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1:51 AM
@DragandDrop I just saw a custom comment flag from you. I assume it's the same issue you were asking in here about the other day, users leaving a bunch of comments linking to their personal blog? That's not even a borderline appropriate case to me. It isn't a resource that is directly relevant to the question. I'm going to clean all of those up. Thanks for the notice!
 
 
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@HovercraftFullOfEels oh my @HovercraftFullOfEels sorry, copy paste is my weakness. Here's the link: stackoverflow.com/questions/65725665/…. All 8 candidate dupes in the comments.
 
 
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6:08 AM
Should I flag this as NAA? It contain the answer, but also a follow up question
 
Maybe edit it.
And also vote to close the question.
 
I'm not sure how to edit it correctly (And also close voted)
 
@AlonEitan Basically, just remove the question part, leaving the answer part. No worries, though. I've edited now.
 
Thanks Cody
 
I even corrected a typo. :-\
 
6:17 AM
You know that editors don't share the rep. from upvoted posts, right? ;-P
 
I thought as a moderator, I shared in the rep from everything that gets posted.
 
Hmm. Feature request?
 
It'd end up being implemented so that we also got all the downvotes.
 
lol
 
Seems reasonable.
 
6:46 AM
Tag spamming is sometimes a good thing?
 
@AdrianMole there is a pending edit to remove the tag
 
@AdrianMole Because it gets questions closed faster? Meh.
 
@SurajRao Hm.. I was wondering about that.. the question is gonna Roomba anyway
 
I was voting to close as that dupe, anyway. With or without a hammer.
 
7:09 AM
Looks like a very poor attempt at spam, TBH.
 
Yea
Better nuked
 
is suspicious :)
 
@AdrianMole Interesting. OP added the tag back before deleting the question.
 
@CodyGray Oh, you mean the OP clicked that, because the button is confusing?
 
7:22 AM
@cigien Yes. Part of it is speculation, but not much of a leap.
 
@Shree Unhealthy, even. :p
 
@CodyGray Yeah, it's a reasonable guess. I can't think of a better explanation for that rollback.
 
Maybe so I could unhammer it?
 
7:38 AM
Ah, giving you a chance to change your mind. Very kind of them.
 
@AdrianMole :D rene treat unhealthy [tag: medical]
 
8:10 AM
@Shree migrated to health.se ...
 
8:53 AM
@Ruli That target is not correct. It only answers how to read int input, which the OP already knows. This question is about using datetime.
 
@cigien maybe you are correct, then the question is unclear because there was no input type described, but how do you know OP knows how to read int when there is no mention about that?
but according the use of the variable in timedelta, I assume they need it as integer, which they do not load from input
 
@Ruli I guess I don't know if the OP knows how to read an int. There might be lots of things the OP doesn't know. Nonetheless, the question seems very clear to me. It's probably a dupe. The current suggested target is definitely not it though.
 
9:09 AM
Well I'll leave it here because in my view it is definitely a correct target, they read it as string and submit it to datetime function to a parameter that expects int (number of hours), so converting input to int will solve it
 
9:26 AM
@Ruli Ok, they definitely need to convert the input to int, so I guess the target could be used to close the question.
 
9:47 AM
User doesn't understand Q&A system and posts 9 answers - does this warrant a mod flag, or...? stackoverflow.com/q/65776142
 
10:06 AM
@Siguza What would you want a mod to do? Strange that these are technically 2 accounts. Are these even answers or did they just post some random project (I also spot Java code there)?
 
@Siguza yeah, custom mod-flag that and explain they add many low quality answers. spread over possible two accounts. Posting lq stuff is a suspension reason IIRC.
down voting all those answers will get reversed due to serial voting ...
 
Or, if room members start downvoting them, then SOCVR gets whacked.
 
10:22 AM
We know how to behave properly
 
Speak for yourself! ;-P
 
10:46 AM
@rene yeah, ended up doing that
@JeanneDark damn, I didn't even spot the fact that it was 2 user accounts... I'd assume to get around some system-imposed rate limiting?
 
Or perhaps they lost the login credentials of their first account (no, both still active). Very strange.
 
Funny. I seem to remember hearing about a daily limit of 8 Qs or As at some point in the dim and distant past (and that would make sense in this case).
There was a case we watched live, in here (just over a year ago?) where a user went potty and started posting loads of questions. Stopped at 8 and a certain Cherished Moderator said something along the lines of, "Thank goodness for the cap!" (along with other expressions, like "Aaaarrgggh!")
 
11:57 AM
Would this question be OK, or is it too-broad? stackoverflow.com/questions/65676448/…
 
12:19 PM
Hi @Dalija, life treats you good I hope? Or do you want me giving it a serious reminder to do so? ;-)
 
I have a verbatim reposting of a Q closed and self-deleted; should I CV again for the same reason (details & clarity), or raise a custom flag?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ All is good :)
 
@desertnaut I've seen others handle such situations by leaving a comment (with a link to the original) and then voting to close as a dupe. But that may be tricky, if you don't have the link to the deleted post. (Or with the same close reason as the original.)
 
@DalijaPrasnikar Great! Same for me :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ the only way its should be :)
 
12:29 PM
I am also confident that things will even become better.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ they can hardly get any worse
 
@AdrianMole I do have the link and have left a comment, but (I think) I cannot VTC as a dupe when the target is deleted, right?
anyway, I am posting here...
 
No. That's why I added the last bit in brackets. VTC for the same reason - OP may take the hint.
 
This is a General computing question right? stackoverflow.com/q/65857153/11573842
NLN for the comment ^^
 
12:41 PM
@Yatin Verging on rude but NLN is also true.
 
BTW can I edit the Perl tag in the question of the latest SD report?
 
@Yatin To add Perl? I've noticed that Raku is the new name for Perl - is that your point?
 
Oh.. I didn't know that
 
One of those things I picked up doing Edit reviews. :-)
... I think "Perl 6" is Raku.
 
:)
 
12:45 PM
Still looking for something constructive I've learned doing Close Vote reviews, though.
 
@AdrianMole More like Perl >= 6 is Raku
 
@Braiam I'll need to do more reviews, then.
 
Is my understanding that Perl is doesn't get any more development.
 
1:48 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I think your duplicate closure here is wrong. Even without using namespace std; there is still a problem with name conflicts for the count function. Perhaps a moot point, though - OP has self-deleted.
 
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2:30 PM
Maybe a historical lock makes sense for the above also?
Hmm, it's not contentious though. So it only fits three of the four criteria specified here.
 
@AdrianMole Well, the dupe should make the OP aware, that there are things like naming conflicts, and what can cause them, no? A bit moot anyways, yes.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sure, a link to that canonical would be good. But that isn't the cause of the problem in that question. The only difference in the 'fixes' would be calling ::count() in one (OP's) and std::count() in the other (better). There were also other issues in that code.
 
3:37 PM
@Yatin I believe they want to have it done in python, it is very poor post but not request for resource
 
4:28 PM
So I asked after all about the edits on deleted posts on meta SE, an aparently it seems that such edits should be treated such as regular, if are helpful approve, else reject. Just if somebody was curious :)
 
Is it plausible to imagine an answer that flagged results in an NAA flag being marked helpful but a VLQ flag declined? Is that a plausible scenario (not counting misclicks or something)? What would be the characteristics of such an answer?
 
@JeanneDark That would probably depend very heavily on the mod who handles the flag, one mod might consider a question posted as an answer to be NAA while not VLQ, while another mod might consider it to be both
 
Even such a question posted as an answer would fit the VLQ description:"This answer has severe formatting or content problems. This answer is unlikely to be salvageable through editing, and might need to be removed."
I get what you're saying and this is the only scenario I can think of, but the answer would have to be removed anyway and at least the flagger didn't bother mods with a custom flag. So declining a VLQ flag and deleting the post anyway feels strange. I wonder what could be the reasoning for such an action.
 
 
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6:46 PM
@Vickel More generous to close as a duplicate than to try to knock back an unattempted question with Needs More Focus / Seeking Off-site Resource. Certainly downvote-worthy though.
 
@mickmackusa I've seen your duplicate and yes you are right, should have taken the time to look for it myself
 
7:05 PM
@mickmackusa are these comments really necessary? They aren't nice at all
 
@oguzismail I think explaining my actions is more considerate than not explaining my actions.
 
@oguzismail Sure, they're not nice, but they're not not nice
 
They can be deleted. My downvote can be reversed. It doesn't matter, the multi-duplicate page should be destroyed.
If I recall correctly, that answerer had written more comments, but I think they have been deleted.
 
@mickmackusa That I agree with
@Nick I think they are not nice
 
Cool, I disagree :p
 
7:19 PM
This won't be the last time that someone finds my "straight talk" to be "not nice".
I am not putting the answerer down. I am explaining my actions and asking the answerer to think more deeply about when answering is appropriate. There is no name calling, nor any written abuse. I even tell the answerer that the answer is complete and correct.
 
@Nick And what do you think about this one, urging OP to remove their question. Not not nice, but not nice either. I don't like that tone and those stupid emojis
 
Idk, I'm <10k, but I expect again, as long as it's not not nice, I don't see a problem
 
@mickmackusa Answering a question is always appropriate, this is a Q/A site
 
I wasn't urging anyone - I was suggesting. Sorry to hear you don't like smilies.
 
@Nick Ugh
I don't like them at all, esp. ;) this one
What does it even mean
 
7:29 PM
@oguzismail I VERY MUCH disagree with you on that philosophy.
 
It's a wink ...
 
Why would you wink in that situation?
 
So that people don't accuse tink of being "not nice" while doing the right thing and helping to curate good lean content.
 
And I think that suggesting the removal of a post when he's happy with the fact that my "duplicate" resolved his issue is totally appropriate. His suggestion of self-answering or me making my dupe link an answer are imho both not in the spirit of Stack Overflow. And yes - what @mickmackusa says. Being friendly in telling him to get rid of the acknowledged dupe.
 
@mickmackusa Curation doesn't have to involve pestering everyone with lengthy meta commentary
 
7:33 PM
I don't use emojis and have a stoic avatar, so my comments are often misconstrued as "not nice".
Well, the alternative to explaining my actions is to post no comments. I absolutely hate no-comment-downvotes, so I endeavor not to use them on others. Again, my goal is to get the answerer to think more deeply about their volunteerism and to improve their answering philosophy.
 
"pestering"? "lengthy"?
 
@tink Appropriate maybe, but not necessary at all. We could close it, and it'd be roombad later. There's no point in urging OP to delete the Q
 
The page (where tink closed) qualified for the roomba, yes. But the new asker there did not know the best way to resolve the page. Tink provided information. There is no abuse happening here.
 
I disagree in this case. He asked whether he should self-answer. That, uncommented, would have extended the exposure. Telling him not to do that was the right thing to do. And giving him the option to do it himself rather than having it spontaneously combust along with his (possibly accepted) self-answer would be a far more unpleasant experience.
 
^agree (...oh, I am just realizing that the page wasn't hammered closed, but a dupe close vote was applied)
 
7:41 PM
Duplicates with accepted answers aren't deleted automatically, 3 users, or one mod, should vote to delete. And if a question doesn't cause any harm, why delete it?
In that case, not responding at all would be the best
in my opinion
 
As I said: I disagree, and I stated my reasoning. Now it's time for a trail run before it starts raining again =D
 
@mickmackusa I think you can do that without mentioning that you'll get the page deleted.
 
@oguzismail I do not threat that I will delete the page. I am stating the inevitable. The redundant page adds no new value to Stack Overflow and will be sensibly deleted. I am stating facts, not threats.
 
That really sounds like a threat in that context :D
 
@oguzismail then you are manufacturing something more than what is written in my words.
@oguzismail I think the point that we disagree on is "does a question/page cause harm". You may be completely tolerant of Stack Overflow amassing loads of redundant pages. I do not want this for Stack Overflow. My goal is for Stack Overflow to be a "researcher's paradise". When I am researching I want to know all my options so that I can select the best one. When my options are on 1 or 2 pages, I can collate that info pretty easily.
When my options are spread out over 15 pages, this is extremely tedious. I want more "good eggs" in "fewer baskets".
When new redundant questions are answered instead of closed, we risk not honoring older and better vetted insights. We need to be better leverage our older pages.
When old pages are revisited with new eyes, Stack Overflow enjoys content that is more likely to be true, good, and up-to-date.
 
7:51 PM
Ahh yes, all the mysql_* pages
 
All this while, I am not telling you @oguz that your philosophy is wrong. You are absolutely free to have your own philosophies. I am just justifying mine (and hoping to color yours). I participate in this room because other people's philosophies color mine.
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@Dharman that is, indeed, quite the mountain fix.
 
 
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