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1:44 AM
@Dharman ok, so I dug a bit into it and the original is a Brazilian folk song called "Boa Noite Povo". Here you can listen to it close to its purest form, an acapella accompanied by only a tambourine to mark the successive increase in tempo.
This is a contralto singer which is also a staple in feminine Brazilian singers like Ivette Sangalo.
You can hear her slowly approaching full power as the tempo increases.
The "Bakermat - Baianá" song you shared only samples 2 sentences. What it actually reminded me of was (and this has cult status) the scale in which the OST of Ghost in the Shell is sung.
So this is a proven formula for success. In the same influence I found it evocative of Bulgarian folklor
 
 
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5:11 AM
I just updated Chrome to v92, and my cv-pls userscript no longer runs (or at least I don't see the cv-pls link). Is it just me?
 
5:24 AM
Stepped through the userscript. Looks like SO changed the classnames for the container that the userscript is attaching the cv-pls button to.
 
@tony19 What version of the script are you using?
 
@Makyen 1.6.11
 
@tony19 That won't work. Please try version 1.10.3.0.
 
@Makyen Thanks, that fixed it. I have no idea how my userscript got lost. I was deferring a TamperMonkey upgrade for several days, and Chrome eventually disabled it, indicating that it was "corrupted". I re-enabled/updated the extension, and updated Chrome, which led to the cv-pls button no longer appearing. Anyway, thanks.
 
5:44 AM
@tony19 np. I'm glad it's working.
 
5:55 AM
"please upvote my answer so i can comment everywhere @Natty"
 
6:29 AM
People marked it as opinionated but I do not think this is opinionated. In fact, there is more insightful thought behind this, and I would like someone to explain that
Therefore, would appreciate if someone can help me open this question
 
See rule #15: "Do not request action on posts or edits where you are involved or where you have a conflict of interest."
 
@TheWanderer why do you think there is insightful thought behind it and why do you expect anybody other than the original author to be able to explain their choices?
 
@TheWanderer I'm with Eric Lippert here and here. Your question is basically the same. Yes, it's not about language specification and design but just about what somebody thought when they came up with something. Perhaps CRUD is nothing more than a joke. Perhaps it was even random.
 
Thank you @tripleee and @VLAZ for looking into the question, and the reasoning. Appreciated.
 
6:50 AM
@snakecharmerb details or clarity rather than focus IMHO; the "more focus" close reason provides a message to the OP that they should "ask only one question" which isn't the problem here
 
Is there an SE site where such a history-of-terminology question would be on-topic?
General English etymology is on-topic on EL&U, but I'm not sure of their feelings on technical jargon that wouldn't be in a standard English dictionary. I sort of suspect it'd be off-topic there.
 
@RyanM retrocomputing might be suitable for computing terminology, vaguely?
 
@tripleee Hmm, you might be right. Their [history] tag has some questions along those lines, such as Why do some people say PHP was “Pretty Home Page”? Was it once PHP's real name?
Basically my opinion on the question is that it's an interesting question and I'm curious if there is a reason, but it's totally off-topic for Stack Overflow.
FWIW I suspect it was picked because "CRUD" is catchier than "CURD" would be. But I have no evidence of that.
 
@RyanM If you're asking about CRUD, then I'm not sure we have a relevant site. But maybe if it was something like "what terms were used before CRUD was invented" then it might be on-topic somewhere.
 
@VLAZ yeah, focusing more on the history and its origin would make it a better question
Actually it's also sort of logical. Obviously CREATE needs to be first and DELETE needs to be last. And you have to READ before you can UPDATE (so that you can find the thing to update). So thus: Create Read Update Delete.
 
7:07 AM
@RyanM I don't want to delve too deeply, so this is going to be my last comment about this. CRUD makes a bit of sense logically - you have to Create before you Retrieve. And you have to Retrieve before you Update or Delete. But you cannot Delete then Update. So, perhaps it's that. It might have also just sounded funny "CRUD" the word means useless whereas the abbreviation is everything you do with records. So in some way, it's the opposite. So, might be similar to "less is more".
 
Yep, agreed on all counts. Except that R is "Read" ;-)
 
Meh, heard it as "Retrieve", as well. And it happened to be the first one that I retrieved from my memory :P
 
7:37 AM
Is that really an answer?
The planet has become so silly...
 
@KevinM.Mansour That's the very definition of link-only and the question isn't even asking for links but some may be impressed by its relatively high score.
 
@KevinM.Mansour The question seems like a SU one. It's basically "How do I show an application". Happens often enough with all sorts of applications.
 
This answer should be completely removed from the planet (Added as comment) and the question should be migrated. :)
 
much too old for migration
 
So, what should happen?
At least the answer get added as comment.
 
@KevinM.Mansour you can't vote to migrate if it's too old for migration; just vote to close as off-topic
 
OK. Thank you. :)
 
8:13 AM
Is this a good answer?
^ Got deleted. :)
 
8:32 AM
Some standard comments are somewhat puzzling, like "Im downvoting/voting to close this answer..." (no, answer hadn't been downvoted).
 
@JeanneDark Maybe the user is in the process of downvoting. It just takes a while.
 
@JeanneDark Or maybe they want to close the answer, so they posted a feature request on Meta and are now waiting for that to be implemented?
 
But there's no feature request...
I guess they are just a bit confused about the terminology. It's from FP review and also counts as review action. Would be interesting to know if they actually flagged.
 
Wiring a feature requests take 6 to 8 time units.
 
A closed answer then cannot be commented on?
 
8:46 AM
If it's the same post I just saw reported by Natty, then it does have a downvote, now (and not from me - I just NAA-flagged it).
 
@AdrianMole Must've also been seen by someone who downvotes a lot.
 
hehe
 
 
Shouldn't comments with "Thank you so much" only be flagged as No Longer Needed?
 
@KevinM.Mansour Yes. I think they might even be immediately removed. There is a regex that checks if it's a "thanks" comment and if so deletes it after one vote.
 
Thank you. :)
 
 
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10:22 AM
bro can you tell me in simple language ... "No."
 
@AdrianMole "No." seems very simple. Seems you've accommodated the request.
 
10:51 AM
I will be the first to admit that i am not the best at JavaScript but how do they expect any one to ever debug that mess stackoverflow.com/q/68584766/1841839
 
@DaImTo Seems semi-minified.
Or rather minified then passed through a formatter.
We usually don't debug those.
 
@VLAZ yeah exactly but how can anyone on SO help with that.
 
so, vote to close it; it's not like questions with bizarre requirements or expectations from the OP is any news here
 
@DaImTo I usually vote "Needs debugging details". Yes, we could but it's huge pain. The question asker should supply a MCVE. That includes readable code.
 
@VLAZ works for me :)
 
10:54 AM
Also, in this case it's a work request.
Exceptions can be made if there is a question about minification. But not "I have this garbage looking code, just work with it instead of me".
 
@VLAZ I would guess a large number of questions are work related
 
User has rep, but their last post looks really spammy: stackoverflow.com/a/68589737/2227743
 
Yes. But we're not a code writing service. Occasionally we get some poor developer that only has minified code and asks a very straight forward question about how to change it to do X. And they've shortened the code to only the relevant part as well as shown an attempt and why it failed. That's perfectly on topic. Just happens that a couple of variables are single letter ones.
 
Maybe hacked account? I haven't flagged yet, not sure what to do.
 
@EricAya Same user posted a decent question earlier: Regex: How to parsing problem ID and time stamp event string
I mean...it's still a regex question but still.
 
11:00 AM
@EricAya The question is a resource request
 
Sorry, too late :D just cast the final vote before the cv-pls showed up.
 
@JeanneDark Ah, indeed. More VLQ than spam, then. Thank you.
Well no, sorry, not the same service... Still looks like spam to me.
 
@EricAya A VLQ or NAA flag might be declined because technically it does answer the question, so the question needs to be dealt with.
 
11:33 AM
Is it worth a reopen-plz request on this (closed for the wrong reason, IMHO), so that I can hammer it as a dupe (there are several targets).
 
@AdrianMole I can see no point; just leave a comment
 
I did. I just don't like seeing questions like that closed as "Seeking recommendations..."
 
it will roomba in 10 days anyway
 
@AdrianMole IMO no, OP could've typed their question title into google and not only had the linked dupe appear as the first result, but have google's preview part highlight the answer
 
Fferi Nuff
 
11:36 AM
Do users ever get a "New contributor" indication if they're an editor?
Or is that only on user cards for posting?
 
@Yashchitroda If you are in the backseat then please share some snacks
 
I like snacks.
 
@Dharman reply not related to any programming!! try being specific
 
11:55 AM
Morning
 
@Scratte No, here is an example, editor (zitrusire) is a new contributor, as indicated by their own posts, but not indicated as such on their edit
 
This question is off-topic, isn't it (NATO)?
 
@JeanneDark I went with yes
 
Thank you
 
12:14 PM
@Nick Oh.. Thank you for finding this :) I think.. I might have to lie in my example then :O
 
@Scratte I hope whatever you're lying about was worth my time :p had to trawl through the suggested edit queue to find a new contributor with approved edits
 
@Nick I hope so too :) I'm having an existential crises that with the new Stacks Design, they are orange on posts that are not highlighted and black on posts that are highlighted.
I'm not even sure how to reflect that in my GUI :(
I figured I could have new users be both the editor and the poster.. and when show the differences.
But that was ruined by the fact that this isn't shown for the editor :(
For reference: Stack Design user cards
 
@Scratte Looks good on darkmode :p
 
Yeah.. sorry. I don't do double screen shots for just posting the examples in chat :)
I really appreciate you finding that example. I'll have to think about how to approach it. I could just force them all to be orange.
 
12:35 PM
^ received quick upvote
 
12:56 PM
"I would up vote this but since I just made my account apparently I am not worthy :-)"
 
1:14 PM
should this page be reopened? stackoverflow.com/q/68585367/2943403
 
@mickmackusa I don't see why, the close reason is wacky but it looks trivial enough to be a duplicate anyway, doesn't it?
 
I, personally, couldn't find a good dupe. I found bits and pieces, but not a good complete dupe candidate. @trip Maybe I was being too picky about my dupe target.
 
1:30 PM
@tripleee perhaps the question is too ambiguous in its requirements.
 
@mickmackusa top comment on the answer there is also R/A...
 
@TylerH Agreed. Flagged
 
@mickmackusa I don't understand what the question is asking. Changing an array to a "character"? Do they mean chr?
They're assigning the numerical value of each letter of the alphabet and using that to decide what value to map each number in the array to?
 
@TylerH Yeah. Okay, I am convinced that it is sufficiently Unclear and should not be reopened.
 
2:01 PM
Hmm. Why did we ever lose the "lacks minimal understanding" close reason? ;(
 
@AdrianMole because it's a reason for every single question to be closed
 
hehe
 
2:28 PM
 
3:03 PM
Regarding above SD reported: Code copied from other answer, link added...
 
3:19 PM
I'm glad i posted my ublock shtuff here a while back, somehow lost all my settings
 
@KevinB You can export the settings and keep them in dropbox/google drive/something.
I just...email them to myself.
 
that's more work than doing nothing
 
Aww, I was just about to dial that number.
(problem was on my end but I just the error popups funny)
 
@VLAZ If you like dialing numbers I have a good one for you
 
5:58 PM
@TylerH Your cv-pls for this question attracted some heat. Could you check whether it's any better after the edit?
 
Heat? On Meta?
 
@E_net4thecommentaryremover thanks, taking a look now
 
6:21 PM
@E_net4thecommentaryremover Yikes, seems like the comment was rightfully deleted, no controversy there. Regarding the edit, it is a good improvement but I need to see if it invalidates any existing answers.
Even if not, personally I'm a bit jaded now by the OP calling me a Nazi so might be inclined to leave it closed and let others act on it.
@E_net4thecommentaryremover aaand OP has reverted the edit...
 
@TylerH I did not exclude the chances of that happening. Meh.
 
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10:52 PM
How to explain this answer better? stackoverflow.com/a/1735929/1839439
 
@Dharman Not sure worth it, really it's the same as the second highest scoring answer
 
But this one uses pointer
 
*a is functionally identical to a[0]
the first dereferences to the first element of the array, the second accesses the first element of the array
 
but but pointers...
 
no pointer
dereference operator
Well, word is really a pointer to the first element of the array, but eh.... it's an array :p
 

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