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2:46 AM
@eyllanesc If I'm not mistaken the reopen queue rules are in the process of being changed right now. See Changing the question reopening experience. Which is still open to feedback atm. I do agree the rules were (are) overall too complicated and only a tiny fraction of users actually bother to be aware of them.
 
3:01 AM
@Scratte good then you're not a moderator, I'll ping you just because...
@Tomerikoo well depends, if we're talking Language identification I'd love to see more questions on the topic :P
 
 
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5:18 AM
Isn't SD supposed to catch these?
 
@oguzismail No, SD is just supposed to catch spam and abuse, not NAA or other low-quality content (though it sometimes does by coincidence).
 
@oguzismail indeed, Smoke Detector is primarily for detecting spam, and only coincidentally reports other types of problematic content. There are several other bots in SOBotics which report various types of low-quality content based on various indicators, but by quick glance this answer has not been reported there
(could be I'm just not very good at glancing)
 
6:06 AM
@tripleee I usually find searching for the post number to be the most effective method to find chat messages about a specific question or answer.
 
@Makyen yeh, thanks -- actually I tried that in SOBotics and didn't find anything
 
Is this question typo (NATO)? Attracts answers all saying exactly the same.
 
6:20 AM
hi
 
hi
 
i have posted a question with some code it but I want to delete the code how do i do it
i infact i have deleted the code that i have posted but not able to delete the code posted by users which should also be delelted. how do i delete code posted by the users?
 
You can't
 
@VijayAnde Please don't make more work for others by vandalizing your posts. By posting on the Stack Exchange (SE) network, you've granted a non-revocable right, under the CC BY-SA license, for SE to distribute the content (regardless of your future choices). By SE policy, the non-vandalized version is distributed. Thus, any such destructive edits will be reverted.
 
6:25 AM
Other relevant links: Public Network Terms of Service, Tour
 
@RyanM is there a way to delete the entire post?
 
Why do you want to delete it?
 
the code should be shared the way it has been in the post so i request to please help me to delete it otherwise its a serious issue to me and my job
 
@VijayAnde That is not how we roll here. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/254493/…
 
6:32 AM
if the mistake already happened, deleting the evidence would be dubious at best
 
@RyanM please help me to delete it 😭😭
 
@VijayAnde See here: What if I posted my employer's copyrighted code, or there is a copyright violation in my question, and for legal reasons it has to be removed?
Stack Exchange implements a take-down process in accordance with the DMCA. If you are a copyright holder, and someone has posted content which contravenes your copyright, then you can file a copyright take-down and the content will be removed.
That said, the code I see here looks pretty trivial and doesn't give any indication of where it's from or what it really does... I don't see most employers having a problem with something like that being posted for debugging assistance.
 
@RyanM you are correct but my client saw this and like very angry whey did you post it. So, please please help me to delete this
@RyanM otherwise they are going to take action on me 😭😭
 
6:49 AM
neither Ryan nor myself are able to help you delete that even if we wanted to; read the links you were already provided for how to possibly proceed with this
you could flag for moderator attention but I expect their response will be the same
most of us here in this room are just regular users, and helping you violate the site's rules would put us in a bad position too
 
@VijayAnde the begging can stop now. You have received all info we have on this. The discussion is closed.
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7:22 AM
Is this an answer?
 
@KevinM.Mansour hard to see how it could be construed as one
 
Same thought. I think it's asking for clarification, it should be a comment. Thanks.
 
8:14 AM
Is this just NAA or spam?
 
@JeanneDark Spam, I think.
Promoting for the link.
 
thanks
 
@JeanneDark I'd say NAA, absent evidence of affiliation or more such posts. Could just be a misguided user suggesting that they might find help elsewhere.
definitely particularly low-quality as far as NAAs go, though. And not impossible that it's spam.
 
thank you. I also didn't find evidence of affiliation but it looks suspicious
 
8:35 AM
Comment left immediately before voting to reopen a question: "This question is effectively a duplicate of [link to other question]"
(the user in question could have dupehammered the question after, but didn't)
 
@RyanM Run out of close votes for the day?
 
Or it's about a question
 
@AdrianMole Could be. They should get the wonderful CVRG, with its revisit functionality :-)
 
9:02 AM
@tripleee Okay, thanks. I was expecting to see a link at the end of answer message from SD here
 
could be some minor formatting, I don't think the filter is very precise
 
 
10:01 AM
Do "teh wroom roolz" allow me to ask for opinions on reopening a question I close-voted? (If not, can a Room Owner delete this.)
 
@AdrianMole yes, close voting a question isn't involvement
 
So, whaddya fink? Is it asking for recommendations? I have second thoughts, now that I see it again.
... but is it actually a programming question?
 
I think maybe not a resource request, but also that it is not a programming question.
 
^ I'll go with that.
I'll expect to be called in to defend my action on Meta, in the near future. I'll quote Ryan M in my defence.
 
10:42 AM
@AdrianMole looking for something else I came across this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/288647/…
 
@rene Thanks - my potential defence is getting stronger!
 
11:15 AM
@E_net4lovesGATs Also in about me
 
@E_net4lovesGATs edited out the abuse but custom flagged for the profile and persistence
(also now deleted)
 
@RyanM When the question isn't salvageable, I just prefer the flag.
 
What's happening here? The OP seems to be addressing themselves in the second person - or is it two people using the same account? Seems very odd.
... OK, now I get it. They converted a comment into an answer. Is that acceptable?
 
@AdrianMole Should be. It's good practice to give credit to it but not mandatory, I believe.
 
11:31 AM
Not mandatory, if someone posts an answer in the comments it's basically an invitation to write it as an answer
 
I guess. The commentator has enough rep. to know how to post an answer, should they want to.
 
I personally wouldn't mind if somebody took a comment of mine and posted it as an answer. Although, I'd expect them to expand on it. I think my comments will make for extremely poor answers.
Also, I often comment when the question probably deserves closure or is otherwise bad. Something I don't think really needs an answer.
 
"Why has someone already put a minus? For what? I just want to know the answer. But I don't have enough reputation to write comments. Why community stack overflow is so toxic???"
 
If someone posts resolving advice as a comment, then please explicitly ask them not to deliberately breach the Q&A page design.
 
11:44 AM
If the page deserves closure, then close it. If it is a typo, you can spell out the typo, but CLOSE IT.
 
11:57 AM
Morning
 
Just wanted to ask if the question needs editing, title saying C++ but tagged and Op didn't respond to questions.
 
@AdrianMole I was just about to ask you about that.
Looks like C code, but the OP tagged as C++ and has C++ in the title. Normally that isn't a mistake.
 
But, as Jeanne points out, the tag is C.
 
A user that is not the OP did that
I was asked with only the C++ tag on the Q
 
Meh. It's a mess! (mess++)
 
12:00 PM
:)
 
12:17 PM
I just cast the final reopen vote on a post; can I retract that? (just musing)
 
12:43 PM
@VLAZ though if you copy the exact text of the comment you're arguably required to credit it by CC BY-SA
 
I'm not a lawyer. At any rate, the answer was edited to not just be a copy-paste. Not sure if it applies in that case.
@tripleee Yes. You just need to retract before the system applies the result of the vote. :P
 
@VLAZ Ah, yeah, I wouldn't say credit's required there. As you said: nice, but not required.
 
If you're reposting a comment as an answer (that isn't your comment) you should really make it community wiki
 
12:57 PM
@Machavity what if someone comments something that I already know and recommend? What if I was already _doing the right thing" by typing an answer while the other user merely plopped a resolving comment?
 
@mickmackusa I don't consider the "same coding principle" to be the same thing as "plagiarism". I'm talking about an obvious wholesale copy, when someone posts a good answer in comments and you want it as the answer
Too many folks who mod flag "They stole my answer!", when all they did was explain the same thing a different way
 
Curious, I consider different explanation ok, but basically extracting the code snippet without explanations the same answer.
 
@Machavity Hey! You stole my mod flag!
 
Is this a 'suspicious' bounty or am I just being over cynical (or even jealous)?
 
@rene Declined: Flag is hazy, try again
 
1:03 PM
@AdrianMole The bounty was to "attract attention"
 
@Braiam I guess it had to go somewhere - just happened to be a New Contributor.
 
@AdrianMole there is not enough evidence for us to start being suspicious.
 
I started being suspicious before I started being in here.
 
@AdrianMole Yeah... there might be something there. Lemme look further
 
@AdrianMole That is suspicious. Did you try joining the Lounge<C++> first?
 
1:06 PM
@rene Yeah - but they sent me to D--.
 
yeah, that is their defined behavior
 
1:54 PM
 
@mickmackusa Rong wroom?
 
Does Natty have a room?
 
Natty has two rooms
 
Oh yeah - there's the other one.
 
1:56 PM
This is the first time that I've seen a comment from Natty.
 
FYI, I didn't flag this since Natty already did chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/52751357 There's no reason to flag multiple times
 
@AdrianMole Nope, that's my room
This is Natty's room
 
Woops.
 
1:58 PM
@Dharman what if OP self-deletes and undeletes?
 
Yeah, no bot looks for that case as far as I know. I don't know if a "dispute" flag is raised in such situations
 
Adding a 'human' flag to one raised by a puppy may be helpful to any handling mods.
Anyone (HTML guru?) care to clean up the tags on this?
 
@AdrianMole Dharman and I can add each other's tags, sure...
 
Chuck php and regex in, for good measure?
 
So it looks like Natty flagged a NATO which tried to answer a page that I closed. stackoverflow.com/a/68636091/2943403
 
2:06 PM
@AdrianMole There's no way to answer this IMHO
 
@AdrianMole well PHP is already there; OP is using it in their code example :-)
and a popup would require either PHP or a client side scripting language like JS
unless you wanna do it a hacky way with CSS...
 
How would you do a popup in PHP?
 
@Dharman same way you do it in C#, I suppose
 
... which justifies my request in here, rather than editing the tags myself (though I would likely have made the same changes as Dharman).
 
use an updatepanel and on click create a new window (or you could do a modal)
(or whatever equivalent there is to updatepanel in PHP)
you need to click something that incurs a postback
 
2:08 PM
Yeah, no. PHP doesn't really have that unless you are using some kind of framework
 
Guess if it did have that functionality, it would evolve to PHP# :-D
 
@mickmackusa Where do you see that Natty flagged that? There's no comment by Natty
 
What does it mean if the post is listed in Natty's room?
 
That Natty looked at it and rated how likely it is to be NAA
 
I went scanning the older comments with in Natty's room.
 
2:12 PM
Natty's own room lists all NATOs that it finds. The scores show how likely it is to be NAA. Not sure what the cut-off is for a flag or comment, though.
 
There's a high chance it shoudl be flagged, but if Natty rates it 4 or above then it posts it in SOBotics for humans to look at
I think if it is 6 or higher then it flags automatically
 
@AdrianMole I think it's 7.0 or 7.5
 
6 ... 7.0 ... 7.5. Do I hear 8?
 
Zoe
10!
 
Sold! {looking for a gavel emoticon}
 
2:14 PM
sigh, yep, another day another series of bad content found on SO... i.stack.imgur.com/29TlG.png
 
@TylerH Each upvote you receive is likely to feel like "yay, some rep for 10 more downvotes".
 
@E_net4lovesGATs that's pretty much how I have felt for the last 5000 rep :-P
 
2:50 PM
 
 
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5:12 PM
Is this question asking for a code review on topic?
 
@JeanneDark Whenever it is go or not, we don't allow code review questions.
 
thanks
 
@Braiam Code reviews should GO to CodeReview.SE
 
6:11 PM
@JohnDvorak translated by OP
 
7:03 PM
@VLAZ I see what you did there
 
7:24 PM
Hmm. Posting a comment as an answer to address someone who suggested their answer should be a comment. Is there a full moon tonight?
OK - looks like the same username but two different accounts. Forgotten password, perhaps?
This is link-link-only-only, right? Should it be NNAAAA flagged?
 
sigh it reads like a politer "RTFM"
 
@AdrianMole does this answer your question?
 
@Machavity RTFMP...
 
7:50 PM
This comment-as-answer multi-account is now getting silly. Should I mod-flag? (The one I mentioned in the "Full Moon" posts.)
NM. Bhargav dealt with them.
 
lmao
 
Least minimized analysis object?
 
"This is a comment."
 
No it isn't, it's an answer.
 
This sentence is false.
 
7:56 PM
Yes, it isn't.
 
New mission. Abort this mission.
 
Thanks to VLAZ, we prevented any advanced AI from evolving.
 
You're welcome.
 
 
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11:09 PM
@bad_coder please move to dev/null@Makyen
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 

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