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12:02 AM
@karel @Braiam If you don't mind having a look, my suggested edit might benefit from some SME eyeballs askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/1187758
 
@Makyen Yeah, but I mean this is the link to SO, not the russian one. It should not redirect
 
12:18 AM
@Dharman Yes, I understood that. Yes, I can open it on SO. That link does not redirect for me.
 
The link is redirecting for you, @Dharman? The slug in the URL should keep it from redirecting. Also, logged-in users shouldn't see redirects anyway.
 
12:36 AM
Why am I the only one that gets redirected?
 
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
 
1:07 AM
Heh
 
@CodyGray Logged in users would still be redirected
 
So it's only mods that are not redirected?
I remembered that logged-in users weren't redirected from dupes.
 
1:24 AM
Migration works for all users meta.stackexchange.com/a/73603/213575 unanswered dupes only for anonymous meta.stackexchange.com/q/125220/213575
 
1:42 AM
@TylerH a question you closed is being discussed on Meta
 
2:15 AM
Hello, sorry if it's not the best place to ask, but is any of you aware if it's the normal procedure to delete all the posts of an account that got nuked? It just happened to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70162514/ and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70144280/ (note that the accounts were different, but certainly the persons behind were the same, which I guess is the reason for nuking the accounts), where both questions were relatively "ok" and received upvoted answers.
I did raise a flag for mods, but in my recent experience these take months to be handled and if one of you could
 
@Kaiido Yes, only those that are answered and are positive score survive
I'm not clear on the details.
 
@Braiam yes I'm aware of this, but here both had positively scored answers and were apparently manually deleted by a mod.
 
Eh, then it's likely that something shady is afoot, since mods do not need to remove posts from deleted accounts
 
@Braiam Ok that's what I thought, I'll let the flag pending then since from here I can't see anything shady in the posts themselves. Thanks.
 
 
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5:45 AM
Is this NAA?
 
I think so, yes. There's not really an answer there.
 
@RyanM Seems it may be plagiarized, although the original source appears to have gone offline.
@Kaiido Yes, that would have been a manual deletion. If it shows up as deleted by the mod, rather than Community, that's a manual deletion. No, it's not "standard procedure" for a mod to delete all posts when an account is deleted. Only the posts scored <= 0 or <= -1 (depending on how the user account is deleted) are automatically deleted by Community.
The idea is that, when removing a user, none of their useful contributions should be deleted, just anonymized, but there's no reason to keep around their garbage. In this case, the mod who handled deleting the user account probably just looked around and made a judgment call that the positively-scored posts had nothing of significant value, and thus deleted them anyway.
The flag you raised, in an attempt to have the mod (or another mod) review the deletion and consider undeleting is perfectly appropriate. I am personally disinclined to handle that flag, because I lack the subject-matter expertise to justify overriding another mod's decision.
 
@CodyGray ok, let's hope Ry- will have the time to handle the flag and respond to my concerns then. Both questions and their +3 scored answers (-1 because of deleted user) seem perfectly valid and useful to my "expert(?)" eyes and it still looks like an overlooking case to me, but they may have their reasons.
Thanks anyway for following up on this, I'll keep patient.
 
6:01 AM
@CodyGray I believe you're thinking of a different answer from that user, which is indeed plagiarized (as are 17 of the 18 answers other than those two). I think this one is NAA, though.
 
6:24 AM
@RyanM Argh. I don't know how I screwed that up.
 
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8:05 AM
@DaImTo It's worth flagging to mod to ask if the accounts can be merged too
 
@halfer I flagged mods about it yesterday and its still there and i got a flag rejected.
 
@DaImTo Ah, fair enough
Does the replacement question now have enough context? It closed just in the last minute, despite having code.
 
@halfer what i said. Would just like to get one of them closed.
 
@DaImTo Both of them will close (the good one already has, and the bad one almost certainly will)
@TylerH - congrats on your 20k! 🏆
 
@halfer Not really sure about the code tbh im not a rails person. Im going to offer a reopen on the one with code. Give them a chance.
 
8:10 AM
@DaImTo Thank you! Shall I add a reopen-pls here? I also voted to reopen.
 
be my guest I dont have the mod i have to manually type the tags
 
Regarding the flags, I guess you can't request an account merge for other users. They have to do it themselves. It would be a reason to flag if you suspected, for example, that someone created a new account to circumvent a post ban.
 
 
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11:27 AM
> isnt it extremely rude to call someones code extremely inefficient
How does one politely describe inefficient code I wonder?
 
@SurajRao if you want to get technical you might want to quantify exactly how inefficient it is and leave the conclusions to the reader, but in a comment that's of course often not possible
 
@SurajRao That would depend upon if you asked them to code review or something. Its not rude to tell someone about flaws in their design its helping IMO.
 
@DaImTo FYI the "Not reproducible" standard closure reason would've fit perfectly. You can then use a comment to add that info for the asker, if warranted
 
@Adriaan Probably.
 
stackoverflow.com/a/70165620/4826457 For context. I dont see anything rude. (Queen Report). Flagged as NLN.
 
11:31 AM
@SurajRao I would venture to suggest that your code is not as thoroughly efficient as it could be.
 
11:43 AM
@SurajRao in this instance i think it could have been written a little nicer.
 
 
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12:56 PM
Is this safe to run? (taskkill /f /im explorer.exe)
 
define safe
 
@Tomerikoo well, given it's windows, I'd preemptively defenestrate it.
 
I don't know it gives the feeling of ruining something. explorer.exe sounds like something important...
 
It just closes the explorer process from the looks of it
However, I would close this question as it is unclear what they expected to happen and looks more like trolling
@Tomerikoo Are you primarily a Linux user?
 
1:04 PM
you probably need to ctrl + alt +del , open task manager and rerun explorer.exe... if I remember correctly
 
that or use windows+r to get the run box and the type explorer.exe in there and press run
 
or restart your pc
 
@Dharman Yep this is what I felt as well... In a dev manner yeah, mostly Linux
 
I had to restart explorer time to time in win 10 esp when the filebrowser refused to set the font color properly in dark mode...
 
explorer.exe is the GUI process of Windows
I remember doing this often on Win 7
 
1:07 PM
This is what I thought and why the post seemed fishy. Not sure what's the benefit of the asker of people running this though...
 
@Tomerikoo Yes. It restarts the Windows "shell", which is completely safe and does not even result in any loss of work. Any file-browser windows that you have open should be automatically re-opened. Restarting the shell is common when debugging shell extensions or other types of customizations.
 
@AmitJoshi I went No MCVE on that one, given we need to see what tags they used and what program they're reading the image with (and thus what tags that requires)
 
1:39 PM
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Q: Auto [generated] do not edit. All changes will be undone

Alan Bagelgenerated has 203 questions, and some tag info: Do not use. This tag has been used for generated code, generated keys, generated-anything. Too broad. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? As the tag info says, it has been used for gene...

 
2:10 PM
@Tomerikoo it is safe to run; the explorer.exe process will automatically restart instantly
oh I see Cody already responded
@halfer thanks; lost it briefly and got it back again overnight while sleeping :-P
 
Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you over the spam. With... tomatoes?
 
@RyanM Thanks, looks like Meta has already handled that one...
@CodyGray I see that effort is still going. Still no IP ban?
 
Alas, not that simple.
 
bummer it's not coming from a narrow range
 
Somebody should just call one of the phone numbers, find out who they are and then send round the men in big, darkened Cadillacs.
 
2:27 PM
@AdrianMole Metasmoke is now practically the yellow pages of spammers... Have at it :p
 
3:15 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Feels like there must be a duplicate for that... It is not really broad and basic question is not a close reason...
@Tomerikoo I found one and posted it in the question so that can be used by one more user
 
Did the parrot eat all the tomatoes?
 
@Tomerikoo I tried to search first but couldn't get it.
 
4:30 PM
This can be an answer, right? stackoverflow.com/a/70167689/1839439
 
@Dharman Yes. Might not be the greatest answer but it is one.
Note: I can't say how useful it is. It does ask for more information but it also suggests some stuff and has a link for further information.
> By accident the device was decrypted which in essence formats the drive.
This sounds like the encryption is like hotel California. Data goes in but never goes out.
 
clear the data along with the pesky encryption
 
People seem pretty keen for us to phone "microsoft" today.
 
i've started getting texts now similar to this spam
 
I haven't phoned Microsoft since forever. Maybe it's time to see how they are doing.
Are...all links now underlined on the site?
Title, tag, even buttons under the post (close, follow, etc)
 
define undefined
 
@VLAZ Mine aren't
Try disabling all user scripts?
 
5:17 PM
oh
i can't read, carry on
 
What gets me is how often they say "talk to a person" in the title. Like, who wants to talk to people? That sounds unpleasant.
 
@KevinB undefined: noun, meaning not defined ;)
 
Removed the scripts and did a hard refresh: it still looks like this
 
probably a bad stacks update, that we'll all see in the next 10 min once caching
 
^ that.
@VLAZ I notice your dark them does not look the same as mine. Are you using the SO native dark theme or do you have something that applies a dark mode filter to the site? If the latter, that could be doing the underlining.
 
5:23 PM
@NathanOliver It's the high contrast dark mode.
 
I just found in the CSS that it does have a rule for body.theme-highcontrast a to add underlines
I can't see them when I'm logged out.
 
interesting. Switch to using the native SO dark mode?
 
Yep, switching to non-high contrast and it removes the underlines
High contrast light mode also has all the underlines.
 
@KevinB √-1/0
 
I don't understand how SO just lets this spam go on. Shog would have stepped in and used a regex to stop posts containing the phone number at least.
4
 
Is there a reason emoji aren't banned from titles?
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👏there's👏nothing👏wrong👏with👏emoji👏per👏se👏
IIRC it was suggested, and mehed hard
 
@Calculuswhiz There are valid uses like "Can't display 👏 on windows console but can on linux console"
 
5:53 PM
@NathanOliver I always wonder why not restrict a new user to be able to post, until they got the "informed" badge? That should keep the bots out
 
@Vickel How hard is it to get the badge?
It would take the bot 2-5 more seconds to post. I'm not sure that's really "keeping them out".
 
@VLAZ I'm not sure, how hard it would be for a bot, since the page needs to be scrolled down...
 
I think there's some element of human-assisted botting going on, right? These accounts are getting created somehow. Isn't there a captcha involved somewhere along the way?
 
@Calculuswhiz Well, depends what you mean by human-assisted
This seems fairly automated at this point
but a human certainly has fine-tuned it
I'm sure the SO ops team is working multiple avenues to put a stop to it
 
@Calculuswhiz ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've not created an account for 7 years. I can't remember how you create one. In either case, CAPTCHAs can be outsourced.
 
5:58 PM
 
@VLAZ Yeah, that's what I mean by human-assisted, I guess.
 
It's the usual cat-and-mouse effort
 
@Calculuswhiz It's been suggested. The argument against doing so is that it blocks legitimate questions. However, the accepted answer (as well as the top scoring answer on the target) claim that it's not actually a problem anyway as such questions are quite rare, and that argument perhaps doesn't hold up anymore.
 
@cigien When they said that the occurrences were "rare," was that accounting for such spam, or was that just not a problem then?
 
@Calculuswhiz this format appears to be a novel one but emojis have been used in spam before
it's a somewhat common occurrence to draw attention
 
6:08 PM
@Calculuswhiz This particular spam wave is new. However, there may well have been such spam (i.e. with emojis in titles) in the past, and the users who posted those answers simply never saw them.
 
but as you can see from some of the titles, the format is different each time
with different characters/symbols interspersed at different locations in the number and title strings
You'd need a non-greedy regex to look at the whole title for the right sequence of letters in the right order, regardless of any (number of) characters in-between
Not that it's risen to the level of a real problem yet (rather just a pretty big annoyance), but it is interesting in that it is the most concerted targeted spam attack I can recall to date (though I wasn't looking/able to see such things until about 2016 or so)
 
@TylerH I'm curious at what point you would consider it a real problem, as opposed to a pretty big annoyance. Would it be a certain quantity of the spam, or is it something qualitatively different?
 
Other sites (mostly forums) seem to be getting the same attack too, based on a google search of the number.
 
6:50 PM
@TylerH The "worst" spam wave we've had was was 287 reports in 1:13:21 on 2019-04-02, which works out to 235 reports/hour (i.e. 287 reports in 1.225 hours). While this one has gone on significantly longer, at its highest rate, it's a bit more than an order of magnitude below what we've seen as a maximum rate.
 
@NathanOliver FWIW spamming posts out works in most cases. The system does catch on after a while. And we've been ban/destroying accounts wholesale. They're just doggedly determined to keep on trying to evade us
 
@cigien I'd consider it a real problem when it's impacting the community's ability to use the system. E.g. when the system is just absolutely inundated, where a significant proportion of the questions on a given page are spam, or when there is so much that it lasts minutes to hours before it can be deleted by auto flags, etc.
 
The good thing is that having Charcoal nuke them so fast means the spam doesn't live long enough to be of any real benefit
 
Or of course when it overloads the load balancing servers but that's something that would require a significantly entrenched actor to pull off
@Makyen True, but that was one concentrated burst. I consider this event far more problematic since it seems to not have let up at all over three days
if not longer
 
Yeah, DDOS is hard to defend against without something equally distributed like Cloudflare
 
7:08 PM
@TylerH It's been more than 4 months for this group of spammers, or at least ones with very similar posts. They have significantly increased the rate of posting over the last several days.
 
7:27 PM
huh... when i search for "is:article", i get 6 results. but the page says 7 results
 
8:06 PM
@TylerH Ah I see. Yeah, I would call that a problem for sure :) It would probably require taking down Charcoal to achieve something like that, fortunately.
 
 
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9:07 PM
Are VLQ flags auto-marked as helpful if OP edits the post? I'm talking specifically about answers.
 
@MarcoBonelli No, they are marked as helpful if anybody edits it
 
@Dharman I see, good to know, thanks
 
even if you edit it yourself?
 
9:29 PM
I hope everyone is getting their flag quotas during the spam wave :P
 
@KevinB I believe so, but I can't remember
 
@Machavity I'm usually not fast enough! I'm glad I read this post though.
 
9:50 PM
Oof, the [tag:powerapps-*] tag family
all of those should probably just be synonymized to frankly
@tacoshy That's not what a masonry layout is
a masonry layout is what pinterest does
the behavior of 'expand on hover' is unrelated to a masonry layout
 
This is clearly a duplicate question, right? I'm just second guessing myself because of the ridiculous response it's gotten in 45 minutes.
 
...
> This is a bad answer. (0 downvotes)
 
Out of votes for the day
 
right, but,
you're not the only one who's read it
and it has 3 upvotes
> Note: this exists in Python with:
so, presumably, they think because it exists in python, it must exist in php? unclear what that has to do with the question
oh.
it's one of those
 
10:14 PM
 
10:28 PM
 
11:08 PM
 
Is this an answer?
 
11:28 PM
What ever the site is doing "automatically or otherwise" to combat spam it's not enough
 
@TylerH congrats, that must be a sweet achievement :)
 

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