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12:02 AM
@AdrianMole I can handle one sheep a day. I can't handle multiple. So you see... my statement was a preventive measure :)
 
@AdrianMole The past tense of "sheep", on the other hand, is "shept".
 
But then there's: The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick.
 
@Dharman Google suggests it's just something like "why the dislike?". It's almost certainly an edited-in rant about downvotes.
 
@Dharman Google Translate does well, at least enough to figure out the last line isn't needed.
 
12:04 AM
Is a comment auto-deleted when it receives enough flags?
 
@Turing85 Yes. For some comments (like "thanks") the limit is 1. For the rest it's 3-5-ish.
I'm sure somebody knows the number off the top of their head. Or can find a meta Q about it faster than me.
 
3 + number of votes/3
 
@VLAZ the pure information is already enough. I just wondered why some comments disappear immediately when I flag them
 
Certain comments are automatically deleted with a single flag if they meet certain requirements (i.e., match certain regexes). Otherwise, it takes 3 flags to delete a comment, and that scales up with the vote count (one additional flag is required for every 3 votes, rounded up).
 
@Turing85 You didn't just assume you won the mod elections without noticing :P
 
12:06 AM
Assuming a comment flag doesn't insta-delete, all comment flags are reviewed by moderators, who can delete a comment with a single click, if they deem it has no value whatsoever.
 
Can mods delete comments on Articles™?
 
Hahahaha, no.
 
Can anyone?
 
Wait, I lied. Yes, we can.
What we can't delete is the article itself. Only staff can do that.
 
Wow! Changes?
 
12:11 AM
No, it's always been that way. I just forgot.
 
You should write an Article™ about memory.
 
One of the first things I did when Collectives shipped is try applying every mod tool to the articles.
 
I can believe that.
 
Can this meme be salvaged? stackoverflow.com/a/70173181/1839439
 
I don't even get it, but I imagine it could be easily edited into English.
Oh, but there's almost certainly no reason to do so.
 
12:17 AM
@Dharman Not really. The answer is completely wrong even if we leave aside the memes.
 
It only checks if a variable exists but the value is undefined. Trying to read a variable that does not exist, would throw an error, and reading a variable is required if you have a function call like fn(myVar) - the poster tries to claim that once the call is made the value would be undefined, however in reality the call never happens.
 
@Dharman Who upvoted this?
 
Somebody who speaks Spanish? Or someone who has auto-translate enabled in their browser?
 
@Turing85 I still can't figure it out... :-(
 
12:24 AM
Hahaha @CodyGray go brrr :)
 
@HenryEcker Oh! Yes, that does help. "'Brr' is often used to indicate the sound of a machine working." That is the piece I was missing. Because... that is very wrong.
@VLAZ "The meme is about taking a shortcut that is ultimately damaging." Maybe that's the whole point, and one cannot simply leave aside the memes?
 
In that case, it's a useless answer.
 
Everyone knows that the sound of a machine working is gloppita gloppita
 
@AdrianMole only the glopitta-glopitta machine makes the glopitta-glopitta
 
12:33 AM
@AdrianMole some go "Ping!"
 
@VLAZ and sometimes da ting goes skraa
 
Smokey thinks degrees are emoji. Not sure if that's looking down on or up to degrees.
 
everyone knows that rad is superior
 
1:49 AM
Is there a new version of the Magic™Editor?
 
@Joundill Not for quite a while. What issue are you having with it?
 
I haven't been editing too much over the past wee while, and just noticed I've got an old version that's a bit buggy with all the changes to SO's editor
 
The two big ones I'm remembering as issues are dark mode and code fences. There are probably others.
 
@Makyen it's giving me a weird format in the preview area. Yeah, mainly with code fences.
 
@Makyen oh glorious dark mode. Thanks again!
 
1:53 AM
@Turing85 You might have misunderstood. I was only mentioning that those are current issues for Magic™Editor, not that they are resolved. :(
 
I can sort of work around it, I have to click the magic wand twice for it to automatically apply the changes, then fix whatever inappropriate magic edits it made, and then click "show preview" to refresh SO's MD renderer
 
@Makyen oh? Hmm.. didn't you add a dark mode to one of the tools recently? Was it the cv-pls extension?
 
@Turing85 Yes, it was the Request Generator.
 
ah okay )=
=)
 
2:14 AM
@Turing85 I sure hope so ;)
 
2:28 AM
I'm skipping this in the triage, but are questions about code efficiency on-topic for SO? stackoverflow.com/questions/70197977/…
Calculating big O time is easy enough, but it feels like questions about speeding things up inevitably go down the hole of deep wizardry
 
@Joundill I think it needs debugging details. What exact kind of input is the code being used on? To speed it up, one probably needs to know that. I'm not sure enough to vote close it.
 
@IanCampbell Yeah, that's sort of where I'm at too. I don't have enough knowledge of what's going on to give it a cv, but the question certainly looks like it'll end up getting a bad answer
 
2:42 AM
Does anyone see how someone could reasonably pass this audit? (I didn't fall for it, but still.)
 
@IanCampbell This is why I love audits.
@IanCampbell you're >10k, right? What happened with the initial answer? It looks like it shouldn't have been deleted, just downvoted into oblivion.
 
I'm not quite sure what the final disposition was. Here's a screenshot. Seems like it should have had a more negative score if it was deleted by spam flags.
It seems possible that there are other now-deleted answers that gave the hint back then, but I couldn't find them using Metasmoke. Without that context, on it's own, the post seems OK, unless I'm missing something.
 
2:58 AM
Yeah, that seems really weird. Maybe it got marked as spam for recommending a library which wasn't really too closely connected to the question?
 
@Joundill The user is the author of the library, and has a history of linking to it without disclosure.
@IanCampbell Hmm, I though when a post is used as an audit, it shows up in the timeline? I'm not seeing that here.
 
I finally figured that out thanks to some google cache results. But I don't see how an ordinary reviewer should be expected to be as good of a detective.
Someone has to fail or pass the audit before it shows up in the timeline, I think. I skipped it.
 
It's a very poor audit, I agree. You can go ahead and flag it. Mods have a way of removing it as an audit IIRC.
 
OK thanks, will do.
 
3:19 AM
@cigien Maybe it can't show up in the timeline since the post is "locked"?
 
@cigien It should be in the timeline for >10k users. It is in the timeline for me, but it should be for all who can see the timeline.
 
@cigien Moderators have no direct way of removing a post as an audit candidate. For spam-deleted posts, the only real way we have is to undelete, unlock, and re-delete using an R/A flag.
@HenryEcker Hmm... interesting.
 
Yeah, I'm seeing the image Henry linked to as well.
 
I was really under the impression that >10k users could see audit entries in the timeline.
 
3:26 AM
We usually can
 
We can though.
 
This post, for example, I can see 4 audits
 
@Makyen Ah, I see. So if the post was not red-flag deleted, there's no point in flagging a bad audit?
Hmm, maybe this? It sounds like what Ian was mentioning as well.
 
@HenryEcker I'm <10k and I can see the audits there too.
 
3:57 AM
@Joundill Hm. It seems that those audits in the timeline can be seen even fully logged out.
 
@cigien We can do what most other users can do: close, upvote/downvote, etc. Those all send signals to the algorithm which is used to select audits.
@Joundill Yes, the only reason I mentioned >10k was that the post is deleted, which means you need >10k to see the post and/or the timeline.
 
 
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6:27 AM
 
7:05 AM
@VLAZ the rule is slightly inexact, it was originally set up to catch the Unicode emoji category based on anecdotal evicence but it quickly turned out that many of the symbols used by the phone scam spammer are not technically emoji
 
Hi. Is there any way to see who downvoted on my question?

Just received a uncommented downvote on my question from 2014:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26975093/correct-use-of-icons-when-displaying-like-comment-count-on-my-webpage
 
@FabianS. No, voting is anonymous. Not even mods can see it.
 
Hm okay., thanks.
 
@cigien Only once the review is actually done. No one has actually done that review. cc @Makyen
 
@FabianS. All downvotes are uncommented. No one is expected to leave comments when they vote, whether up or down. And, as Jeanne said, voting is anonymous; no one can see this information. That is by design. By reading the tooltip for the downvote button, you can see common reasons for downvoting.
 
7:21 AM
 
Thank you for all the input!
 
7:52 AM
@Turing85 OP has added the error message; is the request still valid?
 
8:32 AM
@FabianS. I hope we didn't overwhelm you with all the info.
 
Is that possible?
 
Certainly.
I try to be friendly / welcoming
 
I don't have to try. I am just naturally that way. :-)
 
It is near the end of the year. My performance as RO is going to be evaluated again.
 
Oh yeah, when do we do RO evals?
 
8:37 AM
My question flopped with few views 20 hours ago. Do I change the title or ask a different question?
 
@CodyGray you'll get an invite ....
 
@Zano You would not ask a different question. Users are not allowed to repost the same question multiple times. Editing (improving the title and/or adding more information to the body) would be a good idea. Also check that you've tagged it correctly.
 
@Zano 20 hours is not yet 6 to 8 weeks. Don't rush stuff here.
 
9:32 AM
Is the "i believe it IS possible..." enough to make this a(partial) answer?
 
No. "I believe it is possible" is even more useless than "yes".
 
thank you
 
@rene all good, im soaking information like spongebob himself. I always try to improve so i ask a lot. Totally not too much input, understanding why things go specific ways is important to understand how SO works and keep it working (which is what im trying to help with) so im thankful for every piece of input!
 
10:31 AM
@RyanM Thanks. Gah... Clearly, I wasn't really paying attention to what I was seeing on the screen. :;
 
 
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11:56 AM
Should duplicate answers still be custom flagged (What to do with late answers which retread the same ground as previous answers (but not as thoroughly)?) or rather del-pls request in here?
 
12:31 PM
@Adriaan It has become one of the more common forms of spam, together with the spellcasters
 
12:55 PM
Should this be locked or deleted? stackoverflow.com/questions/310735/…
I am not sure why I voted as a duplicate so don't ask me
 
@Dharman There are like thousands pages with better information, just bury it.
The top answer isn't even maintained anymore github.com/icsharpcode/SharpDevelop
 
1:11 PM
@Makyen can you delete this message of mine? OP Clarified the question, I retracted my vote.
 
@cigien good to see that you are alive and well :)
 
@Dharman Downvote?
 
definitely
 
@SurajRao I'd say yes
At least not about programming as defined in the help center. Rather about how to teach etc.
 
What about this new answer that was quickly upvoted ()? The same command is mentioned in the following older answers: 1, 2, 3 (late, rel. high score, code-only), 4 (accepted and highest scoring answer).
 
@tripleee about 7 min apart. Network thing?
 
@JeanneDark sockpuppetry
 
@SurajRao sry, probably just lack of attention; it's extremely hard to see from these links whether the same answer has already been nominated
 
but I don't know if there's enough evidence to flag
 
I'm also not sure, but considered sockpuppetry a possibility
 
Answer is a duplicate of the accepted answer at any rate
 
1:41 PM
@Machavity The advise to custom flag in case of duplicate answers is still valid?
 
Yes, and you can also mention that the upvote is suspicious
 
@JeanneDark Yes. If a later answer proffers the same exact solution you can mod flag those
 
thanks
 
I also looked into the votes thing. No need to flag here
Not that you can't flag those (it looked suspicious). Just that this one has already been looked at
 
 
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3:01 PM
It would appear that it's undisclosed affiliation.
 
3:39 PM
Are tag wiki edits placed in a separate queue from normal suggested edits?
 
No, same queue, but need more rep to review.
 
4:00 PM
Out of CVs o/
 
Thanks for spending them today. Do come back tomorrow for more ...
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@rene lol get a refill @0UTC
 
4:53 PM
Cleaned up move messages to keep the front page clean (spam wave)
 
 
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6:12 PM
Is it possible that this answer was actually an answer to the question? It looks like a menu location.
 
7:02 PM
@Dharman Does that warrant a historical lock? It has quite a high view count, and score.
 
I don't think so. It's information that quickly becomes obsolete
 
Fair enough.
 
a decent number of the frameworks listed on that question haven't been updated in 5-7 years
a few have
many of the answers are repeats
 
@DalijaPrasnikar "off-topic" is not actually sufficient as a cv-pls request (Unless you have <3k). In this case, it could be "seeking recs".
 
@Dharman agreed with Braiam: the timeline backs it up and the low view count makes it unlikely that the vote came from elsewhere
 
10:54 PM
Does anyone understand what this answer is saying?
 
No idea. I think it says that all posts there are unclear and the question should be closed
 
@HenryEcker it's a link only answer to a slightly differen tproblem
 
@TylerH I can see that. I wasn't sure which parts of that were problem statements and which parts were answers. It being an answer for a different problem makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the assist
 
Ohh there was a link
I did not see that <facepalm>
 
11:04 PM
Spam apparently
Tricky without the username or other context on that one though
 
Lesson for spammers: if you want to trick Dharman, hide the spam link under "read more"
 
In fairness, the link source also seems fairly reasonable.
 
the parent Q can be closed tho
 
11:19 PM
182 still pending in LQA
A little bit high
 

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