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3:03 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Please review this. Question was reopened and duplicates were swapped when this is clearly a much worse question.
 
3:19 AM
@SotiriosDelimanolis I'd flag that. Reversal of duplicate is clearly harmful
 
@oguzismail There's a pattern here. I've flagged 4-5 posts.
 
4:11 AM
 
heh - edited (simple typo)
 
 
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6:28 AM
Any flaggers here that want to check for a possible regression: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/407533 . Please report there if you can repro.
 
 
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7:51 AM
@AmitJoshi Will Roomba in a few days
 
8:10 AM
@rene I was able to retract a VLQ flag on Islam just now ... no shortage of actual VLQ posts there IMHO if you are looking to experiment
(I know next to nothing about the site, but they get a steady stream of posts which are just the same old FAQs over and over)
 
@tripleee I would expect SO has a couple of VLQ posts as well, but thanks for checking network wide.
 
8:27 AM
@rene I don't see the VLQ option in SO; too lazy to set up a sock with enough privileges, but not too many
 
8:53 AM
@yivi maybe not reproducible, after your comment there?
 
9:10 AM
@desertnaut Can't reproduce with the given code. "Needs details" also works.
 
 
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10:26 AM
 
 
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12:10 PM
Morning
 
12:29 PM
Is this very poor spam, a rhetorical question, or just plain ol' NAA?
 
@AdrianMole They may mean the author of this answer and misspelled their name
 
@JeanneDark I also thought of that possibility.
 
I don't want to explore Mr Vijay. I don't even know who that is.
^ Coincidence?
 
@JeanneDark Curious.
 
12:47 PM
@Tomerikoo I just downvoted the useless answer. It will roomba now
 
@Dharman ... and I just got you your -1 back :)
 
1:32 PM
@KenWhite @SotiriosDelimanolis a post you close voted popped up on MSE: meta.stackexchange.com/q/364256
 
^ Looks like the case of using the old "focus" reason now that the message has changed from "too broad".
... or maybe not?
 
If you encountered this answer in the LQP queue, would you vote to delete?
 
Thanks for the heads up. I've commented on that question, as it's been closed. My reason for the CV was the same as what your comment on that post described - a list of questions rather than a single question.
 
Badges have disappeared on question pages :-(
 
1:50 PM
@TylerH Need details or clarity (or maybe no repro)?
... I can see badge summaries in the blue box (flair?) under the question.
 
@AdrianMole after a few minutes, Ctrl+F5 seems to have fixed it
 
@TylerH OK - "F5" is, after all, the "Alt-Del". :)
 
well, it wasn't fixing it for the first few minutes I was doing that :-P
 
... and, if you will use Dark Mode, then expect the Dark Side of the force to impact your UI.
 
Naturally, the problem persisted just long enough for me to write up a Meta post, and then right as I was checking again before clicking "post", it got fixed
 
1:57 PM
Darth Badgers at work?
 
@AdrianMole I find your lack of gold... disturbing
 
@KenWhite yeah, I guessed so. The topic of that question is beyond my knowledge level so I wasn't 100% sure what an answer would look like. Anyway, comments are cleared. I guess JG got enough of it.
 
3:02 PM
@Dharman OP translate in English.
 
@Dharman @NathanOliver Please remove the request
 
3:54 PM
Is this NAA or could anything in there be considered an attempt at answering?
 
Looks NAA to me
 
Thank you
 
4:24 PM
Did the look of SO/MSO just change?
 
Yes
 
The font just changed
 
Now I see the MSE announcement
 
It's hard to read now
 
4:27 PM
Yes, but it is much friendlier and cozy. And welcome.
 
When will the chat font be updated? I want my chat to be consistent with my posts.
 
At least good ol Chat.SO still has the boring old fonts we love, and no dark theme to muck up the coloring.
 
Why can't we have Comic Sans for chat?
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That would require someone at the company to actually know the chat stack. AFAIK, they don't have anyone who was there when chat was created
 
4:37 PM
Complain about chat on youtube or Twitter ;)
 
Can't wait for some YouTube driven development.
 
@AdrianMole We have Comic sans day First Friday in July.
 
Is this NAA?
 
@Turing85 It's not good, but I wouldn't flag that myself. It could use a comment asking the answerer to add some more substance to it.
 
4:52 PM
Point is that the "answer" completely ignores the question.
 
@Turing85 The second bulletpoints are not, but the first is a frame challenge (not a great one mind you since no explanation) I think frame challenges are answers. But I don't have the meta in hand.
 
I think I've fixed it for myself in my userstyle
body:not(#chat-body) *:not(textarea) { font-family: Arial, sans-serif !important; } should revert everything back to normal in your favorite user styles/scripts add-on/extension.
(on domains stackoverflow.com, stackexchange.com). Adjust as necessary for diff domains
 
6:17 PM
I answered a question, and only now realized it's a duplicate of a deleted question by the same OP ... slightly miffed but guessing I'll just have to live with it
 
@tripleee technically note a duplicate then :-P
 
actually s/deleted/closed
 
ah
 
sorry, probably bedtime for me now (-:
 
6:37 PM
is this spam?
 
@Ruli It could be considered R/A, but it looks like the user is trying to test something, not actually trying to subvert the system.
 
@NathanOliver was not sure, flagged as unclear as it is unclear what they are trying to do
 
Now that I've said that, I've looked a little more into it and they have another Q in the same vein that was asked over 2 hours ago. Maybe a lurking mod will weigh in
 
@NathanOliver may you please remove this ? it was edited
 
@Ruli Is that what's known as penetration testing maybe? cc. @Nathan
... but it's an 'established' user with some earned rep, so definitely a bit of a funny case.
 
7:22 PM
@Ruli → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
7:45 PM
OK, man, what a mess Aaron has turned SO codebase into. I think I've got it full sorted out now... if you want to revert to the old fonts, apply these LoC to stackoverflow.com, stackexchange.com, and any other TLDs for network sites you visit using your favorite userscript/userstyle extension:
header, header ol, div.topbar-dialog, .topbar-dialog .modal-content .message-text h4, div#content, div#question-header a, div.s-prose, span.comment-copy {
    font-family: Arial, sans-serif !important;
}

body#chat-body, body#transcript-body {
    font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif !important;
}

code, pre {
  font-family: Consolas !important;
}
they have variables inside variables now -_-
 
Variable variables? What next - constants that don't change?
 
@TylerH That wouldn't be all that unreasonable, if they actually used the variables consistently. As it is, there are ~20 different places where they don't use the variables, which is more than the number of places where they use the variables.
 
@Makyen I didn't want to count, on account of them having like 100+ variables listed in both stacks and other css files
 
@Makyen 24 places without the variables vs 16 using the variables. sigh
 
Giving themselves room to make it more complex in the future :-)
 
7:57 PM
Is it just me or does the new font make inline code blocks look even more out of line?
 
@AdrianMole I dunno, my personal styles revert line-height as well
 
@TylerH Just FYI: on 2021-04-16 (the most recent date I saved the CSS prior to the change), this font-family stack used to be Arial, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif !important. The other font-family stack was Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, Lucida Console, Liberation Mono, DejaVu Sans Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Courier New, monospace, sans-serif.
 
@Makyen I worked off of a tab I had open from before the change which just showed Verdana, Arial, sans-serif
but I know that's also gonna be specific to my OS
for example Mac users will have Helvetica but Windows users usually won't
@AdrianMole for reference, here's what my view looks like vs what the default view looks like
 
8:14 PM
@TylerH I use curl to fetch the CSS and JavaScript files. I probably should try setting the user agent to various values, just to see if there's any differences.
 
@Makyen If I use Verdana in some cases it wrecks everythong, but if I use Arial everywhere it wrecks some stuff
So I had to mix and match experimentally
I've found a few additional spots as well that aren't covered by my selectors above
the footer, post preview bodies (on tag filter pages), tag modals that show on hover (which annoyingly is inserted JS, not hidden HTML).
 
8:30 PM
@TylerH Hmmm... I haven't gone over the changes in detail, but the stacks I listed are the primary ones which SE was using in the CSS I downloaded (which, as you've mentioned, might be different based on the user agent presented in the request). In the "stacks" CSS, they were also using Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif.
In stacks.css, they changed:
body {
    --ff-sans: Arial, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;
    --ff-serif: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif;
    --ff-mono: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, Lucida Console, Liberation Mono, DejaVu Sans Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Courier New, monospace, sans-serif;
    --theme-body-font-family: var(--ff-sans)
}
to
body {
    --ff-sans: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", "Ubuntu", "Roboto", "Noto Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif;
    --ff-serif: Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    --ff-mono: ui-monospace, "Cascadia Mono", "Segoe UI Mono", "Ubuntu Mono", "Roboto Mono", Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, monospace;
    --theme-body-font-family: var(--ff-sans)
}
There weren't any selector changes in primary.css, just the values of the font-family property. There weren't a lot of other CSS changes. The main other changes were that their sprite sheets changed, so all the locations they reference changed. There were some additional changes, but none that I'm quickly seeing which should affect the fonts, other than the font-family ones throughout where they made similar changes to the stacks.
 
Looking at this post, the last edit added requirements to the question, rendering the only answer invalid. Would a rollback be justified?
 
@Turing85 yes, edits that invalidate existing answers are not allowed
however, it's early, and we could give the answerer time to edit their own answer/delete it if they choose
rather than rolling back immediately
That said, based on what I've seen, I wouldn't bother waiting very long to roll back...
 
@TylerH Could you please double-check? I think I might be mistaken. Reading the 1st revision very carefully, it was stated that OP wants to map "every word"*, not only the three covered in the answer.
 
@Turing85 Are you disagreeing with your initial remark?
 
@TylerH as of now, I am indecisive
 
8:57 PM
I see, let me read the question and answer
 
It's generally best to read the question before answering. ;)
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9:44 PM
Sorry, I got distracted @Turing85. I would not bother with that particular one. It's arguable that the answerer made assumptions about the contents as well... you could definitely argue the given strings in the questions are clearly placeholders
so the edit wouldn't necessarily invalidate the answer when it was the answer that made the assumption
anyway the author already has +2 on the answer. I'd say let them decide if they take issue w/ OP's edit
 
@TylerH np, thanks for checking and coming back to me
 
 
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11:27 PM
@DaImTo the question has been edited to add code that looks like it could be an MCVE, does that address the issue?
 

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