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2:10 AM
folks, since Samuel took a leave of absence, there is no one actively monitoring bad reviews (at least as far as I know) - where could they be reported for investigation? Case in point: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/28885858 (approved edit misusing code formatting). Would [review-pls] be enough as per the rules?
 
@OlegValter flag the post and link the review, though as far as abuse of code formatting goes, filenames aren't really that bad (I'd say it's fine, though I question the usefulness of that edit generally)
I've reported a bunch of bad reviews that way (with explanations of why they're bad) and they've all been marked helpful
 
@RyanM I am more concerned about reviewers robo-approving this stuff :) Both are heavily biased towards approving everything. Thanks for the tip! I got too used to the "Bad Stack Overflow Reviews" room being active...
 
If they're blindly approving things, I'm sure there's a worse example :-)
 
@RyanM probably :) thanks! Yup, there are - failed audits, of course
 
2:18 AM
Happy to help :-)
I'm always surprised that people fail the suggested edit audits.
 
Or whatever the right word is - I'm tired today
 
really with that one you can take your pick of problems
 
@RyanM yeah, me too, they are literally impossible to fail if you pay any attention to a post (I can only think of a misclick)
 
@RyanM Yeah, it's pretty low-quality
 
Yeah, I've certainly spaced out and hit the wrong thing every now and then and had to go back and undo it.
 
2:35 AM
@RyanM happens :)
 
Can anyone tell me how these linked accounts can have different handles? I thought if you merged accounts that the usernames would be unified. What gives? joomla.stackexchange.com/users/13628 and stackoverflow.com/users/615274/mario
 
@mickmackusa display name is per-profile
 
oh, I had no idea, thanks. (I don't think I like that feature.)
 
 
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6:57 AM
Is this obvious enough as spam for a spam flag or is custom flag better?
 
Looks like spam to me
 
Thanks
 
Does this cross the line of recruitment spam? stackoverflow.com/questions/67406868/…
 
@DavidBuck meh, I would say badly informed. It is closed now. deletion starts.
 
7:02 AM
@JeanneDark The answer above it looks like link-only, too. It also points to an archive that is shutting down in July, that it was changed to because the previous link expired.
 
Yes, there's at least one other answer that looks like link-only too (links to tutorial)
 
@JeanneDark Expired, too.
 
"I don't have time to complete this."
 
7:20 AM
Nor do we ...
 
 
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8:49 AM
dunno about focus but definitely unclear
last seen 2016, 576 reputation ... top 53% overall
(not to single out any particular user, just brings some perspective to what the remaining 47% will be like)
 
 
10:05 AM
@Dharman Translated. Is it reopenable?
 
10:31 AM
 
10:53 AM
how do you close something as You cant do that? stackoverflow.com/q/67416434/1841839
 
@DaImTo "You can't do that" might well be a perfectly valid answer...
 
yeah but is it usefl
 
I don't find a lot of questions useful but they are to some/might be to others...
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Much of the issue I see with "you can't do that" answers is that they state this and not much else. As always, the quality of the answer matters, including telling the details of the problem -- telling the specifics of why it can't be done -- and even perhaps offering alternative solutions.
 
10:58 AM
@JonClements that's the best statement i have read in weeks.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I thought that might go without saying but glad you said it ;)
 
@Tomerikoo no
 
12:01 PM
Can't edit it anymore
 
 
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1:35 PM
What is the correct response to an answer which simply copies another answer? I've forgotten.
 
@code11 Custom flag and link to copied answer
 
@JeanneDark great. Thanks.
 
2:08 PM
 
2:18 PM
is this good enough for a reopen-pls now? The OP was rather irate yesterday but seems to have come more or less to their senses now. Cc @HovercraftFullOfEels
 
@tripleee looks fine to me
 
2:34 PM
also appears to be a very useful tag
 
2:46 PM
 
3:07 PM
@tripleee resolved in the comments now, took a bit of back and forth ...
 
@rene You don't want to help convert VB.NET console application to WinForms with a UI?!
@tripleee Yep, the looooong tail of 1-rep users is like 50% of the site
 
@TylerH No, I don't. Is that disappointing to you?
 
No :-)
 
LOL
 
3:18 PM
Does anyone know if I can get my closure votes info via StackExchange API?
 
@VadimKotov What information are you looking for? However, that's probably going to be a "no", or, at best, inconvenient. It almost certainly won't have information on any deleted questions.
 
From my perusal of this, no.
 
@Makyen I'd like to get the full list of questions I've voted for. It is ok for me if it will be missing deleted questions
@NathanOliver And mine too. Anyway, thanks for the info
 
@VadimKotov You can see that on your profile, FWIW
in the "Votes" tab
you can only filter by upvote or downvote (not both at once), but it does show you deleted posts at least
or at least, I think it does
 
@TylerH Yeah, but I'd like to get this programmatically. I have 4,532 votes cast
 
3:27 PM
@VadimKotov You could derive the information, but it would be quite resource intensive (i.e you'd have to query every question). It's probably better to scrape the response which you get from the AJAX fetch which is done when fetching "pages" of your close-votes in your profile. If you do do so, I wouldn't make more than one fetch every few/several seconds (i.e. take it slow).
 
@TylerH it shows deleted posts for 10k users only
 
@Makyen Thanks, that is a good idea
 
@RyanM ah yeah
 
@VadimKotov voted or the ones you voted on and got closed?
 
@rene Both closed and not closed (invalidated)
 
3:38 PM
@VadimKotov Not even mods can see your close votes (beyond that which winds up visible to everyone)
 
@Machavity I'd like to see only my votes, don't care about other users
 
@VadimKotov Votes tab will show you that. It's the one tab mods don't get. I don't think CMs do either
 
@Machavity Though moderators can see who cast which close votes on a question, right?
(they just can't list them for a user)
 
@VadimKotov I only have actual closed questions for you from SEDE: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1405341
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@RyanM Only once the vote is successful. If you have 2 CVs on a question, we can't see who cast them. We could force the issue by casting a binding CV I suppose
Actually, I take that back. There is a tab I forgot that shows it
 
3:44 PM
Okay, now tell me what I had for dinner last night.
 
It's confusing there because once successful it shows inline with all the other timeline. There's a mod tab that shows votes
 
@rene spam
 
@rene Miracle-Gro
 
You both want me dead? Good to know.
 
@rene thanks!
 
4:04 PM
@Machavity Hmmm... you must be using a userscript I'm not. For me, close-votes on open questions are in both default tabs in the timeline. At least for the userscript of Sam's which I use for the timeline, the close-votes on open questions are shown in every tab which isn't filtered to show only specific things which don't include close-votes.
 
@rene we just want our favourite blurry flower to be a bigger blurrier flower... :p
 
@Makyen Bleh. So it is. Glancing at too many screens today.
 
np. I've certainly done that. :)
 
It's been stressful this week. Finally moved forward on replacing the aged Centos servers with Ubuntu (thanks RedHat!) and that has had its own issues with how the old stuff worked
Fun fact: if you NFS share something for the RHEL apache user, the Ubuntu www-data user can't access it
 
Am I wrong in thinking this is NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/67410473/12708583
 
4:13 PM
@10Rep It's borderline. It's phrased as a question, but it does contain a course of action
 
^ that
 
Those rhetorical question answers are always tricky. I wouldn't flag that
 
Ok, thanks. It is better as a comment tho.
 
Rhetorical questions?
 
Okay, that was not a prime example.
 
4:15 PM
Seven would be a prime example
 
;)
Is this an answer or did they just post their homework assignment?
 
Looks like a copypaste of a homework assignment to me.
 
Thanks
 
@Machavity Ouch. That doesn't sound like fun. :(
 
 
5:18 PM
@Machavity that'll be because they have different numeric IDs. Should be easily fixed?
I have an odd question ... In this question the OP placed a follow-up question as a self-answer; I recommended to them to delete it, they did. But now it's back - how/why? :D
 
They deleted it 17 hours ago and undeleted it 15 hours ago.
 
Thanks @JeanneDark - can one see who did the undelete?
 
@tink Yes, check the timeline
 
Very cool - thank you. :) There's no link to the timeline on the page, is there?
 
There is, it's the clock-like symbol below the downvote button
 
5:26 PM
@Machavity a quick workaround would be to create a new group w/ the same numeric ID on both systems, make both httpd and www-data members and have the new group own files on the NFS share ...
 
@tink I needed to migrate the box hosting the NFS anyways. Everything is Ubuntu now. But if I had needed to keep the orignal host, i probably would have done that
 
Ah OK =}
And again thanks @JeanneDark - guess I'm not quite curious enough, I had never clicked on the "clock" in all those years =D
 
@tink It hasn't been around all that long, so don't think you missed it for the entire time you've been on SO. :)
 
@JeanneDark Now if only they'd make the 'posted on' datetime a link to the revision history...
 
5:36 PM
@Makyen hehe ... phew :D ... I feel slightly less drab, now I'm just not paying attention to changes ;D
 
Sorry, I'll need a loan of approximately 1009 reputation to assist :-(
 
:;
 
@TylerH Shall I start a bounty ;)
 
@JeanneDark lol
 
^ Strangely the flag dialog claimed I'd raised a VLQ flag on it though I didn't and flags raised also shows none (now that I flagged it for closure, it's no longer shown)
 
5:45 PM
@JeanneDark same... I've been experiencing the same thing with all questions.
 
It's really cruel to make me believe I flagged a question as VLQ
 
Same...but only on SO
hmm, it's not every question, but it's many questions
 
Yes, I couldn't reproduce it
 
I can only reproduce it on a question that's been flagged by someone else already.
 
5:53 PM
Hmm, maybe there are just more VLQ flags thrown around on SO, then
 
dbc
Weird. I also tried to flag stackoverflow.com/a/67410053 as "Not an answer" just now but I can't because I apparently flagged it as "Very low quality". I don't remember ever doing it, and it's not in my flag summary list.
 
Interesting ... same for me
 
So it's even on answers now?!? wow. I can see it on the answer as well
 
@dbc I saw it claiming that I had flagged as VLQ, but I can flag it as NAA... and I just did so.
 
dbc
@RyanM Oh you're right! I can flag it. I assumed I couldn't because it said I had already done so.
 
5:56 PM
@dbc There is no indication that you've flagged that answer when looking at the list of flags which have been raised on the post.
 
dbc
@Makyen OK now I just did. When I typed that comment I still had the dialog up.
 
I wrote up a bug report (on MSE since I'm assuming it's probably not actually SO-specific)
 
@dbc Yep, now I see it.
 
@10Rep I was 15 seconds faster
 
@JeanneDark 1 - 0 (for now) ;D. I've deleted mine.
 
@RyanM It's network-wide btw
 
7:03 PM
 
9:30 PM
@TylerH Could that be edited from "what's the neatest way" to "how to"? It seems focused enough to be answerable as a how-to question.
 
@cigien Yes it could be
 
9:47 PM
@TylerH Ok thanks. And for the edit.
 
10:34 PM
Is this link only? Looks extremely like it to me? stackoverflow.com/a/67416429/12708583
 
@10Rep Hmm. You could probably find the link even if it weren't given ... but you'd still be scuppered if the website went down, so the answer depends entirely on that link, I guess.
 
@AdrianMole It depends more on the product, but I agree. I've flagged it as NAA.
 
@10Rep Answers recommending some tool or library must demonstrate how it solves the problem in the answer itself.
 
{plastic imitations of cookies}
 
I've seen a lot of posts like that one but I've never dared to flag them. But now I know, I guess :)
 
10:40 PM
Just be careful and check if the question is asking for a "link-only" answer. :)
... in which case it is an answer but the Q should probably be closed.
 
Is this NAA? Looks link only: stackoverflow.com/a/67420635/12708583
 
"It's a bug" is/can be an answer.
Why do I see X? Because there's a bug [implied or explicit: in underlying thing Y].
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Thanks :)
 
Agreed
 
@BaummitAugen Thanks :)
 
@10Rep Note that requests for NAA should not be posted here, unless the requester has run out of flags and can't flag it themselves, since additional NAA flags don't help in any way for the flag to be handled, and wastes other members' flags. cc @KevinM.Mansour
 
@cigien So Where can I post them?
 
@KevinM.Mansour SOBotics is a place to do it.... or you can just flag it and wait for the flag to get handled.
 
11:07 PM
@KevinM.Mansour There's no need to post requests if you've already raised a NAA flag.
 
@10Rep OK I will post there. Thanks.
@cigien OK. i already raised NAA. I won't post them again. Thanks for Clarification :)
 
np
 
@KevinM.Mansour Note that posts which are posted 30 days after the question are eligible for reporting to the bot.
 
11:23 PM
@KevinM.Mansour There's no need to ask for NAA flags. Unlike red flags, one flag is sufficient to get it into the queue
 
(1 red flag puts it in the queue, 6 red flags deletes it immediately)
 

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