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3:52 AM
 
4:27 AM
@bad_coder It literally just asked for a list of stop words in Hebrew. It was a single sentence.
 
 
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5:27 AM
@VLAZ that qualifies as a resource request which is off topic. It could be on-topic at opendata.stackexchange.com
 
5:52 AM
Somebody is rage quitting...
 
Let the mods calm them down
 
I don't intend to do much. I don't think I can do much. Seems the user had a string of zero scored posts and their latest one was downvoted. I don't think I can really do anything to change their decision.
I'm keeping an eye for further vandalism but that's it.
 
6:11 AM
@VLAZ you can ask Smokey to keep an eye on a particular user; this is (somewhat drastically) called user blacklisting
 
@tripleee I don't think I have this power over Smokey. I just have the all actions page in the profile open and occasionally refresh it.
 
don't worry, I've done it (-:
 
 
Do we treat "why is [language] written the way that it is?" questions as Opinion-based? Or are there more caveats in the decision tree? stackoverflow.com/q/45422215/2943403
 
for PHP specifically, the only possible answer is "because they were on drugs" anyway
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7:40 AM
@mickmackusa if that is all to it then yes. Why type of questions might be valuable if they ask "why doesn't PHP allow X because now I have to do Y and Z every time instead". Answers to that question will learn us more about X and might even offer an alternative to overcome the perceived problem of using Y and Z.
 
@rene thx
 
8:14 AM
There are some thoughtful spammers out there - a spam post on MSE tagged [spam]...
 
@Tomerikoo what a nice gesture! Maybe we can train spammers to also flag themselves and ban themselves.
 
@rene thanks for this edit I entered to check it because the poor title and forgot about editing the title.
 
@Cleptus You mean "My friend thanks rene for the edit", right?
 
@Cleptus I'm known for polishing turds.
 
9:17 AM
Sorry, I messed up with my clipboard paste. Still, it was spam. :)
 
9:39 AM
User is posting duplicate questions to get quick answers https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68619146/how-to-read-json-parameter-send-to-a-web-service
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68617780/how-to-get-json-object-from-a-webservice
 
"I'll be appreciate!"
 
@shoaib30 going forward, just post a cv-pls for the new post and leave a comment indicating which old post of theirs it's a duplicate of; maybe mention "self-duplicate" in the comment and/or the cv-pls
 
9:57 AM
@tripleee got it, thank you
 
10:55 AM
Are we just witnessing fully-fledged spam on MSO?
 
yep
 
Thanks to SO Teams, I guess
 
It is free ...
 
Meta-spam? Sounds yummy.
 
12:05 PM
Morning
 
@JeanneDark The user profile looks very spammy indeed
 
I agree, looks very suspicious
 
oh look, it's spam deleted. I wonder how that happened? ;)
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 secs ago, by tripleee
I'm thinking maybe NAA and not spam
 
1:10 PM
 
@TylerH: Please delete my above duplicate cv request. Apparently, the problem is different. I need to get some details from OP first.
 
Is this on topic stackoverflow.com/q/43692655/965146 , or suitable on Mathematics?. NATO
 
@Shree It's programming?
 
I don't think so ?
 
@AmitJoshi → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
1:15 PM
@Shree looks like it's related to big O algorithm analysis, so yes
though probably more suitable for CS.SE
 
Ok. Thanks for review.
 
2:20 PM
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Q: Can we remove the [styles] tag?

I_love_vegetablesI just saw this Should we go off-[script] question. Which made me think of a similar tag that I also think should be removed which is the styles tag. It is stated in the tag wiki excerpt that it should not be used: DO NOT USE THIS TAG. This tag does not currently have a single, well-defined mean...

 
@Shree @tripleee There's not an overwhelmingly conclusive FAQ on the subject, but there are several one-off questions on Meta, which all say (more or less) that questions about time complexity, big O notation, or high level algorithms in general (e.g. not applied to a specific programming problem) should not be asked on Stack Overflow, but should be asked on Computer Science instead.
 
2:45 PM
Is recognizing language questions on-topic in any way?
 
@Tomerikoo They might be. E.g., there is a browser API for recognising languages. Questions about that should be on-topic.
 
 
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6:16 PM
@JohnDvorak I think they're trying to ... parse a datetime by converting it to a character and then to a number ???
 
Probably a JavaScript background ....
 
It doesn't work in Javascript either
 
@JohnDvorak I bet it's excel
 
I don't think it works in Excel either
 
Excel internally uses a int for representing dates since a epoch, sometimes, documents with date formatting are changed to numbers, which gives you said integer.
Don't ask me why I know that....
 
6:28 PM
no objection there, but what's with the char parser?
 
R identified the column correctly as integer, asDate requires char type
I think
 
Oh... it's already parsed and they're trying to parse it anyways, and because that didn't work, they're trying to stringify it so that they could parse it?
 
6:45 PM
ugh, need more CVs
 
Are they off topic?
 
close votes?
 
The question you want to close.
 
@Braiam they're duplicates
So I will probably wait a few hours to mjolnir them tonight
 
@TylerH You can also post a link to the dupes in comments and perhaps regular users will vote on them
Assuming the questions are fairly new.
 
6:56 PM
They are, but I've already shared a fair few questions to CV here today
So I try to abide by the guidelines and not flood the room with excessive personal requests
 
Sorry, didn't mean here in the room - you can post the dupe target as a comment to the questions. Or wait a few hours, if you wish.
CVs refresh at midnight UTC, right? If so, it's about another 5 hours.
 
@VLAZ yes, it's around 7 or 8PM eastern depending on whether DST is active
 
7:28 PM
I'd like a moderator to help me with a script. Someone :) helped me to find specific types of reviews, and I'd like to know if moderators will see the same as mortals do on those. And if they do not.. I'd be happy if at some point a (doesn't need to be the same one) volunteering moderator would install my script to verify that it works as intended.
 
@Scratte anyone around in SOBotics maybe?
 
installs script, all PII gets transferred
 
I think perhaps it would be preferable if a volunteer would go to the user script room. Since I don't want to spam this room with my own repository.
@rene ;)
@TylerH Good idea, but I think maybe I should limit my request to one room at the time. I'll ask in there if no one shows up to help me :)
But SOBotics isn't cleaned up, like this room is. I'd expect any request of mine to get lost in the many reports.
Make it possible to retract reopen votes just got a . Time for testing it? :)
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7:53 PM
@Scratte sure, just didn't know if more mods hung out there than here, or if they allowed pings vs here :-)
 
I generally don't ping moderators just because they are moderators. Even if what I'm asking isn't strictly "moderator action", I don't feel right about doing that.
 
8:16 PM
 
9:03 PM
Is this a 'gibberish' NAA, or am I too far gone to be flagigng?
 
@AdrianMole That's NAA, it's a question
 
If you say so! :-)
... to me, it's a strong dialect of gibberish.
 
It looks like it might be an answer, but I can't really tell. I threw a delete vote at it
 
it's a "me too" answer
 
I gave the third Del-Vote ... Dharman now owes me a flag. :-P
 
9:49 PM
@AdrianMole I think @Dharman would be quite happy to trade their flags for delete votes; maybe not all of them, but probably a substantial number of their flags. :)
 
I need my flags too
 
Meh.
 
@Dharman But do you need all 200 of them?
 
summer has been quiet, so I don't need all 200 of them now
I still have around 50 post flags left today
 
I don't often exhaust my daily 100 flags quota; but I do sometimes run out of delete votes. One way or another @Dharman, your debt shall be repaid! :-)
... in the meantime, just keep up the good work.
 
9:58 PM
@eyllanesc Regarding your edit on this question: If you're going to edit a closed question, then please edit in a way that doesn't push the question into the reopen queue, unless you feel your edit makes the question reopenable.
 
@Makyen I don't understand you, 1) I suppose that the points of the link chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=52555114#52555114 are just recommendations, 2) Is editing prohibited?
 
What about rollbacks -- do they push a question back into the re-open queue? (I would guess not). In fact, I'm in the midst of a "rollback war" as we speak
 
@eyllanesc It's an unfortunate state of affairs, but using this site to the most productive requires some significant and detailed knowledge of the consequences of each user action. I read Makyens message as a piece of advice to that end.
 
pushing something to the reopen queue via edit that isn't ready to be reopened takes away the OP's ability to push their own post to the reopen queue with an edit.
 
@BaummitAugen Okay, I understand the advice but I think the single edit has a negative effect on the site. What would generate the negative effect would be the reopening but for this there are already clear rules and therefore sanctions.
 
10:08 PM
@eyllanesc No, editing is not prohibited. However, consuming the question's single entry-by-edit into the reopen queue for an edit which doesn't make the question reopenable is detrimental to the question/site/OP, because it makes it substantially less likely that the question will be reopened when/if the OP edits the question into shape. It is substantially preferable that the edit takes place in a manner which doesn't result in consuming that single entry-by-edit.
The chat messages to which I linked provided a method which will result in any edits by you not pushing the question into the reopen queue. The method requires raising a flag on the question and then retracting it.
 
You are not "wrong" in the sense of the word prohibited ofc when you do sth you think is beneficial, even if it turns out there are effects that make the action not optimal.
 
the only body edits that can occur after closure that wouldn't push it into the reopen queue would be edits by the close voter, correct?
 
@KevinB Edits by anyone, other than the OP, who has voted to close, voted to reopen (major catch 22 on reopen voting), and/or flagged the question with a flag other than "in need of moderator intervention" will not push the question into the reopen queue.
 
@Makyen It would be recommended that this information (recommendation) is published on an official site (for example the tour) and not only as knowledge of some (at least I had not read any of these recommendations). So with clear rules for everyone we can improve our actions. :-)
 
@eyllanesc Yeah, that would be nice. So would having the system changed such that it doesn't need us to jump through hoops to not have the system do something that's detrimental. Fortunately, it looks like they are actually at least looking at changing how all this works (which, if it happens, will probably happen before we could get the official documentation changed).
 
10:17 PM
@Makyen There is a lot of knowledge from experienced moderators that only appears in meta discussions but not in official documentation causing many to be lost. For example, what consequence does our editions generate in each context? When is it not advisable to make an edition? According to the rules as they are, you can do any edition if you have the privileges to do so but do not point out the consequences.
 
old, but, this stuff is out there
 
@eyllanesc Yeah, this issue is one which is really unfortunate. It's a case where the system design is quite poor. People, such as yourself, are editing to improve the post, which they really should do and be able to do without negative consequences. Unfortunately, for closed questions, there's the serious negative of edits automatically pushing the question into the reopen queue, regardless of if the editor intended that to happen, or even knew that their edit had the possibility of doing that.
 
10:47 PM
@eyllanesc Those are implementation minutae. It should happen what most users expect to happen.
 
11:28 PM
 
@KevinB Also multiple highly voted questions complaining that this functionality is bad and should be removed entirely.
 

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