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2:15 AM
@Makyen I see. I guess I'm going to have to set up a different browser just for SO as I cannot risk leaking passwords or account info. Sigh...
 
@JimGarrison That's a viable alternative. Personally, I use a separate Firefox browser profile for things I consider sensitive, and have one which I use for most of my browsing, including SO/SE, and then another profile and separate installation of Firefox for things I consider somewhat risky. Given that each profile runs in a separate set of processes, cross contamination is highly unlikely, unless you do something which might permit it
(e.g. install a separate application which has rights on your machine, rather than just a browser extension).
OTOH, if your main concern is the userscript manager, then Violentmonkey is a viable open source alternative, which, while it appears to have some idiosyncrasies, does not appear to have major compatibility issues.
 
 
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4:31 AM
@MadhurBhaiya I'm curious, is there any reason you haven't voted to close the question yourself?
 
5:00 AM
 
Are we allowed to make [del-pls] requests for very old answers that are wrong?
 
@AdrianMole There's no "recent activity" constraint on del-pls requests as far as I know, so as long as the answer is eligible for deletion, i.e. it doesn't require down-votes, then a request should be fine.
Hmm, I was expecting the answer to be much older than that :p
 
I misread the date of the answer. The question is very old, though, and the poster of the answer hasn't been around for quite a while.
 
Yeah, my comment is pretty useless, which I realized after posting it.
 
Meh.
 
6:04 AM
Huh - where'd all those stars come from?
Taking Starbursts too far!
 
> thanks my problem is solve
it's called grammar
 
@Yatin "Typo" in my book
 
Thanks
 
I wouldn't say it's directly a typo, but it is kinda useless
 
6:15 AM
Yea
 
@TomerShetah See, NAA is when there is no attempt to answer. Here there is an attempt.
So, no. It is an answer
@TomerShetah This one is harder. An NAA can have mixed outcomes. It needs details and clarity. A comment is the way to go. I, personally, won't flag that.
 
Thanks @Yatin Usually when I am not sure I don't flag and ask here. This is what I did with both :)
 
:)
 
7:18 AM
Just to double-check...
Questions like "I get error X while scraping this site" without including the HTML in the question body is MF324 (off-topic -> needs debugging details) right? It's no better than "this dataset is on this external site" questions.
 
@user202729 I don't think it's entirely that cut and dried. If there is no indication that they even looked at the HTML then I'll concur, but it's quite possible to provide a MRE which includes the scrape (though I suppose we would prefer one which has the HTML inline so we don't have to pester the remote site and maybe troubleshoot unrelated network problems)
 
@user202729 If the question is not self contained (i.e. the question can be answered based only on the information in the question), then yes, it is off-topic. If it requires going to another site, then the question is effectively useless once that site is gone or changes.
 
7:42 AM
(never mind.)
 
(also on all the other answers)
 
@PetterFriberg I think OPs profile explains it all... "Don't use the same email and password"
 
Definitely look like someone hacked into the account.
Ah right.
Well, the hacker is definitely annoying this time...
 
@Nick who knows... for now they have to be stopped :), then mods can figure that out..
 
@PetterFriberg there's already a temporary suspension on the account
 
7:54 AM
Yeah mods arrived :)
 
Can a suspended user edit their own posts?
 
I don't think so, the idea of suspension is to block all activity
 
Cool
 
8:49 AM
Is being question-banned and post-banned 2 different things?
 
You can be answer-banned, too
 
Oh, and those are independent?
 
@JeanneDark Oh, I see. They're indeed different. For some reason, I've never had cause to actually read that FAQ until now. Thank you.
 
@cigien Thankfully, it has also never been that relevant for me either, so I have no practical experience with it. I usually just link to it in comments starting with "Does this answer your question:" ;)
 
8:57 AM
@JeanneDark Yeah, that makes sense. I know what question that FAQ answers, I just don't know what the answer actually is :p I was making some edits to answers to the latest question ban Meta, and was planning on writing an answer myself, but realized I was missing some basic knowledge of how that works. So now it's relevant enough for me to actually read it thoroughly :p
 
I also think it makes sense to differentiate between questions and answers when post-banning. Why should someone who writes good answers but terrible questions be prevented from answering (and the other way round)?
 
Yeah, it certainly makes sense. But there are plenty of things that don't make sense about the ban system. In particular, the latest Meta where I learned that one's question history is never erased.
All I can say is, I'm sincerely thankful that I didn't try to ask a question a decade ago. Knowing the botched up job I would have done when I was in school, if the reaction I had gotten was anything like what new OPs seem to receive today, I don't believe I would ever have started interacting with SO in any meaningful way.
 
Not sure how it doesn't make sense. The purpose of SO is to be a repository of knowledge, not someone's personal help desk. If people prove consistently that their contributions to the repository are of very low quality, the post-ban mechanism helps to protect the system from them.
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@JeanneDark Excellent question. I have an answer to that. But there also appears to be a venue where I can share that answer, namely the latest Meta. Ok, I might as well go for it. I'll read that FAQ a couple more times and then write up an answer.
 
9:25 AM
@cigien I can't resist: 1) One question or poor contribution doesn't get you post-banned. I know there are vague claims that 2 questions were enough in some cases, but they must then have been really incredibly terrible. 2) The standards evolved over time (learned by experience) and it was much more lenient back then. We can even see it here some times with a new link-only answer to an old resource request etc.
 
I was really worried once that I would get answer banned since I answered old questions in low-traffic tags (takes time to get votes) once the stackoverflow.com/help/answer-bans had "significant zero-voted answers" but they have removed that now.
I guess you need downvotes on answers now to get the ban
 
I guess posts with a score of 0 are usually just neutral and won't cause you getting banned. But if you are rate-limited, new posts with such a score will probably also not help.
 
@JeanneDark Ooh, you're making it really hard for me to resist responding :) But I think I can resist for now, partly because of the fact that this would be discussion of a currently active meta, and partly because of the fact that I've already started writing up an answer. I will definitely incorporate some of your points, in particular the one that was deemed worthy of a star. Please do ask these questions on my answer when I post it, I would appreciate that very much.
 
@cigien On a related note (and since these are your pet peeves), it's also an explanation for the community's resistance to "homework" and "no-research-effort" questions.
 
@JeanneDark Yes, that does seem to be related. I'm getting the impression that the resistance to old bad questions aging away is "hey, you were a pain in my ass at some point, there's no way I'm letting you get a fresh start without you really proving that you're worthy".
 
9:36 AM
Resistance is futile. We are the Collective. You will be assimilated.
 
> @Yatin the demonstration was to explain the bounty . . .
 
@cigien I'm not sure I agree with it. It's rather that those people have so far only proven that their contributions are hurting the site (and cause more work for the community) instead of making it better. And they then have to prove they know how the site works, improve their previous insufficient contributions (willingness and ability) and their new contributions are useful to everyone else.
 
@Yatin I'd think it would be fine after the bounty ended, becasue it does rephrase the accepted answer. But for now it's used to explain what the OP wants for the bounty. But that's just my opinion.
 
@Yatin I would say that such an explanation is still unnecessary meta fluff. But that's just my opinion. If I was an anonymous visitor from google who wanted to find an answer to a problem, I do not see how that would/should interest me.
 
@DanielF might be a bit controversial, but what if we edit that into the bountied answer itself?
With the author's permission...
 
9:57 AM
@Yatin No idea how that would go over. If the answer author is OK with it fine, but then the question/bounty also needs to be modified to refer to the distance KPI stated. It just seems simpler to wait 2 days until after the bounty finished and then revert. But maybe I'm just lazy :P.
 
Guy is doing Process Hollowing, which is a malware technique, is there a reason to close such post? the question
 
@DanielF I am left a comment... let's see..
@Ruli I guess the good faith assumption here would be that they are trying to study the process itself. And might not have malicious intent.
 
thanks for feedback, will leave it be
 
The image does say Hello world! so..
 
10:31 AM
 
@Yatin I tried to make the title slightly less useless but I agree that this still needs details or clarity
 
That's weird, when does Smoke Detector get removed?
 
@DanielF If the message came in and the post got deleted within the time limit then somkey does that
 
10:47 AM
Ahh, OK. I wondered if someone went through the effort to hide their spam by reporting smokey. It looked like a bad one but I didn't get a chance to click it.
 
No no... That was Automatic flagging
It dropped 4 (maybe 5) spam flags so that only one other flag from a reviewer was required to nuke
4 flags (I checked)
 
ok
 
11:06 AM
@AdrianMole poor editor :/
 
@Yatin I was thinking of either responding to (or even flagging) the comment. But I didn't.
 
@AdrianMole I did flag the comment
 
As NLN?
 
@AdrianMole the comment should be flagged
 
@AdrianMole yes
 
11:09 AM
My overarching subservience to wicked humour prevented me from acting.
 
My humour is still having weekend ...
 
... is this extended laziness you are exhibiting part of your practising to be a mod?
 
Are you calling mods lazy?
 
@rene No. What on earth made you think that?
 
It was worth trying to frame your message ...
 
11:15 AM
the other day I flagged codys comment on some meta post. Comment was funny but was using improper language, so I had to. People should not see such comments, then there might come up improper actions like this edit.
 
@Ruli yeah, if comments cause actual mishaps then they are better deleted.
 
@AdrianMole If rene becomes a mod, who moderates the moderators?
 
@JeanneDark don't worry about it. Moderation will just become a bit more blurry ..
 
11:36 AM
Hmm, people on Meta read very fast. My answer got a down-vote in 34 seconds :)
@JeanneDark I went ahead and posted an answer. It's a bit rough, but addresses some of the main points I want to make. I'll end up refining it over time, but please do comment on that answer, I'd appreciate that.
 
@cigien Well your opening doesn't sound very strong... move it to the end of the answer ;)
 
@Yatin The fact that I don't know much about the topic? No, I think that's very important information, and I'm quite happy to lead with that.
 
^ yea it is spam (that airline map one not the other one)
 
Why do people want to let users who showed that they can't ask questions let them ask questions again? What's the reasoning behind this? It's a privilege to be able to contribute here.
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11:51 AM
@Dharman People make mistakes, right? I certainly don't want to be held accountable for all the silly things I did in my past.
 
Well then in that case, let's open all the prisons
Surely, these people should not be held accountable for their past mistakes
 
Well, once the jail term is served, then they can start afresh.
 
@AdrianMole in theory you mean?
 
Yes. I only ever served time in a theoretical (actually, hypothetical) jail. :-)
 
I can imagine a six-month waiting period between questions does seem a bit draconian to folks not faced with the fire hose of SOCVR every day.
 
11:54 AM
@Dharman They are not absolutes. It's not either we lock everyone up, or let everyone go free. And yes, I am very much in favor of shorter prison terms in most parts of the world. If nation states focused more on the rehabilitation than the punishment aspect, this would be a practical thing to do. Further discussion of the prison analogy would be better had in the Ministry though.
 
@Dharman yeah. I'm always a bit torn, specially if you have that one user that indeed tried everything to fix but didn't work out. The example Robert used to make his case was what caused me to write my answer as that profile showed the opposite of what the purpose is of q-bans.
 
Maybe I am a little harsh, but I am a strong believer that we should not allow just anyone to ask questions here. Or maybe let them ask a single question and if it is not well received then ban them for six months straight away. People need to treat this seriously and they need to put a lot of effort into asking questions.
 
:/
 
I am all for better learning resources that would show how to write better questions but we already have plenty and people don't use them. Most just don't care
 
I think it's mostly people disagreeing with a system that can see someone still being punished as a graduate student for poor decisions as a high school senior.
 
12:03 PM
@Dharman Hmm, I like to think that I put in a lot of effort when I ask questions, especially the first few questions I asked. I looked pretty hard for resources, and I didn't find anything.
 
or at least a system that on its face seems to allow that
 
We have your, we have help section. New users just want their problem solved with no regard for the community.
@cigien did you get question banned?
 
Darn, cleaning up that message ended up with it losing the emphasis :(
@Dharman No, I did not. I'm not sure what you mean.
 
Then the system works
 
Askings questions on SO is a privilege, not a right.
 
12:05 PM
@Dharman I am laughing out loud at this logic.
 
You have put in an effort and the questions you asked didn't result in a question ban.
 
I think I made this point to Jeanne earlier: I'm very glad that I didn't interact with SO when I was considerably younger. Lucky me I guess.
 
Rob
The question ban algorithm shouldn't be taken as a point for or against. It's terribly broken... I've seen people sign up, post spam (and have it nuked) and not be banned. I've also seen people post legitimate questions and be banned for it
 
^ +1
@Dharman I am afraid that system's crossfire will push good users away from SO
 
While loads of low qality content won't?
 
12:10 PM
Bad questions are certainly pushing me away
 
Hm.. that is also true
 
Unfortunately, the extent of what most people see of SO consists of their questions and what they see on r/ProgrammerHumor
 
My point is that we already do very little to prevent users from asking questions and now we want to loosen up the restrictions we already have.
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Rob
Are you referring to Robert's post?
Because if so, he's proposing a 1 year limit. Your suggestion of banning for 6 months is even more severe
 
I think it's important to distinguish between most users versus us curators. For the 6 months that I wasn't curating, I guess I did see the low quality content, but I just ignored it. At least, it didn't stop me from seeing all the great content that gets posted all the time. I do see that as a curator, my perspective has shifted. In fact, I still make it a point to try and answer good questions, just to remind myself that they actually exist.
It's too easy to focus only on the bad content when I spend a lot of my time in SOCVR, and Charcoal HQ.
 
12:15 PM
The only reason why I became a curator is because I couldn't stand the nonsense that was being posted on Stack Overflow
 
That's very interesting. I didn't see that at all. I started curating because it's much more challenging, and I like that. Perhaps one of the differences is the tags we watch.
Also, I'm quite comfortable ignoring large quantities of nonsense. Only way I stay sane in the modern world.
 
Looks like we didn't learn from Python 2's mistake. (Python 2 uses backticks for repr, but it was removed because some people confuses it with '. Now we use backticks for code blocks)
 
I am referring to Robert's post. I am ok with giving users a chance to try again from time to time but not to completely forget their transgressions after a certain amount of time passes.
 
@Rob I like the phrasing "terribly broken". I felt "quite broken" was strong enough, but I'm going to steal that. Thanks :)
 
@cigien My perspective is that of the anonymous visitor from google who hopes to find a solution to their problem but sees a lot of useless content instead. SO is still better than the rest due to the quality control. I hope it stays this way but I'm not sure.
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12:20 PM
(That looks like an edit conflict.)
How can that happen? I thought SO should show a "there's a pending edit"?
 
We do what we can, Jeanne
 
@user202729 I don't think that's reliable; we regularly see edits stomp over other edits
when you are in the middle of editing, sometimes you get a notification saying another edit was made in the meantime, and you should only save if yours is better; but there is no sane way to check that easily
 
@Dharman I hope I help a little bit :)
 
@JeanneDark it can't be stressed enough but that is indeed the goal.
 
Huh. Userscript anyone?
 
12:27 PM
@JeanneDark For about a decade, when I have looked to solve a programming problem, SO has been better than any other resource by several orders of magnitude. I am by no means suggesting that we do things that reduce SO's quality. I do realize that my questioning how things are done, and my suggestions that we loosen the criteria on what sorts of content we allow, might indicate that I don't care about maintaining the quality of the site. That's not really the case.
 
12:45 PM
@Dharman the MacOS Unity SD report is undisclosed affiliation
 
@tripleee Yeah, but not spam
 
@Dharman by SD buidelines that's TP nonetheless
 
Is it? Why is NAA not suitable?
 
@tripleee Then maybe userscripts should be adjusted. I flagged it as NAA and automatic flagging marked it as NAA in MS
 
1:05 PM
Morning
 
1:30 PM
@Dharman you can always set a separate verdict in metasmoke if you want to override it
 
@NathanOliver Do you know a good canonical target for "Using a keyword as a variable"? e.g. as a target for this.
 
@cigien I just leave a comment and vote to close as a typo
 
@NathanOliver Oh, I see. Would be nice to have a canonical for these. They pop up fairly frequently.
 
There might be one, it's just so hard to try and search for it so I just drop the comment and VTC to save myself and the OP time.
 
1:40 PM
Fair enough. Does waste 2 other CVs, and takes longer to close though. That one's been open for almost an hour now, and several hammers have seen it already.
What would you say to a canonical for this? Wouldn't take more than 10 minutes to write one. A good title would be the most important thing.
 
I wouldn't say no to having one. You could give it a a title like Why can't I use certain names as variables?
 
@cigien I started curating because all the nonsense was making it harder for me to find answers to my questions. It is frustrating when you have to open dozens of pages with poor questions that might or might not be related to your problem (but you cannot tell because they are asked poorly without clear definition of a problem) and wading through 100+ answers only to find out none of them are related
 
@DalijaPrasnikar That's fair. I assume you're being hyperbolic with the 100+ answers,but yes, I often have to look at several answers before finding what I need. I've always assumed that this is just the nature of how search engines work. Even with my experience with a hammer, and knowing that a particular question exists, I have to spend a few minutes finding an answer. But when searching for a question, I don't really see the low quality posts, that I see on the first page of SO for example.
@NathanOliver Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking, thanks.
 
1:58 PM
@cigien a bit hyperbolic, but no so much... in Android tag older questions can easily have 10+ answers that are all different because OS and library changes and you can easily find 10+ similar questions for some problems.
 
@cigien No problem. You might even be able to make the question language-agnostic since I think all languages have this "feature".
 
@cigien She's not exaggerating. There's times Google has glommed onto the worst question as the top result and I've been like "Oh, I need to fix this"
 
@DalijaPrasnikar Plenty of people in this room say that that's the case, so I'm perfectly happy to believe it. That has not been my experience.
 
I have learned a new word today
 
@Machavity Interesting. Yeah, I'm willing to believe it, for sure.
I have had a few strange results pop up in searches. It's just not the norm for me.
 
2:06 PM
@Dharman onomatopoeia?
 
No, "glom"
 
@cigien I guess you just search for questions ;)
 
@NathanOliver Ooh, that would be nice. I'm not sure that's true for all languages though, especially if they are not compiled. I'd definitely have to do some research before writing that as a language agnostic canonical.
@JeanneDark Hey, I'm not going anywhere near that tag, I hear it's a disaster ;)
Actually, that's mostly true. I do search in , and and and sometimes in , and there is more junk when I do those searches. I've mostly been attributing that to my having less knowledge of that content, and hence not being able to figure out the right terms to search for.
Actually, with vim searches I don't usually end up finding a good SO result before I find something else better, so that's slightly different.
 
I made a new room, but realized it seems like a "fork"... do the founders of this room want me to take it down?
 
guys I need a little advice, I have finally reached 2k rep so I can do edit reviews, I got to an edit where a guy replaced image of code by code. I have read in some post we should not do that, as we can introduce errors. I cant find the meta post tho. Found other post where they say I should do that. So is there any consensus on this?
should I approve or reject such edit?
 
2:21 PM
@Ruli It depends on the edit really. If it's clear to you that the transcription from the image to the code is better, then it's an improvement, and I think the edit should be approved.
You still have to bear in mind the complex set of rules regarding not accepting the edit if it's the first edit after the question was closed, and if that edit by itself is not going to make the question eligible to be reopened.
But that's orthogonal to your question about accepting edits that transcribe images of code.
 
@AnnZen I don't think we have a problem with you making your own room. The catch for us has been that you chose to name it SOCVR#2 (which is confusing). And while it might seem cool to be "SOCVR without the rules", it's important to remember we have the rules so we can abide with the community we want to help
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Cody's relevant answer: "If you're willing, the task is reasonable in scope, and by doing so the finished product would be an otherwise on-topic, answerable question for Stack Overflow, you can edit the question yourself to transcribe the image into text."
 
@Machavity What about the current name?
 
From the same answer: "Remember that Stack Overflow is not a help desk. Our mission is not so much to help the asker, but rather to build up a library of high-quality Q&A on programming topics. Helping the asker is a nice side benefit, but our model is much more akin to Wikipedia than some hypothetical HireAProgrammer.com."
@AnnZen It might be confused with this room and actions taken in your room might be blamed on the actual SOCVR.
 
@JeanneDark Actions taken in my room?
 
2:35 PM
@AnnZen I'm not sure #2 SOCVR is much better, but it does emphasize the #2 at least. I'd still prefer it had a different name entirely. Remember that there's more than a few places on Meta where "SOCVR" is discussed (for better or worse) and people looking for a specific moderation discussion would probably not find it in your room
I'm sure you'd have the same problem if I were to rename myself to "#2 Ann Zen"
 
@JeanneDark I'm not sure how that's the relevant meta. Ruli is not asking whether they should edit the post or not, but whether they should accept or reject an already existing edit.
 
@Machavity I'll change the name :) P.S. I'd be flattered.
 
@cigien They wrote "I have read in some post we should not do that, as we can introduce errors." while Cody makes clear that transcribing images of code in itself is not forbidden.
 
@JeanneDark I see. Since you hadn't responded to a specific message, I assumed you meant to respond to the last one that Ruli wrote. My bad.
 
How's "Reviewers Of SO and Friendly Chats"?
 
2:41 PM
@AnnZen There are no rules on SE what is permitted and what not in "forking" a room. There are no founders around atm but you're free to start and name a room as you see fit. I assume you're happy with dealing with the confusion your new room might cause. Keep in mind we're not your Meta room, as in: where we decide on what is best for your room. Take that else where.
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@rene "where we decide on what is best for your room"?
I didn't ask for any...
 
Yes you did. You are asking about what the right name is.
Naming things is hard.
 
@rene No, I'm asking if it's different enough.
 
@AnnZen I don't care if it is different enough. That is your call, it is your room
 
2:47 PM
@rene you don't mind?
 
@rene I guess you are not half blind then ;P
 
Please note that as a room owner you have to make sure that there is nothing against the SO rules being done in your room. e.g. organized voting.
 
@AnnZen Sounds good to me
 
@Dharman Of course.
 
@AnnZen SE doesn't mind There are no rules on SE what is permitted and what not in "forking" a room.
 
2:49 PM
@rene Yeah, but I don't want to break any moral rules...
 
@AnnZen LOL
 
bye
 
@AnnZen As a good practice according to me try to come up with something new, something that is yours, forking room's will only generate confusion and it's unclear to other users "How and if they are related"
We had similar issue of people creating SOBotics on SE.ru chat server.. since they were not related to our activity we asked them if they could change and they nicely did so.
 
@PetterFriberg In Soviet Russia, you flag robot. Er, wait...
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3:18 PM
Is this HTML question salvagable? stackoverflow.com/questions/65769023/…
Ok, my head will explode. I have absolutely no idea what is going on with that question and the answers
 
> alrighty so I know im going to get downvoted to hell because that's how asking questions work
With questions like these, that's a given. :|
 
I edited out that bit. Maybe it saves the author some downvotes. =P
 
I can't afford to downvote that question
 
I think for every 1000 downvotes, you should get one more per day. Better limit it to 10 total extra.
 
For every 1000 downvotes, award 1 rep.
And a waffle.
 
Can I skip the rep and get two waffles instead?
 
@NathanOliver Sorry, that requires 9000 downvotes.
 
$%^&!!!!
 
3:44 PM
That sounds like a yes. -9000 for you.
 
thanks for discussion, I am now a little smarter about edits (sorry for later reply, had to go afk :) ) About the second conversation with @AnnZen, what have I missed? Why are we creating a new room?
 
AnnZen is creating a new room... rene is staying with us here
 
everybody leaves
 
I like leaves.
 
:D
 
 
OT but is there a SEDE query that lists duplicate questions with delete votes but not yet deleted?
 
@oguzismail I'm not sure if we still have pending delete votes in SEDE. Let me check.
 
that was close ...
 
We have become the hive mind.
 
Thanks guys, these are great
 
@IanCampbell scary ...
 
4:38 PM
 
@PetterFriberg I see. But I don't understand, "change" as in the room's name, room's purpose, or removing the room?
 
Network Engineering has a much better success rate ;)
 
@AnnZen If it was me I would just come up with my own room name. You are free to create any room you want, but it is not very "elegant" to copy other room names, both since it's a copy but also since you confuse users like you did with DalijaPrasnikar. As it is now it seems fine :). Have fun!
 
@JeanneDark that is impressive. And they don't have an insane low number of questions either. So kudos to the curators on that site.
 
Oh dear ... somehow giving the man the answer he desires seems like the completely wrong thing to do. Close instead and relay him to information security?
 
4:52 PM
@tink Sent it to Unix.SE where it's a better question
 
Cheers @Machavity ... he's fighting an uphill battle and not "doing the right thing" ™
 
5:32 PM
@rene I am quite happy that I can't speak Portuguese
 
@rene SO close too much... except it doesn't in proportion to the questions asked :D
 
 
1 hour later…
7:36 PM
The auto flag for copy-paste multiple answers still works? Or should I flag for moderator attention for 5 copies of the same answer?
 
@desertnaut correct, there was a new answer yesterday which spurred my attention to the very old page. This qualifies the page for cvpls requests.
 
@IanCampbell I haven't heard that it isn't working, but it does require the answers be a 100% exact copy and paste job.
 
Thanks. It's 100% so I'll leave it.
 
@rene Wow, only 3.13% of questions closed in 2020 were asked in before 1/1/2020. That is quite surprising.
 
7:58 PM
@Dharman not at all
 
@mickmackusa The desired output is irrelevant here. Granted it's not a great question but it doesn't lack MCVE. It is clear and understandable.
It is a duplicate though. We have stackoverflow.com/questions/4261133/… which covers this sufficiently.
 
9:20 PM
@Dharman Okay, I am happy to see it closed with a canonical.
 
9:43 PM
@Dharman The reason that I felt it was Unclear (or perhaps Too Broad) was because as I considered how I would post an answer, there were about 6 or 7 ways to go about it and choosing the "best technique" was going to need a clearer indication of the desired output.
 
10:01 PM
@Dharman I found one of your cousins :)
 
10:24 PM
 
@TylerH ^^ this was over 6 months, but my close vote is about to expire so I posted it. (I'm somewhat confused in this case).
@rene It is perhaps worth mentioning, when Aaron Hall was elected mod one issue that came up was the creation of a second Python room. I'm not sure if it applies in this case but there has been some previous debate about rooms dedicated to the same subject.
@JeanneDark It's obvious that author was never a good writer, neither was he dexterous using a dictionary.
 
11:17 PM
50 rep is still a requirement to comment on other people's posts, right? I'm not crazy?
 
11:30 PM
@gunr2171 It is 50 rep. As to whether or not you're crazy...
 
I mean, that's still up in the air
but just wondering how this comment was made
 
overall, I don't really care, just curiosity
 
@gunr2171 it was automated from the dupe closure vote/flag, right?
 
Doesn't look like the right format for that
 
11:33 PM
There's no flags or CVs either
 
The template for CV is "Does this answer your question? <link with post title>"
 
Because of my rep level, I don't "flag" to close anymore, but I do see that the current UI allows me to "vote" to close as a duplicate AND "flag" to close as a duplicate. Is this new? I don't know. Do both of those techniques generate the same comment text? I guess the matter is moot if there are no flags or votes to close.
 
I don't know if flagging as dupe produces a comment, but voting as dupe produces the comment in the format above, which is just a rename of "Possible duplicate of <...>"
but at mac said, there are no flags, so it must be a custom comment
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@gunr2171 But the poster of the comment doesn't have sufficient rep to even raise a flag.
 
yeah, or comment, which is the big puzzle
 
11:41 PM
... unless they had that for a brief while, then lost it?
Migrate to Puzzles.SE?
 
Unless there was something deleted an hour ago, maybe. Their other posts don't have score
your avatar is a perfect representation of my mood
 
That's not an avatar, it's a photograph.
 
: )
 
Neither of the 2 answers posted by the user have any history of votes on them, so there seems to be no evidence of gained and then lost rep.
 
@mickmackusa Call Hercule Poirot - we have a mystery to solve.
 
11:51 PM
It's just software -- there must be a logic reason for this. There couldn't possibly be a ghost in the machine ...right?
 
ghost in the shell would be worse
 

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