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user17242583
12:04 AM
@Slate what actually is happening? Is it really some manual work being done, or are the computers just slow today? :)
 
I think it's DDos
 
user17242583
Oh really? So someone is like pinging it or making requests to it real hard?
 
@richardec Folks are aware of the problem & are working on it. Past that, [shrug]. I am a bird.
 
user17242583
@Slate okay thank you, I see. Take care not to get eaten by any hamsters! :P
 
Hah, will do, thanks for the tip!
 
user17242583
12:25 AM
@Slate is there any ETA? I'm trying hard to submit an answer, to no avail.
 
Sadly, no. Well, probably someone could provide one, but I'm sure they are currently occupied.
 
user17242583
Okay. I'm sorry for being a bother, it's just frustrating when you're trying to get something done to deal with a page that takes eons of time to load... :)
 
Naw, I get it. Doesn't bother me much. FWIW I have things I'd like to do on-site, too, for what little they'd interest this chat. So we're kinda in the same boat. ;)
 
user17242583
Nice to know I'm not alone :) Thank you for sharing.
 
Hello, i haven't any unanswered question is SO for now, but i want to know if i can provide a link to a github repository in any new question may i ask...
instead of code snippet if it's not possible (huge code).
 
12:39 AM
No, you can't do that. A question must be self contained and remain answerable even if all links it contains should die.
 
Well, maybe cut the code down to the minimum that demonstrate the problem.
 
Nice, i understand.
 
You may add links to your question if a) the question remains valid without them b) they add value to the question and c) they are not promotional.
 
user17242583
Although it is somewhat often done here, I agree it's not a very good idea.
 
Questions on SO/SE must be self contained. External links are OK for additional context, but the question must be answerable from what's in the question without the need to go to another page.
 
user17242583
12:41 AM
Ok @Mayken, I'll keep that in mind.
 
Hey
 
user17242583
@Chris also, the more code involved, the less likely you'll be to get help. There's a thing called minimal reproducible examples, but SO is too slow currently for me to even find the page...
 
We are currently offline for maintenance
That's why.
What's the porpose of this room? Review new questions that needs clarifie?
 
user17242583
socvr.org @Chris
 
user17242583
Discussion of closing/deleting questions, answers, and various site-cleanup efforts.
 
user17242583
12:48 AM
Although I can't even go there...any one else with the same problem?
 
user17242583
Peer’s Certificate has been revoked.
 
Yeah, there's sth borked there.
 
I don't remember who is the one that manage's the site, @makyen
 
Works for me. :;
 
OSCP staple could been broken?
 
12:50 AM
Hmmm. =D
No, there's def something going wrong. ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=socvr.org&latest
 
@BaummitAugen Oh...
I was kinda "hey, this test seems to have partial results"
 
Heh, also: No IPv6 shakes fist branches
 
Oh hey, here it is venafi.com/blog/…
> We will begin revoking certificates starting at 16:00 UTC on 28 January 2022
Makyen probably isn't UTC yet
 
I'm on mobile at the moment, and probably for a while, potentially days. So, I'm going to be able to do quite a bit less than normal. @rene should be able to help, our at least get more info.
 
[socvr.org]: The certificate retrieved from your web server has serial 034b57db6f8c4110fd5ba6bc864390425ffb and was found in our affected data set. Please renew your certificate as soon as possible. Help is available at community.letsencrypt.org/t/…
 
user17242583
12:58 AM
Oh yay, SO is back online. @Slate
 
Well, that would explain it (as expected, given the issue).
@richardec that's not unlikely to be intermittent, given the issues we've been seeing.
 
Nice. Now I can get work done ;)
 
user17242583
1:22 AM
Now look at those. Very old non-answers. I found them from here.
 
1:46 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/70901006/… this seems to be off-topic
 
 
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2:59 AM
we should get reputation compensation for the server down time
 
3:33 AM
There's going to be an outage of comments.socvr.org (and maybe socvr.org depending on if I modify the reverse proxy) sometime tomorrow while I deploy updated software.
We're getting 2 feet (#myunitsmyrules) of snow tomorrow so that's my indoor activity for the day.
 
Perfect meeting weather
 
yup
 
@MFerguson That seems like it would be going a bit too far. OTOH, SE has in the past given people credit for being present on such days when they had been present the day before and the day after.
@gunr2171 That's quite a bit of snow. Indoor activities sound like a good idea. :)
 
I wonder if you can thermal cool a computer in a bank of snow.....
asking for a friend, of course
 
According to Linus, you can.
 
4:05 AM
@gunr2171 You can take some canned air and turn that sucker upside down. Works real good. Just mind the bitterant
 
 
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7:08 AM
Possible heresy: is this a real question?
 
7:54 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica stackoverflow.com/posts/8681/timeline deleted and undeleted
 
 
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jps
9:36 AM
can't access socvr.org right now: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE
 
@jps I can repro
 
10:25 AM
@jps I don't think you need to separately duplicate the SmokeDetector reports here
 
jps
@tripleee I thought these SD reports are more of a "this looks suspicious" nature and my flag-pls a confirmation that it is actually spam
 
10:48 AM
yeah, I can understand the reasoning, but the spam is typically getting enough attention on Stack Overflow already
sometimes when egregious spam is only reported in Charcoal, I separately bring it up here to get it quickly deleted
if a domain is only watched it won't be reported here, for example (if it only triggers experimental reasons which start with "possibly" it will not be reported here)
more recently I have taken to bump spam posts which linger for a long time (say, more than an hour) with a "still up" reminder, but not here, since bumping is explicitly disallowed in this room
spam on lower-traffic sites can easily stay up for hours or days, but Charcoal + SOCVR + organic flags on Stack Overflow typically take care of spam here within minutes, if not seconds
 
jps
11:20 AM
@tripleee right, in most cases sd reported spam gets deleted even before I can click on flag, but the few reported above stayed all several minutes. I just love it to see spam posts getting nuked within seconds after being posted ;)
 
 
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2:08 PM
^ that's Portuguese, btw.
 
@Vickel Thanks, I'm right most of the time, maybe I need to learn the differences a bit more ^^'
 
@LucaKiebel check for ç ã õ then it is most likely PT
 
jps
@Vickel OP now tranlated to english, but I still don't understand anything. Also the google translation doesn't make any sense to me. Do you understand what they want to ask?
 
@jps the question doesn't make any sense to me, neither in Portuguese nor in English
 
jps
2:23 PM
@Vickel really strange. Maybe it was machine translated from Korean via Hindi to Portuguese and the English
 
hahaha
 
jps
also the title, tags and the picture don't make any sense at all.
 
the QR (avatar) points to a Brazilian governmental site ending in gov.br
 
jps
@Vickel also checked it, so not even the usual spam.
 
OP now added "The question is how many mice can I use or use on a single computer"
This has to be trolling. And OP is suspended on pt.so
@LucaKiebel OP added code
 
2:43 PM
@jps Hamster abuse? (Well, rodents, anyway.)
 
3:12 PM
@WiktorStribiżew Isn't this question off-topic anyway? More like administration.
 
 
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4:12 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis I'm not able to delete that. I think it's being blocked because it's currently a target for this question. Could you edit the target list on that one?
 
@cigien yeah sorry, I was on cruise-control and put it there myself :\
 
No worries. Thanks for editing the target list.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis how does a 12k rep user post that :'(
smh
 
SO down again?
 
4:32 PM
@MarcoBonelli next time comment the usual "hello and welcome to SO"...
 
@LucaKiebel lol
@AdrianMole hmm seems fine to me
 
There was a few minutes with very slow response and other odd behaviour. Back now.
May have been my local LAN, though?
 
There have been slowdowns over the last days for me, too.
 
jps
@LucaKiebel same here
 
 
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6:01 PM
You should not be able to see the username of suggested edits. Super toxic and 99% of my regected edits are the same person
 
6:11 PM
@MFerguson what?
 
@MFerguson Regardless of any other arguments, showing the username of the author of the text (both the OP and editor) is a requirement of the CC BY-SA license, so not showing it isn't going to happen.
 
I'm starting maintenance of the server running socvr.org (and comments.socvr.org). I'll also try and fix the let's encrypt revoked cert issue.
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@MFerguson If you feel a user is targeting you, then raise an "in need of moderator intervention" flag and explain the issue.
 
6:49 PM
Apparently I'm exceptionally clumsy this morning
 
looks like a "true positive" to me
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter It's about a .NET JSON library, called Json.NET, def a false positive
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter In time from post to closure this is a winner :)
 
7:18 PM
^^^ not a great answer either
 
7:38 PM
Can I have someone go to scovr.org and verify that the website's cert is valid and issued today?
@jps the cert issue should be fixed now
 
jps
@gunr2171 thanks, works for me!
 
excellent
Maintenance of socvr.org's server is done. If people/RO's/rene would like details ping me later. Hamburger time.
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