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11:05 PM
I'd like an opinion on something. From time to time I come across questions like this one. OP asks about a specific problem in the code, and the question is clearly answerable. But the code - over all - is a buggy mess and fixing the specific problem won't make it work. I try to avoid answering those question since an answer would not provide future benefit. How do you handle these type of questions?
 
eh, well, if you're feeling overly generous, you could ignore the problems and just answer the question as if it's a how do i x question
 
@Vickel It's the userscript
 
@Turing85 "Downvote and move on" ... but that's one moderator I'd rather not enter into a dispute with.
 
@Turing85 Probably downvote it
 
ah, ok, was just wondering about the reflag as it was not flagged before
 
11:08 PM
@AdrianMole oh don't get me wrong. I highly disagree with Bohemian on this one. But that's beside the point on this question. I am glad it's closed.
 
because, ultimately, doing that will help the op, in that it solves their problem, and it will provide a solution to anyone else who finds it due to the great title
 
@Turing85 I typically do it like you did - Comment. Or sometimes, if feeling generous, answer and mention the other problems.
 
@Turing85 Depending on the asker, I sometimes answer the specific bit of the question and ignore the rest of the code. The only real trouble I face is when the rest of the asker's code doesn't work and they start asking about that in the comments, then it's time to tell them to ask a new question and move on
 
if the title was bad... then... i'd dv and move on
 
Curation is a difficult - and often thankless - task. But do it right. Or else, we all end up spending otherwise "good curation time" defending our earlier 'dodgy' actions.
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11:12 PM
@AdrianMole one could say it is undecidable....
 
@Turing85 Jury's out on that one. xD
 
@AdrianMole I AM THE JURY!
@Turing85 well okay, me - 85 is the jury...
 
11:26 PM
@Turing85 I am unsure on this one (did not vote on it). Would like to have some opinions.
 
@Dharman No, for what it's worth, the title word blacklists apply to mods, too. But we're usually clever enough to rephrase slightly and thus get around a naive filter. :-)
 
Just add an emoji?
 
@AdrianMole The system does, in fact, accept "How does HTTP_USER_AGENT work? πŸ€”πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…"
 
hehe
 
The minimum number of tomatoes required appears to be four.
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11:32 PM
So I actually tried calling the number a few times from a virtual phone to see if I could waste some of their time. It just rings once then busy. Too bad. I was really hoping to "Talk to a person."
 
What is the collective noun for tomatoes?
 
A patch!
 
@AdrianMole tomatwos?
 
@Calculuswhiz Yes, it means that the reason SD re-scanned the post is because of a recent edit.
 
Ketchup?
 
11:33 PM
I want a Tomato Collectiveβ„’
... and, for the right price, Teresa says I can have one! ;-)
 
Will you call it Patch notes?
Is cigien okay?
 
@NotTheDr01ds I've wondered the exact same thing, and I completely agree with your concerns here. While it's true that ROs should be able to monitor for targeting of users, I would personally prefer that that be accomplished with a script run on the RO side, not for user names to be prominently noted in reports in this room. Certainly something to be improved in the future, in my opinion. Thanks for the question!
@Turing85 Why do you ask?
 
@Turing85 What makes you think otherwise? They're often away doing things in real life - last seen ~6 hours ago.
 
@CodyGray Haven't seen him for a while. It's... unusual.
@AdrianMole huh? Where did you read that?
 
11:40 PM
I have a script that gives me di'mond powers.
 
@NotTheDr01ds That's not a "rule". At best, it's a suggestion of how to ask a good question.
@AdrianMole Me too!
 
@CodyGray That's completely fair - Not a "rule".
 
@CodyGray you ARE Adrian's script :)
 
{Waffles}
 
{ Pancakes }
 
11:43 PM
@Dharman What does "OOF" mean, and why did you think any of those needed re-flagging? They all had pending NAA flags on them, and I even checked (as I typically do) that everyone who reviewed them reviewed them correctly. Everyone did, in all three cases that you linked. So it does not seem like there was any need to post those in here for re-flagging or expedited review. What am I missing?
 
@AdrianMole ( Ν‘° ΝœΚ– Ν‘°)
 
Ah, timing. Same question.
 
Where is the real Dharman?
 
@NotTheDr01ds Spot the imposter :-)
 
@CodyGray I can't see other people's flags. OOF means Out Of Flags
 
11:44 PM
Oh....
 
I would forget about them till tomorrow
 
I am shockingly low on flags. 16 post flags left.
That basically never happens to me.
 
I've been 'struggling' to get even 50 flags per day.
 
@RyanM Dharman just showed you how to get more flags :)
 
... for sure, Bhargav's departure has left a gap, but Zoe is easily compensating when it comes to Natty posts.
 
11:47 PM
Normally, I'd be "lucky" to raise a dozen or two flags in a day.
But today had my flags directed at two spam waves.
 
(admittedly, a large chunk of them were directed at non-spam NAAs linking the spammed site...but that's part of the penalty for spamming, all the link-only answers people gave you go away ;-)
 
getting 24 flags is quite easy. You can get that many just by searching "check this link"
 
@Dharman Does that count as NAA? I always categorized them as low quality and commented on them accordingly.
 
How can I convert this java hashing code to js? is starting to shape up. Is it worthy of reopening now?
 
11:50 PM
It depends on whether they are actually NAA. You have to read the answer to see.
 
On answers, VLQ and NAA are almost the same.
Cody told me that.
 
@Turing85 Not all of them, but stuff like this one definitely stackoverflow.com/a/70204997/1839439
 
VLQ is not the same thing as "low quality". VLQ means "needs to be immediately deleted", whereas low quality means "I think this sucks and/or is unhelpful, and I am therefore going to downvote it".
 
Doesn't NAA mean "needs to be immediately deleted"?
 
@Dharman Funnily enough, I would this one pass. It answers the question in the shortest way possible. "Can I...?" - "Yes|No|Unknown".
 
11:52 PM
@AdrianMole Yes. That's why VLQ and NAA are the same. But VLQ is not the same as "low quality": note the "very".
@Turing85 Meh, maybe in a very pedantic sense, but not in a useful way.
 
@CodyGray Okay. What then IS VLQ? The description of "should be deleted immediately" suggests danger.
 
^ that
 
No one ever wants to know if a problem can be solved. They want to know how.
@Turing85 Danger? Nah, not really danger.
 
I very noticed your veritable correction of my vernacular.
 
@Turing85 link-only, non-english, or completely incomprehensible
 
11:53 PM
"This doesn't represent the best of SO and could stand to be improved" is different from "this is total garbage that is stinking up the place".
@AdrianMole Verily.
 
Dang - I missed that one.
 
Verifiably.
 
This vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose.
 
@Turing85 Ok, better example then stackoverflow.com/a/70193982/1839439
 
So - moving on - then "This doesn't represent the best of SO and could stand to be improved" would warrant a "Share feedback" review vote? ;-P
 
11:56 PM
I guess, yeah. Preferably a downvote.
 
@AdrianMole Yeah, maybe, but wouldn't it be better to just downvote instead. I really think these bot comments are getting annoying and they don't have the desired effect. I don't think I have seen anyone react to them positively
 
@CodyGray Y'know - because of you, I'm gonna have to rethink my whole review-process-attitude. I'm not saying I'm doing it wrong, maybe just not quite right.
@Dharman ^ and you, too.
 
You know what else is fun? Reviewing answers where you have subject-matter expertise, then you don't have to limit yourself to commenting and downvoting. You can actually improve the answer directly.
 
now we're cycling back to the undedicability-thing again... =)
 
πŸ‘
 
11:59 PM
not the sheeps again
 
There is no "sheeps" - just "sheep" (which is the plural form of "sheep").
 
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