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12:43 AM
@Scratte I removed my comment, you can remove yours now :)
 
 
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3:41 AM
Yeah, okay, I'm bored of reverting that one. Waiting for the mods to roll in.
 
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6:05 AM
SD beat me to it...
 
6:36 AM
I just wanted to share this bug my team received recently with you all, because it reminds me of some of the...ambiguous questions...that are occasionally found on SO: issuetracker.google.com/issues/169006025
 
 
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8:06 AM
@solid.py from the FAQ #15: "Do not request action on posts or edits where you are involved"
 
What Nick said
 
@Nick Sorry I missed that while reading the FAQ.
Can somebody else please close vote that question?
Me and the other guy have made so many edits, this is getting out of hand, the asker never stops.
 
@Nick I like the dupe you suggest, and added it.
 
@KarlKnechtel great - I've bookmarked it myself for later use...
 
8:15 AM
@solid.py best thing to do is take your +1 and walk away...
 
Can someone point me to a meta page that instructs posters to use example.com instead of a NSFW domain like 3 x's? I can't seem to find it.
 
@Nick I think you are right. I wouldn't rewrite my answer, too much effort, for little to no gain.
 
@mickmackusa Is it this one? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/255166/5468463
 
@Makyen congratulations on making me do more work than I've ever done for a suggested edit review before :-) including reading a very poorly formatted table in the Orange County municipal code...
 
8:47 AM
@RyanM I'm glad I was able to set a record. :) BTW: I agree that it should have been an "or", rather than an "and"; also that the question no longer being a Hot Network Question, means the paragraph I'd placed first is not as important as a disclaimer and that the end is better for it (i.e. the question's normal audience is more likely to be reading the whole thing, and be both more likely to be paying attention to details, and less likely to assume expansive applicability).
 
Glad we're in agreement there, I had to read it a couple times before I was confident in the law's meaning :-) Separately, I think the vehicle would have to be entirely indoors: the six-foot fence isn't adequate for an inoperable vehicle.
 
9:01 AM
@RyanM I agree, no, it's not.
 
@tripleee clearing out ancient dupes are we?
 
@Adriaan I went looking for the canonical, and found ... about 60 others too
but yeah, before that, I was idly thinking maybe I could get me a Lifeboat badge, and looked at the lowest-voted questions (pro tip: not a good way to find good questions)
speaking of which, any SEDE wizards with a query for something like "negatively voted question, lots of views, no upvoted answers", in [tag]?
 
9:39 AM
@Adriaan I've voted spam also
 
10:17 AM
@tripleee Here's one that's almost what you want: High views, no answers
@tripleee And one with a small modification to enter score: High views, no answers, maxscore
 
10:39 AM
 
High views, tags, noAccept, maxscore on Answers, maxscore on Question seems to return 0 on c++ Questions, so I'm thinking there's a flaw somewhere. <-- never mind :)
 
10:58 AM
@Scratte thanks!
though how should I supply the tag in Tags LIKE '%<##TagName?%##>%'?
%bash works in the first query but not in the second
 
without %
just bash
 
(or maybe it works and something else is wrong; certainly tried without % too)
 
@tripleee You can use %bash%. I didn't fix the last one... not the comment on top, nor the fact that the Question score is strictly less than.
 
oh it's just that with maxscore 0 there are no results
with MaxScore 2 I get 500 results
or if I reduce ViewCount to 10
then I get 43 (!)
so, thanks! Just not a lot of stellar candidates in this tag I guess
 
@tripleee I've just done this one with 100, 0, %bash%, 0 and I get lots of results.
 
11:14 AM
@Scratte yeh, looking good!
 
@tripleee Afaik, you don't need sede for that stackoverflow.com/…
Views >=200, change that to "tons of views" units
BTW, only 118 without the views parameter
 
@Braiam Except tripleee wants Questions with or without Answers, just that the score on the Answers have a max.
Is anyone planning on writing a local fix for the colours of the syntax highlighting?
 
@Braiam that gets me no results; one (a merged closed question) if I reduce views
I can add closed:no
 
11:36 AM
Does anyone have a link to all the UI component of Stack? I remember seeing those once or twice. I just can't seem to find it from a link.
 
@double-beep Awesome :) Thank you :)
 
@tripleee they are not incredibly popular :)
Also you are fighting against roomba too
Oldest are from august
 
11:56 AM
 
Thanks @Vega that was a good meta link.
 
Morning
 
1:29 PM
I am out of delete votes.
 
@mickmackusa Oh, great, yw :)
 
Could be a 'how to', if not code improvement or review. I don't read POB
 
2:21 PM
Nobody visits H&I queue today, only 4 reviews til now :o stackoverflow.com/review/helper/stats
 
Can somebody exlain what happened in this question? "Has already a dulicate here: [nothing]"?!
 
@Vega I only have 4 reviews in total in that queue :P
@Turing85 This is what it looks like for me: i.stack.imgur.com/2KP0q.png
 
@Turing85 It has an old closing reason, but there is the duplicate: stackoverflow.com/q/2851938/5468463
 
That's how the duplicates look in Ye olden days; the dupe is in the question itself, in the quoted block
 
oh okay... didnt know that. Thanks @Adriaan and @Vega
 
2:25 PM
@Adriaan Ah, I wasn't expecting that little
 
@Turing85 looks like a known bug / won't fix
 
@Turing85 This is the old duplicate closure banner. You need to get someone to help you reopen and immediately close to fix the banner
 
@Dharman Somehow, I think it's not worth the effort ;)
 
@Dharman according to this meta-post, it is an answer (although very low quality).
 
2:34 PM
But doesn't it ask an unrelated question?
Imma flag it anyway
 
IMHO it is not NAA. It's not a good answer, but it looks to be an answer
 
What's a porgramming?
 
@JohnDvorak It's what happens when a wave of Porgs rush the line in a battle ;)
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2:50 PM
so cute
 
Initially I thought they were too cute to shoot, but apparently that was just normal stormtrooper aim
 
That's just what happens when you max out your lightsaber skills and then find you there's not enough lightsabers for all of your clones
 
who knew Vader's greatest enemy would be economies of scale
@Turing85 oh no, if bots are asking how to solve captchas on Stack Overflow now, we are really doomed
 
@TylerH we are only doomed if they reward correct solutions with upvotes and accepted answers.
 
That already happens (-:
at least that's what I tell myself with my eyes shut and my fingers in my ears
 
Is there any action to be taken if SO has an existing tag about a library that's no longer maintained (6+ years) and only has a total of 16 questions using the tag in its lifespan?
 
@icecub Nah, there's no point. At least it's correctly used.
 
Alright thx :)
 
@icecub What action do you have in mind? You can edit the tag description to mention that this is no longer maintained
 
I just thought about clean up efforts. Seemed kind of pointless to have a tag for it around if it's barely used at all and the library no longer being maintained either, that's all
 
3:12 PM
Leave it for historic purposes.
Someone might still find it useful
 
Ye makes sense. Will do, thx :)
 
Silly opinionated question: should string literals be highlighted in green or red? If you have a red-green weakness, you're disqualified to answer :D
 
@Scratte what's the difference? (I have a red-green weakness 😛 )
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@Turing85 SO seemingly cares little for those of us with poor colour vision.
 
@Scratte I'm used to seeing them as a burnt umber mostly
 
3:19 PM
@TylerH Never heard of umber
 
@DavidBuck so much for being open and welcoming x)
 
Names don't tell me much. Tell me RGB code
 
@Scratte Jon Umber, known as Greatjon Umber and the Greatjon, is Lord of the Last Hearth and head of House Umber, a vassal family to the Starks of Winterfell.
 
@Dharman #635147
 
3:21 PM
@Turing85 that's hex
 
@TylerH 99, 81, 71, 1
RGBA to be exact.
 
@TylerH Thanks. Looks like chocolate :)
 
it is not an official web color so various resources will naturally report different RGB(a) values
 
3:40 PM
@TylerH I just can't really handle the new syntax-highlighting, so I figured I'd make a change to them.
 
Well.. the new highlighing is broken. What is the difference between the first and the second line?!? reference
 
It is definitely broken. It thinks PHP is XML code
I think it only works for Python now
 
@Scratte what post is that from?
HTML and CSS seem OK from what I've seen
 
@Scratte light background?!
 
3:48 PM
also, ^
 
must be one of your userscripts interfering
OK, can confirm problem with your link
I miss instant highlight previews
 
@AndrasDeak All I did was assign different colours to the classes.. so I was pretty sure it wasn't at my end :)
 
@Scratte Fixed :-) (sort of)
 
TylerH fixed it :) Yay :)
 
the issue was with the code being detected as all JavaScript from the question's tag but that answerer was writing HTML with <script> elements
 
3:51 PM
Do you think it's the quote markdown that broke it? There's no reason for the first line ot be different in any language.
 
@AndrasDeak it could be
 
oh well
 
nope, removing the preceding quote line doesn't change the highlighting in the preview
 
You see highlighting in the preview?
mine usually doesn't run
 
@AndrasDeak yeah, it just takes a couple seconds to apply
it's annoying because any click or change will reset the timer
Dang. I finally finished running this PowerShell script to harvest SharePoint site users across our entire environment. Took an hour and 45 minutes to run. Now I am realizing I should have piped the output (tabular data) to a csv instead of a text file X-(
@DavidBuck there's a NAA by the OP in that thread as well
 
3:55 PM
@TylerH is it hard to convert now? Ambiguous fields?
 
@AndrasDeak well if I copy it over to Excel it will just put all the contents into a single column probably
 
@TylerH Yep. Flagged that as well.
 
just change .txt to .csv
 
I mean your text file specifically, is there anything you can restore the separators from?
 
It would be easiest to just change the script to use export-csv but then I have to wait another 1.75 hours
@AndrasDeak oh, spaces I suppose
 
3:57 PM
@DavidBuck Did you explain that this is recreated account?
 
if the data is unambiguous still you could use sed or awk to convert it in a jiffy ;)
or even tr if every space should be a comma
 
The output is like this, per site i.stack.imgur.com/coZAJ.png
 
@Dharman Oh. Sorry - missed that in TylerH's comment. We don't know that for sure. It could just be someone else commenting that the icon persists in the latest versions, or after applying the answer.
 
@TylerH hmm... I guess you could use something to regex replace multiple spaces with a comma or semicolon or whatever that works as a separator. Or even a tab.
something like ' {3,}' should match three or more spaces to replace
 
@AndrasDeak since the goal would be to get it to Excel I would probably just use an Excel formula to split text from left on spaces or something, but yeah, there are a host of potential solutions
 
4:00 PM
@TylerH my natural instinct is to avoid excel like the plague, especially for data processing, but you do what works :)
your first column has spaces in the field text, though
so do your header names
 
Yeah, taking a second look that wouldn't work after all due to inconsistent spacing
luckily the purpose for this run of the data is just to look for a single account and see what site's it exists on, so Ctrl+F will work just fine
 
for the record it's sed 's/ \{3,\}/;/g' input_file to replace with semicolons
 
but yeah before I run it again I will be changing it to export-csv instead :-)
 
4:27 PM
This question seems like it should be a duplicate of something, but I have yet to find a good target. It might also be lacking MCVE, but if it is, its unlikely to be Roomba'ed because of the answers.
 
@code11 I would argue that it is not (inherently) programming-related.
 
@Turing85 I agree and have flagged it, but definitely been burned on generic algorithm stuff like this before in the review queues
 
@code11 this should suffice ;)
 
\o
o/
 
4:40 PM
@halfer you had the opportunity of flagging it as duplicate and didn't use it? x)
 
@halfer ok so I'm well acquainted with 'me too' NAAs but this is the first 'me too' question I've seen.
 
@TylerH Can you import into some library that understands fixed width?
 
@Turing85 Yeah, I didn't think it mattered here. Would it delete quicker if it was marked as a dup?
@code11 Yup, they happen - new users who want to bump a post, but don't have enough rep to comment
 
@halfer probably not
 
{ thumbs up }
 
4:43 PM
@halfer it's slightly more common that one user posts the same question multiple times.
 
Pandas and R do, you can use them to export to csv @TylerH
 
So I know it was not the right way to do things, but the "Thanks" feature got me thinking. What if there was a "Me too" button? The difference is that it wouldn't actually do anything, except change color on click and maybe upvote the question, but it would provide a clear lightening rod for those who would be tempted to make an answer.
 
@code11 the lightning rod is the upvote functionality. =)
 
@Turing85 That works for 15 reputation users :) Not so much for new ones..
 
@Scratte and you think a "me too"-button would fix that?
 
4:51 PM
@Turing85 Absolutely not! :D
I'm happy.. I'm seeing colours again :) Too bad the time to fix that was time taken away from reviewing..
 
@Scratte I suspect the problem with those is the same I raised before. It is easy to close something that has no info; if it has some, especially code, its hard to point out that it is missing debug info or clear expected results.
 
@SurajRao since it was a rollback, there should be an auto flag. A mod flag wouldn't hurt though.
 
Rob
@SurajRao No automatic flag, unless you count watching SOCVR :)
 
ah so better to flag if it's not a rollback. Thanks!
 
5:07 PM
I'd even flag if it was a rollback
mods need flags to stay happy ;)
 
Rob
Can't see any moderator declining a flag even if there was an automatic flag, anyway :). That automatic flag in particular, though, is almost always a false positive
 
@Braiam that would probably be a lot more work than it's worth. But I've already finished the work I needed to do with the output file anyway
 
Rob
@AndrasDeak Hmm, I can't agree with that, and haven't really seen it in action. That said, I also can't see the 'original' flag as it's merely a FAQ, so perhaps there was something else going on that triggered the post
 
@Rob Yeah, but I don't remember that part :)
probably a throwaway issue anyway
 
5:12 PM
@TylerH If you have to do it more than twice, you better automate that :D
 
Rob
Perhaps it was a symptom of the default moderator UI before the advent of Shog's userscripts ;)
 
Also, something something excel introduces errors something something geneticist renaming stuff so that excel doesn't mess it up something
 
@Braiam Like I said above, I updated the script already to use export-csv instead of writing to a .txt file so it's already fixed for the next theoretical run. But there's no 'automating' in this case because I just Ctrl+F'd through the records. In a CSV I would have opened it and just clicked "filter to this user" so about the same number of steps anyway.
I knew ahead of time the user should only be on a handful of sites (e.g. 1 to 3)... turns out I got records for 6 sites but most of the sites included a generic group like "everyone" or "all 365 users" rather than the specific user account listed explicitly.
 
@code11 This one is not very hard though. The code is clearly off-site.
The thing that puzzles me with these reviews is that there's a huge hint in my comment. It seems reviewers do not read those. I don't understand why.
 
@TylerH Ah, lucky. We have some systems here that only export to xls (not xlsx but xls) and can't be scripted, only clicking operations
 
 
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6:28 PM
@Braiam sounds like an opportunity for process improvement :-D
requiring xls format but not allowing automation is like... well I cant think of a comparison silly enough right now
 
@TylerH Software is 3rd party, so yeah :D
We got access to the database but we don't have access to the queries that is used by the app :(
 
wat
 
Yep
 
well at least you can then run your own queries through sql reporting services or something
assuming sql server
 
I had to use wireshark to figure some of them out
Luckily no tls used between the app and the server
 
6:51 PM
@Braiam oof
 
7:32 PM
Is this question off-topic? If so: is it off-topic b/c review request?
 
Review request doesn't automatically make it off-topic. That being said that doesn't look very good.
I don't know java but it's probably too much to be MCVE-ish and too little to be complete code to review (I can't see public static void main which I heard is cool in javanese)
if I knew java I might vote as something
 
well.... a fully-fledged MVCE would involve a database schema and a full springboot-project... so no, it's not a MVCE
 
8:00 PM
@Turing85 Aren't most of those without the actual database, but just a description of the table involved?
 
@Scratte yes. And it's annoying as hell.
 
@Turing85 But how are you going to make an true mcve? You won't have access to their database.
 
@Scratte flyway + docker-compose, for example.
 
@Turing85 I went for ice-cream while they were teaching about flyway :( But docker.. hmm.. doesn't is need a database file too?
 
@Scratte Ministry of silly hats?
 
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10:38 PM
@Dharman I would like to meet that cat, it seems to be a better programmer than a lot of people.
(I think you may have linked the wrong post, as it was closed with the last vote cast by you)
 
Nah. Someone was just so quick that in the time I was pressing the button the CV came
Ever since I wrote that bot I started noticing many more questions not in English.
 
oh right, I forgot that you send cv-pls concurrently with casting the vote
that question is terrible in Spanish, too :-p
 
11:13 PM
@eyllanesc I'm not familiar with Qt so I'll defer to you if you think it's still off-topic, but is that possibly a question about switching between versions of the software itself from a technical perspective? Such as if a user asked about migrating their project from IntelliJ Ultimate to Community or something like that.
(Separately, I'm also out of close votes)
Never mind, the author removed the post.
 
We have finally finished that one list of PHP questions. About 80-90% of questions removed from that nasty search I executed a few months ago.
 
@Dharman What next - MySQL?
 
@AdrianMole :D
 
hehe
 
no, definitely not. There's still plenty of mysqli questions that need to go. So far I think I managed to reduce it by about 2k questions, but there's still too many
This tag is full of unnecessary and bad advice
 
11:18 PM
I'm sure that a dev could just update posts set deletedate = curutcdate() where tags like '%<windows>%' and nobody would notice
 
I don't think anyone would notice if you did update posts set deletedate = curutcdate() where Score <0
 
@Dharman you may be happy to know that I had to port a PHP script last weekend from mysql to something newer, and I promptly went to your profile to check what I should do :-)
 
Use PDO...
Read YCS's articles first
And whatever you do, do not ask on SO how to change MySQL to mysqli
 
Isn't the mysqli module being removed?
 
No, not anytime soon.
 
11:22 PM
I did use PDO, though because I was lazy and trying to get it working, it's still executing raw queries. No user input though, so no injections.
 
There's no real reason to remove mysqli other than the fact that it's difficult to use and no one knows how to use properly
@RyanM How can you be lazy to add one extra line?
 
Our server got a surprise upgrade from PHP version I-don't-even-want-to-know-how-old-it-was and suddenly the page stopped working
 
Seriously, SQL injection is not about user input. It's about putting variables into SQL directly.
 
I know, I'll probably fix it at some point. I wanted to do one thing at a time, starting with making sure that I'd fixed everything else the host randomly changed out from under us...
Like changing the database name, deleting all the database users, changing all our other usernames, deleting our mercurial installation...
Bringing the site back online after discovering that Mercurial automatically changes file permissions to something the server doesn't like...
(did you know that Mercurial doesn't track file permissions beyond a single bit for "executable"? I know that now...)
 
@RyanM The issue is related to Qt license support. Qt offers 2 types of license: Enterprise (paid) and LGLP (free), and you cannot change your license, the problem of the OP is that he tries to do so.
 
11:27 PM
It's likely that your system has many more issues if it was sitting on such an old PHP release. Your code is probably a spagetthi code and you would need to completely rewrite it.
This is the problem with web applications. You can never stop. You need to constantly update it and maintain it. If you leave it alone for a few years the best thing you can do is delete it and start fresh
Whereas Software in C++ can be compiled with VC++05 and still work to this day.
 
Yeah, you're not wrong. Fortunately it's a relatively simple page, so it wouldn't be too much effort. Probably lower down on the priority list after recreating the Flash slideshow that I took down last year... (I'm not, for the record, getting paid to do this, or I'd be more on top of it)
 
I prefer very opionated web frameworks not so much for local apps
 
There's also the issue that if you are running such application you are probably dealing with user data. You are liable for storing it and your responsibility is to do it properly. You need to apply patches, upgrade PHP/server and make sure you follow the right security procedures (e.g. never store passwords anywhere on the server)
 
Oh, and getting SSL on the server. Before the upgrade...well, let's just say that the version of OpenSSL installed on the server wasn't vulnerable to Heartbleed because it predated the introduction of the bug.
No user data, fortunately, or I'd have been more concerned. Just an events calendar. It's a website for a small local business in my hometown that I'm particularly fond of.
@eyllanesc thanks, that's interesting, that's a weird license model. So they're actually different in ways beyond just needing to comply with different license terms?
 
11:46 PM
@eyllanesc Is there a practical difference?
 
@RyanM @Braiam Yes, with the enterprise license more features such as new modules are enabled.
 

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