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12:06 AM
Noooo, my delete votes...
 
 
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2:24 AM
@bad_coder this post is too old to qualify for a cv-pls, and if you think it's a bad question that warrants closing, it probably warrants a downvote: you could always downvote it and it would be deleted by roomba.
 
2:38 AM
@bad_coder Our limit for required "recent activity" for cv-pls requests is 6 months. This question is closer to 8 months. Please see FAQ #11. Is there some other activity that is not obvious from the question page?
 
2:56 AM
@Makyen The question had the documentation tag which I was about to remove per tag-wiki instruction (question about python-sphinx dispense the documentation tag). But then I thought it would be more appropriately closed as a recommendation request (the authors original intent wasn't a "how to" that would allow for editing). Then I thought of the Roomba, but flagging the last comment seemed potentially risky. So I thought the soundest approach was posting here.
 
@bad_coder There were a variety of ways to dispose of the question. Some have already been covered here. You've mentioned a few. People also might have been willing to let the activity requirement slid if you explained in the request, etc.
 
4:27 AM
Hey guys, a small doubt, I was lurking around on meta and came across this answer.
There is a point in the answer: Can I simply create a new account?... To which, the reply is You could create a new account, but doing so violates the rules for operating multiple accounts - namely, it allows you to do something you would otherwise be restricted from doing. Penalties for violating this restriction can vary. What if the person deletes the original account and then creates a new one?
 
@d4rk4ng31 Your question is explicitly answered under the section to which you are referring. I'd add that it's common for moderators to give suspensions to those users who are attempting to get around imposed restrictions. Such suspensions are usually for at least as long as the restriction which the user is attempting to get around (i.e. such that the user at least gains nothing from attempting to get around the restriction).
 
@d4rk4ng31 I have no idea, but could this help? meta.stackexchange.com/tags/anti-recidivism-system/info
 
dbc
@d4rk4ng31 Stack overflow has stated that it is permanent by IP, it is lower level than account. For more see meta.stackexchange.com/a/86998. That was originally written nearly 10 years ago so they might have changed or improved their ban algorithm.
 
Thanks guys!
 
Also, where does one propose stuff like adding a new title in the list of dis-allowed titles (if there is such a list that is)?
 
@d4rk4ng31 On Meta Stack Overflow, or Meta Stack Exchange. Meta Stack Overflow is for both things that are Stack Overflow specific Stack Exchange Network wide problems/issues. However, as the name implies it's primarily focused on Stack Overflow. Meta Stack Exchange is for things which affect the entire Stack Exchange Network, and not for things which affect only one site (e.g. not for Stack Overflow specific issues).
 
Hmm... so I am guessing meta SO?
@Makyen, where do I find that list? I am posting on meta SO and need the list
 
@d4rk4ng31 You mean the list that's not shared, so that people won't know exactly what's needed to get around it?
 
Aww!
Okay I'll post the question anyway
Thanks :)
 
4:58 AM
np
 
@Makyen, I will just leave the link here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/401319/…
Thanks a lot :)
 
@Vega It's not intended to be an answer and should be an edit, but in the loosest sense is an answer.... I wouldn't risk it
@Scratte I've made like 800 on edits
 
5:17 AM
np
 
@10Rep Thank you :) I will not flag then, but might DV and del-V
 
But it is shared: What triggers my title rejection?. That particular title is exactly 40 characters long, but e.g. . is removed at the end of a title. If the regex matches before the dot is removed, the regex would still fail to reject the title. — user4642212 1 min ago
 
@d4rk4ng31 Thanks for the link. I'm not surprised to see some limited information available.
 
5:44 AM
@Makyen I have edited the question accordingly. Please repoen if you feel its okay now. If not, please tell me what else can I improve :)
 
@d4rk4ng31 You only need to ping me in one location.
 
Oops sorry
Will ping you there itself :)
Thanks
I'll try to still improve it
However, considering that you've read between the lines and understood the question, do you think its a useful feature?
 
@d4rk4ng31 Which part? Run the blocklist democratically, or adding additional entries/updating an entry?
@d4rk4ng31 Honestly, you haven't explained the democratic idea sufficiently for me to have a reasonable opinion, other than a strong wonder about how that could work. For the other: adding additional entries to the blocklist and/or updating the current ones is a reasonable thing to do, if it gets us better question titles and doesn't prevent titles which we want to be able to have. However, again, your proposal, so far, isn't clear enough for me to know exactly what you're wanting to block
 
6:03 AM
What I want to block is unclear titles... that's all
Which do not even show the basic problem
those kinds
 
but how do you define "unclear title" to a computer?
 
Using a list
 
What to do with something like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63949902/sum-values-of-object-in-a-array
Long story short: OP's expected result is incorrect while the code in the question gives the correct result. 3 answers proceed to provide code that arrives at the incorrect "expected" result. OP realizes his mistake and admits this in the comments and a question edit. All 3 wrong answers upvoted at least once, so they're not likely to be removed.
 
@d4rk4ng31 The blocklist entries are regular expressions. That's very unlikely to change. Even if it would be changed, how do you propose to have a list of titles to block? Are you going to list every possible bad title (and yes, a list can be implemented as a regex, but that not a very efficient way of doing so)?
 
@Makyen Lemme think. Please give me some time :)
 
6:11 AM
@d4rk4ng31 You've got all the time you want to take. The main time limitation is the existence of your Meta question, and the potential effects of responses/reactions you might get to it while you're thinking.
 
Yeah! But I actually am paralelly attending my college... online
:P
 
@ArghyaSadhu It is, but there is a chance the question will be deleted after closure
 
Yeah roomba in 10 days
spam
 
@ArghyaSadhu I was thinking quickly :)
 
@Vega I can delete vote it
 
7:20 AM
^^ Can't edit anymore to correct formatting :(
 
7:45 AM
@10Rep Heh.. I did about 20 when I realized that reputation points are easily gained, but bad profile statistics are never reversed/corrected.
I'm not a php expert, but this looks like a typo to me. Did I miss anything?
 
@Scratte I do not dare to set foot in this territory. It's the path to madness.
 
@Turing85 Luckily we already have mad people here :)
 
@Scratte And I am one of them x)
 
I often get my flags disputed in triage, which is unfortunate, since that prevents the post from entering the close vote queue. If it is a typo then I think it's better to close it and let it Roomba.
@Turing85 Not sure yet ;) Do you want to be? :D
But.. you seem to have a lot of feathers, why do you need a suit and a scarf? :)
 
@Scratte Let me discuss this with the white rabbit and Alice over a cup of tea...
 
Thank you to the kind person who edited and corrected my request above!
 
@AmitJoshi the question can now be deleted. Answer is back to 0...
 
Can I assume it is a malformed url in the question? stackoverflow.com/q/31451424/2943403
 
@mickmackusa maybe, but not the url in that question. Some url in what they fetch I guess.
could be a 404 for an image? Not sure what loadHtml is capable of.
 
8:34 AM
I don't think I follow you. ref=sv_pc_1 is not valid, right?
 
why not?
let me check the url spec
 
I'm expecting a querystring, but the querystring never starts... no "?"
 
Rob
They very likely tested with loadHtmlFile but posted different code in the question if this is anything to go by
 
yeah normally but if you have backend server you could implement what ever.. more strange to me is that amazon runs under http not https, ooh ops it's an old question... :)
 
@Nick Answer is (self) accepted; will this roomba?
 
Rob
8:37 AM
But the URL itself seems fine, if not a bit... unique
 
@mickmackusa unsafe in the scheme specific part are these characters "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~", "[", "]", and "`". tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1738 so technically the url is valid. If that url points to a valid resource is up to the server. Not something we can validate by only looking at the url.
It is a good guess ...
 
Okay, I guess I cannot confidently close it as a typo then.
 
due to the downvotes it will roomba tomorrow, no need to close it
 
@AmitJoshi No, Roomba doesn't touch questions with accepted answers no matter the score. Needs delete votes.
 
Is there a site on the network where one can ask about how to use photoshop? I don't expect it to be OK on superuser.
 
8:44 AM
@JeanneDark So, are you suggesting to drop del-pls for question here? or I should do it 2 days after when 10K+ will be able to caste the del vode?
 
Rob
@Scratte Graphic design, maybe?
 
@AmitJoshi I'm not sure if that gets an exemption or not. Perhaps one of our tame mods can answer...
 
@Rob I think I was wrong. How to use photoshop if one is specific enough seems to be on topic there. I did not expect that :O
 
Never mind I see @JeanneDark already did. Anyway, it can be deleted by now...
 
@Scratte It would depend on what you're doing. Graphic Design and Photography are probably both reasonable possibilities, depending on what you're working on. If you are programming for Photoshop, it could be on topic on SO.
 
8:49 AM
@mickmackusa file_get_contents resolve redirects? Because that page respond with a 301.
 
@Makyen It's not about programming. It's this Question. I'm not even sure that I'm inclined to answer the question in the comment, due to it's phrasing, but it got me curious.
 
@Scratte That question, assuming it were edited to be clear what they actually mean, would be on-topic on Super User.
 
@AmitJoshi A del request here would be necessary. Here's a link to the rules in the FAQ. With a score of -3, a del request should be allowed.
 
@mickmackusa if this example is correct file_get_contents doesn't handle redirects.
 
@RyanM Yes, that's what slowly dawned on me when I read their help section. It's seems to fit better on Super User than on Graphic Design, though I'm not sure it would be off-topic on Graphic Design.
 
9:19 AM
I'm trying to learn the art of being helpful and unhelpful at the same time :)
 
@RyanM is an answer that is an attributed copy of another answer still worthy of a plagiarism flag?
 
@Nick I custom flagged it as being an exact (...okay, they changed a float irrelevantly) copy of another answer, not specifically as plagiarism though, since it's cited.
 
This is one of those many moments that I wish downvotes were worth -10 so that the two downvotes on the answer would make OPs net rep change negative...
@RyanM cool I won't bother flagging it too.
 
It's still a violation of the referencing rules: Do not copy the complete text of external sources; instead, use their words and ideas to support your own.
Bonus points: it's not even the right language. The question asked for Kotlin, and the copy-pasted answer is Java...
The OP accepted it because the link contained a Kotlin solution.
@Nick well it won't affect their reputation either way once it's deleted, but it will contribute toward a negative answer record...
 
9:49 AM
^^ Looks spam
 
10:07 AM
What to do when a Question has mutated in the comment thread and an Answer that is unrelated to the actual question in the Question is provided and has been accepted?
 
@Scratte If the question is valid, only 20k delete votes can help (can those even delete accepted answer?) otherwise, close & delete the question. In case the accepted answer is related to a previous revision, roll back the question to that state (and make any necessary edits), and leave a comment for the OP to ask a new question with the follow up/changed question.
 
@Adriaan There's only one revision of the Question, which is a duplicate. During the resolution of that in the comments, a new error came to life. Only that new error has been addressed by the accepted Answer.
 
@Scratte then the question should be edited to reflect the comment discussion
 
@Adriaan There's a slight snag though. There's another Answer, that addresses the Question as it's written.
 
@Scratte then, as mentioned, 20k deletion or a custom flag on the accepted answer should be the course of action, and pointing the OP to ask a new question as per the comments where the accepted answer can go to
 
10:18 AM
@Adriaan Ok. Can 20K delete positively scored Answers?
 
@Scratte no idea :P
 
Heh.. well, I've put a close flag for a duplicate on the Question for now. Lets see how that turns out :) The answerer may yet fix their Answer.
 
10:53 AM
@Scratte No, I can not.
 
@rene Thanks :) I guess it's to ensure what deleting is a community consensus and not just the whim of a few, or something.
 
11:12 AM
@Makyen I have cleared up most of the doubts, though suggestions are still welcome :)
 
12:03 PM
 
Morning
 
o/
 
12:28 PM
Has the CV-pls US checkmark in the close dialogue broken? I feel that ever since the revision of close vote reasons I've had to manually type the reason due to the lacking checkbox
 
@Adriaan I beleive so. IIRC, we were/are waiting for the CSS changes to stop so it can be reimplemented.
 
@Adriaan You mean the Auto-Review custom close?
 
@Machavity no, the regular close; go to a question, click "close" and in that dialogue there used to be a checkbox on the lower right
 
@Adriaan I am using that checkbox so no, it is not broken. Which version do you use?
 
12:36 PM
I submitted a patch for that one, but I suspect the project might be dead
 
@Dharman 1.6.11
 
@Adriaan I use 1.9.2.0
 
@Dharman I just noticed the pinned message by Makyen, I updated as well now
 
Is this php Question a typo or some typical misunderstand?
 
@Scratte Yes. A string is not an instance of a class.
 
12:44 PM
@Scratte Yes. Can't wrap things in single quotes and expect PHP to execute them
 
Thank you both. I see the handling was.. expedited by the ûber php expert :)
 
1:11 PM
It looks like they fixed a login for SEDE and I missed the announcement. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/353406/… Does it keep you logged in or like the previous login does it kick you out after some time too?
 
 
1 hour later…
@Dharman we'll find out. Just logged in again
 
1 message moved from SOCVR Request Graveyard
 
Wow. After almost 2 weeks of not answering any questions, I was able to write an answer yesterday, and one today....
 
@Turing85 So.. you're starting over now? :)
 
@Scratte Maybe I just want to reach 12345 reputation (since it's such a nice number) ^^
 
@Turing85 it really is
 
It is :) I remember I wanted to stay at 1010 :D
If I ever get to 101010, I'm going fight it make it stay there forever.
2
 
@Scratte Well... 1945 is a very... loaded? number x)
 
3:18 PM
@Turing85 It is.. A lot of people were very happy that year. After May that is :)
 
@Scratte Weren't you closer to 2000 a few days ago?
 
@DavidBuck Yes, I was. I went and found a lot of bad Answers.
Oh.. and I had one "User removed"
 
3:35 PM
As nice rep count I had at some point 9229 rep with badges 11 22 44. Then I got 9999 rep, 11011, 11111 , then 14441. I got all prime numbers rep/badges: 15919 - 13 47 67 :)
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@Scratte But with only 101010 reputation, you still can't comment everywhere: you need 1000 more.
 
@Vega I admire and hate you at the same time :P
 
@Vega And they say OCD isn't good for you. I like it :)
 
Thank you :)
 
Is this question only unclear to me?
 
3:42 PM
@JeanneDark nope.
 
@Vega I'm glad it's not just me that notices this sort of thing. I'm currently on 12/22/30 badges and was contemplating awarding a couple of bounties just to get 2 more bronze badges.
 
@JeanneDark Clear as dark mud.
 
@JeanneDark To me it sounds like it may be a child.
 
What is the difference in clarity between various shades of mud?
 
Thanks for your feedback!
 
3:44 PM
@AndrasDeak Light mud is (obviously) clearer than dark mud. Why would expect anything else?
 
@DavidBuck It's not just you. I was at 4 9 19. Then I was going for 5 10 20, but I spoiled it by voting my max one day while also getting the Reviewers badge, so it got to 4 11 20 :(
 
I need 9 more bronze badges to get a good "pack of cards" - current on 13/26/43.
 
Would someone else care to reject the pending edit on @JeanneDark's recent matrix/arduino question.
@AdrianMole I wondered if you were going to stop on 6000 FP reviews the other day.
 
@DavidBuck @JeanneDark hasn't asked any questions.
 
done
 
3:47 PM
Ohh dear! I think @Turing85 just turned that user away from math and logic forever :D
 
@Scratte What? Why?
 
@AdrianMole She had just asked about one, though...
 
... got that, eventually.
 
@Turing85 I think that is way too advanced, to be honest :) I used to study math and that first article almost broke my brain :)
 
@DavidBuck Why should the edit be rejected? Is it because the question needs details/clarity?
 
3:49 PM
Turd polishing? Not on our watch.
 
@AdrianMole 13 gold badges, nice
 
@cigien Because an edit by anyone other than the close voters will immediately cause the question to enter the reopen queue
 
@DavidBuck I am glad, you too! :) I didn't think to notice oddities before Nathan Oliver once noticed his incredible reps ;) then I took screenshots of mine (that's how I remember) when it was 'funny', but never seek to make it on purpose
 
@DavidBuck Aah, I see. Makes sense, thanks.
 
@Scratte Hm? Had it in my 6th semester in details (with proof and everything). The important part is not the proof, but the statement. And the statement is: "there is a mapping from syntax to semantics".
 
3:52 PM
@cigien That's why any outstanding edits that don't fundamentally improve the question should be rejected when closing. Only the first edit after closing causes the question to enter the reopen queue, so ideally that should only happen if the OP has had a chance to improve the question themselves.
 
@Scratte It's one of those statements that is true by intuition, but inherently hard to proof, and the proof, in my opinion, does not hold a lot of value wrt. understanding.
 
@Turing85 Imagine the user being a child that has just learned about matrices and is trying to find out if their non-two-dimensional array is a matrix.. and then give them something you has in your 6th semester at university? :D
 
@DavidBuck Right, makes a lot of sense. I'll keep that in mind when closing.
 
@cigien If you want to close and edit, just close first! As a close-voter, your edit won't push the post into the reopen queue. (But, on that case discussed just now, I don't think rejecting the edit was the correct choice: it was not a bad edit.)
 
One could have asked the edit to be approved first and then closed the post, no?
 
3:57 PM
@Scratte That would have been nicer, IMHO.
 
Now.. someone else may do the same edit not knowing it will go into the reopen queue.
 
Exactly ... unless, of course, I make the edit...
 
@AdrianMole That was my confusion. I don't like rejecting edits since that could disqualify the user from suggesting edits (which doesn't seem fair to the editor). Is there a way to approve the edit, and not make it enter the reopen queue?
 
@cigien if the editor keeps editing unanswerable questions their edits should be rejected
nothing unfair about that
 
@cigien If you are a close-voter, then maybe: You could just do a trivial "Improve Edit" to formally approve the suggestion. Don't know if that would push into reopen, though. Corner-case?
 
4:00 PM
side note: only edits by OP push questions in the reopen queue, I think
 
I like the rejection reason by @DavidBuck saying "Please don't edit closed questions. It causes them to enter the reopen queue."
 
No!
 
thanks
 
@DavidBuck As Shog said, that is kind of a red herring, as rules changed meta.stackexchange.com/a/196078/213575
 
4:02 PM
@AndrasDeak No.. the editor has be to either a close voter or a close flagger for the post to not go into the reopen queue. Anyone else editing it, will make it go in. And.. it's not just 5 days. I'm pretty sure that was changed to 70 days.
 
Also, note that you can always vote to reopen the question later on.
 
@Scratte ah, right. All configurations are confusing.
It should really just be OP. There have to be almost no cases where third parties can turn a question into something answerable.
 
@AdrianMole Rejecting the edit was the right choice for me, as the question was already closed, and edit wasn't substantial
 
Unless it's a domain expert who can dig down into the confusion and ask a new question on OP's behalf, in which case they can vote to reopen
 
I prefer that any edit push the question to review, not only the first.
 
4:05 PM
Because it's always nice to have the reopen-queue completely clogged?
 
Too much pointless work for reviewers.
 
@AndrasDeak I'm confused. I thought we had a room topic scheduled for that "issue" but obviously it was only meant to annoy the heck out of me and then move on .... noted.
 
everyone and their grandmother likes to make pointless edits
 
The reviewers of the reopen queue usually are the most slackers.
 
@rene I knew it would be your fault
 
4:06 PM
thanks, yes.
:D
 
@Braiam The most robotic, yes! I have seen some very dodgy reviews by others, on those occasions when I check how others have voted.
 
Getting 1k reviews in the reopen queue is a drag, usually empty.
And it's a perfect queue to find pointless closed questions to delete :D
 
@AdrianMole You should have.. now the edit was made and I'm sure they do not understand what is happening to their post.
 
@Braiam I think there has been a current "hit" on the Reopen Queue because of a certain individual's recent spate of mass Close Vote queue hits. Many of those will have been edited (by OP or others) and quickly entered the Reopen queue (I've seen numerous examples).
@Braiam Yeah - I've cast quite a few delete votes from things that I came across in the Reopen Queue. The irony isn't lost on me.
 
@AdrianMole I don't understand, why is there a problem?
 
4:13 PM
@Braiam Not really a problem - just a possible reason why the Reopen Queue is so big at the moment.
 
It's a problem because it conditions reviewers to leave everything closed.
 
@AdrianMole I bet a script ran and we are seeing a huge deluge of questions. I can't blame Shog for obvious reasons.
 
Not usually my job, but I did the 40 reopen queue reviews for today.
(now read this in the Heavy's voice)
 
I think your username doesn't reflect your mission today :)
 
Right, it's a bit too late for that. But FWIW, the efforts ended up being mostly towards keeping them closed.
 
4:53 PM
@JohnDvorak ? :)
 
I said what I said. The newest mobile Firefox is so fast it can't be bothered to run userscripts, so I have to do this manually. I do guess though the URL is why SD refused to reply to me here.
Anyone have an alternative Firefox that can both send tabs to the real one and back and can handle userscripts?
 
@JohnDvorak That's android right? On iOS we don't have that option.
 
5:13 PM
Android, yes
 
@JohnDvorak sd didn't reply here because we don't do Super User here.
 
5:28 PM
@JohnDvorak Use an older version of FF?
 
I'm considering it. I was hoping they'd get TM working soon.
 
@JohnDvorak they did a Stack Overflow to it
@JohnDvorak no chance
Mozilla has pivoted to "interesting new products" arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/…
> "In order to refocus the Firefox organization on core browser growth through differentiated user experiences, we are reducing investment in some areas such as developer tools, internal tooling, and platform feature development, and transitioning adjacent security/privacy products to our New Products and Operations team," Baker wrote.
Ring a bell?
 
Gagh
 
yeah. Money isn't cheap.
 
Depends.. some money is very cheap. I still have some Lire left :)
 
5:37 PM
Bitcoins are bloody expensive
 
@Makyen oh, you also can't do that
at least not without getting an older apk or whatever from a guy in a trench coat
 
want some of them old APKs?
 
@AndrasDeak That's one of the reasons to have backups. :;
 
@AndrasDeak I have a trench coat, but not old apk's
 
Is this question primarily opinion based since it is asking about best practices?
 
@code11 Can you edit it to not ask about "best practices"?
 
@code11 Considering a moderator (with a python gold badge) has commented on it and left it open, I'd say it's likely OK.
 
@Braiam Is that the determination criteria? I'm not sure that would be possible. Its primary question is about whether the method described is a good idea, rather than a concrete problem or obstacle with code.
 
@code11 Theoretically, if you can fix a question so it's no longer closable, you should do so. It's less costly on the system than the close > edit > reopen cycle.
 
6:09 PM
@Scratte I wonder if thats because it's truly on topic or because its well written and possibly interesting. I mean, I'd be interested if there was a better answer on it than the current wiki one.
 
I think this is where there's a clash. Is it likely to attract a lot of discussion and opinion? Which is the basic premise for primarily opinion based. Or does is just leave a little wiggle-room for someone to answer and also leave their opinion. The last one is done by a lot of answerers even if the Question isn't using the "forbidden words".
@code11 If you leave it, you'll find out, no?.. If you close it, it's shut down and no one will ever know if it becomes the next hit Questions with pearls in the Answers.
 
Agreed. I think I'll review some meta guidance for this kind of situation, leave it and see what happens. I still recall that typically best practices is usually off topic but I certainly don't want to prevent good answers, especially if its already been looked over by a gold badge.
 
Not just any gold badge :) Someone who could just shut it down with a single click :)
 
6:28 PM
@code11 I think you are remember this. It's not off topic per se, asking how to do thing correctly is an acceptable question. But it isn't a replacement for proper project planning.
 
@Braiam Thanks for the clarification.
 
6:45 PM
Is this NAA?
 
@Scratte Sure, why not?
 
@Scratte I'd say so ... that's a comment, at best
 
@Scratte Thats a pretty clear one I think. No summation of the link provided.
 
@Dharman I guess it would be a sort of snarky answer without the link.
 
@AdrianMole Here, I found one answer that can and should be deleted stackoverflow.com/a/28824061/1839439
 
7:08 PM
I do not like how they changed inline code that is also a link to not be blue text
especially since I already hide the underline, so now they're totally invisible as links
 
@SurajRao completely different question
 
@SurajRao Not necessarily vandalism but it needs to be rolled back because it invalidates the accepted answer of all things
 
answer doesn't apply but then again I don't see how it applied originally, as the answer is not python code
lol, OP has a pending vandalism edit suggestion on the accepted answer
not anymore
 
@Turing85 I can remove my comment, if you like. Then you don't have to mention me.
 
@TylerH wouldnt it technically be vandalism? I dont see a genuine reason for doing that..
 
7:14 PM
@SurajRao OP may genuinely want to ask a different question, but not be able to. It is not "legitimate" in the sense that it is OK (OP might be banned from asking questions, for example), but it is "legitimate" in the sense that it is not defacing the question
 
what he said
 
I can see asking a new question if this was unanswered...
 
It is sorta kinda arguable as vandalism in the sense you are 'destroying' the old question, but there's simply a better way to describe it that better captures what's happening, IMO
 
Vandalism usually implies bad faith. OP could be grossly confused.
 
Don't we have a "reject because author meaning" or something?
 
7:15 PM
@Braiam "conflict's with author's intent"
 
Anyways, it would not be an edit that improves the post.
 
But the suggested edit on the answer was vandalism. And you can't be in conflict with your own question.
 
If someone doesn't find the exact reason, use the "cause harm" and write a crafted one.
 
It is sort of like calling a square a rectangle. Sure, it is a rectangle. But calling it a square gives you the most information about what it is. That's not a great example for this, but it's the best I can think of
 
Can this answer be salvaged (keeping just the "may be you can try removing it"?)
 
7:20 PM
@Scratte credit where credit is due. =)
@Scratte "May be you can try..." sounds like "should be a comment". It's not an answer imho.
 
it's just a friendlier version of "try this"
 
@Turing85 Ahh.. but it is "Stack Overflow technically" not an answer though? :)
 
Heh.. there's a cherished moderator about deleting everything in the NAA queue. I don't even have time to vote on the posts before they're gone :D
 
8:53 PM
@Turing85 I think you misunderstood his request. He's not asking about curl, he's trying to figure out why curl "does the right thing" while his Spring Boot app doesn't. That said, it definitely needs more detail/debug info...
 
@Scratte what @Turing85 said ... anything with a "maybe" sounds like a NAN/comment. =}
Can one flag a post as a dupe if the same question was asked but only had an "answer" in the comments?
 
@tink only if it's the same asker
 
> This question does not have an upvoted or accepted answer
mods can probably close it as a dupe
 
9:03 PM
Right ... thanks @AndrasDeak - so I'd flag it and make "Dupe" the reason?
 
@tink The title is pretty much unambiguous. "How does cURL...". For me, this has nothing to do with programming, but is a tooling question, thus my vote to close&migrate.
 
@tink I don't think you can close flag as a duplicate. And if you mean custom mod flag: probably not worth bothering the mods with.
 
@AndrasDeak I don't think mods can circumvent the rule for dupe closure that require an upvoted or accepted answer (or multiple answers... isn't that one of the acceptable conditions?)
 
Meh =}
 
@TylerH that would be unfortunate, as this sounds exactly the kind of exception that they should be able to handle
(i.e. blatant, exact dupe where neither has answers)
 
9:08 PM
@AndrasDeak Eh, the solution is easy: just mod-delete the question
 
I'm reluctant to post an "answer", even though I'm certain that my command in the comment in the recent question would make that ONE error go away ... of course I can't know what else is missing, so the question may remain open with a different library ...
 
@tink if it answers that question, answer it. If it might not answer that question, flag as unclear.
 
A generic: Install the missing linrary/libraries?
 
that's a bit meh for me usually, but your mileage may vary
 
Heh
Well ... he didn't research what that error at the top of his output means, or how to remedy it. Instead he asks how to install that package correctly.
I don't know. I'll just ignore it =/
 
9:13 PM
@AndrasDeak such a bummer. reducing investment in platform feature development = we might become the new IE or Safari :-(
 
@TylerH well I had to look for a new mobile browser already, so it might not be my problem soon
 
@AndrasDeak on an iPhone?
 
lol
 
:-P
 
(no :P)
 
9:34 PM
when does the new semester start in the US? For Germany/Europe, I know it starts Mid-October (maybe November due to Covid)
 
@Turing85 "Europe" is a bit broad category there. We're in the second week here.
due to "eternal September" I suspect US is similar
 
@AndrasDeak huh... funny. I thought europe would be (mostly) synchronized due to Bologna... oh well.
@AndrasDeak The eternal September is not (directly) related to students, but to AOL offering their users USENET access
 
@Turing85 In the US, schools start anywhere from mid/late August to mid October. It depends on the school, the school system, etc. Some are in session now, having been in session for a month. Some don't start for another month.
 
Does this qualify as R/A or just plain-old NAA? (I'm drifting towards R/A.)
 
@AdrianMole For me it is enough to nuke it with R/A
 
9:45 PM
@NathanOliver Your thorough analysis of the situation has convinced me!
 
@NathanOliver Maybe I have a misconception of "abusive" or there is a secret message I am not seeing, but it strikes me as a simple NAA
 
@Turing85 It's abuse of the site and, in a way, of the OP's question.
 
@Turing85 Posting gibberish, which that could be considered by a 1 rep unregistered user is okay to be red flagged. It allows us to get rid of the content faster.
 
@AdrianMole Ok, I had a misconception of the scope of abusive =)
 
I like Undo's take
> We are a professional site. Imagine you're at a conference. You walk into a group of professionals discussing something and yell "ASGFASFABFSSFS" at the top of your lungs.
@Turing85 I see
 
M--
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio is there an immediate need to delete this or can we let roomba to take it away: stackoverflow.com/questions/63923268/… in reference to this del-pls:chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=50474516
 
@M-- It looks like it can be deleted by 20k. It probably should be deleted if someone can spare some delete votes
 
M--
@Dharman no need for 20k, I can vote too, but should I spare one?
 
It's up to you. You don't have to vote, the question will roomba in 8 days, but it would be nice to speed it up
 
10:13 PM
@tink But.. will a flag get declined? Which is what I'm really asking :)
 
@Machavity Are you very busy or can I ask you for a small PHP question clean up? With your supper dupe hammer you could help me untangle this mess: stackoverflow.com/…
 
@Scratte That's not quite correct. In order for an edit to not push a question into the reopen queue, the user who made the edit needs to have voted to close the question, or have flagged the question with a flag other than a custom mod-flag (i.e. any of: close-flag, VLQ, spam, or R/A), or the edit needs to not be changing the body of the question. cc @AndrasDeak
 
If the edit is not a substantial one it also doesn't push into reopen queue
 
10:33 PM
@Dharman As far as I know, that's inaccurate: there is no test for the edit being substantial, beyond that the edit must be to the body, and not only to the title or tags. There is a test for body edits being "substantial" wrt. the OP getting a notification about the edit, but not for pushing the question into the reopen queue, as far as I've seen.
 
@Makyen too much effort to keep track of :)
 
@Makyen Ahh.. OK. The forgot about the other flags :)
 
@Makyen I was pretty sure I read that on Meta, but maybe I was thinking of something else.
 
what is the 3rd person singular of "to access"? Is is really "accesses"?
 
@Turing85 Yes.
 
10:49 PM
@Makyen sometimes, english is strange. But I guess I should not judge since my native language has words like "Rinderkennzeichnungsfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz"...
 
could you at least put apostrophes in that, if you so despise spaces?
 
@JohnDvorak NEVER! 😛 Why do you think nobody wants to play scrabble with us? ^^
 
tbf though, that word doesn't fit on the board
 
@Turing85 That's ... über
 
11:02 PM
Question: when flagging a question as duplicate, how much knowledge transfer is reasonable to expect?
Example: I flagged this question as a duplicate of the canonical "Is java pass-by-reference or pass-by-value" question. The rationale is: if one understands that java is pass-by-reference, one would see the problem in the duplicate. But the knowledge transfer is not... trivial.
 
11:39 PM
@Turing85 They're never going to understand that, unless it's spelled out like it was in the comment.
 

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