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12:38 AM
@AdrianMole Haha, I had the same initial (few second) reaction. Dharman was, after all, the delete everything candidate.
 
As did I, and was prepared to disagree with it given my generally positive opinion of most of Dharman's deletions...and then found myself wholeheartedly agreeing with the post.
 
1:02 AM
Well, we're not supposed to discuss Meta posts in here, so I can't say that I think there's more to that post than meets the eye. (If I were allowed to, then I would have said it.)
 
@sideshowbarker Taking into account the title, it seems clear that they're asking if there's a way to share PHP session data between two domains, and the different folders are for the different domains.
 
@sideshowbarker Maybe duplicate of this? stackoverflow.com/questions/14611545/…
 
The Suggested Edits review queue has some major changes: For +, we can now see comments in the review; for -, we can no longer see the reputation of the editor.
 
@IanCampbell hmm, I'd buy that as a dupe (not an SME).
@AdrianMole I kind of like the latter, it forces you to evaluate it based solely on its content.
 
Honestly, I wasn't swayed that much by editor reputation. There are a lot of people that offer bad edit suggestions for those sweet +2s.
 
1:18 AM
I have an acute awareness (from experience) of what "Reject and Edit" actions can do when the proposer has 125 or more rep. They can revenge-vote my questions. So I skip.
 
Oddly, I've never had anyone do that to me for reviewing edits...though I've been vaguely conscious of the possibility.
 
I have no proof. Just strong hunches.
 
And I say this having approved 1333 edit suggestions and rejected 916 edit suggestions and improved 105 edit suggestions.
Though of course, you've got me beat, having approved 7217 edit suggestions and rejected 4693 edit suggestions and improved 2100 edit suggestions.
 
Oh good - my stats are improving (> 50% reject).
 
@AdrianMole I think your stats math is what needs improving, since that's just over 33% ;-)
 
1:23 AM
@RyanM D'oh! What I meant was more rejects than 50% of approves.
 
Third time's the charm :-)
 
hehe
Well, I knew what I meant.
... it's the wee small hours and I have no beer.
 
I had a guess that was what you meant, but wasn't sure if you'd instead misread the stats.
 
2:00 AM
@IanCampbell Yeah seems like it could be marked as a duplicate of that. Myself, I marked it needs-debugging-details — because it does lack those. So I think either that or dupe would be appropriate
 
 
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7:27 AM
Gah, I hate when I upvote something and then discover an error, but is to late to undo
 
@klutt Well, if you edit it to fix the error, you'll be able to remove your upvote. :;
 
@Makyen Yeah, I know, but is that really accepted?
Plus, I don't know the correct answer. I just know that the current is wrong :)
 
@klutt There's not really enough information here to really answer that. Although, the general preference is for correct solutions.
@klutt That would make it hard to fix it.
 
oh well
I guess it won't cause the sun to not go up tomorrow
If someone knows anything about time complexity: stackoverflow.com/questions/66345658/…
 
7:43 AM
@klutt took a crack at it
 
7:59 AM
@RyanM Thanks. I was in the wrong :)
 
If a question is not a question, does an answer that is not an answer become an answer?
 
@JeanneDark that...sounds very fact-dependent.
 
 
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10:17 AM
Does this question (NATO) have enough (debugging) details?
 
10:37 AM
hiya \o
 
\o
@JeanneDark I would say no. It looks like just the error message to me.
 
Thank you
 
 
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12:09 PM
What does white icon mean in the review list?
 
@Dharman the review item surrenders.
 
1:01 PM
Morning
 
1:27 PM
Dear Reviewers, Give a review about this ?
 
@user15070659 It's not an answer, but the whole question needs to go as it is off-topic
 
2:11 PM
well the new review queue layout is definitely going to make things a lot slower
for one the content doesn't start until over 50% down the viewport...
I'll see if I can't wrangle up some user styles to fix some of that
 
Am I the only one who's close vote button is broken? I knew asking would fix it!
 
no idea why the filter option menu is not a modal appearing above the page...
@Nick I was just able to close a couple questions
 
@rene no intention of antagonizing you on a meta thread, my comment seemed like an appropriate reference...
 
got a link to a question you're trying to close?
 
most recent meta, it's working now though, will put it down to some arbitrary network issue, ta
 
2:17 PM
@TylerH putting the user stats in between the text and the title causes my brain to to roll back...
 
Yeah, I am pretty sure the reason they are grabbing that info and displaying it the way they are is laziness
and not the good kind
The code for that that is "most portable" was the code to grab and display it on the questions list page
it's nearly a 100% copy
 
2:32 PM
@bad_coder it is a great reference. I'm at the top of that list. I'm awesome.
 
3:15 PM
@bad_coder Made some initial improvements (for me) to the review queue layout page: i.stack.imgur.com/wr4ss.png
 
3:31 PM
@TylerH Nice, but I would like HR between question and answer. Can this be submitted to SE? It looks better.
 
@Dharman sure I could bother to do that. I'm sure it will be shot down, though...
I will try to put some effort into making explanations for changes more... nice
 
@TylerH lol in that case it's the Jon Skeet stats that make my brain roll back more than the layout does...
@TylerH I still can't wrap my mind around having something in between the title and the body of the post...I have to think 3 times about what I'm looking at. I mean:1º title, 2º body of post (that's the way any text is supposed to be layed out.)
 
Oh yeah, lol that was me stress testing the width of the element to make sure it would fit when I was trying to place it elsewhere
but that required using JS to make it really behave nicely so I abandoned that for the first phase
@bad_coder Yeah, if I were bothered to remember JS, I'd write a user script instead, and I'd just make the layout the same as when you're viewing a question organically (e.g. usercard info at the bottom right of the question)
 
@TylerH I think at this point I've already forgotten more about JS than I would be able to actually learn again...
 
@TylerH a friend of mine has a +600 JS post from the early SO days...He was starting out and said:"I'd like to get a lot of rep but it's too much work and I don't know enough to post anything good." I told him:"sit down, search for (...) and write what I'm about to say..."
 
4:26 PM
@JeanneDark [not question; not answer] = [answer; question] <- it doesn't become an answer but it inverts the proper order of the array.
@Vickel someday I'll learn Telegram just to close half the questions I see about it.
 
:)
 
@rene ...or it could be people see:"flower :D, +1 :)"
 
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7:10 PM
@Dharman Added a border between question title and question body (which is what I assume you meant when you said 'between question and answer' i.stack.imgur.com/oVOn8.png
one of the things I did was hide the swap-option buttons to toggle between viewing the question and any answers (it's only visible on questions that have answers). I hid it because I don't really need to see answers when reviewing questions in the CV Queue
since they don't affect whether a question is close-worthy
in reality that border is now identical in thickness and color to the other grey HRs, I just hadn't fixed that when I took the screenshot
 
7:57 PM
I posted an answer with those CV Queue layout suggestions on the MSE post cc @bad_coder @Dharman. Regarding your concern, bad_coder, that's already part of a separate issue being tracked (I think it is the top or 2nd from the top answer currently on the entire post).
and boy do I hope they fix that... I've already been tripped up by looking at what apparently was a veteran in [html] and [css] asking a question about 'what is a div tag'
turns out that user actually was just the editor of the question...
 
8:15 PM
@TylerH Had already looked at it, I saw the activity on the main page. Seems like an excellent post, I will read it later tonight.
 
and there was much rejoicing
 
One of my key frustrations with how SE plans/does releases of things like the review queue change is that their schedules really assume that what they have is very close to where they should end up.
By the time SE puts changes out for people to try them out on some sites (and starting with sites where there can't be much feedback, because there just aren't many/any reviews on those sites), the release schedule is so tight that it really is just looking to fix bugs, rather than see if the changes need substantial alteration.
While SE has been responsive in some instances, and some SE employees have been great, it's routine for things to just continue to be rolled out, regardless of feedback and suggested improvements. I find that very frustrating. It often makes me feel that spending time looking for improvements and writing them up has little or no value, which substantially lowers my motivation to spend the time (sometimes large amount of time) to try things out and write up detailed feedback.
 
What happened to the close banner project? Did it get abandoned?
 
@Dharman Which project?
 
They were meant to fix the blue banners, right?
 
8:25 PM
@Makyen I've felt overwhelmed just from reading the threads...For me this is a hobby, SE's rythm is full-time job. Their planning is probably: "close problem asap, move on to next..." That's what most folks want on a project, see it finished move on. It probably isn't easy, from a managing POV, factoring in a large audience that may take considerable time to react. Open timings equate to budge.
 
@Dharman You mean SE make changes to the post notices? They've done some over the time since the main release of the new post notices, but changes have largely stopped. Do you mean changing the text which is displayed for each site specific close reason? If so, that part is coordination between Meta, Mods, and CMs for any substantial changes.
 
Ok, I thought they were planning something more. Something to make the experience more pleasant for people asking questions
 
@Makyen But think on the flip-side SE's rythm is full-time job and they have to deal with an overwhelming amount of hobbyists posting non-stop streams of rants...
 
Are you saying we make their jobs hard?
 
@Dharman not we in this room, but 10 million users (approximately) posting non-stop is probably overwhelming...
 
8:36 PM
@Makyen a large portion of this would be fixed if they just posted all their front-end UI design plans to ux.stackexchange.com first to solicit feedback from experts
but I wouldn't be surprised if they think themselves above that, and they might find it insulting
of course that's wrong; such feedback would be free and probably of quite high quality.
 
@TylerH Yes! I have often felt that would be a good idea, and that not doing so was a tragic waste of an available resource which is tailor-made to accomplish exactly something they need. Not using it costs them both money in engineering/developing time that they wouldn't need to spend, and lots of secondary impacts of not having as good a design as they easily could.
 
Yeah, they would win on multiple fronts: free high-quality feedback, and garnering goodwill from part of their community
that's basically how MSE/MSO feature announcements work anyway, except it's mostly programmers who give feedback.
instead of UX/UI experts
 
@TylerH I have no information available to comment on why they don't do so. While what you mention is a possible reason, and one easy to leap to, given their complete lack of taking advantage of an easy to use resource which is already part of their own business, I repeatedly try not to just leap to that conclusion.
@TylerH Yep.
@TylerH The primary problem is that the changes are announced either too early in the in the cycle/too vague or too late in the cycle (too solid/resistant to change), and/or they already have preconceived ideas or assumptions, which they, at best rarely, are willing to examine.
 
8:51 PM
@TylerH I do remember seeing a question on SO from a staff member (developer, IIRC). It was something to do with C# to C++ data marshalling. I seem to recall that I 'contributed' a comment. Don't know what became of it ... maybe I'll see if I can dig it out.
 
also the close vote modal in the queue is no longer draggable
that's annoying
 
^ I always thought sdk was a software development kit ... now I know better. ;-)
 
:-)
 
@TylerH no repo. I'm able to drag the CV modal, as normal. I tried both with and without userscripts. It works for me.
 
Hmm
ah
they share some markup
so my review mockup removes the part of the modal that lets you drag
somehow...
 
While I haven't looked at it, I'm tempted to blame the lack of semantic CSS classes.
 
yep
it's all style-based rather than content-based still i.stack.imgur.com/PEoas.png
 
Yep, sigh.
 
Can this be considered an answer? stackoverflow.com/a/66351003/1839439
 
9:55 PM
technically probably, but it's also definitely low quality IMO
 
10:11 PM
@Dharman Well, I've heard of Occam's Razor and Olbers' Paradox, but not imblearn's Pipeline?
 
10:34 PM
Hi, I answered a question which had a bounty - I received two upvotes later - but the bounty not, and the bounty is gone (???)
It was asked about a canonical answer
There is only one other answer which is from person who asked
 
@sidcoder Could we get a link? You should get half the bounty if the user didn't manually award it and you had at least a score of 2.
 
ok, maybe I got HALF the bounty. Anyway, I thought it will still show when a question has a bounty, also after answering it: No problem. You can have a look, but I suppose, it is okay then. My fault of wrong assumptions (I am rather new to SO): stackoverflow.com/questions/66187832/…
 
@sidcoder Okay. So what's going on here is after the bounty ends, there is a 24 hour grace period for the user to manually award the bounty. If they fail to do so, then you will automatically get half the reward. Since your answer was accepted, that changes and you'll instead receive the full amount. So, in about 20 hours, you should see the full award as long as the OP doesn't unaccept your answer.
 
@NathanOliver Thanks for your support on this.
 
No problem
 
11:48 PM
 
Should a requirements dump be reopened if the OP is looking for someone else to do their work for them and has no intention on editing the question to show effort? stackoverflow.com/questions/66331860/…
 
Does this Q seem POB?
 

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