
 
@SunderamDubey to answer your question, yes, it should be marked as duplicate. As it was already. You can flag it as such. When you reach 3k you can cast a close vote.
The only obstacle is when such alternate accounts repost a question that has no accepted or upvoted answer. Regular users can't mark the duplicate. They could only if the OP were the same. In that case, you can raise a moderator flag. Explaining that it's an exact duplicate from different accounts, with a link to the oldest question. The mods will handle it
as jps said, it happens all the time, unfortunately.
however most of the time they're not doing it on purpose. many users simply don't know what they're supposed to do when their question is closed or not answered
 
1:34 PM
should the question from that SD report be flagged as res req / general computing? stackoverflow.com/questions/56941874/…
 
1:54 PM
@tripleee Gone. No real use for that
 
anyone knows if it's possible to early join the chat that would automatically be created after a number of replies between the same two persons, on the same post?
 
@Machavity thanks
 
i.e. accessing the "let's continue the discussion in chat" link before the link appears
 
dunno if the link is predictable, but if the user has enough rep to chat, you can create a room and invite them
not entirely the same thing, as the generated room will have a copy of the comments so far etc
 
@Cristik Not unless you know what the next room ID will be. That action creates the chat room, which in turn gives it a room ID (i.e. this room is 41570). Figuring that number out would not be easy
 
2:02 PM
guess I'll have to post a few more comments then :)
oddly enough the link should've appeared by now on the post I need it, could it be because the OP and I are the ones engaged in the discussion?
or does the chat link become available only when two discuss on a third user's post?
 
What's the post you're referring to?
There's an autoflag for mods at 25 coments
 
What becomes of users with < 20 rep, if their comments are moved to chat?
 
Yeah, that is a bit of a problem. They can see comments but I don't think they can chat (based on this answer)
 
Could that be what's happening in the post Cristik is referring to?
 
2:24 PM
It could be. I looked at his latest comments, tho, and the bulk of them are on a question that doesn't have but maybe a dozen comments. Not enough to trigger (I want to say users get that around 20)
 
2:45 PM
ok, so this is the post I was referring to - stackoverflow.com/a/72680819/1974224. At this moment there are 9 comments and still the UI didn't offer the chat link. On other posts I've seen that link (albeit created by the other party), at 7 comments.
 
3:07 PM
Do all new users have to go through a wizzard now to ask questions?
 
I can't remember if that is still in AB test or not
@Cristik There's not enough comments, nor are they close together
I can shove it all to chat if you want. The conversation seems to be on a tangent
 
Looks like the testing is done and they plane to roll it out at the end of june. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/418491/…
 
@Machavity yeah, that would be helpful, thanks
 
4:34 PM
@Cristik Done
 
4:46 PM
"Google it" only answer: stackoverflow.com/a/5048546/4294399
 
i mean
it seems to have been useful
 
5:06 PM
 
@RyanM not much to do about it for now. SE said they'd fix it this week; launching plan B next week if I don't hear anything
 
5:35 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Couldn't it just be a how-to question, entirely ignoring their attempt? Maybe it could be edited out.
 
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6:40 PM
JSFiddle-link only answers are still NAA, right? Just making sure before I flag.
 
@GeneralGrievance If the answer is not useful if the link breaks, then it's link-only and NAA/VLQ.
 
Ok, so that's a yes for jsfiddle. Is an exception made for i.stack.imgur screenshots?
 
Hmm. If an answer is only a screenshot (or any sort of image), then it's not going to be very goo. But that may not mean that it's NAA-worthy.
{Not going to correct goo...}
 
@AdrianMole Oh, I think it's going to be very goo. Icky and gross.
 
7:08 PM
This question is asking for inputs that will make the code fail. OP knows it fails because the code doesn't pass some online tests (but OP can't see the inputs that it fails on). That doesn't seem like a question that would be useful to anyone else. Should it be closed, and if yes, is there a standard reason that would be applicable?
 
tricky
 
if it isn't useful to anyone, there's an action that is universally acceptable for that scenario
 
the old close reason "too localized" would seem a nice fit in this case. So... "Needs more focus"?
 
presumably it has a very finite number of possible answers
or may have
 
or, it could be closed with a custom close reason as being about working code, so Code Review or Code Golf
 
7:15 PM
I think the question is focused enough, so that reason doesn't seem right. It's also non-working code, so Code Review/Code Golf wouldn't be a good fit. (Not that I would recommend another site in a close reason, but that's besides the point). I thought I'd seen an MSO post about this, but can't seem to find it now.
 
the title sucks, but that's not a close reason
under the SG, this would fall under "in need of major improvement" at minimum
 
Maybe it could be edited into an algorithm question. That way the code can just be edited out, and it becomes a "how to solve this algorithm problem" question. There's a nice answer that answers that aspect, afaict.
 
what if that's not what the op wants to know?
 
7:39 PM
If the question is off-topic, it doesn't really matter what the OP wants. e.g. Changing a recommendation request into a how-to question, even if the OP just really wants a recommendation. Of course, if the question is on-topic as is, then the OP's intent has to be preserved.
 
@Machavity not sure I understand you here. The question is not "seeking recommendations for books etc". The question asks where the source code of the Wikipedia templates is stored, where it can be accessed if you want to have a look at it. Have a look at the answers, which are not "recommendations".
 
@cheesus I would ask that on Meta. Where to access Wikipedia templates does not seem like a programming question to me. If the community disagrees, we can reverse it.
 
@Machavity can we move the question to meta?
I don't care about the few upvotes, but I think I'm not the only one to ever have that question
(and, I might google the same question in the future and be glad to discover that there is an easy answer)
 
sounds like you're trying to reverseengineer or gain access to, what is effectively the source code of another website
 
uh, this is Wikipedia.. pretty much everything is open source, and every page has its "source code"
 
7:52 PM
It's definitely not on-topic for Meta, so migrating it there makes no sense
 
The process for determining if it's even possible should start with understanding how the process works
given a template, what occurs to turn that template into a web page?
 
Also not possible even if you did want to migrate it.
 
if that happens on the server, you can't access it unless the server serves it.
 
would it be on-topic on opendata.stackexchange.com ?
 
i don't think it'd be on topic as-is anywhere, but you could reframe it into an exploration of how Wiktionary templates are rendered.
 
jps
7:54 PM
is it possible to ping a person who only edited a question (no other participation)?
 
@jps Yep, totally.
 
@KevinB of course the server serves it en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Template:es-conj/…
 
@jps You can just @ mention them in a comment, and their username will autocomplete and you can ping them. I've done it a few times
 
is this salvageable? The question appears to be about a heap, not Heap's algorithm, and even with the answer (which seems buggy still) I don't understand what the actual question is stackoverflow.com/questions/72790190/…
 
jps
7:56 PM
thanks. I typed the name but there was no automatic suggestion/autocomplete as we usually get
 
@cocomac I don't think the auto-complete works unless they've made a comment themselves.
 
@jps Yeah, autofill doesn't always indicate when a user is pingable
 
@cheesus then the answer seems obvious
 
jps
ok, thanks, let's see what happens.
 
But, if the editor was Jon Skeet, you can't ping him. Unless you have 999.9k+ rep. :)
 
7:58 PM
@KevinB yes it is kinda obvious. About as obvious as my most-upvoted answer here.
My question is not, "how to turn the servers into source-code-serving machines", as you seem to insinuate. My question was "the template's code is public, how to access it".
 
is that an assumption that it must be public, because Wikipedia is public?
 
jps
@AdrianMole (timeout occurred in trying to figure out a witty answer)
 
no, because people are talking about source code edits on the talking page
@KevinB Do you know the core idea behind Wikipedia? If not: It can be edited by everyone. Now that you do know it, just note that not all text in Wikipedia is written literally, they are using a lot of templates, and those can be edited too. Bye
 
:D
 
8:34 PM
I'm guessing that's "no"
 
Hmm... stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/alluxio seems full of self-answered questions of dubious quality
 
none of those have answers
also, there's 11 results... even though it says 12 at the top
everything is a lie
 
I see 94 questions, most of which have answers. Do you have an auto-filter in place?
@jmoerdyk Can we flag an entire tag as spam? xD
 
@AdrianMole seems another case of pushing support forums onto SO.
 
Looks like "unanswered" stuck from a previous link i clicked...
kinda funny how the count switches back and forth between 95 and 94
 
8:45 PM
I want to downvote basically every Q&A on that list, but I know they will just get reversed.
Might be worth it just for catharsis.
 
just set it up as a bookmark and cast a few votes a day
 
9:39 PM
@jmoerdyk I'd bet good money that "user" asking questions is associated with the software and this is just astroturfing; you flagged for mods already?
 
@miken32 no doubt... several of the users in that tag have suspicious question activity, there may even been a bit of voting fraud in there
 
10:15 PM
 
10:33 PM
It's a real shame that bounties prevent CV-PLS =} waaaay too broad
 
that bounty message is too long for chat
wow, 300 rep bounty, user must be desperate
 
@tink for ones where you catch it earlier and it's clear enough that a mod is willing to unilaterally close, a custom close flag can result in it being closed. However, we're usually disinclined to refund a bounty if it's been up for a few days, so in this case we'd probably just let it run. Also the custom flag queue is long at the moment, so it might not get spotted quickly ^^;
Well..."queue" isn't quite right, since we can pick and choose from the pile. but it's five pages at the moment, so we might not catch everything easy while picking and choosing.
 
You could also post on Meta? The pitchforks are good at finding diamonds.
 
Thanks @RyanM - I'll bear that in mind. Shame I didn't see it when it first popped up.
 
Probably not worth a Meta post though. The 10 downvotes they will probably end up getting is likely enough.
 
10:42 PM
Heh
 

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