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user17242583
1:03 AM
That question seems from the title (a-fg-sdfg-sdfhg-sfgh-fh-sdfgh-fsh-sgfh-sgfh-sgf-h) to be spam. It was deleted by the author, but how could it be marked as spam? Undeleted and then flagged as spam?
 
@user17242583 The question was actually vandalized by the user. In general, if a post that you would flag as R/A is already deleted, you don't need to do anything about it. Yes, it can be undeleted and redeleted as spam if a moderator wanted to do that.
 
user17242583
Okay, but is that proper? What if a user posted spam, and then deleted it themselves? Then it wouldn't get the spam penalty and all that.
 
You don't have to worry about the penalties for the user. The purpose of red flags (Spam / R/A) is to get abusive content off the site as quickly as possible, and if the post gets deleted, mission accomplished.
 
user17242583
Okay, good to know. Thank you. I was just wondering if there was anything special besides the -100 rep loss that should happen to the post if it were spam, such as the blocking or mask or whatever 10k users see when they visit it.
 
@Turing85 It should be the number of flags cast.
 
1:20 AM
@user17242583 No, if the post is deleted, there isn't really anything that needs to be done.
 
@AdrianMole I'd assume the code which displays the "Eligible Flaggers" doesn't include a check for if the person is a moderator on that site or not. Moderators, and CMs, who the system considers a moderator on every site, are definitely excluded from raising flags on the sites where the system knows them to be a moderator. That's done at a low level, so not even manual flags can be raised through metasmoke by moderators on the sites they moderate.
sigh Clearly, others had already basically provided that information.
 
2:20 AM
Anyone with java/junit knowledge willing to give insight or edit this answer. I think the answer is suggesting making sure that all have unique names, but I don't really know enough to know if this is a reasonable answer or if that is, in fact, what is being suggested.
 
3:18 AM
Anyone here dig deep into the tag?
 
user17242583
3:32 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'll give it a try :) what is it?
 
@user17242583 this question, is it from an infamous anonymous C# poster?
 
user17242583
4:32 AM
Sorry @HovercraftFullOfEels that post is deleted and I'm <10k :(
 
6:10 AM
 
6:32 AM
Is there any way to delete edits you suggested? I've had 5 pending edits for like 4 days now
 
6:43 AM
@MFerguson nope
 
7:38 AM
@cigien what hammer did you loose? and why?
 
8:31 AM
@ThomasWeller wow I dont think i have ever seen a question with that many really bad answers.
 
 
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10:13 AM
 
10:36 AM
Is this an answer or link-only?
 
11:12 AM
I would not flag it
 
11:25 AM
 
11:50 AM
 
12:20 PM
@desertnaut better to disengage from/not respond to comments like that... Just flag
 
@SurajRao did not see any comment here; are you referring to some other thread?
 
@SurajRao oh, ok
 
12:55 PM
 
1:26 PM
@JeanneDark not about programming, actually?
 
@desertnaut That, too. Sometimes it's hard to choose when so many fit.
 
aaand the profile nav items wrap now because they added an 'articles' section
meanwhile they're still not centered for when you look at them on another users' profile
 
@desertnaut Meh. I'd leave it. It's not open-ended enough that any answer will suffice. The recent answer was just to promote that blog
 
@Machavity ok thanks
 
2:56 PM
Now that I have 20k I find myself wishing we could cast delete votes on 0-score answers...
 
Heh
 
3:28 PM
@desertnaut I voted to close the question as needs details, when the code was posted as a screenshot. Once the code was added as text, it was clear, so I retracted my close vote. It then turned out to be a duplicate, but since I can't vote to close after retracting, I couldn't hammer it.
 
@TylerH Is that POB because of the usage of "best"?
 
stackoverflow.com/a/70247880/4826457 is it just me or does this look exactly the same as the file in the question?
 
@cigien Not just the word by itself, but because OP was asking for the best way to do something
I see you've changed the question they are asking, so it's now no longer necessarily opinion-based
 
@SurajRao Yup. Verified with a diff.
 
3:38 PM
@Calculuswhiz thanks
 
@TylerH I don't think I changed the intent of the OP's question. People colloquially use "best", but they don't actually mean "optimal", or anything like that. I tend to just edit that out of questions that are otherwise "how-to" questions.
 
@cigien If they don't mean 'best' they need to learn not to use the word
We explicitly disallow opinion-based questions on Stack Overflow and "best" is inherently opinion-based
"How do I do X" is not the same question as "What's the best way to do X"
 
@TylerH Indeed. I mention that in the edit messages, though I don't know if OPs ever notice.
 
3:48 PM
Welp, I was going to ask if the spam campaign stopped, but it looks like it has not.
 
Yeah, definitely the most persistent spam campaign in SO history
it's going on 2 weeks now
 
3:59 PM
The support number spam does seem to quiet down during certain times of the day. I don't really come here as much on the weekends. Does it also slow down then?
 
things always tend to slow down when i leave
 
I just added some tag filters to my FQ review and came upon this audit, where one of my tags (C++) had been deviously added to the question by the audit system. Has that audit system recently become more treacherous, or did I just not notice this before? I was actually going to do something about that C++ tag (edit it out or comment about it), which likely would have failed the audit - good job I looked at it outside the queue!
 
Yeah, the First Questions has been doing that for a while now. I remember watching for the [api] tag and sometimes I would get an audit question like that.
 
err, what? it added a tag for a "looks ok" audit?
how does that make any sense at all
 
4:09 PM
@AdrianMole It's always done that in queues where it's picking "known good" posts to throw at you
I mean, if you missed that it was a Java question under your C++ tag filter... same net result, right?
 
@AdrianMole At least in other queues, audits adding in the tags which you are filtering on has been happening for years. If it didn't, then not having such a tag would be a clear indicator it's an audit.
 
Thanks - just found a Meta post about it. I don't often use tag filters, so hadn't come across this before. Seems dangerous, but I need to read the Meta post...
@Machavity Problem is, as I stated, what if I just try to edit out the inappropriate tag (as would be expected to do, were it not an audit)?
 
@AdrianMole I'm not sure. You should totally get banned try to do that. For science
The revamp system does things differently. Not sure if the old audit fails are valid
 
For first question audits, edit=pass I'm pretty sure...
And I think edit=fail only in LQA?
 
4:18 PM
@Calculuswhiz Actually, I think I'm safe from these dastardly attacks ... because I would use the "rapid tag edit", which isn't available from inside the review, so I would have to open it up in its natural state, when I would rumble the nasssty, tricksy, fat audit.
 
@AdrianMole Is that a 10k thing?
20k thing?
 
It's certainly rep-based - I believe it's at 10k.
 
@cigien For what is worth, what you did is what we do for resource request: modify the question so it no longer is a straight up resource request
 
@Calculuswhiz It's a 10K thinkg
 
It's interesting to see the evolution of the spam thing because it's now clear the content was just a filler to test the formatting; now it's being used for other things which have much more direct financial payoff to attackers (paypal, binance)
 
4:40 PM
 
 
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6:00 PM
Was there a change in how comment flags work? Or did I pass some rep threshold without knowing it? I only have 3,982 rep, but I just flagged a comment as "No longer needed" and it was immediately removed. Or was a mod just so fast it seemed like an automatic remove?
 
user17242583
Probably someone else flagged it before you as well. That happens to me sometimes as well.
 
@NotTheDr01ds There are some special words that can cause this behavior (ie. 1 flag being enough to delete the comment immediately)
 
Maybe, but it was a comment directed to me that the OP had updated their answer based on my previous comment.
 
user17242583
How do you have the link to the right post at the right time, every time, @Jeanne? :)
 
6:02 PM
@JeanneDark Thanks - Definitely not an obscenity, at least ;-)
But anyway, not a change -- Thanks!
 
@NotTheDr01ds Not only obscenities trigger it, also something like "accept" or "+1" or "Thanks" IIRC.
 
@JeanneDark Yes, that could be it. Just never had it happen before, even with similar combinations, but perhaps just hit the right keywords this time, as you said.
 
Not the case for "downvote", unfortunately. Wish we had this for example.
 
6:19 PM
 
6:43 PM
@JeanneDark yep, my favorite is the "starts with +1 and less than ~100 characters with no code or links"
 
7:37 PM
?
 
user17242583
7:47 PM
Probably the OP there is actually trying to get the job, and not trying to recruit devs, but he pasted the text for the problem including that which isn't part of the problem at all...
 
^Yes quite likely. Doesn't look like spam any more since the edit.
 
user17242583
But still, the question very low quality, SO is not a code-writing service, etc., and also, using someone else's code as your own in a job interview is, besides plagiarism (minor), gonna give you trouble if you get the job (major).
 
8:08 PM
 
8:50 PM
Is this question falsely flagged as duplicate?
 
@Turing85 the dupe is incorrect but I can search for another one
 
@Turing85 its better it would be nicer if it had strings.. for sure there is one out there, @SotiriosDelimanolis I will search for better but maybe change dupe
@SotiriosDelimanolis new dupe on this stackoverflow.com/questions/70251705/…
Hmm its javascript sorry :), I will continue to search
 
9:06 PM
same diff
 
Well, Javascript is just Java with more stuff added on, right?
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I only checked question :), when checking answer it seemed strange...
 
@Machavity Pretty sure that's correct. It is where all the garbage collects ;)
 
oh, let me reread this
 
user17242583
9:23 PM
Is it ok to cv-pls a question where I've just given a small comment, e.g. stackoverflow.com/q/70250593/17242583? Especially since the comment was 2h ago anyway.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis There are so many darn questions on combining arrays so it's hard to find also this but maybe slightly different stackoverflow.com/questions/53780951/…
 
@user17242583 Yes, a comment does not count as you being "involved"
 
@user17242583 Comments are not considered involvement as far as CVs go
 
Anyway the cartesian product of two arrays will do it :)
 
@user17242583 Why in a few hours? stackoverflow.com/questions/70250593/…
 
user17242583
9:27 PM
@cigien - my votes are all used up :P
 
user17242583
Now, what happened to my comment?
 
Oh, I see. Don't bother leaving comments like that. Just upvote when you can.
 
user17242583
Ok @cigien, I'll remember that. :)
 
@user17242583 some darn SO user probably flagged it as no longer needed :)
 
user17242583
@Petter Probably. I need to remember not to send extraneous comments like that. I guess they're frowned upon
 
9:33 PM
 
@user17242583 I missed it but I guess it was "no longer needed",
All comments that are not related to clarification etc are fair targets for that flag
 
 
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11:23 PM
@mickmackusa ...actually my earlier Unclear close request on stackoverflow.com/q/41473066/2943403 is probably better closed with this dupe based on the OP's self-answer.
 
11:38 PM
 
@bad_coder yeah but, no but : this seems to me lacking a MRE and just asking for "gimme the codez"
 
You know what - reviewing is hard work.But, current RL issues notwithstanding, I hope I'm allowed to continue ...
 
WTH is this? i.stack.imgur.com/py8DT.png Have ads always been there and I just encountered lagtime in my ad blockers applying to the page? Or is this a new insertion?
 
11:57 PM
@TylerH Looks dodgy. Can we have a link to the post, itself?
... and what is your rep. level on SF?
 

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