@halfer what would be the advantage of undeleting that one? the new one already has a a few answers, the deleted answer might be useful but nothing stops the poster from posting it again under the new question, if they want. Undeleting would create a situation with an instant dupe, with answers in both places. While it sucks the OP deleted an answered question and reposted, undeleting seems to create more issues than in it solve.
Maybe better a custom flag to merge those two questions, to salvage the deleted answer?
@yivi Not deleting a question when it has a good answer is a point of principle for me. In the past I have sometimes flagged for mod, explained the self-deletion goes against the spirit of the site, and it has been undeleted.
I'm not familiar with merging questions - do I just flag for mod and link to the two Qs?
I recently got the delete vote privilege and wanted to ask what is the policy regarding deleting duplicates? Where do we stand with the flag-post philosophy and all that?
@AdrianMole Exactly the reason to my question: Also, be cautious when deleting questions closed as duplicates; they can serve as a signpost, directing users to useful answers on another question.
What's the criteria to when a duplicate should (or can) be deleted?
So, if the question is well-presented and has a 'good' title (i.e. one that may get Google hits), then it's likely a good signpost. If it's been around for a long time and has very few views, then it's likely a poor signpost.
Sometimes, a question title is along the lines of, "Why does my program keep crashing?" and it's a duplicate of an "array out-of-bounds" canonical. That title/question is not a good signpost.
But feel free to discuss possible delete candidates in here, without making a formal [del-pls] request.
The 10K "delete vote" is a powerful privilege! Please don't be too enthusiastic about wielding it. We only really want to remove content that is harmful. Also, bear in mind that many poor/duplicate questions have good answers ...
@klutt Yeah I agree that's my initial thought too. My problem with that is that people can get creative so sometimes a weird title might actually be useful for someone else somehow searching the same
@AdrianMole No worries there. I'm still overwhelmed with my new powers and this is why I'm consulting with you legends here ;)
I think the idea of the Triage + H&I queues was to allow those without full edit rights to contribute usefully to reviewing what would otherwise be in "First Posts" (hence, moved to Triage, where they can send it to H&I for others to edit). Otherwise, having those folks make an edit just moves the reviewed posts into the (often clogged-up) Suggested Edits queue.
@JeanneDark I guess Triage itself is the root of the problem. No! The root-cause of the problem is all those dumb folks asking questions in the first place. ;)
Instead of a fat first post with tons of possible actions, you got triage with limited options and down the pipeline you had the close queue, the H&I and the homepage.
@Braiam Also by design. Eg. you're supposed to send it to the appropriate queues but also have to take actions like flag (two buttons for this action alone), so you need to know what's on- and off-topic and enough flags per day. And even if you do, if the others don't, your flags are disputed and close-worthy posts remain open.
@JeanneDark The easiest to visualize the queues is doing it on a vacuum. You don't care what happens to the question after, you only deal with the information and tools presented to you.
You only have 4 possible actions, you read the post and evaluate which action should be done with it. That's all you are supposed to do in triage. Give evaluations to the post presented.
Actually, I wouldn't mind a "Requires Editing" option in First Posts. Sometimes, I can see that a question is salvageable by some extensive editing, but I have neither the time nor the inclination. I can only "Skip" ... but sending it to H&I would be a reasonable compromise.
A user that acquired the privilege, shouldn't know (and shouldn't care) to which queue the post would fall into. They should only be worried that they evaluate the question correctly. It's the onus of the system designers to make sure post reach the right place.
@Braiam It would be fine if that's all you had to do. But you have to take actions if you believe something's wrong with the post and flag it. In the end you just waste time and flags.
But there is still a problem with the CV queue for those merely flagged, as opposed to those with votes. I see relatively few where I am the first reviewer in CV.
Maybe turn Triage into a captcha queue. You don't review posts, you solve captchas and receive batches if you solve enough. Also a pointless chore but not harmful to SO.
Overall, though, I'm still not convinced the extra Steward badges are a good thing. Let's see what washes up in terms of review suspensions, et cetera.
@klutt just reviewed the lot of the privacy posts and it's a real joke.
@klutt I read one today:"we trust our dear mods"...Well there's a problem with that, I know a couple of mods personally and wouldn't trust them to hold my beer.
@Dharman Well, I think that things should be a allowed to point out. And for myself, I do not take it personally as long as there's no rude language in it. Just avoiding sugar coating does not count.
@Dharman My comment was "Seriously, the edits you made did not improve anything at all.". On the edge to a bit harsh maybe, but I would not say that it's rude. Sugarcoating diminishes the message. But it would be way over the line to say something like "Hey, wtf are you doing? Stop destroying the posts!"
I added "I understand you want to help, and that's good, but those edits really did not improve stuff. And now when you have the amount of rep you have, your edits will not go to a review queue, so be careful with your edits. " to smooth it out