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12:00 AM
@CodyGray Hmm, you're responding to messages without reading the whole transcript again, aren't you? Fair enough, there's quite a lot to catch up on.
 
@Unihedron This is not going to be handled in this room. Please flag as NAA or if this is happening too often then use custom mod flag
 
I see, thanks. didn't there used to be a SO tavern?
 
@cigien Yes :-) Feel free to stop me.
@cigien That's off-topic because it's a licensing question. It's not opinion-based, though. I found a dupe (which was itself closed as off-topic).
 
@Unihedron There still is - but that's not a place to bring up flaggable issues, either.
 
12:02 AM
Not sure, but without a link we can't flag. If you see it happening then flag it. We can't do more than that.
 
@CodyGray I wouldn't dare :)
 
Please don't use this room for things that should be dealt with using a moderator flag, @Unihedron.
 
I would mod-flag that, for sure. Third identical non-answer!
 
No one in here can do anything to resolve the problem. You need a moderator for that. There's no point in discussing it.
 
Dragged my mouse
 
12:03 AM
@CodyGray the thing is, I saw it in the LA queue and already flagged it NAA, going to the post I am locked from casting moderator flags since I already flagged it. if I redact my NAA flag will I be able to re-flag it?
 
@Unihedron Yes.
 
Thank you
 
I think. You can replace a normal flag with a red flag (R/A or Spam) for sure. I fairly sure that also works for moderator flags.
 
@Unihedron You always have the option to cast a custom moderator flag on a post no matter how many flags you retract (assuming you still have flags left for the day). Retracting a flag on a post will prevent you from casting the same type of flag on it again (with spam & rude/abusive counting as the "same type" for this purpose).
@AdrianMole It does. Very helpful when you mess up the Markdown syntax :-)
 
Just make clear in your flag text that it's a repeat post, on the same question. If the mod who handles your flag is the same as the one who deleted, I'm sure it'll get marked as helpful. Or any mod, really.
 
12:08 AM
@Unihedron Since you're 10k+ you could flag one of the deleted posts.
 
@RyanM I've been meaning to say, I noticed you referenced a sandwich characteristic from where you're from some time ago. Well, if I understand it right and you guys put grilled pepper and rapini in your sandwiches you are certainly doing it right in terms of ingredients.
@RyanM you gave us a hint to where you're from by saying how a sandwich is called there (happens I have a friend from your hometown).
 
@bad_coder I'm afraid I've forgotten exactly what I said, but I'm not sure I've ever had a sandwich with rapini in it. Though I do like it as an ingredient in general.
 
@AnnZen Can you stop bringing this up and just move on? Thanks.
@cigien In truth, licensing concerns like this are not your responsibility, and they are not even moderators' responsibility, to enforce.
Also... can we not discuss other rooms in here? Thanks.
 
@CodyGray Thanks!
 
@RyanM you gave us a hint to where you're from by saying the name of a sandwich from there (by chance happens I have a friend from your town.)
 
12:13 AM
Nawlins muffuletta!
 
Ah, hmmm... well, I can't find any instance of me mentioning cheese steaks, hoagies, or dutch crunch... :-) (two different locations there, one past and one current)
 
@RyanM so I looked up the sandwich and was pleasantly surprised by the grilled peeper, apparently on occasion it can include rapini and I found that honestly impressive.
 
@bad_coder The location in his profile is another hint
 
@RyanM maybe you called it a "grinder"...
@IanCampbell ahh, but it wasn't a Cali sandwich he was talking about :D @RyanM I think I just found it again.
 
@halfer I tried to improve that a bit, but I don't know enough about Outlook to know if it's still too broad
@bad_coder I have definitely not referred to a sandwich as a grinder :-) the region-specific term from where I grew up is "hoagie"
 
12:23 AM
@RyanM strange, when I called the hint you gave (over 2 months ago) google gave a type of sandiwich typical to Philadelphia but I think it wasn't a "hoagie" (nor a "Cheesesteak") or maybe my google hit mislead me...Well any, grilled pepper and rapini in a sandwich seems brilliant (I always have those on the side.)
 
"In the Philadelphia area, the term grinder is also applied to any hoagie that is toasted in the oven after assembly, whether or not it is made with traditionally hot ingredients." (according to Wikipedia)
 
Interesting! Never had one of those myself.
 
@CodyGray yeah that was it, but somehow Philadelphia was pinpointed (I'm feeling kindda stupid right now, but I'm not a sandwich specialist.)
 
@RyanM I've never heard the term, either. Not that I grew up in Philadelphia, but I've known people from all different places.
@bad_coder You're safe from judgment; none of us are sandwich experts, either. :-)
 
I don't eat meat, so I don't get into it, but people in Philadelphia seem to be very particular about their hot meat sandwiches.
 
12:28 AM
@IanCampbell you're a Vegan :O
 
It's hard to escape the dairy and eggs.
 
@IanCampbell that's fact, I go to Vegan restaurants with friends and the dairy/eggs issue always comes up. Especially if I order a custom meal in advance.
 
I wonder if I am the only one that can't stop looking for that perfect duplicate. But it feels so good when you finally find it.
Basically I'm just looking for an excuse for spending 30 minutes looking for a duplicate.
 
@IanCampbell I suppose that's a gold badge thing to some degree, the guys at Python chat keep a shortlist...
 
12:42 AM
Wow, that's fancy.
 
I just use Google. It maintains a great catalog for me.
 
My favorite is still SO search + tags + keywords.
 
12:57 AM
@bad_coder Stop that self flagellation, it's not healthy.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You have to be a bit more specific in your search terms...
 
@CodyGray Sure. I have that site open, and add search terms as questions come up in the tag ;-)
A few are usually enough
 
2:23 AM
@mickmackusa Why does that need to be more focused? It's asking how to find the largest divisor of N from a list of numbers.
 
@Dharman Congrats!I guess we'll be seeing a lot fewer tag:cv-pls from you :)
@Machavity I want one of those too!
 
2:43 AM
@cigien You will see from the deleted answer that the solution is collection of smaller techniques which are very likely all duplicate questions (if someone wanted to piecemeal a bunch of duplicates together). If the OP would have posted a shred of code, then it is possible that we could have pointed them to a singular dupe that fixed a singular error. This leads back to the meta question of whether we should close with multiple duplicates or just close as Too Broad.
I show lenience to questions that bother to lift a finger. For "giv me tha codez" questions, no punches are pulled.
 
2:54 AM
@mickmackusa I haven't looked at the answer/s, and I don't intend to. I don't see why the OP needs to post any code for a "how-to" question, when it's clear and answerable. As for multiple dupes, perhaps you're suggesting that it could be closed with a combination of "how to check if a number is divisible by another?", and "how to check a predicate for all values in a list?". I'm not too comfortable with that dupe closure, but I could perhaps be persuaded otherwise.
I'm going to ignore the part about your dislike for no effort "giv me tha codez" questions, since that has nothing to do with whether this question should be closed. Lack of effort is not a close reason. I'm happy to discuss your views on no effort questions separately, and at a later time.
 
3:24 AM
I hate when I open a post to find I've already CVd it. Wait....
 
@cigien My personal beliefs around questions which show positively no effort (categorized as "Help Vampirism" or "Requirements Dumps") were prolific in the early days of SO, but times have changes and resources abound now. There is nothing unfair about asking users to prove that they have at least taken 1 step in trying to solve their problem.
I don't even need to see "broken code" or "actual code", but I want SO to impress upon users that effort is expected. I treat my own children with the same care, BECAUSE I don't want them to grow up to be wholly dependent on others. This, VERY EASY criteria to satify, puts human beings on a growth trajectory.
By referencing existing resources that failed to resolve your problem, you build clarity around where you are stuck. Yes, this was originally annoying for my children when they asked me a question, then I issued them a sequences of "debugging" questions when all they really wanted was the answer. After some time, they realized that I was going to ask for details and their attempts to self-solve before I gave an answer. Sometimes, they even self-solved before asking me.
This is our ultimate goal! I am just offering the same care and support to strangers that I extend to my own loved ones.
Primates naturally groom one another -- I'm just getting my primate on.
 
3:52 AM
@KenWhite This seems like a "how to use the developer tool" question, rather than customer service. (contrast with "will my app be rejected if I ______?" or "why was my app rejected?")
 
Is this a troll question: What is a master programmer??
 
@RyanM Not sure I agree entirely, but OK. Can a mod or RO remove chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/51410897#51410897
 
Thanks! It looks like the rare on-topic Play Console question to me.
(also cc @Machavity as last active RO)
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
4:54 AM
recent AOS post edited, unsure if it now qualifies for reopen stackoverflow.com/questions/65803089/…
 
Personally I wouldn't vote to reopen that post, the example is too generic IMO
 
Can a runnable js snippet be embedded in the question to create a concrete mcve? I don't do a lot of js questions so I'm going to step in (plus I am at work right now).
If the question needs to contain more or different details, then it would be nice for someone to comment under the question to provide this insight so that the OP doesn't just feel that the "door has been shut and locked" on them.
 
I left a brief comment but I am no Javascript person so it's necessarily vague
 
@AlonEitan is also a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/a/19734954/2943403
 
Indeed
 
@oguzismail JSON is a small tag?
@eyllanesc Yes, it was; thanks. I've handled that now. A custom mod flag is probably best, in cases like that.
 
@CodyGray is a small tag, not everyone who knows what JSON is also knows about JQ
 
Ah. Isn't it just an abbreviation for jQuery? ;-)
 
5:36 AM
Gosh, no. JQ is a command-line tool. People tag jQuery questions with JQ all the time though
 
If only there was a way to provide a short little description to accompany each tag.
@mickmackusa Meh, yeah. The answer is accepted, so it's been seen. I probably should have just deleted when I closed.
 
^ Not sure if there's anything 'new' in that last SD report, but it's not spam, anyway.
 
@AdrianMole The answer was posted 5 minutes ago. That's why it got scanned.
Oh, wait. That's not what you meant by "new".
 
Smokey was confused by the lack of code fences. But what I meant was that I'm not sure the answer adds anything to the previous ones.
 
5:51 AM
... which was perhaps an irrelevant remark?
 
I prefer irreverent remarks over irrelevant ones.
 
Can I do both?
 
The irreverent remarks are only penetrating when they're relevant.
 
6:14 AM
^ the user must have fallen on their keyboard. safe to delete.
 
I think you'd have to be sleep walking to manage to post that inadvertently.
 
It oddly resembles text messages that I get from my brother. I often ask him to stop typing with his elbows.
...I wonder how it Google translates.
 
I already tried. It couldn't detect
 
At least on a QWERT keyboard "shaub" is pretty far apart. I think that's pretty good evidence it's intentional.
 
6:20 AM
That looked somewhat like Hindi but I can't really make sense out of it
 
@Antti Surely has a canonical page for the difference between assignment and comparison operators, right? (I don't code in C.) It would be more informative to point the asker to an informative resource so that they know where it is in the future instead of Typo & expressing via comments.
 
@mickmackusa /s/brother/dog
 
@Yatin I can't say I agree with that assessment at all. ka is the only word that would be Hindi, and given some random text, I'd expect that to happen by chance fairly often.
 
I found the translation.
Can't post it here
It is abusive
 
...the suspense is agonizing.
 
6:25 AM
@mickmackusa can you come here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq
 
@Yatin I find this chat room to be amazingly eclectic and ridiculous in what they will spend time doing! I never want to leave -- what if I miss something cool.
 
Lol can relate
 
Google translate has let me down not having Tagalog language. Good find Yatin.
 
I'm pretty sure Google Translate does have Tagalog...
 
6:32 AM
 
Oh, it's called "Filipino".
And... ninja'd by Ryan.
 
Disclaimer: I am utterly unfamiliar with the linguistics of that region and simply going off Wikipedia here
 
"What that said, Google translate tends to be very literal and does not take context into account. The same phrase or very nearly the same, can mean something entirely different depending on who is saying it and who they are saying it to. " Is this not true of ...most languages?
 
No, it is not. It is true of all languages.
(Sorry, I was being very literal and failing to take context into account.)
 
6:36 AM
Interestingly, when I pasted the text of that post, it autodetected Filipino but didn't translate anything. Maybe it was trying to protect me.
(Yes I'm anthropomorphizing a web service)
 
Have any of you been to the Philippines? Ex-pats call it "The Land that Logic Forgot". Think Rodrigo Duterte.
 
I don't think it means anything, so that kind of makes sense.
 
@mickmackusa 99.9 % of time people know the difference, they just "didn't notice"
 
@AnttiHaapala I cannot disagree with you there.
 
While true, that isn't a reason not to close as a duplicate.
 
6:40 AM
And we can't possibly set up canonicals for all combinations of typos and related misunderstandings. C and C++ are designed to encourage such, I think. :-)
 
yes that, it is hard to find the typo Q/As because they were downvoted 10 years ago as well :D
 
7:17 AM
Good Morning, one question I am reviewing suggested edits and there did a guy translate an question which was written in russian to english. Shell I approve this or flag the guys question?
 
@Alex Generally, we don't recommend translating people's questions. I would reject the edit suggestion with a link to this FAQ: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/297673
If the edit was already approved, it's not a big deal, though. You don't need to raise a flag to have the edit rolled back by a moderator. (Unless you think it's not a legitimate attempt at a translation. But then you're in a different case, as you would be for any harmful edit.)
 
@Alex btw is that question closed?
 
I don't think it being closed really changes anything in this case.
 
If it wasn't closed then we can close it :p
 
Heh, right.
Good point.
If it's not already closed, you should definitely raise a flag on it to recommend closure while handling the suggested edit.
 
7:32 AM
 
7:56 AM
 
8:38 AM
@karel I think you need to \escape those square brackets
make[1]: ***test (source: [make\[1\]: ***test](https://stackoverflow.com))
 
 
1 hour later…
 
@JeanneDark Looks like that tag is an entire repository of off-topic questions...
 
10:11 AM
 
10:24 AM
^ NAA for that answer
 
10:43 AM
 
11:02 AM
@yivi Are you ok with closing it like this?
 
@tripleee it seems like an attempt to answer
 
@oguzismail no doubt, but it seems to attempt to answer a different, much more basic question with a very vague off-site link
 
Would you consider this NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/65807532/2359227
 
maybe on closer reading it's actually a fair attempt
 
@TomerShetah Hm.. one of those cases where I just leave a comment but don't flag
 
11:25 AM
@Yatin Yeap :) I put it here in case someone else wants to take the chance and might end up with a declined flag
 
Lol :p
 
@TomerShetah It is an answer, but uses poor English grammar
 
11:39 AM
@tripleee yeah, wouldn't risk a declined flag
 
^ sd report, not spam (I think)
 
@AdrianMole we were rolling-back at the same time, and we cancelled each other :) stackoverflow.com/a/65808832/4685471
fixed now
 
NP. I'll leave my comment, though.
 
Interesting comment in reply @AdrianMole
 
That one's moving into "weird" territory!
.. OK, resolved.
 
11:52 AM
:)
NLNs deployed
 
12:46 PM
Hi there, I need some advice on this. In my eyes it looks suspicious.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65793957/feedback-on-substrate-dev-installation-tutorial-from-the-view-of-an-absolute-beg
 
@MartinBackasch off-topic, belongs on meta
 
@oguzismail It's even off-topic on MSO. It has nothing to do with SO.
 
It belongs on Reddit
 
I read it as a Would this kind of QA be on-topic on SO? question.
 
Okay, so just off-topic, nothing more. I had some feelings about it, that it could be som kind of spam, self promoting, or other stuff.
 
12:59 PM
what is the flag for plagiat?
 
Custom
 
@DragandDrop "This is plagiarised from ... Please review and delete."
 
@Dharman ROs please remove this request. OP translated.
 
1:05 PM
Morning, can you remove my request please?
 
1:24 PM
@Dharman psst his name is Nathan, not Morning :P
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Morning
 
1:48 PM
Morning, Morning!
 
"Please ignore any mistakes, as this is my first time on stackoverflow"
 
In that case, sure I will ignore that question and move on to another one.
 
Handled a flag this morning (not by OP) complaining that a question was "downvoted and closed too quickly". Funny thing is the OP listened to comments and fixed the Q so it got reopened on its own.
 
Did you close it slowly?
3
 
Is there now another pending custom flag complaining that a flag was declined too quickly? ;)
 
2:02 PM
Regarding the recent hot meta post...
I encounter another good-question-bad-answer pair (good question, bad question)
None of the existing answers in the "bad question" explains why the problem is happening (floating point inaccuracy), and the top answer uses stringization of numbers and doesn't work with too large/small numbers.
And the poster of the "good" answer deleted their account.
it looks like that we should either merge the two questions, or someone post an answer to the bad question...
 
3:12 PM
 
3:30 PM
We are burning the ! Open Qs - Close Queue - Meta
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Pardon me, tag are we burning?
 
@JeanneDark It weighs the same as a duck
 
Or very small rocks
 
Is there any currently known bug about error in the activity tab? I'm getting "Oops! Something Bad Happened!" here and here and also here - Is it just me?
 
@AlonEitan that seems to be timing out for me as well
 
3:42 PM
Ok, so it's not just me then
Well it's working now, but very slow
 
No repro.
 
@AlonEitan maybe raise a bug if it is still slow in 6 to 8 minutes. Maybe they just deployed
 
@eyllanesc What's with the delete votes on the correct answer? It'll be roomba'd anyway
 
is this spam? link is unrelated.. Unable to find if it is copy paste
 
@oguzismail hmm, which answer is correct? Have you understood the cause of the problem? Have you been able to reproduce the problem? On what grounds do you base that answer is correct?
 
@SurajRao it is deleted, and yes, that looked like spam.
 
@eyllanesc Doesn't your comment there (So the problem is a typo so it must be closed since they do not add anything to SO. It is not recommended to answer it as a comment is enough.) verify that it's correct?
 
4:19 PM
@oguzismail 1) My votes are at my free will so I can use it whenever I want. So I only don't use them when there is a conflict of interest with my requests, and clearly my request goes against the question, not the answers, which is a different topic. 2) If I consider that an answer does not meet the SO rules (such as pointing out that it is a typo) then I give my DV and if I can my vote of elimination. 3) What rule have I broken?
 
@eyllanesc :D I didn't say you've broken a rule, calm down man
 
I don't think anyone's broken any rules here. Folks are free to use their delete votes as they choose, even if it's on something that will auto-delete anyway.
 
@oguzismail Please don't give feelings to some characters, I'm not angry. Only that I like to have things clear: What have I done wrong? Every action that I take I try to meditate, and repetitive actions (I have already done this type of actions countless times) I no longer meditate on them, so my precise question is: What rule have I broken? What wrong have I done?
 
@eyllanesc I don't think oguz was suggesting you did anything wrong, he was just asking why you took a certain action.
 
@TylerH okay, the answer in many of these cases is: because I wanted it (I'm not being ironic) :-)
 
5:03 PM
@ekad That's not opinion-based, nor would it be suitable for Code Review. Questions about refactoring a single function are perfectly on-topic forStack Overflow.
@oguzismail Eeek, no. It's not asking for help on using Stack Overflow, so that doesn't belong on Meta.
 
@cigien I would recommend changing the title of How can I see a Milliner's activity? to 'How to handle winterbash hats that cover the page?'
 
@CodyGray @ekad I've revised the question; it's perhaps a bit more clear or objective sounding now.
 
Is this closable? Seems like it needs more focus to me: stackoverflow.com/questions/57490780/…
 
@CodyGray Yeah I should have read it first :D
 
5:23 PM
@Spectric I would recommend leaving a comment on the post to suggest improvements.
@oguzismail That's so much work, though!
@TylerH Thanks!
@10Repsaysgetvaccinated Agreed.
 
It indeed is, I stopped doing that after reading Return of the Native; there's no action in the first 400 pages, and the whole book is 450 pages. What a waste of time
 
5:42 PM
@TylerH Thanks for editing, it's more objective now.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, after question was edited
 
6:12 PM
@Spectric That's a good idea, thank you. I've also used the terminology on the MSE dupe, so as to make finding it easier.
 
6:25 PM
@JimGarrison [tag:cv-pls] ?
 
@JeanneDark Oops, sorry. Working without userscript for the time being, forgot.
 
7:03 PM
 
7:23 PM
@Dharman Can't you update the duplicate target now that you have a gold badge in ?
 
I can, but what's the point if I want to delete it anyway?
We have thousands of duplicates.
There's no need to keep yet another one.
 
@Dharman Well if it's an unnecessary/nth duplicate, that's one thing, but that's not the reason you gave
 
Ok, then I will use unnecessary duplicate from now on
 
Just want to make sure you aren't deleting stuff/posting requests for reasons you can personally resolve on your own :-)
 
Whenever it makes sense to just change the duplicate target I do. I have already done so with a number of questions.
 
7:30 PM
:thumbsup:
 
But if I post a del-pls I believe the question has no value even as a signpost.
 
When I evaluate your deletion requests, I mostly try to figure out if there's any chance someone else could find the duplicate helpful. For me, that involves considering the view count and obscurity of the code. Maybe an alternative del-pls reason would be "No lasting value"?
 
8:02 PM
 
8:19 PM
How to delete "Possible duplicate" comments?
 
@Dharman Why do you want to delete those? That sounds useful, unless they're suggesting targets that have already been used to close the question. In that case, NLN would be appropriate.
 
@Dharman If you close the question as a duplicate of the Q suggested by them they will automatically be deleted by the system
Alternatively I think you can flag them as NLN and they will be deleted by the system if the question is closed as a duplicate of any question
 
No, I mean I see someone made a terrible mistake and the question was never closed
The duplicate target is definitely not correct
I flagged, but the comment wasn't deleted
 
@Dharman That would be a technical mistake. You should leave another comment explaining why that comment is wrong.
 
If not, then a NLN flag should be handled successfully by a mod. I'd opt for that first, and then if declined, raise a mod flag and say you tried a NLN flag first, and as a gold tag badge SME you can say it's definitely not a correct dupe.
 
8:22 PM
I just flagged another. Let's see if it works this time stackoverflow.com/questions/53494444/…
 
That should be enough for a mod to accept your info. They may also punt it over to Machavity or another mod who is also themselves a PHP gold badge holder
 
@TylerH I don't follow. I though mods don't handle flags that require domain knowledge. Or is there some exception for comment flags? Also, I didn't know I could ask a moderator in a flag to take my word that I'm right because I have a hammer. I mean, I could ask, but I figured they'd just ignore that part.
 
@cigien It depends, probably. If a mod sees a NLN flag on a possible duplicate comment on an open question, then they probably will not handle it.
However, if they see a NLN flag on a possible duplicate comment on a question already closed as a duplicate, they might well agree it's not needed anymore. Especially considering there will still be a link to the question on the right side menu under "Linked Questions" even after the comment is deleted
Likewise if there are flags on posts of certain tags that the mod team knows there are mod SMEs in (e.g. Jon or Martijn for Python, Machavity for PHP, any number of mods for HTML or JavaScript, etc) they may tend to leave the flags to be handled by those mods if there's any hint that domain knowledge might be useful
These are of course just my musings based on my time on SO as a normal user performing cleanup/moderation duties, not based on any knowledge of actual moderator practices behind the scenes
If I were a mod, at least, I would probably delete such comments if a gold tag badge holder in the relevant tag language flagged them as NLN.
 
8:38 PM
That makes a lot of sense. I'm still a little uncomfortable with that. Suggesting different targets in a comment is a good (and probably the only) way to communicate that a closure might be incorrect.
Let's say that a hammer closes a question incorrectly, and then flags all comments pointing out that the closure is wrong. Bit far fetched perhaps, but it seems that would suppress other users from disagreeing with a closure.
Of course, if the comment started with "the current closure is wrong ... [link]" then a mod may not accept the flag. I don't really know of course. I'll have to think about this some more. Thanks for the detailed response.
 
@Dharman NLN flag. Custom mod flag can do it too, but NLN is faster
 
@cigien You can't flag or CV a question as a possible duplicate after it has been closed, so any such subsequent comments should explain how the dupe target is wrong and it should point to question XYZ instead.
 
As long as it's not a "red" comment flag, those are easy to delete
 
But I'm assuming Dharman is talking about the prescribed auto-comments that generate when you flag/CV a question as a potential duplicate
E.g. the old "Possible duplicate of" or new "Does this answer your question?" comments
 
Could us mere mortals place a No longer needed because incorrect dup target request? 4 flags will delete it?
 
8:40 PM
aaand there's an answer from a gold badge-holding mod, to seal the deal :-P
 
@TylerH Oh, I see. Yeah, if the system doesn't handle those automatically, then flags would be fine, because mods don't need domain knowledge to handle that. I was assuming the question was more general, i.e. should comments suggesting targets be flagged.
 
@IanCampbell Undecided (I don't think there's any precedent for that), but I'm hesitant to start encouraging/allowing requests on comments... at least for that reason. Historically, flag-pls requests here are for also for posts, like any other *-pls requests.
 
@TylerH Sure, in this particular instance :) I didn't realize a specific question was being discussed, I thought it was a general question. My bad.
 
@cigien No worries, and I'd say Machavity's answer is just as true for any question in general... it is just nice and neat that it was about a specific question tagged with and we got a mod who is also a PHP expert to chime in :-)
 
@TylerH I'm not strongly in favor of such a policy, but it just seems like a minor step from requests for a technically inaccurate answer to a on a technically inaccurate comment.
Obviously there is a much higher barrier to participation for deleting an answer. And there is the reputation cost for downvoting the answer to get it to <0.
 
8:52 PM
@IanCampbell Yes, and for that and similar reasons I'm hesitant to start allowing comment requests. For starters, there's no public information on who participated, and also as you alluded to the rep threshold for participating in those is much, much lower.
 
9:15 PM
Even Dharman is not safe from Dharman's deleting spree.
 
@IanCampbell the minor step has a difference of 19,985 reputation.
 
Basically a couple days' work.
By minor step, I meant a minor conceptual step. But there are obvious differences in the implementation.
 
We're not going to moderate comments. Not transparent, high abuse factor and hard to defend on Meta when it is held against the room. You're free to start a new room that does comment moderation.
 
@rene Although, with the current track record of recent new rooms that do similar things as SOCVR, it'll be a tough road...
 
I think I'd rather quit SO than start such a room.
 
9:25 PM
I'm thinking of starting a new room for disorganized voting. What do y'all think?
 
Is there actually a need for comment moderation room? I never felt a need to share a comment to be deleted, mostly it is deleted pretty fast after flag
 
Whats disorganized voting?
 
@cigien well this one sound funny, lets go!
 
@IanCampbell :D
 
@NathanOliver My attempt at a joke ;)
 
9:26 PM
Actually, I think I'd rather get dental work done.
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sigh. My sarcasm detector must need to be calibrated again ;)
 
@NathanOliver a room where you post every new PHP question and then pretend you're not voting on it ....
 
Shots fired
 
I have that room already
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Could you avoid adding the target link to the request please? It can get confusing to other members which is the target, and which is the dupe. It also creates some issues with the Archiver I think.
 
@cigien take a closer look then it becomes clear why
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, it's a self-duplicate. But I'm referring to the cv-pls format. Having 2 links in there is problematic, and is recommended against.
 
10:23 PM
 
@πάνταῥεῖ we've changed the guidance on dup requests as described in the FAQ For closure as a duplicate, it's preferred that you do not include the duplicate target in your cv-pls, but rather include it as a comment on the question you feel should be closed (as is automatically done when you flag or vote to close as a duplicate). If you're not using the userscript can you retrain your muscle memory?
 
@cigien Voting at random, nice. Lots of upvotes for posts that don't at all merit it ;=)
 
@halfer how would that be any different from normal? :)
 
11:06 PM
@rene got it
 
@Ruli congrats, these 2 python posts you found were remarkably bad.
 

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