@Dharman Why delete that? On its own it had gotten 92k views (about 1/2 the views of the dup-target). Closed as a duplicate, it seems like it would make a reasonable signpost.
@Dharman On its own, that's not a reason to delete a question that's demonstrated that it's useful. That's a reason to close and/or apply a historical lock.
@Dharman, @Makyen I really do not think that stackoverflow.com/q/14894899/5468463 is on-topic, no matter the upvotes. The recommendation of the library is for an other question, "touching" the coding. And it is already done here stackoverflow.com/a/20349730/5468463 . It is asking some basic knowledge info
^it is in reference to the previous dialog, not as a request or something related to you as mods :)
@Dharman As the one who submitted the initial cv-pls on that, I did initially have a hesitation on closing it simply because of the issue of "tags" between it and the dupe I selected which had a very clear programming requirement: SQL # of characters. I still thought it might be useful as a closed question as a "signpost" that was not SQL-specific.
It also listed a "minimum" (which I have zero reason to think is programmatically useful except maybe as a unit test)
As for deleting, I'd ask if any of the answers of that (generic min+max) question were not duplicative of the SQL "max" question. Deleting a question is also deleting its answers so the "usefulness" question is bigger.
(And I now see the other question with the minimum and answers that cover that case, so I'm ok with the deletion, although would have left it alone myself.)
@Vega The question you linked to has the [validation] tag and specifically refers to validating user-input. That seems entirely on-topic to me. And while in theory a regex answer could answer that, it's entirely more complicated than a minimum length input check for a user field.
@DanielWiddis the tag is there by necessity for the question to exist. And of course we can guess that it might be used to make use in some kind of validation in a code, but it is not related to programming. It is same as to ask how many angles a square has (sorry for the banalising, but it is the first thing that comes to mind)
@Vega I'm not going to try to mind-read what the OP wanted to know in 2013. I do know that I often write unit tests to validate that I have received the correct output from a method, and it is useful for me to have a test that confirms the number of characters I received is greater than or equal to a specific value.
@Vega Including the words "i need to validate user input" seems 100% programming oriented to me. In what other context do you find user input?
@Vega A peer-reviewed paper on validating input under the "computer science" topic seems to confirm my gut feel. :) Quote from the paper: "Data size: If the data is a string, is it of the correct length?"
@HenryEcker It is not in my book. If it is, then the question is off-topic (typo)
@DanielWiddis Without going farther, the paper makes use of the theory in a use, i.e. in regex. Then we have a bunch of dup targets, one of them being the question with the answer in my first message
The paper in fact confirms that validation without application in coding is off-topic
@HenryEcker I don't think its NAA. But I wasn't sure if it was a useful answer. It looks to me like "make sure you have all the code you want to run selected when you 'run selected'" which seems a bit like a "have you tried restarting your computer" type answer.
@NathanOliver Regarding the above request of mine (closed unclear question is dupe target of OP's later agaian reposted question), would the correct procedure now be to bin that request and could I then request deletion of the dupe (it has a code-only answer), so as to not target that OP?
You could flag questions with gibberish to circumvent the quality filters as R/A since they are abuse of the system... At least Cody would approve, I think
But there is a problem with such questions and editing out the gibberish doesn't help, since it also doesn't substitute it with an explanation of the problem. So you could argue that they should at least be closed as "needs debugging details" or "needs details or clarity".
Usually the presence of gibberish is a good predictor that the question is close-worthy. In this particular case I wasn't very keen to evaluate the merits of the post so I did the bare minimum to not leave gibberish around.
But yeah, I was being lazy and it'd be best to do something more helpful
I'm not sure if there is a feedback option we can give Smokey for such posts but there should be one, IMHO. We definitely want the bot to continue to catch such gibberish-fillers.
@MarcoBonelli There isn't a documented, supported SE Chat API. All interfacing with it is done using the internal APIs which the chat system uses. All information/use by non-SE code is based on reverse engineering what's available/used by SE. There's some documentation on what other's have found spread around on MSE and Stack Apps. There are a variety of libraries which implement at least a portion of what's available (again, on MSE and Stack Apps).
In addition, you can also look at existing userscripts to figure out how they handled doing things.
@MarcoBonelli SmokeDetector uses a Python library called ChatExchange by ManishEarth which seems reasonably stable, though it breaks because of SE-side changes occasionally. It basically scrapes the chat page
@tripleee While ChatExchange does scrape some pages, which is the only place some information is available, it also uses the internal APIs and directly connects to the WebSocket. So, it's doing quite a bit more/better than just scraping pages. :;
@StephenOstermiller I realized after I migrated this that I missed the typo ("Is this...is possible") in your edit, in case you feel like touching it up.
@NathanOliver Yeah, it's always been that way (i.e. the dup-target entries are draggable), but the drag target on the left is really easy to miss, particularly given that the site really doesn't do much of anything else with dragging within the site (you can drag and drop an image for upload). IMO, there should be text somewhere on that page indicating that dragging is an option.
I am quite fond of it. It definitely has some negative performance implications, but my eyes love it... :-)
I usually remember to turn it off when taking screenshots for Meta, but I forgot once and was promptly asked how I seemed to have dark mode outside of SO proper... :-)
It's been a little on the fritz recently for me (visually breaking a couple of my chat userscripts) and I haven't had a chance to investigate.
My money's on it being the new v5 preview stuff. Gotta poke at it, though.
@GeneralGrievance That is unclear, but I went with recommendation request, since even if clarified it won't be on-topic, and I wouldn't want them to think that's the issue and try to fix it.
@AdrianMole I'd love to get information on exactly how the system encourages users to upvote and/or accept answers...IMHO, something's missing somewhere.
Or I am underestimating people's determination to not read such things, who knows.
@RyanM Meh. I actually understand why people don't want to "accept" an answer quickly (I even prefer that they don't actually). But not upvoting ... bah!
@Turing85 I wouldn't say it's obsolete, at all. Just that, by the time I got round to thinking about using it, I discovered the C++17 std::execution_policy (or whatever it's called). A small amount of experimentation showed that the Standard system was, in almost all cases, at least as good as OpenMP.
@Turing85 Yeah, but C++17 allows stuffs like: for_each(execution::par_unseq, ....
I'm not saying there won't be cases where OpenMP wins, just that, for my use cases, I don't really see the point.
Don't get me wrong. Independent libraries like OpenMP, boost and Howard Hinnent's date/time stuff have, for sure, been inspirational in terms of incremental changes to the C++ Standards. And long may such continue to be so!
But, more seriously, folks, there are some regulars, who I know from being followers of shared tags, that are generally very decent folks but who, nonetheless, occasionally posts weird or out-of-order comments, etc. I assume this is likely due to chemical intake, but I refuse to engage; if the comment(s) is(are) bad enough, I'll flag, but then just move on. (I have been known to engage in chat when intoxicated ... but that's just chat.)
But, even in chat, there are rooolz.
... which I have been known to fall foul of, on occasion.
^ What's that last SD report all about? Is it R/A? Or just ol' fashioned double-D vote?
... or was some random spammer watching the discussion we had in here yesteday?