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3:25 AM
Can or should this common duplicate be deleted or closed? There better duplicates that are not typo caused. This issue is because of using '#body' instead of 'body'
 
 
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4:40 AM
@tacoshy yeah, it's a simple typo, not worth keeping the question especially as there are better posts on SO dealing with the same thing, and not caused by a typo
IMO, should be closed, followed by deletion
o maybe merged with a duplicate target, but I somehow doubt one of the answers posted to the question in discussion are adding something new to the others
@tink seems the question got some interesting answers, if we were to delete, shouldn't be better delete the other, unanswered question?
talking strictly from the point of view of keeping valuable content (answers in this case). disclaimer - I didn't thoroughly analyze the answers, so the fact that they got upvotes might not be relevant for their quality
 
4:57 AM
@tink the OP has updated substantially and I agree with Cristik's assessment that perhaps at least we should hold back on deleting this
 
@Cristik, @tripleee ... I personally think they both should go. Just because they drew interest doesn't mean they're on-topic. And the banging on about globbing is the result of having done the grep wrong in the first place.
 
I also disagree with the "general computing" assessment; being able to solve this interactively is also nice, but the real rub is when you need a solution for a script which needs to be portable between platforms
 
Well ... this problem is as old as the new SO, I think. Where do you draw the line? He didn't mention scripting anywhere - just because someone who's looking for a similar issue in a scripting context may come along to me doesn't mean that we have to have a plethora of OT posts covering individual linux/unix tools ... your mileage obviously varies.
 
"halp this Python code won't read my Unicode file" with no example of the file and clearly no understanding of the code is a much more pressing problem IMNSHO
 
the question is indeed a little bit of a mess, but I think it's salvageable, before we delete it let's be sure it doesn't bring any value on SO
 
5:05 AM
Happy to help you closing that, too ;)
Heh.
It brings value to people looking for answers in the wrong place :) And in doing so attracts others to post similar question based on precedents. I find it hard enough to accept that OT questions from 12 years ago w/ millions of hits and thousands of upvotes keep hanging around floaters, attracting more of the same. Producing more new ones of that sort is IMHO counterproductive.
Alternatively we could ask for the rules to be loosened, and the number of stack exchange sites w/ overlapping topics to be reduced ;D ... like that's going to happen.
 
5:23 AM
@tink you seem to think that writing shell scripts is not programming but we have been over this topic many times before; it certainly is
 
No, I don't think that at all @tripleee, I think that using a single grep in an interactive shell doesn't qualify.
 
but then I fail to see how this would be any different from "what are the arguments to os.walk() in Python" etc
 
@DaImTo I went with close as dupe of their original question
 
actually i would rather dupe the original as stackoverflow.com/q/65111801/1841839 but I went with the ordinal needs clarity. This is another case of a question closed as needs clarity when it didnt it just needed to be dupled. I should have checked before trusting the oringal close vote.
 
6:15 AM
@DaImTo Note that the original close vote (which I cast) was correct. Here is the state of the question when I cast it (to save a click: it's in Japanese). Of course, that's no longer the case, so I've reopened it. Ideally someone would've cast a reopen vote or the author would've indicated that the edit fixed the close reason, but that didn't happen.
 
@DalijaPrasnikar There can only be two answers to that question, "Yes", and "No" :)
 
@RyanM thanks
 
@Cristik and those make two very different opinions;)
 
yeah, but maybe they are good opinions :)
 
Hopefully they'd come with some justification
And not, say, 28 dots at the end.
 
6:31 AM
If there are facts and citations, or other things that makes the answer not entirely subjective, it's not POB. If there aren't such things, then even limited, they are but opinions that one cannot pick one on any merit.
 
Yeah, to be clear, I was not attempting to express an opinion there.
I think the question was POB, largely because I think it falls into the latter category that @VLAZ described, making any answers entirely subjective.
 
6:55 AM
Should I learn to walk before I learn to bike? :)
 
@Cristik No, walking is slow. Biking will get you places faster. Just learn to crawl and move straight to biking.
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@Cristik No, you should learn both at the same time, as they rely on the same skills, so it's going to be easier and more efficient to learn them side by side.
That's a "no" but with different motivation entirely. So even though there are two outcomes - a "Yes" and a "No", you can have more than two answers.
 
No need to learn either, you sit in front of a computer all day anyway
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7:50 AM
@JeanneDark This has got to be the single best burn I've ever seen
 
8:04 AM
 
8:18 AM
above question had 2 close votes at the time it was deleted
seems there are still people that VTC instead of flagging as spam...
 
@Cristik Maybe they did both. Hard to say with these. With more "subtle" spam you can more clearly see it, e.g., Q is at -1 (which might indicate 1 flag) but has 2 close votes.
support spam gets flags too fast to be able to really see such a discrepancy. At least in my experience.
 
considering the spam outlived enough for me to be able to open the question, and ponder at those two close votes... I'd say they only VTC-ed :)
judging by the recent experience on spam posts
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ could be
 
Maybe that was one of those fast-mutating spams (i.e. edited in the grace period). I saw one earlier and was considering close vote, but then it wad edited into its spam form.
 
@AdrianMole that's not possible anymore
 
8:27 AM
^^ it was, yes. The new revision change does show it
 
What isn't possible?
 
new users can't benefit anymore by the grace period
there was a meta post discussing about this
 
Ah, OK. But the quick edits are still happening.
 
Initially the title of the question was "What is the return type of printf() function, and what it returns?" and was later changed.
 
right... the original version was not spam...
 
8:28 AM
The one I saw was also about printf vs puts.
 
ok, so spammers evaded this new measure put in place by SO
they are learning pretty fast :)
 
They didn't evade anything. The measure is only to remove the grace editing for new accounts. And it worked - now we can see the edit.
 
ok, my bad, they learned nothing :P
curious, though, how is this measure gonna help with spam?
 
8:47 AM
It could probably help moderators, curators and Smoke Detector, because all of those can learn from the process, if the edits aren't hidden.
... e.g. if a mod comes across an upvoted spam, they can then see that it may have been upvoted before the edit.
... so no need to track down and punish the upvoter(s).
 
@Cristik if the edit creates a revision entry, it should be sent over websocket and caught by SmokeDetector
...I think
 
9:19 AM
Does this have anything to do with programming? Presumably they want a solution in MATLAB, but as it stands it reads more like a robotics or mathematics question
 
@Adriaan unless we write all the code, no.
 
@rene thanks. They seem to be at a loss how to even conceptually understand the problem, let alone programming it. Left a comment as such, suggesting Robotics.SE
 
The folks over at robotics will be happy with you ...
 
9:53 AM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, request can't be actioned
 
:54567213 haha, they were so quick with their spam-edit attempt, that they managed to post spam + original fake question at the same time :D
 
@Adriaan FSTW - Fasters Spammer in The West
 
10:07 AM
Anyone here know how 'proper' licences work with Visual Studio? I mean, is a licence for (say) VS2015 also valid for 2017 and 2019?
... I get them all for free, because I work in the obscene world of Ivory-Towered Academia.
 
@AdrianMole I think so? IIRC, there is the community license which is free but for commercial you need a paid license. I'm not aware of there being difference licenses for different versions of VS.
 
the recommended solution is to switch to a job where you can avoid Visual Studio ... but if you can't, docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/install/… looks vaguely like they are eager to get everyone to upgrade so they don't have to support legacy versions
 
The higher priced licenses just give you more stuff unrelated to VS, like credit in Azure and access to some other services.
 
Thanks, both. Just that there was a question just now about a feature that appears to be missing from VS2015 but present in 2017. I commented, asking why not just upgrade. There are frequent questions where this may also be the solution.
 
It could be that a project only works with certain versions of VS. It's usually a bad project but it happens. It might also not be the case.
 
10:14 AM
I can maybe do an experiment. I currently only use the Community versions. Maybe I'll activate my Enterprise licence in VS2019 and see if that also carries across to VS2022.
 
I have cow-orcers whose compilation jobs require an ancient version just because it needs to be binary-compatible with stuff which cannot be replaced
 
I know some developers who use VS jump to the newest one ASAP, others keep the old one as long as reasonably possible. And many are somewhere in between. Both are valid approaches depending on how much you trust your project and tooling.
 
I also have projects that use build toolsets from earlier versions. For, e.g., stuff to work on XP, you need the VS2017 'special' set.
 
there's also the case of build reproducibility; if the artefact was compiled with VS MCMDXXVII then you still need to have that available to be able to rebuild
 
... and, yes, many of my "target audience" are impecunious academics from developing countries. They still use Windows XP machines.
Still puzzling about what "cow-orcers" are!
 
10:21 AM
I guess the conventional spelling is with a k en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/Cow-orker
 
It's coworkers who have not yet left for greener pastures. The management milks them for all it can.
 
 
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11:58 AM
Morning
 
 
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1:16 PM
10 messages moved to SOCVR Request Graveyard - move message cleanup due to spam wave
 
1:33 PM
Room owner, please delete this cv requestion. OP has now provided enough code to allow the question to be answerable. @Machavity, @NathanOliver
 
1:51 PM
@karel they mentioned they are using Ansible, I think this question is on-topic here
actually... disregard the above, ansible playbooks are just simple yaml files, no programming involved, so yeah, the close reason is correct
why do we still allow posts from unregistered users? seems like an open invitation for abuses/spam
 
wanna remove barriers to participation
 
@Cristik We do? I thought we didn't.
We do accept edits from anonymous users, though
 
Unregistered, not anonymous.
 
the last SD report is from an unregistered user
 
only answers are allowed
 
1:57 PM
@VLAZ is there an a difference between an anonymous an unregistered user?
 
@Cristik I was using them as synonyms
 
ok, so edits and as @Dharman says, answers
maybe it would be a good time to deny both :)
 
Didn't know about the answers
 
They have usernames, so by definition, that's not "anonymous", I think.
 
I mean, what's the net gain of allowing interactions with the site via unregistered users
 
1:59 PM
I'm technically away with the edits since they are entered as suggestions. Not sure I'm fine with answers.
There is a separate issue of the edit queue being full.
 
do we have positive ROI by allowing unregistered users to contribute? :)
 
anonymous is literally anonymous and their actions will be owned by Community bot. I believe only edits can be suggested by truly anonymous users.
unregistered is someone with content authorship, although no SO account. I guess, but I'm not sure, that it's due to licensing
 
the profile page for the user of the last SD report said someting like "ddd (unregistered user)"
maybe I'm misinterpreting that "unregistered user" badge :)
@VLAZ theoretically this can open a can of worms, malicious scripts can end up posing thousands of edit suggestion
 
Am I allowed to link to a profile as an example here?
 
@Cristik As I said - the queue itself is a separate issue.
 
2:03 PM
@VLAZ to me, it's the same problem
 
Non-malicious scripts called "users" are currently managing to post thousands of edit suggestions.
 
Eh, I'd better not. I think that meta post covers it.
 
nice finding, @GeneralGrievance
 
2:06 PM
? What did I find?
 
"On Stack Overflow (and a few other sites in the network), you have to log in (i.e. have a "registered" profile) before you can ask questions. Answering doesn't have the same limitation" - wow, wondering why spammers didn't yet explore that vulnerability
@GeneralGrievance the meta post :)
 
Let me assure you, people are using this "feature" a lot
 
yeah, but 99% of SD spam reports are for questions
or is SD ignoring answers?...
 
@Cristik Unregistered users have a cookie-based account. They can earn reputation etc. just like anyone else, but there are some restrictions, e. g. they can't vote so they also cannot delete their own posts. Sometimes you see low-rep users vandalize their answers instead of deleting them and then it#s worth looking at their profile to check if they are unregistered. An anonymous user has no account at all.
 
I guess it's easier for the spam bots to post questions. Dunno.
 
2:08 PM
@Cristik No
 
probably easier to skip captcha
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine that was a rhetorical question :)
 
still wondering why spammers haven't exploited this :)
and now I hope spammers are not following this chat...
 
I think unregistered users cannot ask questions, that was implemented in 2011
 
2:09 PM
@Cristik They have. Just not as heavily as questions. I've got two theories. And they aren't mutually exclusive, either: 1. Questions are more visible 2. Not many know about answers.
 
@JeanneDark They can, but they have to answer something first to get the account with which to ask
 
It's rather easy IMO. You can post a question directly without any further context. For an answer you first have to find an unprotected/non-locked/non-closed question.
 
@Cristik fair concern. Ahem, IF THERE ARE ANY SPAMMERS HERE, PLEASE STOP READING THE CHAT. TANKS IN ADVANCE.
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I am triggerd, tanks are no jok
 
Much as I dislike spammers, I don't think we need to send our tanks after them. Flags are fine.
 
2:12 PM
the flags have tanks on them
 
tanks or thanks?
 
@VLAZ And please also stop spamming, tanks a batalyon in advanceding
 
Advancing tanks is currently quite the sensitive topic
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Even if they remain unregistered? Jeff announced the change in 2011: "So from this point on, registration is required to ask questions (but not to answer)."
 
I assume spam in 2011 was not such a hot topic...
 
2:13 PM
There are tanks in Advance... Wars for GBA, though.
 
wow, this is one of the laziest spam posts in a while... only two lines amount of text
 
@GeneralGrievance that was a fun one
 
the less text, the faster it's deleted. it was visible only 17 seconds. Sounds like the Fastest spam deletion in the west
 
less bytes to process :)
 
@JeanneDark I think so? Knew someone a couple years ago who was fully unregistered, and who posted questions. They had a few hundred rep though, which might be relevant. I might also be misremembering
 
2:16 PM
Yeah, it's annoying when a single flick of the scroll wheel doesn't get you to the flag link. For the long ones, I find it's faster to press "End", then scroll up.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine May have been before 2011
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Was it on SO? I think it's a SO feature only
 
Actually, I think it was a network site. That would explain it
Would be nice if there was more transparency on what currently applies
 
2:39 PM
@GeneralGrievance You could also flag such answers as VLQ or NAA
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine hah
 
Oh, NAA is valid? Usually I just use VLQ, but it's too old.
 
NAA and VLQ are interchangeable. Yet another reason VLQ is a pointless flag
 
yes, we accept NAA. While you could edit it to translate, if the majority is non-English we can't be sure if it even is an answer. Delete is a good option
and of course, there's plenty of "tengo misma problema"
 
2:51 PM
First someone reverted support number spam to the first, innocuous revision, then the question was closed as needs details or clarity...
 
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@JeanneDark It stayed undeleted for a while, and I'm assuming that's the reason.
 
Probably because of the helpful edit
 
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@JeanneDark by looking at your profile, I see that's you've downvoted 57k times and upvoted...7 times!?
 
Pretty heavy spam day today. Heavier than the normal support number spam, it feels like.
 
@richardec I can't explain how these upvotes came about
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2:57 PM
"And the weather today: mostly spammy"
@JeanneDark Misclicks. Happens. Tim does lose his keys often.
 
@VLAZ But considering that we're talking about upvotes, those are the moments when Tim found the keys.
 
@JeanneDark with your seven upvotes, you are on second place here
 
@VLAZ Shows how your past mistakes can haunt you
 
So if you just have 1-repuation does that mean downvoting someone's answer has zero effect? As long as you don't spam an exorbitant amount of downvotes each day to trigger the vote fraud algo?
 
3:08 PM
@MFerguson Yes, if you up- or downvote without having the privilege, these votes are just internal feedback
 
I don't know about "zero effect". It would contribute to an question or answer ban.
 
Ahh yes, I forgot downvoting was a privilege
 
@HenryEcker I don't think they contribute to a ban or anything.
 
@MFerguson Supposedly those votes are counted but...AFAIK, there is zero effect from them, yes. You can also downvote if you're not logged in and it similarly doesn't do anything (but is supposedly tracked).
 
3:09 PM
@MFerguson So is upvoting (at 15 rep)
 
@JeanneDark I misread that as does downvoting a 1-rep user's answer have zero effect.
@VLAZ It is tracked and some of the data is available in under Post Feedback in 10k Tools. Though like most things the page in the 10k tools is hard to find and the UI is confusing.
 
@VLAZ Aw, I'm not on that list. :[
 
@HenryEcker Never even saw it until now.
 
@VLAZ Idk how useful it actually is... but it's there...
I think that's generally how I feel about most of the 10k tools tbh
 
The one I look the most at is the closure rates. And the delete page.
I don't think they are terribly useful but are at least interesting.
 
3:17 PM
I mostly look at NATO and controversial edits. I think there's a lot of useful information there. Its useability is what I find to be lacking.
 
@VLAZ @desertnaut in 70th place, I didn't even make it to top 100 )-:
 
You are higher on the flaggers ranking though
 
@VLAZ lol, interesting query
 
Is there a way to retract a VLQ review vote? I think I made a mistake on a review.
 
I don't believe there's anyway to "undo" any kind of review item, but if your action cast a flag or a vote, you can go to the main post and retract the flag or vote
@HovercraftFullOfEels FYI you can just use 'unclear' for that kind of thing
 
3:32 PM
I didn't flag, just voted "Recommend Deletion" and am kind of regretting it - I think I probably voted the wrong way on it.
 
ah, in that case no there is not a way to undo/invalidate that short of enough other users voting against that method
UGH, the SEDE query loses the username and replaces it with ID when downloading the results as a CSV
rude
 
3:45 PM
 
¡Muchas gracias!
 
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine Well, I can't find it in your review history, so I guess the post is now deleted (which means other users shared your verdict). If you want to undelete it, then you'll have to give us a link.
 
4:06 PM
 
Officially posted my 1000th answer, woah!
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You found 1000 things worth answering?
 
eeek
 
4:50 PM
@VLAZ there's a lot of interesting stuff, but definitely also low quality Qs to be honest. Looking back, I wouldn't have answered some of those today.
 
You were young and needed the rep ;)
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5:12 PM
"When a user adds a data to the database..." - it was only me who heard tones of a certain song by Michael Bolton when reading this question title?
 
5:53 PM
@MarcoBonelli Congrats, that's quite the milestone.
@dur Ah, if the question already had the official documentation linked in it, then yeah it probably is not asking for that...
however, just looking at it again (I had forgotten about it since last I spoke about it), it looks like OP is asking for the official documentation location, since the docs they can find have some broken links.
I don't think it should have been closed, personally
@cigien good finds, thanks
 
6:41 PM
@TylerH ty :)
 
6:53 PM
 
7:04 PM
stackoverflow.com/help/badges/901/convention Now I don't need to spam grammar posts on meta :)
My relentless purge of all grammar mistakes will, however, continue
 
dur
@TylerH Sure the links are broken, because the framework is old and not maintained anymore. However, I will be more careful next time.
 
7:30 PM
 
7:51 PM
 
Just removed a non-English answer from 2013 that managed to accumulate 7 upvotes and 5 downvotes before anyone finally flagged it...
 
8:19 PM
 
8:37 PM
@RyanM nice find
 
Credit goes to the person who finally flagged it :-)
 
Was it in LQA? That sounds like something I found earlier.
 
Apparently there's more floating around
 
@GeneralGrievance It does indeed sound exactly like something you found earlier, feel free to claim credit for it :-p although as a moderator I got it from the moderator flag UI.
 
I mean there's actually a really surprising amount... Off to flag some stuff.
 
8:41 PM
@HenryEcker That actually has same English at the very end of it. It's just well-hidden.
 
"Cuando the function tries to return" just switching mid-sentence.
 
"Cuando the function tries to return $hijos" is spanglish
I don't know if that counts
 
It's also more-or-less pointing out a typo
 
Maybe not, but I can't see it anymore anyway. Oh well.
 
@GeneralGrievance screenshot for reference
 
8:44 PM
How do we feel about non-english intros? This for example could be edited to be a code only answer.
 
@HenryEcker ...yeah I'm just gonna translate that.
 
How about here?
I wasn't kidding when I said there was a lot of them btw... XD
 
Yeah, I sometimes get the idea to search for keywords that I think might be indicative of a problematic post, and I find some interesting stuff sometimes.
 
@HenryEcker ehhhhh...asker no longer has an account, question is lacking, comments under the answer indicate they didn't actually use the proposed answer...I'm just removing the whole thing. In that case the non-English text was actually the main useful thing in the answer.
 
Like title:solved.
 
user17242583
8:59 PM
Is there a way to see how many votes you have left in a day?
 
no :(
 
Do it a bunch until it tells you you have 4 left.
 
user17242583
@GeneralGrievance I have done that soooo many times today... ;)
 
status-declined is the best meta tag
.
 
9:24 PM
@tripleee i guess that's an easy mistake to make. The thing is that grep, find, ls, and all the others are stand-alone executables. The fact that one can execute them within a shell script doesn't make them part of bash (or any other shell), they can be executed by the kernel when invoked from bash, csh, even python. os.walk() doesn't stand on its own, without using python and import os you can't call it from the command-line for a one-off.
 
@richardec I guess you can just calculate it from your "Votes" tab: 40 - (votes cast today) + (votes cast on deleted posts today)
 
9:42 PM
@MFerguson BTW: I have a userscript which adds mod and RO markers to users in transcripts. Feel free to bug me from time to time about releasing it. I'm a bit busy at the moment (no surprise there), so it won't be immediately. Given that they are associated, it's probably reasonable to also bug me about releasing the userscript which adds showing parent/reply highlighting on hover (similar to what the chat page does).
 
@Makyen I would definitely find the latter useful, FWIW. It's one of the more annoying things about reading the transcript (since I generally know who the mods and ROs are)
 
Can someone with better JS skilsl then me please check if this question is salvagable. It seems to me there are many markup or typo issues
 
10:11 PM
@HenryEcker IMHO, that counts as non-English. Anything like that, leave a comment and vote to close. Even if everyone understands, allowing to 'pass' curation sets a bad precedent. No non-English is the rule. Don't be afraid to enforce that rule.
... one can correct (maybe) but, again in my humble opinion, it is better to educate new users with close votes than it is with (auto-) corrections.
 
@AdrianMole Thanks. What I meant in reply to "That actually has same English at the very end of it. It's just well-hidden." was I don't know that spanglish counts as "same English at the end". Not whether or not that answer should be deleted which I agree the answer was "yes" that should be removed.
 
@HenryEcker Hmm. Just came in. In answers, it's a bit trickier. But, at the very least, a downvote and comment. Get the OP to learn: curators are educators, not just judges.
 
@AdrianMole Another piece of information that was pertinent to that conversation is the age of the answers. We were looking answers that were many years old. Which I think adds even more grey area.
 
... as opposed to unjust judges. :) But I hope you get what I mean.
@HenryEcker If a "simple" edit can fix it, then fix it. If it's more problematic, then flag it. But, as you say, there is a "grey area".
... as curators, we are not here to be "divinely inspired judges". We just do our best. If that best isn't (in our opinion) good enough, then we raise a custom flag, asking for help.
... Mods are (with a few notable exceptions) essentially human.
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I firmly believe that a custom mod flag, raised in good faith (from an established, "good flagger"), will not be declined, even if the handling mod disagrees with your assessment. Don't be afraid of flag stats!
 
10:34 PM
I disagree on that @AdrianMole. I seen many strange decliend flags while the reproted issues is handled still
 
@tacoshy Hmm. Don't know the details, but mods generally do decline custom flags on issues that can be handled without their specific interaction.
... but, even so, if you think it's worthy of moderator attention, then flag it such. (If you get lots of declines, then you need to rethink.)
 
I have declined so many flags
"The downvote is wrong" - Decline!
 
I will not go into details. I think 37 declines on 580 flags is ok'ish. But as e.g. a question with "how do I code a program just with a sheet of paper and a pencil" I flagged it as obviose trolling, flag was declined and the question removed in the same instance
@Dharman yeh so funny how some users think down-votes are not justified while they obviosly break the SO guidelines
 
@tacoshy See. That could just be closed (and deleted) without mod intervention. Mod flags are for exceptional cases.
 
@tacoshy Assuming you're referring to "How to change display text to read “out of stock”?", that was deleted without moderator intervention.
 
10:46 PM
I'm not sure but I believe that was an obviose troll question to. Something like: How can I make a browser tell that everythign is out of stock when my girlfriend tries to buy stuff in the internet
 
I'd say it was possibly trolling, though definitely off-topic
 
@tacoshy Doesn't matter. If it's an obvious troll, then it will be handled by the community. Flag it as spam, or R/A.
{I really need my new keyboard, BTW.}
 
@AdrianMole I'm flagging your old keyboard as R/A ;-)
 
Don't need a new keyboard to downvote stuff
 
:D
 
10:49 PM
Maybe Adrian downvotes with keyboard shortcuts.
 
Meh. The donwvot ky is, lik the "" key, well jittry.
 
I rather need a new screen then a keyboard... my keyboard seem to eb mroe resilient then the screen everytime i throw them...
 
I remain quite pleased with my Drop CTRL.
 
11:25 PM
what two dolts upvoted that questions?
 
user17242583
11:43 PM
@MarcoBonelli Okay, let me try that. 40 - 134 = -94!?
 
@richardec you are missing the last addition
 
user17242583
lol, oops, votes cast on deleted posts today. How do I get that though?
 
user17242583
 
user17242583
So 40 - 134 + 35 = -59...still not right
 
user17242583
Maybe just 40 - 35 = 5...?
 
user17242583
11:48 PM
@MarcoBonelli hah, my vote limit is reached to day and I've upvoted 5 times. So available votes = 40 - (non-deleted DVs) - (non-deleted UVs) = 40 - 35 - 5 = 0
 
user17242583
which is correct.
 
@richardec yeah, manually is the only way to do it
 
user17242583
I wonder if I can figure out how to write a userscript to add that info somewhere.
 
@richardec ok this formula is simpler haha
 
user17242583
Are there any SE-specific tips for writing userscripts? Tbh, I've never even heard of the term till I came here.
 

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