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1:13 PM
^ needs the error
^ 9 years and only 2k views and 2 upvotes... I think that can be deleted after closure...
 
How did this answer got deleted by someone who is not the OP/Mod? stackoverflow.com/a/6709576/754119
 
Screenshot please... (<10k)
 
@AlonEitan 9 years ago the rules were probably quite different
 
I think there was a time when trusted users could delete it with a single vote
 
1:20 PM
Oh, that is interesting... But the deleting using is not that high rep
 
they have pretty high rep on Ask Different and meta ... maybe many of their answers have been migrated to those sites over the years?
 
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Q: Synomize or blacklist [vanilla] tag

LiamIt seems someone has created a vanilla in reference to Vanilla Javascript, which isn't a thing. The language is Javascript, We don't have vanilla-c# or Vanilla-Java so it makes no sense to have vanilla js or the vanilla at all. This is related to this question Synomize or blacklist [vanilla-js] t...

 
well not to meta but sweng etc
 
@AlonEitan I see. The linkedin page says she was a CM for 10 months in 2011
 
@Dharman Oh! So that all makes sense now :) Thanks
 
1:23 PM
curious: timeline has a "tweeted" event apple.stackexchange.com/posts/26834/timeline
(so, nice hypothesis above but clearly not true)
 
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place but I have a bit of a problem: my question was answered in comment but has also been closed, now I'm not entirely certain on how to proceed, do I try to get the questioned opened again, or leave it closed or what. (question stackoverflow.com/questions/65337345/…)
 
1:36 PM
Ah, no idea if one of you guys did it but the question has been reoppened, thanks!
 
@AlonEitan Thanks, I missed that
 
NP :)
 
@Yatin It was not trolling per se. They just wanted to post thanks, so they entered it in the username. The user is not registered so they can be removed and probably should.
 
Ohk👍
@Dharman they strike again
 
Ok, then now it is trolling
 
1:51 PM
@Thijser Please don't add the answer in the question itself...
 
@Yatin what would you consider a good solution in this case? I'm going to remove that part of the question once a proper answer can be made, but I can't answer the question myself and it seems unlikely that someone looking for the answer is going to go through that massive comment chain
 
@rene if you are here, please send some messages to the graveyard...
 
 
@IanCampbell Congratulations on your secret hat :) I did it for science :)
 
Thank you @rene
 
@Scratte I guess we figured it out then.
 
@IanCampbell Yes. I went to the Winter Bash room with my suspicions, but at first they seemed to be more interested in getting the hat than figuring out the exact trigger, so.. I used you here :)
@IanCampbell The irony of the message I used is not entirely lost on me :D
 
@Dharman no hats for DharmanBot? Doesn't it feel left out :)
 
2:18 PM
What hat are you talking about? I need more hats
 
@Scratte You're feeding the addiction.
 
My bot hasn't earned any hats
I wonder which hat I could get for it without breaking any rules
 
Same ones as the others maybe... (I forgot there were rules on bots... )
 
@IanCampbell I know.. I'm doing while having a coffee. I guess I'm all about not quitting :D
@Dharman The hat that both I and IanCampbell is currently wearing.
 
@Dharman it should have default hat... the mouth cover
 
2:26 PM
@Dharman Surely it can 'visit' a question ... that gets the mask.
 
or flag some stuff :) as long as you don't flag it also
 
@Yatin I think so. Not a good one, though. Worthy of downvotes - maybe. Worthy of NAA flags - probably not.
 
@AdrianMole same... I wonder if editing could save it...
 
@Yatin I looked, twice. I can't do anything with it but maybe somebody can.
 
2:30 PM
Yea I can only think of removing the "Could you please" part... nothing else makes sense... I will ask the author to imporve it...
Ah... I was writing a comment... but it was deleted :(
@Yatin @rene please trash this request. OP edited...
 
@rene What's with the flower power?
 
chill
 
I'm sure TylerH is wearing a hat.. it's just that the hat in on the head and the head was cut off ;)
 
Flags. Hats or not hats? The debate continues.
 
Flats?
 
@Scratte I turn hats off every year
 
@E_net4seespatterns that hand's color matches very well with the color of the crab :)
 
2:53 PM
@Yatin Indeed.
 
@CodyGray That's a very good argument to not follow "rules" blindly.
 
3:17 PM
How did they add the code? stackoverflow.com/revisions/65337909/2
 
@Yatin From the comment under the question.
 
Ah okay..
 
3:30 PM
I didn't think this hat thing would be this much fun :)
 
@Scratte Same.. I didn't even think they would fit :D
 
@Yatin I saw your hats on hat, so I figured.. why not? :)
 
:D
Hats hats hats!
 
3:47 PM
@Scratte Your starring of my comment for science has propelled me to tied for #1 on the hat leaderboard... somehow.
 
What do you think about this question? It is an error dump followed by a link that has the instructions (sd report; not spam)... I wonder what will happen if the link died. How useful will the question be? Also is it flaggable? Closeable?
 
Wait, you can get a hat for starred message?
 
@Yatin general computing closeable fir sure
 
@IanCampbell I was impressed by your collection of hats when I checked your profile to see if you were a good candidate for science :)
 
Thank you @rene :)
 
3:51 PM
@Dharman Yes. You and someone else asked me how I got the hat, so I decided to find out. It takes 3.. :)
 
@Dharman Star star star! :p
 
Which hat do you get then?
 
Go to the winter bash hat list and check out the anonymous edit :)
 
So if you say "Hats hats hats" like beetlejuice you get a hat?
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No.. that doesn't work at all. You'll get it for 3 stars on you message :)
 
3:54 PM
@Dharman nah that was just me getting overexcited :p
 
Hats Hats Hats!
 
I expect those starred messages are going to get removed once a Room Owner comes along and see them. If you want the hat by unnatural ways go to WB Starring Room
 
waffles
 
@Dharman You might find some answers here Winter bash 2020 ;)
 
3:59 PM
- Jen: “Ask me what kind of hat I am wearing.”
- Roy: “What kind of hat are you wearing?”
- Jen: “It doesn’t matter.”
 
But it is fun :p
 
4:11 PM
 
4:35 PM
Can moderators see revision histories of usernames?
 
@Scratte I believe so
 
Only moderators with special glasses maybe?
 
What's the likelihood of a moderator going to check that revision history if someone's comment is R/A flagged for calling a user <censored>?
 
@Scratte 0.001%
 
Yes, that was my feeling as well.
So what to do with a comment that is using "Thanks <censored>. But I think maybe the ..."? When the user that posted the post, not the comment, has the username <censored>?
 
4:39 PM
@Scratte The same as with all other comments. Flag as NLN
 
But it is needed. It's asking about the post.
 
It's not needed anymore. The person it was directed to saw it
 
@Scratte you mean they are literally writing the words <censored>? Or they are self-censoring?
 
@Scratte Yes Your Royal Highness Supreme Ruler of SCOVR Scratte, we can :P
 
They used post author's name which out of context can be considered rude
 
4:41 PM
@TylerH No. They are writing the actual username of the user that posted. Which I'd rather not put in a message here.
@Machavity lol! I'm not even a Room Owner here :)
 
@Scratte you can flag it as NLN if the addressed user has responded. If the addressed user has not changed their name yet, you can flag the post and alert mods that the username is offensive
I have not experienced a declined flag when reporting an offensive username before (I think I've flagged a few over the years)
 
I'm not even entirely sure how offensive it is. I'm sure some users would find it very offensive though, but I'm not sure if that's the cutoff.
I noticed another one that calls themselves "IdiotSomething". Can't remember the "Something". Whenever someone pings them in a comment Queen sets off :)
 
@Scratte Someone ended their name with "Kkk". I don't think they were trying to evoke anything racist, but when someone flagged it I removed it. Remember, normal users can only change names every 30 days
 
Well.. if having "kkk" at the end of one's username is enough then this one sure is too.
 
@Scratte Congrats on 3000 helpful flags too
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4:48 PM
@Machavity Thanks :) Please don't check when I raised my last one..
 
Too late. I'm curious what this username you're flagging is :P
 
My stance on offensive names is as it has always been: If there is some indication that it was meant to meant to offend people then it should be purged. If it's possible this is a coincidence and does not have an obviously rude/offensive meaning in English then leave it be. People have strange names in some parts of the world. Just because someone is called Hugh Jazz, doesn't mean they are trying to offend you.
 
LOL! That is a little funny, since I avoid custom flags :)
@Dharman I think I'm not familiar with why that would be offensive.
@Machavity I think you can find out looking at Dharman's flags :)
 
@Scratte There's a backlog on custom flags atm and I bet half are Dharman's at the rate he flags :P
 
I thought you guys could find a user's flag from their flag lists and check out what flags they raised in a certain time period.
 
4:58 PM
@mck We don't discuss users in here. If you feel a user is engaged in bad behavior you can ask in Charcoal HQ or mod flag. In the case of socks, mod flag is probably faster
 
But as pointed few messages before there is a backlog of my flags
 
Oof.. I'm not liking the added diamond on moderators on chat..
 
Why do mods now have 3 diamonds each?
 
3/5 are secrets hats that I've got.
 
5:12 PM
@janw I see 2
 
Yeah, probably some side effect from a user script
 
oof yeah when did that happen
 
@janw That's even worse. I like it before the username only.
 
@Scratte well on the site it is after the username
 
@TylerH Yes, but when I added it at the back in my userscript is got cut off.
 
5:14 PM
sounds like a problem with your implementation :-P
but yes, the URRS user script adds a diamond to the beginning of moderator usernames, if anyone is seeing double and wants to change that
you can turn it off by clicking the options gear wheel icon
 
I'd like to keep mine in front of the username and turn the one at the back off :)
Long username will be cut off and having it cut off while still maintaining the diamond as the last character seems.. strangely inconsistent to me.
 
@Scratte You can hide it with div.moderator > span { display: none } on the domain chat.stackoverflow.com
 
That would be using stylus, no?
I think perhaps it would be better for me if I keep it in the user script.
Ah.. I'm so silly. That I can do. Thanks :)
Argh!.. They're not consistent! :(
<div class="username moderator owner" style="display: block;">Machavity&nbsp;♦</div>
 
I have no words for that kind of.. development.
 
@AdrianMole Thanks :) But I'm not using that script. :)
 
Regarding yesterday's.... conversation? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/27871503
One reviewer recommended deletion for an answer that isn't NAA.
 
@Scratte No mugs though..
@10Rep You can post that in the bad review's room. You may want to say that it's the deleting that you find to the the bad review ;)
 
@10Rep Why it isn't?
 
@Braiam It's the policy. We had this discussion only yesterday. Your opinion on the matter doesn't change that.
 
5:44 PM
@Scratte 100k 😭 That is too far
 
@Braiam Yeah, it's a policy. It provides code to answer the question.
 
@Yatin I think it's always been 100K
 
wait what?
nothing for the users who moderate the site?
 
@10Rep I think you need to read the entire post.. one more time :)
Unless you mean "curators". Then that's a hobby.. no pen for you. You're using a mouse and a keyboard anyway ;)
 
@10Rep What? Are you reading the question? The question says "I have a problem with code that I'm not showing", the answer responds "since you aren't showing the relevant code, I can't reproduce it"
 
5:49 PM
@Scratte I meant curators, yes. Sometimes it gets stresful, ya know?
 
@Braiam It also says: These are the characters that I'm having issues with.
And we don't punish users for posting Answers on closable posts, just for posting.
If you see a pattern, you can raise a custom flag.
 
@Braiam The answer says, "this is the encoding you need to use".
 
Really?
@10Rep "You'll need to post your code that "doesn't work" since I am unable to replicate your issue."
 
@10Rep Just add 4 zeros and a comma to your username (not in that order, though). Maybe you'll confuse them sufficiently into sending you a swag bag.
 
@Braiam That is because they cannot fix the code, but they posted a demonstration instead.
 
5:52 PM
Question: "For this, what 'encoding=' do i have to use for DataFrame.to_csv in order to save it without mis-printed characters?"

Answer: "This is the encoding".
 
You get Cruse of Oil for upvoting a post today. Nice
 
@10Rep Again, no. The answer says what I posted. It's comment at best.
 
@Dharman Nope.. downvoting works too. Any interaction will get your the hat :)
 
@10Rep +1
@Scratte Lol
 
The question is closed anyways, so the answer shouldn't have been posted.
 
5:53 PM
@Braiam There isn't a rule that says, "Don't post answers to closable questions.".
 
I have to agree with 10Rep, if we boil the question down to "what 'encoding=' do i have to use?", and the answer to "df.to_csv(buff, index=False, encoding='UTF-8')". It seems like a valid attempt to answer.
 
Yep
 
@Braiam You can make it your mission to get rid of Answers on closed posts. There are some by very high reputation users too. Might get you a little push back :D
 
@10Rep You are moving goalpost. And yes, it does. Read "Answer well-asked questions" on the help center.
 
But the meta about this says to focus on the Question and not on the Answers.
 
5:55 PM
@IanCampbell No, the OP should show what it's doing. Since it doesn't, at best the answerer is guessing.
 
@Braiam That's a guideline with a blurry line.
 
@Braiam Just because it's guessing doesn't mean it's NAA.
Nor should it be deleted in the LQP.
 
@10Rep Again, moving goalpost. It's a bad answer to a bad question.
 
I totally agree, it's a bad answer, not "not an answer".
 
@Braiam That is not a reason to delete it in the queue.
 
5:56 PM
If we stop doing mental gymnastics and take the answer for it face value: both question and answer should be deleted.
@IanCampbell Bad answer for me is answer that should be deleted. NAA's are just one of many reasons.
 
We also do not just delete bad Questions. We downvote them. If they're not fit for Stack, we close them.
 
The question should be deleted. Answer was fine but will die with the question
 
@Braiam What do you mean by "moving goalpost"? Plus, it may be a bad answer, but it shouldn't be deleted by users in the LQP.
 
The Question is going to Roomba..
 
But recommending deletion in the review queue, for something that isn't truly NAA, is sort of cheating yourself into delete-vote privileges. Those who have 20K can delete-vote any answer they consider, of itself, poor enough. Even if it is an answer.
 
5:59 PM
@AdrianMole That too..
 
@10Rep The fact that you aren't addressing the main issue: the answer shouldn't have been posted in the first place. Instead, you argue saying that the rules don't say this or that when they are tangential to the point: the answer needs deletion.
You haven't provided any reason why it shouldn't be deleted.
While I provided several arguments that support being deleted.
 
It shouldn't be deleted through the NAA flag.
 
@10Rep Don't go there.. it's a trick argument.
 
Just saying that it isn't a NAA is not enough, you have to demonstrate so.
And the fact is, that the answer is asking for the code that OP didn't provide so the issue can't be debugged.
 
@Braiam Everyone has demonstrated that it's not NAA. The policy is to not delete posts in the queue unless it's NAA. That's it. There's no more to it.
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6:01 PM
^
 
Why star ^ lol
 
It does look funny :)
 
I think that's my first starred message in here :D
 
Lol 😂
 
6:04 PM
If I come across a really poor answer in LQP (but that is an answer), I'll open it up in a separate link, skip the review, then cast a delete vote (and down vote, most often) outside the queue. That actually has much the same effect, in some ways (my delete vote will add to any acquired in review) ... but I'm a big boy, and I'm allowed to do that.
 
1 2 3 stars :D
Keep it that way plz
 
pretty
 
It would be complete if the 1 showed next to the first one
 
Ohh.. it looks like a tree :)
 
^^^^^^^^^^
... just tryin' :-)
 
6:06 PM
lol!.. nice try :)
 
For instance, this is NAA, right? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/27871790
 
@10Rep Yep. That was NAA. Should've been an edit by OP.
 
The question still stands
 
@NathanOliver Can this request be binned please? The post is under discussion on meta.
 
6:14 PM
Did you get a hat for getting a gold badge?
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, under discussion on Meta
 
Congrats on gold #6
 
@AdrianMole I'll have to wait and see.
lots of caching involved
 
Steward seems to be especially slow
 
Well SO needs to cache the hats as well, so I'll wait an hour at most :)
 
@Braiam Note FAQ#15, in particular "If you know a question is under discussion on Meta, that question is off-limits since Meta effect is in play and we are not above Meta. While we do not expect every user to know all discussions on Meta, we also do not want willful involvement of the room to try and resolve what should be resolved through discussions on Meta."
You made the request in here several hours after participating in the meta discussion. This counts as "willful involvement", and is not allowed here. Please refrain from doing that.
 
@cigien Because it was correctly closed.
It's a typo issue.
 
@Braiam the point is your are breaking room rules, not whether @Braiam is right.
 
@Braiam That is a really poor argument. That argument implies that you were aware that you were breaking the rule at the time you made the request. Was that the case?
 
@rene I'm following the spirit of the rule. Consensus was to get that question closed.
The only reason why it's not closed was because this room involvement.
 
6:22 PM
@Braiam I'm telling you to not do that again. Okay?
 
@Braiam It's against the rules, regardless of the closability of the post. If a question is being discussed on meta, and you know that, then don't post a request here.
 
@rene Well, then please, do not send users to ask ubuntu. We now have two questions about this both of which should be closed because OP didn't follow the manual correctly.
 
@Braiam Complying with SOCVR's rules isn't a negotiation.
 
I'm all for following the rules, but when said rules produce an undesired effect and creating more work overall I really have to wonder "do this rule even make sense?"
 
You seem to miss the point. DO NOT POST CV-PLS REQUESTS FOR QUESTIONS THAT ARE DISCUSSED ON META. It can't possibly be that you missed it was discussed there as you answered it.
 
6:27 PM
@Braiam Then bring up the issue of the rule. Do not just willfully break the rule because you think there might be a problem with it in a certain case.
 
@rene I think you are missing my point, I'm arguing about changing that.
 
Open an issue on github.
 
@Braiam If you have an issue with a rule, you can file a discussion item for a room meeting.
Deciding to ignore or flout a rule because you don't like it or think it should be changed is not the right course of action.
 
@TylerH Where? The socvr.org doesn't link to github anymore.
 
6:30 PM
And yes, I did check, that's why I'm discussing this here.
 
@Braiam No. You're discussing it because the issue came up as a direct result of you intentionally breaking the rule. That's not how you should start this type of discussion. You didn't bring up the discussion.
 
Why is that rule in place?
 
Because we don't want to overturn community consensus
 
@10Rep Because we don't moderate Meta. Once something is on Meta, it's something that should be decided by Meta. It shouldn't be something we organize to oppose by casting our votes on the post.
 
We have a delicate relationship with meta.
 
6:34 PM
@10Rep There are many users who aren't very aware of or who refuse to participate in chat, or specifically in this chatroom, but they do participate in Meta discussions. That is another reason why, once something's on Meta, we don't apply our focused lens to questions under discussion there
 
I guess that makes sense. Meta is a volatile place, and it will explode anytime.
 
@10Rep Spam
 
I flagged it as spam, and then retracted it, because I wasn't sure :(
 
6:51 PM
Heh! The ^^ comment gave me a -^- hat!
 
I just got cruise oil for view spoiler
 
Can new users with 1 rep vote to undelete their own question that was deleted by 20kers?
 
@cigien Good question. I saw a couple of very odd posts that had 1 undelete vote that seemed quite out of place.
 
Is this stackoverflow.com/questions/62655458 a programming question? Found it via an SD report.
 
7:03 PM
@VLAZ Yeah, just saw stackoverflow.com/questions/65346721 and can't think of any other explanation for the undelete vote.
 
@cigien They can vote to undelete, but it's not binding (it used to be, and they used to be able to do it repeatedly)
 
@IanCampbell Yes, but please keep spam related conv in Charcoal
 
@TylerH What does binding mean exactly?
 
@cigien unilaterally
e.g. if you delete your own question, you do it by yourself
takes only one person (you)
likewise you can undelete your own question by yourself if you were the one who deleted it
 
@cigien single vote to close/open. Gold badge dupe votes are binding. As are mod votes.
 
7:05 PM
@TylerH Ah, I see, thanks. Glad that's no longer a feature :)
 
@cigien only if I read it as how do I use the API but then I find a lot of info missing.
 
@rene Hmm, the question could be that asking that, I can't tell. Maybe Needs Clarity, but I think I'll leave it. Thanks.
@Dharman That's what I thought till recently, but apparently discussing a single post is acceptable. It's only if the discussion goes on to multiple posts by some user does it need to be moved to Charcoal. At least, that's what I understood of Machavity's explanation when I asked about this.
 
Yeah, but with spam the discussion most often is about users
In this case they posted 3 answers all linking to their channel with no disclaimer
 
@10Rep Hmm.. I just got it without the reason you mention
 
@Dharman Now that is an example of a message that should be made in Charcoal instead of here, since it's now obvious which user you're referring to :)
 
7:15 PM
Haha, I was thinking the same thing.
 
Just making my point. I can't justify my "yes" without discussing the user, so the whole conversation should happen in Charcoal
 
My thought process for linking the single post was, "well, why is there a 'flag-pls' button that creates posts in this chat if it wasn't OK?"
 
For when you used up all 2 of your NAA flags and you still want someone to reflag it
 
See socvr.org/faq#cv-pls-format-other-requests specifically [tag:spam]
I can see now it's probably just better for Charcoal. Sorry
 
@Dharman I don't see why not. You could say "Yes, I believe this is spam." And if someone asks why, you could say "My reasons for this are based on investigating the user's profile, and as such I can only answer this properly in Charcoal". A lot can be inferred from this response of course, but from what I understand of the intent behind the rule, this should be fine.
I don't really know though, so you should let an RO confirm either way.
 
7:22 PM
@Dharman When you say all 2? Do you mean all 100?
 
No I meant, on a single post. Your NAA and VLQ flag
You have 2 red flags and 2 NAA flags
 
Oh, that makes more sense.
 
@Dharman No. Other than the all-caps, which is annoying, but it doesn't really make it rude I think.
 
But why did they write in all caps? Is it not to make fun of OP?
 
7:32 PM
@Dharman I think it's actually pretty rude.
 
@Dharman Hmm, good point. I didn't see that the OP used all-caps as well. And the lowercase "Hope that helped :)" in the answer isn't a good sign.
 
@Vega Did you get a gold badge? Perhaps steward?
 
@IanCampbell Enough for an R/A flag? I'd raise a Cheeky flag if I could ;)
 
@10Rep Long time ago
 
@cigien No, I decided to just fix it.
 
7:35 PM
@AdrianMole Next you'll be wearing a banana skirt? :)
 
@IanCampbell Yeah, I like that. Do you want to edit the question as well? I can do it if you want.
 
@Scratte How did you get hold of those photos? ;-P
 
I don't think the question asker was rude. So I wasn't going to. Although I have Word open so it would be easy.
 
@IanCampbell No, not rude at all. Just worth editing I think, that's all.
 
@IanCampbell It's still cheeky though
 
7:38 PM
@cigien Done
@Dharman Totally agree, if it were a comment, I'd NLN it. But since I can just remove the minor offense, why not?
 
@Dharman Yeah, I left a comment. I think that should suffice.
@IanCampbell That's much better. Thanks for the edits.
 
Thank you for the well formulated comment.
 
np.
 
But the question is still very unclear.
 
@Vega The oil is for any action on the 18th (meaning as long as it's the 18th some place on the planet) according to Shadow 10 Years Wizard in the Winter Bash 2020 room.
 
7:44 PM
@Dharman Yes. What do you mean by "But"? That's a separate issue right?
 
After the edit it is still unsalvagable
 
Dharman likes to clean up every inch of a Q/A. I'm running out of close votes though.
 
@Dharman The edits were worth making regardless of the question's quality. I didn't even read the question to be honest.
You could make a request if you think it should be closed.
 
I did
 
Ah, I see. Not much more to do then.
 
7:50 PM
@AdrianMole Camera mounted under the table at your favorite pub.. ;) You really should stop going there in these infectious times..
 

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