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12:37 AM
Another suggested edit for the HTML/web SMEs. It appears to me that this is fixing an unintended error in the answer introduced by a recent edit from a high-rep user. Could someone confirm that this edit should be approved, and also confirm if the edit from the high-rep user should be rolled back?
 
1:00 AM
@RyanM it looks like the edit suggestion does fix a problem that the OP themselves introduced in their most recent edit. It certainly does not look like what they intended as default submit handling only sends named elements. That might've been an accident since they did not even mention it in an otherwise accurate summary. I am inclined to ask in comments first
 
@RyanM That "high-rep user" is answer author btw
 
@HenryEcker ...argh, I need to look more closely. Thanks. The rest stands, at least.
 
@RyanM Yes. I agree with @OlegValter though this edit does fix the problem. The follow up examples use name over id and other answers elaborate why name is necessary over id.
 
@RyanM I went ahead and made both the approval and a comment to get the OP's attention if necessary. The edit does not seem to miss grave issues with the post, and definitely attempts to fix a mistake that might propagate if anyone copies without reading the step 23 of the form submission algorithm
 
Thanks to both of you!
 
1:15 AM
NP :)
 
1:43 AM
 
@Turing85 It's fine, so long as both answers provide useful information that's not in the other answer. Merging would be nice, but it would require both users to agree; leave a comment if you think they might.
 
2:18 AM
@mickmackusa Wow, that tool that runs the code in multiple versions of PHP and shows that the output is identical on all of them seems amazingly useful.
 
2:36 AM
@desertnaut You might have time to edit the cv-pls?
 
@RyanM yes, and it is one of the best in terms of responsiveness. Other sandboxes are rubbish on mobile.
 
@Makyen For reference, from the canonical I would say that you are right and in my case there was a coincidence: that I was manually suspended precisely on the minute I checked back to the review queues. Meaning the timestamps suggested the suspension started when the user returned to the review queues. (You can see the history it was my last suspension for VLQ queue.) (cc @cigien)
 
3:26 AM
Am I too picky thinking that this is spamish or, at least, it is an overly commercial edit: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/30257660? Can it be saved, mostly removing the last paragraph?
 
@Vega That content is copied from somewhere. I'm not sure where, exactly, but it needs to be completely rewritten to not have that problem.
Dates back to at least 2009
 
@RyanM That is a super find. Surprisingly my previous Google search didn't end up there. Thank you!
 
Np!
 
 
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4:42 AM
#RO can you please delete this cv-pls? OP added mcve
 
^ @Makyen
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
Thank :)
 
5:52 AM
Smoke Detector is unwell; probably expect degradation for several hours until metasmoke can be fixed on the US East Coast
 
Meanwhile, I am rate-limited, so expect brokenness all 'round! :-)
 
 
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7:38 AM
Is this old question salvageable? It received a ranty NATO and looks like recommendation (or more focus) at first, but maybe something can be made of the second question.
 
Yes, it could probably be turned into a valid question by focusing on "how to configure Ecplise or Netbeans to PIC development", but that would invalidate nearly all of the existing answers, which makes it not a great idea.
 
Yes, I agree. Shows the drawback of "needs more focus" questions.Thanks!
 
Also shows the drawback of 2011 questions. :-)
 
FWIW Smokey seems to have recovered (famous last words?)
 
7:56 AM
For some reason, ffpmeg is commonly thought to be on-topic for SO. Does it somehow fall into the category of software tools commonly/primarily used by programmers?
 
That's an interesting question. It certainly underpins a lot of video conversion software.
I'd say "commonly but not primarily used by programmers"
 
I just see a lot of questions about it, many of which end up highly upvoted, so I wonder if there is something I'm missing.
 
Although the ffmpeg command line interface is awful enough that I'm sure a lot of people use wrappers ;-)
 
Kind of like how I see a lot of Kubernetes questions, even though I'm pretty certain that's a server administration thing...
 
I think the tag wiki excerpt is quite reasonable there
But people don't seem to distinguish between "programmatic" and "general" use
 
8:00 AM
I suspect it's the same reason most general computing questions here get upvoted: they're useful to people with that problem.
I wonder if there's a meta question for ffmpeg.
 
"…you're left with an easy decision: do you want answers from folks who are more likely to treat your question as a programming problem, or would you be ok with answers from resourceful (but not necessarily code-focused) experts as well?" Seems like dangerous advice absent further context. I'd like to get answers on how to load my dishwasher from folks who treat it as a programming problem, too.
 
@CodyGray Yeah, I ...don't know if that really makes sense for a single command line invocation of ffmpeg.
 
If the question is "how to convert a directory full of mp4s to h264 using ffmpeg in a bash script?" or something, that seems reasonably on-topic on SO even if the answer is in fact a single command line invocation.
Which ...I don't know if it is, I usually use Google search to find out how to invoke ffmpeg.
 
Wouldn't that not actually be about ffmpeg, though, but about Bash?
@Adriaan Literally the perfect case for our new, largely-unwanted "needs more focus" close reason: it asks multiple questions in one.
 
8:07 AM
Probably mostly about ffmpeg: I suspect there are more people who know how to write a loop over files in bash than know how to invoke ffmpeg to convert to h264.
...I have to look up both every time, personally. I don't write many bash scripts.
 
@CodyGray ah, I didn't know about the new reason, thanks!
 
@Adriaan Heh. It's not actually new, it's been here for over a year, at least. It's just a rename of "too broad", which a description that frustratingly omits one of the two major use-cases for "too broad"... namely that the question was actually too broad.
 
"How do I create a clone of WhatsApp?" is, after all, only a single question.
 
Remember when people used to want to create clones of Facebook?
 
@CodyGray Or Stack Overflow ;)
 
8:17 AM
Hahaha, ugh.
Too bad that wasn't mod-flagged for admission of a suspension-evasion account.
 
Sorry I missed it, but it's as I said before. We can't find the older posts/accounts anymore without mod powers
 
@Dharman Right. You're supposed to read all of the questions as they come in and memorize them, so you don't ever need to refer back to them. Only the lazy, forgetful mods need to be able to search the old deleted posts.
 
I try to, but there's just so many of them
 
Alternatively, you could also search the Graveyard ;)
 
8:26 AM
Cast my 20,000th close vote today! It was a nice, custom one, written specifically for the question.
(although I didn't know it was my 20000th at the time)
 
@RyanM "I'm voting to close this question because it is homework?"
 
because it is asking for code
 
@CodyGray Nah, I just slapped the answer to the question in the close box.
 
Oh, of course. But remember, you only want to do that if it's not homework and it shows a sufficient amount of effort. The asker needs to clearly demonstrate that they've suffered.
 
You must pay the code tax to get an answer.
 
8:29 AM
Is this a useful tag wiki excerpt edit? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/30292434
Providing an MRE is more of a general requirement, and not specific to a single tag.
 
@janw It's only for debugging questions.
 
(and they forgot closing the last parenthesis)
 
@janw No.
 
Thanks!
 
Agreed with Cody. And I'm slow to read today. The requirement to provide a reproducible example is only if somebody is asking stuff like "I have this plot but it's wrong, how do I fix it?" but conceivably you can also ask "which plot type do I use for X" or "how to plot Y type of data" which are not debugging questions.
If you need an additional reason to reject the edit, then it's using American spelling.
 
8:36 AM
@VLAZ That's not a good reason :-(
 
@VLAZ Sure, I just meant that this rule does not only apply to this tag specifically, but all other tags as well, so mentioning this specifically in the excerpt does not make much sense :)
And yeah, they didn't even distinguish between debugging/non-debugging questions there...
 
Once again, the character limit for rejecting edits meant that I could only offer a limited explanation.
 
@CodyGray (but forgetting a closing parenthesis is one
 
As long as that's not what VLAZ meant by "American spelling" :-p
 
:D
 
8:42 AM
@CodyGray Was meant to be a joke but I missed that "/s" at the end
 
"So how can i fix it?"
 
@CodyGray Double all non-post character limits sitewide.
 
9:02 AM
Is this now plagiarism. They copied the content from the link. stackoverflow.com/a/69880735/1839439
 
@SmokeDetector looks off, but also OK for this particular question
 
9:19 AM
@RyanM so it's election time on writing.se, I was checking out one of the candidates I vaguely knew by name and he wrote this interesting post mapping some modern pronoun polemics back to 17th century religious polemics. I must admit the historical connection is brilliant and I had never thought about it.
 
10:04 AM
@Adriaan is it OK to delv-pls this? It has an e-mail address attached to the post
 
@Adriaan No it's not. Because it's been deleted.
 
11:32 AM
is this on topic? I don't see it much programming related but I don't know the technology so I am not sure. Tags seem to be incorrect imo but I don't know.
 
@Vega sorry, what?
 
@desertnaut There were some diamond dust intervention :) chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/53422668/history
 
@Vega oh, I see - thanks @CodyGray
 
:-)
 
@SurajRao looks like translated now...
 
12:00 PM
Has anyone seen any meta posts about the change to review queues in the last 24 hours? Vote up/down on a review audit used to immediately trigger an audit response, but now it doesn't.
 
@JeanneDark That'll do. Thanks. I just failed a First Answers audit by voting down and submitting. Previously the downvote alone was sufficient and, as I knew it was an audit (as I'd looked at the question outside the queue and the answer wasn't there) I was surprised by failing.
 
stackoverflow.com/q/64988532/4826457 is this a recommendation question?
 
No.
Heh, a whole bunch of flaggers got lucky there that I noticed the post had been edited. :-)
 
@CodyGray I've seen one mod just delete and then immediately undelete an edited answer. Is that a quick way to validate the flags and save the post?
 
12:11 PM
Yes, that would work. But I just marked the flags as "helpful" without deleting.
Would be nice if the flaggers revisited their votes, though.
 
But a score of -4 indicates that there was something wrong with the answer ;)
 
There was, indeed!
 
It's nice when you can kind of watch live how a voting ring is being destroyed.
When a duplicate answer of a now deleted answer (by same user) is posted, does it also raise an automatic flag?
 
You like to watch the world burn?
No, I don't think it does, if the first answer was deleted before the posting of the second.
 
Is this answer the same as this (post has been deleted)? Also not really answering the question.
 
12:24 PM
Yes, same, and no auto-flag.
 
thanks!
@CodyGray For the moment just voting rings ;)
 
12:53 PM
Interesting tags:
 
Are we allowed to request fast replies in this room? xD
 
I donno, but I downvoted fast
 
@SurajRao looks like
@SurajRao either this, or general computing
 
1:10 PM
@desertnaut OP is asking about deep linking from their own app.. doesn't look like general computing to me
 
@SurajRao you're right, but I just VTCd as GC :(
 
Is this a PHP version of the "RTFM" duplicate closure?
 
@AdrianMole Isn't it strange that the comment about the duplicate is not gone at the time of the closure?
 
@Vega Yeah, a bit. But the poster of that comment isn't one of the close voters (though possibly a close flagger).
 
I thought it didn't matter who made the comment
Can we say "made a comment"?
 
1:20 PM
Well, if it's a voter or flagger, then the system should recognize the comment for what it is and delete it. If it was added manually, then I'm not sure the system can spot it.
And yes, you can say "made a comment."
 
Oh, super, thank you!
 
stackoverflow.com/posts/69787487/timeline probably manually added yes...
 
But, in that case, the 3 upvotes on the comment would seem to tie in with the three close votes.
 
@AdrianMole Yes, you got it. The comment author wasn't even a flagger
 
1:43 PM
eh?
 
Hmm - downvoting known-bad audits in First Answers no longer passes the audit - you have to also do "Share feedback". Pain.
 
@AdrianMole Somehow related to that earlier discussion?
 
@JeanneDark OK - I missed that. Thanks.
 
2:07 PM
what to do with a question where the code is full of trivial errors, like code outside function, variables not defined, typos...? stackoverflow.com/questions/69898621/…
 
That's... a day's work worth of typos x)
 
isnt there a debug c++ canonical?
 
That specific question maybe needs more details or debugging details? It's unclear how it is supposed to work, what exactly does not work and, especially with countless typos, the code probably doesn't count as an MCVE.
 
2:24 PM
@Juraj If there's a bunch of typos in the code, voting to close as typo is reasonable; it's not going to be useful to other readers.
 
3:06 PM
stackoverflow.com/a/58153093/4826457 NAA? (SD Report of question)
 
@SurajRao Yep, that's NAA
looks like it might have been an attempt to reply or edit the question
 
It looks like an edit to me. But the sentence seems to end abruptly.
 
yeah
 
3:24 PM
@SurajRao OP's comment: "I posted a picture of what I'm looking for and trying to replicate in the answer's box above if you can see it"
 
Ok I edited it in.
 
@JeanneDark That answer is the OP. The comment directing to their own comment is confusing.
 
@HenryEcker The OP commented on another answer telling them they posted an answer with more info. That self-answer was discussed in here. The comment confirms that it's not an answer and was not intended as an answer by the OP. I don't think it's confusing. They just abused the answer box to provide further info.
 
Ah the comment is clarifying to others that this is an incorrect use of the answer box. I didn't realize the dates from 2019 I thought this was for the OP (which made less sense)
 
3:41 PM
I am judgemental at all right now and still find it incongruous when the OP is able to understand the complexity of that "crossover whatever" there, but do not see that they are posting in the answer post while they could do an edit to the question post
I meant "I am NOT judgemental". I am tired of my typos, sorry
 
I guess they treat it like a help desk or your typical forum and just don't care. Oftentimes, they didn't even take the tour.
 
maybe not allow posting question till they have an informed badge?
 
I don't think that would help. You can simply scroll down. What I meant is rather that the lack of an Informed badge is often a sign that they also do not try to get informed about what SO is. So they likely don't care, especially not as long as other people still answer their questions (in comments or answers).
 
4:06 PM
We have community adding auto-comments nowadays?!?
 
first question review queue. stackoverflow.com/posts/69893791/timeline
 
@Adriaan Yes, from review queues.
 
Ah, that makes sense, I think
 
Been around for a while. The new UI for the review queues.
 
4:13 PM
@Calculuswhiz smells as one of those old Shog official-repository questions
 
@Adriaan I'm not sure what that is. Does that mean that question's ok?
 
thoughts on ?
 
@Calculuswhiz I'll have someone who's been around during the last year (I wasn't) weigh in. There used to be an exception raised by Shog9 (former CM) about where to find official download locations of programs/libraries
@SurajRao sounds like another SE site. In any way not very useful or according to the burnination criteria
 
I have a weird problem with a question - somebody just asked about code that doesn't work. It's not code they have written, it is code given to them (I suspect from interview but doesn't matter). The code has many flaws that are intentionally there. Seems the goal is to get a discussion about what is wrong and how to improve it. My problem is there are too many problems. There are at least 3-4 things that would straight up stop the thing from working. There are also conceptual problems.
Would that qualify as too broad?
By rough estimation, there are at least 10-15 things I can definitely say are wrong with the code.
 
@VLAZ I would definitely CV that as too broad TBH, or if the OP didn't add the needed explanation then needs details/clarity
 
4:22 PM
@VLAZ it may also be debugging details if the code (A) does not work and (B) did not explain what it is supposed to do. Or typo if there are many trivial errors.
Hard to say w/o context. Which close reason text would most help the OP fix the question may be a better question if almost all the close reasons apply.
 
@HenryEcker Syntax errors, code that is straight up doing the wrong thing, code that would work if it was used correctly, etc. The first problem would be that it's calling a constructor without new. Then it tries to call a static method on an instance. And the static method tries to access instance variables. But reading one of the variables would also throw an error (there is a throw in the getter). That's just the beginning.
 
@SurajRao seems like a good candidate for burnination at first glance
 
I actually VTC'd it a moment before @MarcoBonelli advised me to (thanks, by the way). I re-read it and it's just not possible to answer usefully in the current state.
 
@VLAZ is the OP explaining anything at all, or is it just an HW dump?
Oh ok well case closed I guess, for now...
 
@MarcoBonelli OP said that the code was given to them as an example of bad code. But OP didn't know which specific parts were problematic. I suspect an interview question but as I said, I don't think it matters.
@MarcoBonelli As is the question now ;)
 
4:27 PM
All I'm saying is: if OP didn't even manage to explain what is going on with a little bit more detail, then it doesn't even matter what the code does. It needs more clarity.
 
@MarcoBonelli The point of the question was "explain what's wrong in this code". That much was clear. There were just too many problems. It's not even hard to figure out what the code should be doing, it's just that almost every line of code is in some way incorrect. Either a code error or a conceptual one. I joked in a comment that the only line I didn't see a problem in was the one that just read } else { but...it might genuinely be the only line that is correct. But it might even be true.
There are 45 lines in total (including blank ones).
 
Oh ok in that case I would've CV'd as too broad
 
Attribution is required here stackoverflow.com/a/69898626/15497888 but I can't seem to figure out how to put together a well phrased attribution.
*that doesn't disrupt the flow of the answer
"The question by Navro says:" seems disruptive.
 
@HenryEcker you mean attribution before the initial quote in the answer? That doesn't need attribution IMHO, it's very common for answers to briefly quote the question they are answering, the intention is pretty clear.
 
@HenryEcker Are you sure quoting the question requires attribution? Seems implicit in a Q&A context.
 
4:40 PM
@VLAZ Yes. Quoting anything from anywhere on Stack Exchange requires attribution, even when it's on the same page.
 
@HenryEcker I'm aware that's the case when referring to other answers and when mentioning other resources. I just am not sure if this is required for quoting the question. If so, I'd have to go and update some of my old answers which have quoted different parts of the question to tackle.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to if that's what's needed. I just didn't think it was. It gets...noisy, especially when quoting multiple times.
 
I could be incorrect. I would be happy to know if I am. I just don't see how, if the question and answer both have the same the exact same license, there could be one requirement for questions and a different requirement for answers.
Although you are correct that stackoverflow.com/help/referencing only mentions "in an answer on Stack Overflow"...
 
@HenryEcker That is a very extreme interpretation of the attribution required.
 
Maybe you could ask a meta question if you aren't too sure if you have to give attribution to the question you answered @HenryEcker
 
@HenryEcker I beg to differ. That would make half the answers I see and write on a daily basis miss appropriate attribution. If the source is obvious then there is no need for attribution IMO. It just adds noise.
 
4:48 PM
@MarcoBonelli Right but we do know that attribution is required when referencing other answers on the same page.
 
@HenryEcker you're talking about an answer referencing a question though
 
"You should be aware that all Public Content you contribute is available for public copy and redistribution, and all such Public Content must have appropriate attribution." from licensing
 
@Braiam That's not an extreme interpretation that's what every Stack Exchange referencing and licensing document says: "All Public Content must have appropriate attribution"
 
@HenryEcker Yeah, but that doesn't mention attributing comments, which is also required. You're technically right I think, and I can't find anything on MSO about this. FWIW, I've never seen an answer attribute direct quotes from a question. Which doesn't mean that it's not required, of course.
 
@HenryEcker "appropriate" can also mean "unneeded" if the question is right above the answer...
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I don't have a law degree, but the license text is anything but precise enough to say whether attribution is needed in such case or not IMO
 
4:52 PM
@HenryEcker That is still extreme. Appropriate attribution doesn't mean that it should include link, name, etc. The license was vague like that so that copyright holders can figure out what is appropriate or don't
 
@cigien Yes. I'm aware that this is not commonly done. My question is what is supposed to happen.
 
In all seriousness though, you could consider posting this as a question on Meta SO. It's an interesting edge case.
 
Read don't make it too complicated from the creators of the license itself wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/…
BTW, I remember animuson answered this in comments already.
 
So the only time attribution is required on site is to another answer? This does not apply to questions? Only does not apply to questions on the same page?
 
Whatever the copyright holder feels necessary.
Which no one here is for the post in question.
 
4:56 PM
@HenryEcker Indeed. I'm not finding anything on MSO, and it's an interesting edge case, as Marco points out. Do you want to go ahead and post one?
 
@cigien Yeah. I'll write up a meta post in a bit. I am curious as to what is required/best practice.
 
Sounds good. Even if the answer is that it's required legally, the consensus is likely to be that it's not worth bothering about. There's way too many answers that don't attribute like that. Still, worth knowing the right answer.
 
5:10 PM
 
The only legally correct answer is: If you're copying the content, then it requires the attribution which is explicitly required in the CC BY-SA licenses. My interpretation of what's required is in my answer to: "Removing Documentation: Reputation, Archive, and Links". So, yes, legally it's required in an answer when quoting the question which is being answered (e.g. what happens to the implicit attribution when only that answer is copied elsewhere?).
However, the general convention on SE is that answers usually don't provide full attribution for such quotes. That doesn't make not having the attribution for such quotes legally correct, but it is expedient. That's not necessarily a good thing, but I expect there would be quite a bit of resistance to requiring full attribution for answers quoting the question (note that you'd need attribution for code too, even if changed).
 
Well, this guy quotes part of the question and doesn't give explicit attribution. But, despite the large number of upvotes, I can't really say if that guy knows anything about anything, any more. xD
 
@AdrianMole That you can find millions of examples by any number of people, almost certainly including myself, where there isn't such attribution doesn't make any of them legally correct. There are, of course, arguments that small quotes can be legally copied under various different exceptions to copyright laws (e.g. "fair use" in the US, under which a lot of such copying could reasonably be considered legitimate). That doesn't, necessarily, make it legitimate in all jurisdictions.
 
@Makyen I agree. But, here, we are dealing with a case of the letter of the law versus the spirit of the law.
I just thought an example by one such as Shog9 may be useful to quote, if the question is raised on Meta.
 
5:27 PM
I'm not sure that would be useful, at all
 
@AdrianMole Unless you're using something that directly addresses the issue, bringing up examples such as that is fallacious. All you're doing is providing an example where they didn't provide attribution. You're not demonstrating that they even thought about the issue in that case.
 
@JeanneDark That was the first one of his answers I found with a partial question quote in it. There are probably many others. But it is also typical of the format used by most answerers, when they do that.
I normally italicize (and block quote) such excerpts.
 
@AdrianMole I don't see how it would be useful, though. Who the user was is not really important and could look like you wanted to shame them.
 
@JeanneDark Possibly. Maybe it would be better to cite one of one's own posts as an example.
... or one of mine (with permission) if they don't have one of their own.
 
Permission is not actually required, only correct attribution is.
 
5:34 PM
I understand that; but I was addressing Jeanne's concern about the perception of "trying to shame" a poster in a Meta post.
 
@AdrianMole Ah, I see. BTW, I agree that linking to something Shog9 said, or did, is a good way to sway public opinion one way or the other. Fallacious though it is to bring up such examples, it does appear to have a lot of effect on how users perceive whether an action is appropriate, or not.
 
Reporting for historical interest
 
What happened on that last SD report. 3 mods had to be involved
 
5:55 PM
@Dharman They're just practicing on working as a team ;)
@bad_coder Does that have recent activity? I might be missing it.
 
6:23 PM
@Dharman Dunno. I can pick out why 2 of the 3 were there
 
Maybe Cody gave a lesson
 
6:54 PM
 
7:32 PM
How should one answer this question? Should my comment be an answer? That "feels" wrong.
 
@Turing85 I would not answer that question; I would ask for more details.
Anyway, JSON can be used with Java and is done fairly often (though you typically use a custom library for it like org.json or something)
 
@TylerH Asking for details implies a lack of information. What information do you think is missing?
 
Well, he wants to use JSON without using... a fundamental aspect of JSON
the JSONObject is the... well.. the data of a JSON "file" or dataset
it sounds like he wants to return something in the same format as JSON without using JSON itself... for some reason?
Maybe it's more clear to a Java SME (I haven't written Java in... 14 years?) but to me it's not clear what OP is really wanting to do and what the issue with JSON itself is
 
So he really wants Java Object Notation, or JON
 
For me the question is quite clear. they want something like: MyAwesomeObject object = { "name": "foo", age: 42 };
 
7:43 PM
So, JSON
They even say the JSON file type
 
without creating a JSONObject
 
It's like saying can I write C# and save it as a .cs file without using any namespaces
I mean, I guess you could, but you'd have to re-implement the namespace content yourself to be able to write anything
 
@TylerH That I don't get.
 
🐂💩
The most descriptive scene from Jurassic Park.
 
7:58 PM
As we are talking about JavaScript vs Java: I came across this while looking for something else, earlier on. Made me chuckle.
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Now I know why there's no fan/ventilator emoticon in Unicode...
 
@AdrianMole ew
 
@AdrianMole How JavaScript was invented 😀 (RIP Juan)
 
8:25 PM
You still won't top the best use of JSON ever
 
@Machavity was it to try and parse HTML?
 
@TylerH It might be the most unholy use of versioning I've ever heard of
 
Ah yeah I've read that one before
 
That one gives me shivers
 
reminds me of the guy who wrote his own language on top of Java or C or something and then wrote the whole company's systems on that language abstraction for job security
then a new hire figures it out and starts trolling him
 
8:56 PM
Does this qualify as "typo"?
 
Apparently so.*
 
honestly, if this qualifies as typo, I will start flagging those kinds of questions as duplicate of the debugger canonical again...
 
I feel like there's probably an array out of bounds duplicate that exists.
 
9:18 PM
@Turing85 No, I don't think it does. It's a clear question, with a description of the problem, and it's reproducible. The first comment on the question is, in fact, an answer. Of course, as Henry points out, that's definitely a duplicate.
 
10:10 PM
@Makyen For that example, such minimal quoting for the purpose of commenting on it (by responding) almost certainly would fall under fair use in the United States. I can't speak to how other countries handle that, though.
 
10:27 PM
@Turing85 and hasn't Arvind posted that same answer to numerous questions?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I see some answers that are quite similar, but no duplicates.
@HovercraftFullOfEels correction: found one
 
@Turing85 I've seen many such answers from him, and in this case, I have flagged the moderators for evaluation.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels have you seen Zoe's comment? =)
 
10:42 PM
@Turing85 Indeed
 
gabs popcorn
 
And super-fast too (is he lurking in here?)
 
didn't you raise a flag? Maybe that's what triggered them.
 
@Turing85: a custom flag is almost never acted on that quickly
 
Well on the other hand... I had a 2nd upvote on my comment. Maybe coincidence... that they were watching from the get-go
 
10:46 PM
Oooh I got -270 rep. Voting corrected.
 
@Dharman: whoa!
 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... it's gone.
 
@MarcoBonelli Don't vote to close. Simply flag Q and A both as spam.
 
ok makes sense, thanks
 
11:02 PM
@Dharman That's a big fan club.
 
Yeah, PHP fan club. I was just one of the smaller collateral ones.
@Turing85 No, but it's been happening more. It's not an isolated case. See my MS comment
 
@Dharman translate says its Indonesian
 
Seems like a weird hybrid between Indonesian and Romanian.
 
Ohh, my flag got declined. Strange as I flagged the one yesterday and it was marked helpful
 
Is the quantum moderator
 
11:24 PM
this is a duplicate of that. More interestingly, OP self-answered. In my opinion, the first question is even broader than the second. What's yours? Just leave it be?
 
If a question is duplicate of a closed question, using the same close reason is reasonable.
They are, after all, asking the same question with the same issues.
 

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