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7:05 PM
@richardec I'm supposed to do things for reasons?! But really, just preference. I tend to disfavor immediate deletion since it could be confusing for the author, and giving a bit of extra time allows them to be educated about why the post is off-topic and they shouldn't post it a third time.
Others favor getting the worst crap off the site ASAP, which is also legit. This didn't seem so bad as to require it, so I was content to let Roomba get it.
 
i prefer to have roomba delete shtuff for me
 
user17242583
@RyanM I enjoy deleting any post a great deal, and that's no exception. Beside, I've invested a downvote in it, and I would like it returned :) Yours is not bad reasoning however. I fully approbate it and will consider it myself.
 
i've only casted 555 delete votes
 
user17242583
lol, that's a lot more than I have though: 173
 
7:12 PM
compared to... 37k downvotes
 
user17242583
I need to work up some more rep...8 votes a day is extremely frustrating...
 
Apparently I've cast 1935 delete votes.
 
I've deleted... 821.
...this week.
 
*past 7 days
 
yes ^
 
7:15 PM
I don't know how you are deleting more than I
 
lotta NAAs
 
Before I became a mod I had about 7500 deletes. Now I have about 25k
 
user17242583
@Dharman drop by SOBotics to get free delete vote increments... ;)
 
I have 13k
 
I hear that if a mod deletes another mod, they inherit the delete votes and gain unimaginable power.
 
7:27 PM
@StephenOstermiller Wait, you haven't offed the other Webmaster.SE mods yet? There can be only one!
 
@Machavity turning Webmasters.SE into Webmaster.SE by offing all the other webmasters?
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8:10 PM
Is there a way to trigger POST request from outside Stack Overflow?
 
Write your own AJAX request maybe?
 
Yeah, lots of sites have 'em!
But actually: do you mean a POST to stackoverflow.com? and do you need to be able to read the result?
 
Yes, I did, but CORS error
 
Are you doing this inside a browser? Can make your JS engine ignore CORS probably stackoverflow.com/questions/3076414/…
 
if you just need to fire and forget you could probably just submit a form.
Otherwise, yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
Cody ran into this trying to send requests from chat, you could ask how they managed to solve it.
 
8:15 PM
do it from a server
 
@TylerH You can even get a badge for it: Disciplined (Shog9's explanation of its purpose)
 
8:35 PM
 
huh... i got that badge from a post that was deleted by the community bot
> This answer was deleted 8 years ago along with its parent question.
> This post is hidden. It was deleted 8 years ago by CommunityBot.
(when the author was deleted)
 
8:50 PM
@JeanneDark Forgot about that
 
9:10 PM
@TylerH That's because you lack discipline?
 
user17242583
Is it possible to, like, listen to chat messages and events via websockets?
 
@richardec Probably. But why would you want to? It's all trash.
 
user17242583
@AdrianMole I'd like to scan for messages matching certain patterns.
 
Aha. There are some users (mods, mostly) that have bots that check for such "keyword" events in chat rooms.
Samuel Liew is one ... this message may even trigger his bot. :)
 
@VLAZ someone sent you an NAA :-)
 
9:30 PM
@AdrianMole I was disciplined once, but it was too much trouble
 
@TylerH I was clever once ... same issue(s). :-)
 
I'm disciplined. Even posted a del-pls here where I had an accepted answer
 
9:47 PM
@blackgreen So, how is breaking Room Rules a form of 'discipline'?
 
I didn't break any rule
 
If you had an answer, then you were involved.
... that requires a mod flag, asking for deletion.
 
1. the SOCVR involvement rule is meant to prevent posters of a *-pls to derive any form of benefit from the fulfilment of the request. my deleted answer didn't qualify for rep retention as it was scored 2
2. I got green light from an RO
 
Rule #15. It has been updated recently (IIRC). It is theoretically possible for a deleted answer to be beneficial (in terms of reputation points).
There was a discussion here about whether or not converting said answer into a CW before the request would make it acceptable. The RO Magisterium decided that it was not.
 
Has there been no room meeting since 2020? Or are we just not keeping up the minutes?
 
9:56 PM
Next room meeting is in 6 - 8 ...
 
... decades?
 
I specifically did not made it CW in order to not unnecessarily bump the soon-to-be-deleted post. Anyway, just to back up my claims
 
This has now made me wonder, if an answer has a score of 3 or more but has down votes and has been visible for more than 60 days, do you get the negative reputation back and keep the positive reputation?
 
@blackgreen I'm not actually accusing you of anything. Just pointing out that, in retrospect, your request was against the "letter of the law" (as it is now).
 
10:03 PM
Is there a change log of the FAQ somewhere? That sounds like something we'd do.
 
Rumour has it that only rene has access to the change log.
 
@jps I've just hammered this question (which got a couple NAAs), pinging you in case you want to vet the first two dupe links and/or suggest better ones
you answered one of those
 
@AdrianMole Nope, looks like we all do. Here it is: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/socvr-website-content/…
 
Rumours are just that ... rumours. :)
 
10:09 PM
@AdrianMole you literally did, by rhetorically asking "how is breaking Room Rules a form of discipline"
 
Meh. It was just "chit chat". This is a chat room; chit happens.
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10:55 PM
@cigien It's also against guidelines for an individual to specifically go looking for posts in order to cause them to Roomba. OTOH, if a post which you happen to come across has a variety of actions you could take to resolve the situation and you feel all those actions are valid (e.g. downvote, close-vote, delete-vote), then it's acceptable to perform a single action which you know will resolve the post without the need to take other actions.
There's a fine line for action on a single post, but the main thing is don't go looking for posts on which to downvote in order to cause the question to be Roomba'd. In particular, don't go through downvoting answers where the content of the answer doesn't deserve a downvote on its own.
@Dharman In a userscript, there's the pair of APIs GM_xmlhttpRequest and GM.xmlHttpRequest which use the extension context in order to not be affected by CORS and to be able to use the headers from another site. The Request Generator does this to be able to submit chat messages from main sites. You will probably want to use the "gm4-polyfill.js" which the Requests Generator also @requires in order to be able to use just GM.xmlHttpRequest and have it work in multiple userscript managers.
 
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