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12:01 AM
Can the 100 "Site Association" rep. be lost? User has a profile on Super User.
... but that's also a 1-rep account.
 
idea from someone else, it could be an answer converted to a comment?
 
Then that answer would be visible to 10K users, is not?
 
talked to Nathan, he thinks that those answers are nuked completely, if he remembers correctly
 
I'm sure I've see pink posts with "This was converted to a comment by Bob-the-Builder♦" but maybe there were different circumstances, in those cases.
 
shrug, idk
 
12:14 AM
FWIW, my first suspicion was also that it was converted from an answer.
 
I've definitely seen answers that were converted to comments. It's possible that sometimes those answers are made invisible even to 10k+ users, but I think that's only done when there's sensitive information that needs to be hidden.
 
... or maybe if done within a 'grace' period?
 
Hmm, interesting. I would still expect that answer to be pink, and not invisible, but I'm not sure.
 
No clue on the timeline, either.
 
@eyllanesc The OP appears to have added code since your comment asking for it. The edit comment also suggests that the OP thinks it's minimal. Could you check if it's ok now?
 
12:21 AM
@cigien 1) Pieces of code is not an MRE, the minimum characteristic is the simplest to fulfill since it is only to delete code but the important thing is reproducibility, that is, a code that with a copy-paste can execute it but clearly pieces of code does not allow it. 2) If you realize my request was a short time ago and the edition was more than a week ago so I clearly had to analyze if that code is an MRE, and as I have already pointed out: it is not an MRE
 
@eyllanesc Understood. Thanks for checking.
 
@cigien Many people think (or suggest) that with those pieces of code the MRE can be built (or rebuilt) but it is not like that, from my experience I have seen many cases where I did that and the code worked correctly and I pointed it out to the OP (to Sometimes I shared my code with him) and he realized that the error was in the part that it did not show,
with the above it only produces a huge waste of time caused because the OP does not read the link or does not understand it. That is why I always demand that the MRE be reproducible.
 
@eyllanesc That's very reasonable. It was not clear to me which aspect of the MRE was missing, so I thought I'd ask you. Since the OP seems responsive to feedback, based on their edit comment, I've left a comment indicating what part they still need to provide. Thanks for the clear explanation, I've mostly just copied that into the comment I left.
 
12:40 AM
@gunr2171 I think this is the most likely. I just checked my recent mod history in JSE in search of answers that I converted to comments, but didn't have any recent actions of this type. I don't recall if 10K users can see this mod action either.
 
12:56 AM
@AdrianMole Shows up in your reputation, tho. User has 1 rep on both sites
 
@gunr2171 Answers which are converted to a comment leave a deleted answer with a note that it has been converted to a comment and the moderator who converted it.
 
@mickmackusa It's not that. When a mod converts to a comment, it shows that as the reason. There's no deleted answers to have been converted either
 
@mickmackusa While you can get to the close dialog from either the "close" button or the "flag" button, if you can cast close-votes, then you can't raise close-flags. The close dialog which is opened in both cases (getting there from "close" and from"flag") is the same dialog. The requests which are sent to the server are the same for both a close-flag or close-vote. The difference is how the server interprets the request.
 
@Makyen thanks for the clarification.
 
np
 
1:03 AM
So, the comment was made by a ghost! Unless there is still some unexhausted aspect to the Sherlock Holmes principle that we've missed.
 
1:55 AM
@tink That target doesn't appear to be correct. At best, the titles are similar, but the question in the target is a bit unclear, and it's not clear at all how the answers apply to this question.
 
Heh. The 2nd approach to answering the pretty much does CVed post does pretty much exactly what the dupe target's accepted answer does ... using sed to change the undesirable character. It may not be a comma, and not the last comma in the filename - but the basics stand ...
 
@tink I agree that the comma being replaced as opposed to some other character or string is not relevant, but it being the last comma certainly makes it a different question (as the top voted answer also suggests). Also, what do you mean by "the basics" exactly? That argument seems like it would apply to a lot of questions using sed. Bit of a slippery slope, don't you think?
 
If the similarity between any of these supposed close reasons is OK, so is mine above ;) ... if one understands the concept of string manipulation sed, for example, the position shouldn't make that much of a difference imho.
 
@tink The first target is appropriate. The remaining 2 targets would not be acceptable on their own, but in addition to the first, they're fine, since they address the specific attempt in the question that the OP doesn't understand. I don't think there's a correspondence to your cv-pls, since as I mentioned, the questions appear to be different in your case.
Is this stackoverflow.com/questions/1118999 on-topic? It appears to be POB, but I'm not sure.
 
2:23 AM
@cigien it's not POB, the VS licensing is actually pretty clear. You can use express for applications (including commercial ones), as long as you're developing something for education or something open source, or if you're an individual (not on a team)
(well, nowadays that's the community license, but IIRC express was the same)
 
@Nick Ah, I see. I was a little confused by the accepted answer, which seems opinion based. Thanks for checking.
 
The accepted answer doesn't even answer the question, it's basically saying "yes, it's possible to develop stuff in VS express". Should be deleted. Likely the most upvoted one should too...
 
@Nick Hmm, the OP seems to have thought it answered their question. Anyway, those are not tags I'm comfortable enough with to delete answers on, unless blatantly wrong.
 
@gunr2171 @mickmackusa @AdrianMole It's possible it was this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/98950
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@Machavity Good one. That MUST be it. What else could it be.
 
 
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3:46 AM
@Machavity Could you bin this request please? It has already been acted upon, and has also been reopened since the cleanup script was last run.
 
@Machavity Thanks.
 
4:02 AM
So now I wonder... If this page doesn't have closure support, should I retract my cvpls and my close vote and then answer the question?
 
@mickmackusa It's pretty much up to you; if you feel that the question should stay open then you can ask for the cv-pls to be binned, and you should retract your close vote. If you want to answer the question, then you have to ask for the request to be binned before you answer it. I'm not entirely sure if you need to wait for the request to actually be binned by an RO before you answer the question, so to be safe I would wait until it actually does get binned.
 
@cigien Yes, I understand the protocols, but should I?
 
@mickmackusa Oh, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I don't really know, I'm not very comfortable with the subject matter. However, in general, if you feel that a question can be reasonably answered in its current form, that's a decent indication that the question should probably stay open. Whether you should answer it depends on whether you have something to contribute to the Q&A that is not already covered by other answers.
BTW, and I realize you weren't asking about the protocols, but I wasn't sure about one detail myself, so I had to look it up. It seems quite clear in the 5th bullet of FAQ#15 that in fact pinging an RO to bin the request is sufficient, and one doesn't have to wait for the request to actually be binned before getting involved.
 
 
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6:56 AM
^ They have another normal looking question so I hesitate to flag
 
Their one "Normal" question is almost a verbatim copy of this reddit post by a user named something else.
I checked the link after some careful tracing; it's just an image sharing thing.
As it stands, that link is not spam and is a descriptor of their problem... Ish. I say ish because I don't believe it adds anything to the question; the question should just be closed as normal though.
 
7:16 AM
@bad_coder that new room was already created by Aaron before he became mod. It became a problem when he leveraged his diamond to get that room going again. But yes, I know that case and that is exactly the reason why I responded as I did to the room Ann created.
 
could someone with a gold badge in review the linked duplicates so that stackoverflow.com/questions/35473174/… can be deleted?
(or gold in for that matter :-)
 
"Gold in Arrays" sounds nice. :) "Buckets" or "Shedloads" would also be fine.
 
@tripleee Yatin already posted that.
 
yeah, just noticed ... nvm
 
Sure. I just mentioned because it was within the delete window.
 
7:32 AM
@Yatin This isn't a debugging question, so "No MCVE" isn't a valid close reason. While I can understand being reluctant to click the link, ibb.co is a free image hosting site. While I'm not thrilled with the quality of the question, it looks on-topic and understandable to me. The question is basically complete in just the title.
 
@Makyen I VTCed as lacking details. Would adding an image directly to the question make it reopenable?
At least, I think that's what I VTCed as.
 
As a VS user, I would say that including the linked image, and some minor grammatical fixes, would make that a valid question. But I don't know the answer... (could be very useful, if there is one).
 
Hmm, Makyen made the grammatical fixes, but I'd be more comfortable if the image were part of the body.
 
@cigien I'm not aware of a license being provided for the image. Is there one on ibb.co which permits copying it?
 
7:44 AM
@Makyen Oh, I haven't the faintest idea. I didn't even think of that.
I take it I should remove the image from the body then?
 
I can't see that would be a problem. The image was created by the poster of the question on SO, is not?
... I was about to do that same as cigien, but wasn't quick enough.
 
@cigien I've already handled it. The site did provide a URL for the PNG image. It would be better if the OP put it on imgur, but without a license, we don't have the right to do that.
 
Fair enough - but maybe see their terms of service?
 
@Makyen Oh, so the ibb.co url is fine, it's just I can't use the imgur link that SO generates? That's very interesting. I don't know if I've messed this up before, but given that I've never though about it, I probably have. I'll keep that in mind. I take it this applies to all non-imgur links, unless I'm aware of a license that allows copying it?
@Makyen Can you bin the request please? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/51401920 It's been through 2 cycles in the room already.
 
I admire your presumed assumption of self-guilt!
 
7:54 AM
@cigien Yes. "Uploading" it to imgur is copying it. If there's no license, then there's no right to copy it. There's a fair-use argument that you could copy it to your own machine for viewing the page later, and there's a fair use argument for a straight archival copy, but making a copy for use in what is, definitely, a commercial enterprise (i.e. SE/SO), is ... unlikely to be ruled fair use, IMO (and even then would apply only to the USA).
 
@Makyen Ok, that makes sense. I'll have to pay more attention to these things. My general attitude is "but I'm not profiting from it", which is obviously not how it works. Thanks for the explanation.
 
np
 
@AdrianMole Moot point. That's what I meant by the 2 cycles :)
 
Hehe - Very interesting timeline on that post, now (if a little saturated).
@cigien Sorry - didn't check the transcript well enough.
 
@AdrianMole No worries. 3 people talking at the same time can get confusing, for sure :)
 
7:59 AM
I have that problem at work, regularly. Both my boss and I are schizophrenic! ;-P
 
@TomerShetah I'd say it is an answer, but not a good one.
 
@AdrianMole So 4 then? ;) BTW, you're technically describing Dissociative Identity Disorder. People often misuse Schizophrenia when they mean that.
 
So we're DID dudes?
 
I guess :) Of course, y'all could be schizophrenic as well, they're not mutually exclusive.
 
@Makyen Thanks for adding the comment on that post about how to share images. I've copied that to my ever growing list of canned comments.
 
@cigien np. I hope you find it useful. :)
 
^ I think this is a new low; for me at least
 
should we collect these into a gallery and vote at the end of the year? I propose [tag:worst-screen-shots-image-gallery-2021]
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It brought a whole new dimension to "needs clarity" :)
 
8:19 AM
@tripleee And bonus points for links to images.
 
 
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9:54 AM
@mkrieger1 Please avoid adding links to the suggested duplicate target in the cv-pls requests.
 
10:16 AM
what's with that tag anyway
 
@tripleee Hmmm. 25 questions, most of which have only that tag. Tricky one to burn.
... unless ...
 
Interesting tag wiki
 
And a very exclusive fan club.
Still, even the Empire State Building started with one brick?
 
looks like there is a site bots.business but with JavaScript blocked, all I get is a pulsating blue ball
 
10:42 AM
Probably not the right place here, but I noticed that using Magic™Editor in Dark Mode makes the editing field unreadable (The background colour changes from dark-grey to white, but the font colour remains white)
 
10:58 AM
@rene @Makyen @TylerH is there something that keeps this PR: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/pull/194 from merging?
 
@rene yes, thanks
 
The SD report question seems like it isn't really about programming
 
11:25 AM
@rene thank you for explaining that, I was struck by the similarity in both cases. I really like AnnZen you know, she is always friendly and I think a lot of her choices are courageous.
 
@Makyen Oh ok
 
12:23 PM
this meta about nominating duplicates when you don't have 3k rep meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/309362/… does not mention leaving a comment; should I post a separate answer about that, or would we prefer that it's not spelled out? (It's still mentioned in comments)
 
12:46 PM
Is this an answer?
 
@VLAZ IMHO, yes.
 
Seems like a comment to me. Doesn't address the question at all, just mentions some problems with the code that are not what was asked for.
 
It's not a good answer! Not even remotely so.
 
"Determine if a numbervalue is contained or a number less than the numbervalue is contained in an array of objects" one might consider "Also javascript does not have a contains function instead use the indexOf which returns -1 if element is not present." to be an attempt at answering the question.
 
^ +1
 
1:08 PM
Morning
 
2:16 PM
@rene Let me take a look now
 
Any of the SOCVR founders/owners/designers interested in helping out with the Reopen Room. Even chickens with still-attached heads would be helpful. :-)
 
@rene couple issues so far; I'll leave some comments on the issues I spot to get them fixed
 
2:50 PM
@AdrianMole To be fair, you need at least 10 rep to upload pictures ("We're sorry, but as a spam prevention mechanism, new users aren't allowed to post images. Earn more than 10 reputation to post images.").
 
@gunr2171 I believe the system automatically converts certain answers by low-rep users to comments, depending on the contents. E.g. a regex that looks at length, if it contains a URL to another question, 'answer your question' included, etc.
@bad_coder Sorry, which message are you referring to exactly? Regarding your confusion; if a *-pls request is moved out of the room without being fulfilled, you may re-request it. However, I'm not sure if we have a rule on if your re-request comes 6 months after the last activity (and the first request was within the window). I'm inclined to say in that case you do get to re-request it at least once, but that's just my gut reaction.
@AdrianMole We do also perform and encourage [tag:reopen-pls] requests here in this room.
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@TylerH Yeah, sure. But not for posts where one is involved. We're still in the very early stages of working out how the new room might work ... but maybe as an assistance/guidance centre for those who want their questions (or ones they have answered) reopened. Someone with knowledge/experience of the sorts of issues SOCVR faced in establishing itself would be very helpful.
 
@AdrianMole Yes, that's true--we have stricter rules here. However, you can ask for general guidance/assistance here about questions of your own that were closed... you just can't request that they be reopened.
 
... which can potentially become problematical.
For example, if someone sees that their question was closed by the regulars in here, then comes in and asks, "Why did you close my question?" - then we can direct them to the Reopen Room, to avoid rule conflicts, and the like.
 
@AdrianMole we're basically modelled to prevent abuse. Every rule we have is caused by an incident where we looked bad. I hope you understand I'm not overly enthusiastic to redirect people from this room to a new room and tell them: it is okay to ask there. Not only will that be hurtful for whatever you want to achieve in that room but it also might have a boomerang effect on this one. So I opt out if you don't mind.
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3:04 PM
Huzzah! I can see super-downvotes now!
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@E_net4with20k congratz!
 
@rene No problem. But it's advice like you have just given that we're seeking. Of course we can address any abuse after it happens, but it would be nicer to get the rules in before it happens. Prevention is better than cure!
 
@AdrianMole But we already have a dedicated section of the FAQ for that
 
@rene Also looks a bit like circumventing the SOCVR rules - you can't ask here if you're involved but we'll redirect you to another chat room where you can (and some of us might also be present).
 
@JeanneDark yes, that is a correct analysis.
 
3:08 PM
@JeanneDark Also good advice. I'm new at this game ... as are many of the others.
 
@E_net4with20k Congrats
 
What are super-downvotes?
 
@Dharman delete votes
 
Very tongue-in-cheek super-downvotes.
 
3:25 PM
@JeanneDark I disagree. I think if the focus is on user education, explaining what is missing from their particular questions, rather than the outcome of the reopening request, that it avoids that problem. Advice rather than request.
 
@code11 If that's the case, then I don't see anything wrong with having the discussion in this room.
 
There have specifically been instances where requests for reopening advice have been deleted. The "don't be involved with the posts you put here" is very strong. Maybe that was in error. Maybe it shouldn't have been phrased as a request, but it does happen. (Not my stuff, I basically never post)
 
@Braiam Confirmed by an RO: "However, you can ask for general guidance/assistance here about questions of your own that were closed..."
 
@code11 The concern is that we don't like to get too focused on any one user or any one question. If you are asking for really in-depth guidance on how to improve your question, or you find yourself asking why your questions were closed all the time, then yes, this is not the room for that. However, if you want to know, in general, why a question was closed (e.g. because the close banners are kind of useless/esoteric), then that's fine.
 
@TylerH Thanks. Sorry for the botched tag I forgot how to do it (was active here ages ago)
 
3:35 PM
@JeanneDark That is only theory. I've twice witnessed binning of someone's message where they asked for advice in this room. The reason was, if I understand it correctly, that someone may have interpreted the message as a request, even if it isn't phrased as one. As such it's even more difficult to ask this in the room (than to ask a perfect Question on main), as one needs to almost speak perfect English in order to phrase it to everyone's satisfaction.
 
@Scratte Judging from the stats just posted on MSE, it's actually way easier to make a request or ask a question in this room than it is on main. I am pretty sure we bin far fewer than the ~16% of questions that get closed on Main. :-)
 
Does this question make any sense to you? stackoverflow.com/q/65794414/11573842
 
@Yatin No, I voted to close it as unclear already, FWIW
 
It is an SD report. Doesn't seem like spam. But I can't make sense out of it
@TylerH Thought so
 
@TylerH I mean when someone comes in to ask "What can I do to make my post OK to be re-opened" Those message have been binned in here.
 
3:39 PM
@TylerH this one it was 9 months since activity (I follow the 6 month rule strictly). But I cast a CV that was going to expire, so I thought might as well post on SOCVR. FAQ #11 gives some latitude, but I can't see a clear-cut criteria I could use to justify posting here.
 
@bad_coder Your CV that was going to expire was cast outside of the 6 month period? Did you post a request earlier (while it was still within the 6 month rule)?
 
@Yatin looks like they are asking "how do I compile this obscure thing on Windows"; the utility in question might actually be a programming tool of some sort
 
@TylerH no, I hadn't made an earlier request. And I cast my CV about 10-11 days ago (expiry at 14 days) so I posted because it'd be a shame to let a perfectly good CV go to waste...
 
If it was not a re-post of a previous , then that was a rule violation for sure; just because your close vote is going to expire doesn't mean you can make a request here for stuff outside of the 6-month window.
 
@tripleee I don't know.. It seems that they are trying to make an exe out of it? If so then why share a webpage instead of Python code? I am not an expert at anything so idk
 
3:45 PM
Already, I'm seeing all sorts of potential issues with the Reopen Room! It sounded like a good idea when it was raised on that Meta post, way back when ...
 
it seems to be the home page for the ... thing
 
... but, now that they seem to have nominated me as the "Responsible Adult" in there, I'm starting to realize that running such a room has also sorts of issues, potentially. But I'm not giving up just yet.
 
probably not a Python program if they want to compile it; I'm guessing they want a binary so they can call it from Python as a subprocess
 
The "wiggle room" for the other bullet points there is mostly in addition to the 6 month rule. We have allowed requests outside of the 6 month window if they are being used to justify other stuff, or are really harmful somehow, but we do generally require you to state that in the request reason here.
 
@TylerH ok, I was confused. It thought the 6 month rule had some latitude because arguably the post was "are really bad" also in FAQ #11.
 
3:47 PM
@tripleee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@bad_coder I do agree that section should be revised to be more clear
 
@AdrianMole no worries. I compared this very room with kindergarten a couple of times and oh boy, does that offend the regulars. Pick your "battles"...
 
@rene I wouldn't object to nap time.
 
@rene ... I live, I learn. And then I hit the booze!
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@rene Interesting, I've always considered it as more of a garden... a couple plants here and there and a whole bunch of dogs running around
 
4:07 PM
@bad_coder FYI: we're discussing that section and your request atm. Need some more RO's to chime in.
 
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Q: Should we delete [delete-file]?

Daniel A. WhiteRelated: Should we [delete] [deletion] and [deleting]? Just stumbled on delete-file. The excerpt says: Tag for questions regarding file deletion. O.S. independent. We don't have write-file, create-file or open-file. Should we delete delete-file?

 
@rene while the RO's are always wise I'd like to offer a brief thought. The FAQ has historical depth (searching for the word "queue" shows an evolution over time of the SOCVR mission). The specific case of the post under analyses has some overlap with point "review".
@rene It should be considered that "picking single posts out of the review queue" isn't currently done in SOCVR's daily operations. Any change to FAQ #11 can seriously change current practices and status-quo. (This is a sum up of "impressions" I gathered over time, that by coincidence come together because of this post.)
 
thanks.
 
@E_net4with20k welcome to the dark side
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"Tasks reviewed⁴: Close Votes queue" Moderators: 56,427 :)
 
Yeah, really an impressive number. Same for the review bans...
 
1,000,000 comments deleted by normal users... that is awesome
 
Sorry about that
I wonder which one of these statistics I had the biggest involvement in
 
5:31 PM
We need extra "Samuel Liew" and "Dharman" columns :)
 
And Cody
 
unfortunately there is no "posts downvoted" column
 
I think for me it is probably escalations to CM. I account for roughly 15% of that
Comments flagged only about 6%
I am amazed that 1.5 million posts were deleted. How is that even possible
 
@Dharman roomba deletes a lot
 
But footnote 6 states that automatic deletions are ignored?
 
5:37 PM
I know I feed it
 
I contributed to 0.0001 percent of that
lol
 
so do I. easiest way to get things deleted
 
Ok, well don't downvote just to let roomba delete it. Don't downvote good posts.
 
@Dharman but there were 0 escalations from normal users
 
I can't escalate myself. I meant my actions probably resulted in roughly that many escalations by mods
 
6:22 PM
Nothing to see here. Move along. waves hand subtly
 
waves back
 
Waffles, delicious waffles.
 
I just got PHP tag badge for the first time.
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Congratulations! I wonder if Community will revoke it if you get revenge downvoted below 1000.
 
A little bit ealier than I should. I feel like someone has given it to me
It will
So I might get it again soon
I wouldn't have minded waiting another week or month.
 
6:33 PM
It wasn't me
 
I remember the first day I got my gold badge I was like "I'm going to close 40 dups today!" And then I found like 3?
It seems like it would be possible to close so many dups, but then actually finding the exact right dupe is a new skill to learn.
 
@Dharman Congrats!
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@IanCampbell The key is to bookmark ones deserving closure as you find them
then when you get 20k, gold badge, mod privileges, etc., you can revisit them at your leisure
 
6:51 PM
How dare they abuse the :/
I generally fp those immediately
This is rather smart
 
@Dharman Nonsense. Go hammer stuff. You've earned it.
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Aaaah ... back in the Happy Room!
TIL - Extra chilis in my curry tonight, as penance. ;-)
 
It was as if millions of terrible duplicate PHP questions suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
 
Uh... what? I need some eye and ear bleach.
 
7:00 PM
It means I'm happy
 
I'm not clicking untrusted YouTube links
 
You've been rickrolled too many times, I see
 
@IanCampbell See the one in the description :P
The original one
 
7:15 PM
It works. I can finally close old questions.
Well, except the questions where I added the PHP tag...
 
Should I expect a substantial increase of deletion requests in 48 hours?
 
yes
 
@Dharman As long as you clean the leeks up when you're done ;)
 
@Dharman By the power of Grayskull?
 
I don't know what that is
 
I'm old, that's what it is
I don't know if @Machavity is as old as me.
 
@Dharman He-Man reference. Braiam has me feeling old now
 
7:40 PM
I got the reference. At least we can be old together.
 
Hmm, now I'm confusing the hammer guy with He-Man.
 
@Braiam He-Man?
LOL :-D
Who's Skeletor here?
We're friggin' old guys :)
Who remembers what the frell is?
 
7:55 PM
the last SD report answer gave me no other option as report it for mod, any idea why? it got deleted already meanwhile
 
@Dharman you did not get the hammer....I mean, if people on the PHP tag only knew what's about to happen :|
 
? do you know something I dont?
 
@Dharman they're gonna wake up tomorrow and 80% of the tag was closed...(pending deletion) :D
 
@bad_coder Why are you saying it as if it's a bad thing?
There was a moderator that was a php regular. Second Rikudo (don't know which username it was afterwards)
 
@Braiam off course not, I haven't posted on php :D (I'm not among those who are going to be affected.)
@Dharman I'm just joking and being happy for you, that hammer is well deserved and was long in the making. (Looking towards my first tag bronze badge myself.)
 
8:08 PM
@Dharman congrats!
 
Is YCS still active on PHP?
 
Thanks.
Yes, YCS is very active, but I help out a lot... or at least I hope I do.
 
@Dharman Don't bother them, they'll manage to get suspended very quickly again in such case. Just like me ;)
 
you were suspended?
 
8:18 PM
Several times, yes.
 
@Dharman I was going to tell you that wielding the hammer requires justice, but also sensitivity. If you go stepping on someone else's toes there will be backlash, sometimes it's better to get half the job done and consider the other half not your job.
 
There's an aspirational call if I've ever heard it. Try to only get suspended once.
 
once but for good?
 
Taking one for science? Or the team?
 
8:49 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ ping ping trying to bother you just for the popcorn :)
 
I calmed a lot down over the last year :)
Corona is great for misanthropes like me ;-)
 
:), how is life?
 
My couch, my laptop, electronic toys of all kind (tablet, e-Reader, TV streaming). Could be worse
How was 2020 for divers?
 
For me good everybody healthy so far, made more $ and spent less.. but yeah I missing to go home to family and friends in Sweden
This summer however I have bet that corona is finished in Europe
 
Is there a way to update a request? Re my above request, a user suggested a duplicate and the OP confirmed in a comment that it answers their question. So closing it as duplicate might be better.
 
9:05 PM
@PetterFriberg I think we can sit it out, until vaccines are safe and available for everybody. I am not so sure, if all people will grasp, that it's better to stay home and be patient.
 
jps
@JeanneDark closed as dup now
 
We have a lot of completely nuts people here.
 
@jps Thanks!
 
^not this room, where I live of course.
 
:5140906 it's not easy always specially for youngsters... but yeah with some vaccine, some immunity and sun let's hope that we ate done with it
 
9:16 PM
@PetterFriberg Yup. I am sorry for my daughter. She's having her last year before the exams, and it's all unclear for them what will go on in the next month. But she's quite tough, and very canny.
 
User banned from review 2020 mods: 22,340 2019 Mods: 3,023 change: 639%
I got review privileges in 2020 and see how it ended up :/
 
@Ruli Lol, but yeah it was a single person who made that difference...
 
same for mod reviews in the CV Queue
some 55000 reviews or something, 54000 of whom were all by 1 mod
 
nice, send a kiss to the good mod :)
 
10:08 PM
^ spam
 
10:23 PM
is there any actual statistic on how long does spam survive on SO on average? I am curious why do people even try.
 
Most of the questions I have saved in bookmarks is such nonsense that it's impossible to close it as a duplicate. Simply no one else asked such unclear question before.
 
@Dharman choose the 2 main topics, and close with multiple dup target. (Anyone taking issue is welcome to find more dup targets.)
 
The problem is that I have absolutely no idea what the question even says
There should be an option to just mark them for a deletion
 
@Dharman ppfff, tough one (I've seen those for sure :| )
 
10:30 PM
 
@PetterFriberg I assume that time to deletion is in secs
 
Yeah and posts that are identified by smokey. If not they can live for years.
It's also in all SE sites, normally it's faster on SO, if you need better stats you can ask in charcoal
 
@Scratte While there have been some issues in this area, my opinion is that things have generally been worked out, with multiple people participating as to defining what's acceptable. The cases I'm remembering were not, generally, issues resulting from imperfect use of English, but rather, usually, the poster's focus on wanting their/the question reopened rather than being interested in knowing why it was closed and improving the question.
@Scratte Some are; some aren't. Each one is evaluated by ROs on a case-by-case basis. There are ones where the issue is clear-cut and ones where it isn't. In general, users are informed of the rules and allowed to continue with actual questions, rather than requests, or questions/statements which are basically phrased as a request.
Overall, yes, there are issues here, which we generally seem to work through in a reasonable manner. It may take a while and some discussion, but we get there. I suggest that you allow people the leeway to discuss things and work towards resolution. It feels like you take a snapshot impression of situations you don't like and then run with it without allowing other counter-indicating examples affect what you feel is the average of what happens.
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I'm certainly not saying we're perfect, or even that we can't do better. However, it feels like you just won't let some examples go, even if they have been talked through, examined, and learned from.
I'm not wanting you, or anyone, to stop commenting on situations where they think something isn't being handled "right". What I do want is for people to allow for differing opinions, discussion, and for the situation to evolve over time as we all learn how to better handle things.
 
I would star all of those messages, but it'd fill up the board.
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@IanCampbell I have much the same feeling, so I'm going to star your message instead as a proxy.
@Adriaan eyllanesc just posted that, so you can remove it.
 
11:03 PM
@Machavity damn we're old...
 
Shouldn't I be able to see when an answer was accepted in the timeline?
 
Oops.. nothing to see here
 
That's where I'm looking
I think it's a bug
But haven't been using stackoverflow seriously for long enough to know if it was shown at some point after the timeline redesign
 
The worst part about closing typos as duplicates is that I know I found that typo already but I can't find it again...
 
11:08 PM
@riQQ Data.SE has the accept day, but not time. data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/edit/1360019
 
11:24 PM
 
11:43 PM
@cigien Found some dupes. Not perfect, but better than nothing. There are some good dupes for reserved words like volatile, override, etc., but nothing specific for operator.
 
@CodyGray Oh, very nice, thanks. The 2nd one is not exactly a dupe, it's asking about the distinction between keywords and library functions, and the 3rd one is a very badly written question (though it has the best title). The 1st target is perfect though.
 
What should be the duplicate direction between these two questions? stackoverflow.com/questions/42030708/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/29528894/…
 
@IanCampbell There is never any harm to raising a flag that duplicates a system-raised flag. If you aren't sure, just flag it.
 
@AdrianMole that is spam for sure
 
@cigien I found them in reverse order. :-) I couldn't just close the tabs without using them, though. :-)
 
11:54 PM
@Yatin What makes you so sure? I'm not saying it's not spam, just can't see why.
 
See the user name.
 
Ah! How did I miss that?
... bad hair day, I guess.
 
@AdrianMole Same post, some time ago on another SE site.
 
@Yatin This was not intended as spam, but it should be deleted as soon as possible
I would not decline spam flag on it
but it would be better to delete using 20k+ powers
 
I changed my NAA to Spam. If they've posted it before and been told, why do it again?
 
11:56 PM
... Haven't been told actually
 
MS has only one post
 
That post was just a few minutes ago
 
@mickmackusa It is not new. The UI has always been this way. An attempt to flag as "needs improvement" will be automatically converted into the corresponding vote to close, if you have close-vote privileges.
 
Unless you've run out of your daily CV quota. I actually tried that, once. What a waste of ~4 mouse clicks.
 
@CodyGray Ah, that makes sense. I was a little confused why you added poorer dupes after adding the best one :p BTW, that one even mentions operator as an example, but I don't think that would be necessary, it doesn't really make sense to have a target for each keyword.
 
11:58 PM
@cigien No, that never happens. Answers never become invisible. The most mods can do is retract a revision. The answer would still be there.
 
I used up my remaining votes on hammering. Now I need to wait 10 seconds for new quota
 

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