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12:51 AM
 
1:30 AM
I don't get you @mickmackusa, you complain that a misleading answer is getting upvoted because some ambiguity on the question, I remove said ambiguity and you roll back it?
That's not useful.
> The question has been edited quite a bit since this answer was posted. People are still finding this useful, so leaving it for now
 
Like wow in the first few minutes already 8 downvotes and 1 answer with 5 downvotes. This is quite insane
And now deleted :O was it really that bad?
I honestly don't understand why that question got such a harsh treatment.
 
1:53 AM
@Braiam Simply put, I found your title edit to be un-useful; and I find your rollback war to be un-helpful. The new title is more cumbersome / harder to follow logically and makes the requirement too literal to the question's sample data. The accepted answer does more than just removes alphabetical characters and symbols -- it removes everything that is not a digit, comma, or dot. This includes spaces and more.
better to say, if we are going to quibble, that it should be "Remove all characters except digits, dots, and commas from a string"
 
@mickmackusa Then do one better!
 
I always try to think of the best keywords in the title to improve searchability. Partly for researchers and partly for me when searching for duplicates to close new questions.
 
Otherwise, don't put yourself in the way. You are making things worse!
 
If I make the edit, will you roll it back?
 
At least, I'm trying to improve them.
 
1:58 AM
I'm also trying to improve the page.
 
@mickmackusa If you make it worse, of course.
@mickmackusa No, you are not.
 
Then I won't bother.
Yes, I believe I am.
 
Thank you.
If you aren't going to do things better, leave others to do so.
 
Do you have something against: "Remove all characters except digits, dots, and commas from a string"?
We merely have a clash of opinions. I do not accept your argument.
You believe your title is best. I believe my title is best.
 
2:16 AM
@Makyen When you are back online, please weigh in on the best title to help settle a rollback war. "Remove alpha and symbols but not numbers, periods and commas from a string" suggested by Braiam versus "Remove non-numeric characters (except periods and commas) from a string" suggested by others back in 2017 versus "Remove all characters except digits, dots, and commas from a string" which I am suggesting now. The question: stackoverflow.com/q/4949279/2943403
 
2:44 AM
@mickmackusa @Braiam The question has 190k views, while the one from the same year which is linked in a comment and which is about removing all non-numeric characters has 2k. That indicates this question is doing something right from an SEO point of view. In order not to mess that up, I'd retain the title from revision 5. You might add something to the title after that existing text "(e.g. some restatement, if you don't think it's clear)".
 
@Makyen The question is also heavily linked to / duped to / mentioned elsewhere on SO, not to ignore the age of the page -- so those factors will be major contributors to the high view count.
I am not opposed to changing a title if the change is an improvement. However, I am not in favor of Braiam's title because "numbers" are not included in "alpha and symbols" and "alpha" is an unnecessary abbreviation.
@Braiam With Makyen's feedback, would you be more in favor of rolling back to revision 5 or using "Remove all characters except digits, dots, and commas from a string". Of course, you can go with plan C where you agree to nothing; or plan D where you wish to poll more opinions on the matter.
 
3:04 AM
@mickmackusa There are, currently, only 9 questions on SE which link to that question, with four of those being duplicates, but none of the duplicates have no answers, so none of them would auto-forward non-logged-in users. While I'm sure those links contribute, search engines are, by a very wide margin, the predominate source for finding questions.
 
Okay. Well researched. As a matter of relatedness, if any of those questions have a "good title" and users are directed to the page that we are discussing -- that reach is certainly a factor.
 
@mickmackusa That proposed title is changed beyond what I'd suggest. I wouldn't mess with "Remove non-numeric characters (exlcuding periods and commas) from a string", although I'd at least fix the typo. You might want to add something. Perhaps "Remove non-numeric characters (excluding periods and commas) from a string (i.e. remove all characters except numbers, commas, and periods)".
 
I think I was confusing the discussed page with similar duplicate page that I was trying to delete and when I tried to cast my vote, there was a full page of related pages that were in the way.
@Makyen Please commit your recommended title to put this to bed.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica You are not supposed to give feedback for posts which you report.
 
@Makyen I wasn't the reporter in that instance
 
3:17 AM
Ooops... Waffles™
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Yep. Sorry. I saw the command in Charcoal HQ and didn't really trace the responses, other than that the reports started coming in. However, I think the waters were fairly muddy, as the reports appear to be a direct consequence of someone acting based on your SD command.
 
@Makyen Yeah, it was a weird sequence of events, maybe I shouldn't have added the feedback myself in that case.
 
I reported that after Queen caught your comment. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/51900820#51900820
 
Ah, yes, I was wondering if Queen would pick up on that, I know that's a keyword it looks for.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Honestly, it seems debatable, at most. Don't worry about it. Again, I'm sorry I made an issue of it.
 
3:33 AM
No problem
 
4:01 AM
What happens if I click "pre-order" on the april fools gag?
 
 
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5:19 AM
Opps, serial poster
@mickmackusa missing the link
 
Grrr. thanks
 
this is a link-only answer (NAA), but accepted to quickly and an upvote.
 
@RO please kill my link-less del-pls request
 
5:53 AM
@mickmackusa your credit-card is emptied
 
6:13 AM
@rene suspicion confirmed ...so glad I didn't click! :)
I was worried it would be that or my SO account would get a shaming "April Fool" badge like "Peer Pressure".
 
Oh, that would be a nice one for next year ....
 
^ I reckon mods should get comp'ed these as a Xmas time gift. (I want one)
 
@mickmackusa They could just make it swag :)
 
7:30 AM
Can any users confirm if this is Off-topic:Typo? stackoverflow.com/q/66896975/2943403
 
@Scratte You save $50 :D . Its save RS 5850.72 for me :)
 
7:45 AM
@Shree No. It's only $39.99. I save $50 From $89.99 :P
 
SO seems to be offline again
Must be too many people ordering...
 
@Nick Many people trying to bypass the copy protection, I assume :P
 
without downvote and quick closure how do we handle question like stackoverflow.com/questions/66900204/…. It's a repost of 2 day old question without the code and a rant. Do we have a nice meta that will explain everything.
 
@VLAZ Nice :) I love nr. 2 :)
 
7:48 AM
:)
 
7:59 AM
@VLAZ +1 for order :)
 
@Self it will roomba in 30 days, It just got closed
 
@rene But usually you'll close it as duplicate of their previous question (unless it was deleted), wouldn't you?
 
Yes
Or close as unclear / off-topic if no dupe exists. Or edit the rant out.
 
Anyone one can send those del request ?
 
Yes, but if Roomba will get it we prefer to let it be
or at least I do
to prevent that you think this is room policy
 
8:03 AM
I also prefer to let it Roomba (unless it really needs to go immediately, maybe in case of trollery or so)
 
@Self This should just be flagged as NAA (not an answer). No reason for a request here... Also these requests require the tag
 
Because you need 20k+ rep to be able to delete answers.
 
Yep it's Naa, but it seems to fail it's review. It went to first post/late answer and low quality. and survive
 
@Tomerikoo The tag is desired, but not required.
 
@Self The first LQ reviewer chose to edit it and so kicked it out of the queue. In such cases, you can post a flag-pls request in here.
 
8:10 AM
Ok. Noted. Was reading the socvr.org/faq. And wanted to see if I could get it right /
 
See Can I request people to vote or flag on posts I find? (in this case: "Requests to re-flag an answer are allowed, but only if your previously raised flag on the answer was invalidated (invalidation is usually due to an edit to the answer).")
 
8:27 AM
@rene I prefer to definitively delete posts that are rightfully deleted especially when a single upvote or the green tick will effectively block the roomba from doing its good work.
 
8:44 AM
Woa, have fun having fun. hopefully there is no language tag on those. Because it look like a good way to speed run downvote
 
 
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10:08 AM
 
10:27 AM
@mickmackusa So, you decided to go nuclear when things didn't go your way?
That only asks for more escalation of the conflict. I recommend you mick, that you reserve such action plan when you are going to make the things better. Now the title is unnecessarily long and verbose repeating the same keywords.
 
11:05 AM
 
@MrUpsidown Will be Roomba'd in a few days. What's the rush? ;)
 
You are my Roomba script :)
No sorry.. no rush, and I could not get that roomba script to run the other day... I should give it another try
 
@JeanneDark Nice spot. I reviewed that in LA just a few minutes ago and gave it NAA. Guess I need to be more thorough. Changed to a spam flag, now.
 
Thanks :)
 
@JeanneDark does it really?
 
11:20 AM
@desertnaut It's a question about SO
Or do you think it's on topic on SO, or belongs somewhere else?
 
@JeanneDark oh no, it's april 1st and we will deal with the crap it brings... :(
This isn't a very happy day.
 
@JeanneDark superficially, yes. But does it really belong there?
 
@desertnaut Where else? Migrate to MSO and close as duplicate
 
I mean., it does not belong here, for sure
 
well the migration failed so we can now delete it. At MSO we had a perfect dupe target, so yes MSO is fine for now.
 
11:22 AM
@Braiam So many close votes will be wasted on that
 
@JeanneDark "where else" is not necessarily the question here. We can always just VTC as not belonging here (without sending it somewhere else), and end of story
 
@desertnaut In the early days (in my early days) I saw a question about SO and flagged it as "Blatantly off-topic" since it would have to be closed on MSO, too (low quality, unclear). Upon my cv-pls request a mod told me that such posts are usually migrated to MSO anyway and then closed there. Since then, I flag such posts for migration to MSO.
 
@JeanneDark Ideally, we shouldn't create more work for ourselves.
Moderator only suggested that because they could do that single-handedly, mere mortals should be more effort sensitives.
 
@JeanneDark makes sense, if we think the post would be a legitimate one in MSO; but is this the case here?
 
Here it is: "BTW, for Meta questions, we typically migrate them to Meta anyway, even if we ultimately close them on Meta for being too broad, unclear, etc."
 
11:27 AM
That's why I don't use moderators as benchmark, they view the site totally differently.
 
Yes, that is also why we don't use you as a benchmark.
 
@JeanneDark yes, that would seem a legitimate question for MSO
@JeanneDark anyway, I will not insist (and it may very well be that I am wrong here)
 
@rene Nor should you :D
The benchmark we should all compare to is "creating a library of high quality programming questions and answer".
 
Listen folks, close vote april fools as you see fit. Migrating to MSO is fine, there are enough dupe hammers there and no shortage of meta close voters either. We'll be fine after 24 hours
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12:00 PM
Morning
 
12:11 PM
@NathanOliver o/
 
First of April
 
12:28 PM
this copypaste offer for $40 is very cool, I hope you all already have bought the tool :) I have 2 on the way already
 
Should something specific be done with this? It's NAA but also contains expletives. Not sure it's R/A, but if you edit them out, it's still NAA.
 
@JeanneDark That's just plain R/A.
 
There's nothing there that constitute an answer, just needs expedite removal.
 
Thanks
 
@JeanneDark I tried mentally editing out the expletives and got left with ... nothing.
 
12:35 PM
@Nick I ended up with, Who the framework committed this deprecated build.
 
@AdrianMole evidently my mind automatically treats "framework" as an expletive :)
 
hehe
 
12:56 PM
is this NAA? I see partial code and is it related to the question?
 
@SurajRao I formatted it and it still makes no sense...
 
Should we mod-flag multiple (very similar) NAAs from the same user? One even has an upvote.
 
@AdrianMole you can. Custom flags might take a while though.
 
Seems like an otherwise reasonable user, so maybe just let the LQPQ get the posts deleted.
 
@AdrianMole they seem to be trying to draw attention to their question in a completely inappropriate way. A comment under one or more of the posts might be helpful
 
1:17 PM
This one causes me some uncertainty (xD). Full disclosure but three near-identical posts, all plugging their 'product'.
 
@AdrianMole So, you've located the exact place of the posts, but you're now unable to find the rate at which they are posted?
 
@AdrianMole I also find suspicious that these are all new answers to very old questions and all have upvotes...
 
@Nick Possibly better to move this conversation into Charcoal HQ? cc @VLAZ
 
@AdrianMole sure, that's more appropriate if we're going to discuss a user
 
If anyone is interested, as we discussed about that here some time ago, I opened a tag abandon request for here.
 
1:42 PM
I am so excited about The Key by Stack Overflow , how to know the details about it?
 
Just tried to copy paste and forgot already about the prank. Was very worried for a sec.
 
@code11 with 3 button !!!
 
@EsTeAa OP has translated. Is it clear now?
 
@TylerH yeah, it is
 
mck
1:59 PM
We should probably have a special version of The Key for SOCVR - one more button of "pls": CVpls!
 
@TylerH @EsTeAa binning this request since it has been translated. You may re-request if it is close-worthy for another reason.
 
@mck It's a key combo C -> V -> Stack button
Also, if you just press V you downvote a post. You can rotate the keyboard 180 degrees and press the same button to upvote.
 
Never rotate
I mean, rotate once.
Until tomorrow.
 
If you rotate 90 degrees, it can skip items in the queues.
 
3:03 PM
I know they are from the same user... I am not targetting the user, but the google-maps tag...
 
@MrUpsidown If you are doing a target cleanup of a tag, that should be handled on meta.
 
The prank was spoiled for me (if I would ever copy paste today) by a post I stumbled upon :(
 
What does that mean?
I am not targetting the tag specifially today. I am doing that on a daily basis (almost).
Most of the questions in google-maps and other related tags are cleaned up by 2 people. Me and someone else. In other words, not enough to get the bad ones closed.
That's what I meant by "targetting the tag"
 
Anyone encounter any April fool posts yet?
 
@MrUpsidown Want some help cleaning things up? Actually you'll probably want someone who can actually CV...
 
3:36 PM
Oh I hate Aprils 1st.
 
mck
@MrUpsidown Well at least you got two, I'm cleaning up apache-spark/pyspark on my own essentially. Luckily there are many helpful people here, thanks a lot folks :)
 
@NathanOliver or any RO: does bringing up an entire tag for discussion on Meta (for retagging, burninating, etc), disqualify all requests with that tag? That seems to be the intent in the FAQ but I'm not sure.
 
I'm currently working on my burnination request ;)
 
You would probably get a few upvotes on Meta if you proposed that today :)
 
3:45 PM
@cigien whiles it's being discussed and worked non by meta yes. Now, if a stray Q makes it in because it's also tagged with other things, I'm not going to move it. The intent AFAIK is to just stop using the room as the work force for the cleanup.
 
@NathanOliver Ok, that makes sense. Thank you for the clarification.
@MrUpsidown If you keep making requests at the same rate as you were doing prior to posting the Meta discussion, it should be fine. I wouldn't increase the rate however. Standard caveat, this is just my opinion, and you should get a confirmation either way from an RO.
 
@cigien You will see an example of that shortly :D
 
@Braiam Sorry, I don't follow. An example of what exactly?
 
@cigien "bringing up an entire tag for discussion on Meta"
 
4:00 PM
@Braiam Oh, I see. If it's not linked in here, I'm probably not going to see it today. I plan on avoiding Meta for the next 8 hours :p
 
@cigien Are you prepared for going cold turkey? ;)
 
@cigien Probably Friday :D
 
@JeanneDark Good question, but the front page of MSO when I woke up was enough to put me off, so I think I'll be able to ;)
@Braiam Ah, ok then. Since you built it up, I hope it's a big one. 1000+ questions at least ;)
 
@cigien Those are baby numbers :D
 
Ooh, interesting. Looking forward to it :)
 
4:11 PM
@JeanneDark finally! It's 2021, if it doesn't end in ".js" you shouldn't use it.
 
take a coffee and laugh ;)
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Forget coffee, that sounds like a bargain!
 
M--
4:33 PM
What the hell is this: i.stack.imgur.com/zn6Pb.png Lamest April Fools' ever
 
M--
@VLAZ tweeting it would be something, a pop-up every time I copy is annoying as hell. I said don't show again the very first time!!!
@AnttiHaapala as I said, it was slightly funny the first time, but not after that
 
@M-- What? You copy code from SO?
 
5:01 PM
For the past year I had struggled with my broadband connection dropping every 2 hours. I never bothered to check the router. Today I checked it and it turns out I had DHCP lease time set to 2h.
I feel like a real IT guy now that I solved this issue
 
That would have driven me crazy.
 
It was a nice way of my PC telling me to take a break
 
@Dharman Wait, what? That is just how much time the lease is valid, your connection would drop at whatever interval you set it. Either your client or your server takes too much time to assign/ask for the lease.
But I'm not sure if the client should ask for a new lease before the new one expires, hmm.
 
@Braiam Yeah, I don't want to investigate which one is at fault here. I set it to 48 hours
I won't keep my PC running for 48h continuously so that should not be a problem anymore
Even if the new lease assingment takes 1-2 seconds, my VPN drops and then everything disconnects
 
@Dharman "I won't keep my PC running for 48h continuously" - Wait, what?
 
5:11 PM
I put it to sleep when I go to sleep
 
@Dharman Sleep? What is this strange word you mention? :p
 
@JonClements GMTA :)
 
@Dharman I ping you from SOBotics, did you see that?
 
I did, yes, thanks
 
@Dharman this is specially made for you
 
5:20 PM
I feel bad for mods. It feels like there must be a marked increase in red flags raised today :(
 
I also need ⊞ Windows key
 
6:03 PM
@Dharman That should be transparent for applications. Something weird is going on.
 
I don't know. It happens both with my laptop and desktop
 
M--
@Braiam just to reproduce errors and help noobz :-B
less than a week, so I am taking care of my system more than I used to...

`>systeminfo | find /i "Boot Time"`
`System Boot Time: 3/25/2021, 10:59:13 AM`
 
6:26 PM
➜ ~ uptime
14:26:34 up 21 days, 22:32, 1 user, load average: 4.25, 4.13, 3.67
?
 
@Dharman looks like one to me.
 
What is a good close reason for this? stackoverflow.com/q/4627180/1839439
 
@Dharman Instead of closing, ask a mod to histo lock it?
 
Code golf
And no, code golf questions where all deleted.
 
6:49 PM
Why would we keep it around?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
7:10 PM
@Dharman when I got a new laptop at work we had the same issue. DHCP leases were set to like 15 minutes or something ridiculously short by default when they were joined to our domain
@Dharman I would've said Too Broad for closure, but a historical lock is arguably acceptable too
 
8:01 PM
Is this spam?
 
@JeanneDark I threw a spam flag at it. It's a one rep user with no prior content, so it's hard to tell but nuking them wont really cause a problem.
 
Thanks!
 
@JeanneDark hard to say, either way should be wiped out
 
8:21 PM
@TylerH mind checking this meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/406467/578411 SOCVR was involved and you casted a re-open vote.
 
@rene Thanks, looking now.
I remember flagging the comments section for migration to chat but not reopening
OK, now I remember
 
8:38 PM
 
 
1 hour later…
My DHCP fix didn't work. I still got disconnected
 
@Dharman Quick the SysAdmin signal!
 
Interestingly the log on the server says "DHCPS:Recv REQUEST from 08..."
 
@Dharman That's normal when your lease expires.
 
but why did it expire? I set it to 48h
 
9:45 PM
Did the previous one expired?
 
no
it was valid until Satuday
I checked in ipconfig
 
Now that would be weird...
Could be that it is the router upstream dhcp server that has the same configuration?
 
upstream? you mean ISP?
 
Yup.
 
I don't know
 
9:58 PM
Well, the first thing to identify the problem is to isolate it. Put static IP in your system, and wait the two hours again.
 
or just use an ISP that gives you a static IP?
 
That would be next level :D
 
It's the private network that is causing the problem. My WiFi literally disconnects from the router. Static IP from ISP wouldn't help.
I will create static IP and will report tomorrow if the issue still occurs.
 
11:02 PM
Is this a case of an attempt to hide a question? After it received an answer, a dramatic edit was made, and then the question got deleted: stackoverflow.com/q/66907449/13552470
 
Nah, probably they realized that the question wasn't helpful and deleted it
 
Okay...
 
11:16 PM
Does this deserve R/A flag? stackoverflow.com/a/66912558/1839439
 
Had the same thought... really unsure on that one.
 
Ahh no
Why did it report automatically
So...I decided to flag it
Unregistered means that they posted it without creating an account.
 
ah, makes sense
@Dharman same now
 

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