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12:01 AM
 
12:49 AM
Hmm. So, "Me too" isn't always NAA. New to me, but I'm prepared to learn...
 
@AdrianMole that's wrong in my opinion, they should have posted a new question, not an answer which is a question
^ looking for my canned comments
 
Well, I retracted the flag but left my (original) canned comment ...
 
Welcome to Stack Overflow which is not a forum, but a Q/A site. Please don't add **Me too** comments as an answer.
You can always ask a new question following the
[**How to Ask**](http://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask)
guidelines. Also consider to reference to this question to provide additional context.
something like this...
 
But read the page that Jeremy linked ...
 
OK, hang on
hmmm ?
don't know, where it says to rephrase a question disguised in an answer...
 
1:01 AM
Not sure I ever actually read that page before .... is it a new thing?
... the "Have the same problem?" section, I mean.
 
@AdrianMole Help us find a solution by researching the problem, then contribute the results of your research and anything additional you’ve tried as a partial answer. This is definitely NEW to me
what is a partial answer?
 
Just means we all have to have several thousand of our previously "helpful" flags re-marked as "partially declined". ;(
@Vickel One that ain't impartial?
 
^ haha
@AdrianMole is there a Meta post to enlighten us merely mortals on partial answers?
 
Dunno. It's too late for me to worry about until after some good shut-eye time.
 
maybe this needs to be discussed, since the help page seems to have been changed recently (at least I don't remember that 1/2 answer context)
 
also of note (self-answering): Partial self-answering etiquette
 
@AdrianMole same here... about to zzz
 
But, even taking the above-linked Meta posts into consideration, is the post I linked to start this conversation even a "partial answer"? The other commentator seems to think it's helpful (and, from my limited encounters with that user, I feel he's a good contributor/reviewer).
 
@OlegValter if you have time, maybe to compile a meta question to get a canonical guidance would be great. You write great content :)
 
1:14 AM
^ +1
 
that... was unexpected :) I'll try - there seems to be another abyss of discussions on our Meta too
 
@AdrianMole for me it is simple, a new question should never exist in the answering section
 
That's what I've been working with for the past few years of reviewing.
 
^if they changed their mind on it, maybe we gonna be a forum soon
 
we already are, methinks, too late. On a more related note, I always thought of partial answers as posts that address, well, a part of the problem and thus are valuable contributions, just scoped. The answer in question looks like it would be better off as a question closed as a dupe of the original (or vice versa) once a solution is found. And temporarily linked via "related: <link here>" in comments
MSO seems to be more inclined to treat such answers the same (i.e. they are better off as questions linked together): Is a partial answer OK?
 
1:27 AM
the official help page stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-answer "have the same problem" paragraph seems to me utterly wrong
 
@Vickel hmm yeah indeed
 
^ maybe someone could ping a CM on that issue?
 
that section title is fine but the section content should be re-written to instead advise posting a comment or series of comments
 
there is, though, this answer from Jean-François Fabre. Of note is "Partial answers/workarounds are considered answers."
 
this is the misleading part: Help us find a solution by researching the problem, then contribute the results of your research and anything additional you’ve tried as a partial answer
because what AdrianMole had pointed out in the start of this threat, is a new question and NOT an answer (not even partial): stackoverflow.com/a/69230042/2275490
 
1:37 AM
yeah, we likely need a FAQ on what is considered a partial answer
 
@OlegValter and a new question (much better phrased and documentation) is still a new question and not a partial answer, right?
 
@Vickel I don't disagree - as I mentioned, I too do not think this particular case is a partial answer. It does not answer anything, it is just a better formulated and better-researched question that can be used as a duplicate target once answered. Thus I, too, think that the phrasing in help center is actively misleading and is too forum-like as well, far from the spirit of Q&A
 
@OlegValter I don't know your timezone, here it is nearly 3am, I need to leave. If you feel like writing something on Meta please let me know, otherwise I will tomorrow...
 
1:54 AM
@Vickel ~5AM where I am from :) Certainly not today, so feel free to draft up something, and I'll chime in with my thoughts then. Or vice versa - depends on how it goes
 
go to sleep :) or are you up early?
 
up early :) I have a weird schedule
 
@Vickel Pinging a CM is an offence punishable by an unmentionable sanction. Maybe risk pinging Bhargav, though (he's the one what done deleted the post in my original message). But that would need super-ping powers (mod-only @@) in here, as he hasn't been around for a while.
 
2:27 AM
@OlegValter has 5 o'clock vodka, @Vickel has 5 o'clock cachaça.
 
@bad_coder hey, I like whiskey more :)
 
VODKA !!!
@OlegValter I once had drinks with Ukrainians, a fearful experience...
 
@bad_coder nah, only if Finnish - it's milder
 
@OlegValter point taken, I'll be getting me a bottle of Finnish vodka. Provided I can find a drinking companion for such exquisite specialty.
 
2:44 AM
@bad_coder how so? :)
@bad_coder they make good stuff. Russian one is too... rough
 
@OlegValter they drank that distilled stuff like it was water...
And I do mean: another one shot straight up...Until the break of dawn, and they were still standing :O
@OlegValter there were some hard drinkers of my country in the group, they had an obviously rougher time than the guys from the black sea.
 
@bad_coder some can do it, yeah :) high alcohol tolerance, I suspect
 
@OlegValter those Finns, they're watering it down (cc @AdrianMole)
 
3:15 AM
I was wondering if someone could help with this question: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/268102/…
 
@Node.JS This room only deals with content on SO. You should look for a chat room where they discuss content on codereview.se.
 
@Node.JS I believe (per cigien's reply) that the main chat room for that site is The 2nd Monitor.
 
3:34 AM
@AdrianMole @Vickel @OlegValter @sideshowbarker No, it's not a new thing. That text has existed in exactly that form since the first version of the "How to write a good answer" page on 2013-06-16. [I'm not making a statement as to if it's good or bad. I'm just giving information as to when it first existed.]
 
@Makyen thanks! I did not check for how long it existed, just agree with the position that it is misleading and is very "forum-ish" as it is basically a loophole for keeping question replies and bypasses the duplicate closure mechanism where one would be appropriate, which is... odd
 
3:58 AM
@Dharman needs more \W in the detections ;-)
 
 
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@DavidBuck it's about shell programming actually, but a duplicate
 
7:40 AM
@SurajRao needs a reject edit
 
7:55 AM
^rant
 
8:44 AM
Ah I have already modflagged that one
 
Yeah I suspected you might have given your comment. I though it might deserve a more aggressive approach but I guess it'll get handled sooner or later anyone
 
@DavidW perhaps. I hadnt seen twitter account connection though
 
 
 
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11:51 AM
and there was one more which I didn't send here. WiFi RSSI based social distancing with code and a question why it sometimes doesn't work
 
12:25 PM
 
1:15 PM
@RyanM if you'd care to take a look at this massive tag wiki suggested edit
 
1:40 PM
Is this nonsense question to be considered rude/abusive? It contains nonsense text and a large amount of unexplained code, without any evidence of containing a true question.
 
It would be merely cd-worthy without the filler, so I'd opt to assume the intent was to smuggle in code using the filler, not vice versa
 
Hello,
I have asked a question here, but I got dislike although I showed attempt and specified my exact problem
Can you please review my question?
 
I assume by "review" you mean tips for improvement, rather than voting?
 
2:28 PM
@Avra this one? stackoverflow.com/questions/69235120/… I would regard a single downvote as just something which happens, although perhaps it could explain in more detail your reasoning. I guess some users are just fundamentatally opposed to time complexity questions
 
 
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4:00 PM
Is this a "link-only" NAA? (Or is it a partial link-only? xD)
 
I wouldn't flag it as NAA. Guess that would get declined. I don't know if "You can use an Elastic Load Balancer" is a good answer to the question but it makes it not a link-only answer (or at least it doesn't look like one).
 
Yeah. That's about the same conclusion I came to (as per my comment). Thanks.
 
 
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5:34 PM
 
 
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6:59 PM
Any javascript developers here? Does it make any difference to put "js" compared to "javascript" as the language when making a codeblock?
 
I believe the highlighting allows js as an alias, but check the meta post
 
Thanks. It seems js is just an alias, yes. By looking at Supported Languages. I'm not a big fan of abbreviations, when it's so easy to write it out in full.
 
Is flagging a suitable method of suggesting that a question (& answer) be moved over to Information Security?
I'm talking about this one
 
8:10 PM
@tink not sure if that one would go on InfoSec. Not much needs to be done there. Rebuild and move on.
 
@rene Thanks, can I retract my flag? :D
 
@tink I hope you can. InfoSec says: to discuss protecting assets from threats and vulnerabilities. and that Q/A basically shows there is nothing left to protect now ...
InfoSec won't be a good place to get specific advice on rebuilding your server
Anyway, I left them some extra advice. I hope they get it sorted
 
That's true ... but infosec also mentions discussing incidents (and this clearly is one). Ah well ... I won't flag things like that again (and I don't see any means of taking the flag back).
Good man!
 
@tink What do you mean by flag? Like a "flag" -> "in need of moderator intervention"?
 
@Scratte - exactly that. I custom flagged it and asked for it to be moved to infosec
 
8:20 PM
@tink You can always retract a flag. Press the flag button/link again. There'll be a "Retract flag" option. (Not sure about the wording).
I mean you can until it's been handled.
 
 
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9:51 PM
Woo-Hoo! Just got my 30th daily delete vote.
... what next? C hammer, here I come ...
 
nice
I like delete votes.
 
Yeah. Tasty, aren't they.
 
10:16 PM
Hmmm - messed up tagging/ markdown slightly and I don't quite understand why (so can't fix it)
 
Removing the line break in the second [] should do it
 
R/A, anyway.
 

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