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1:34 AM
@M-- @Makyen would you bin this, there are way worse questions out there
@M-- and this one, OP edited
They should be easy to spot... the first two requests of mine with no CV on them
 
I kinda don't feel like doing my homework for my data science class. Anyone want to do the whole thing for me?
 
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@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica $$$ gimme money :D
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica you should be asking that on the main site, not in here! :-)
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
 
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4:14 AM
@Scratte I got to this later than I expected but here it is: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/401042/… (barely can keep my eyes open, pardon my typos if any) cc: @SamuelLiew
 
4:24 AM
@M-- Just some feedback from a bystander. Too much detail on the unimportant bits about close reasons, etc. Just stick to the facts that you had a custom flag that you wanted seen with human eyes, that wasn't.
 
@M-- I agree with @DanielWiddis, there's too much there. You're too focused on the specific flag. I've added a TL/DR, adjusted the title, etc. However, the main portion of the question could use some significant editing.
 
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@Makyen @DanielWiddis you're most probably right, will take a look tomorrow morning when I'm fully functional
 
 
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5:39 AM
Is this WASM question on-topic?
 
Should we remove the spammy link from here? stackoverflow.com/a/63805387/754119
 
@AlonEitan Isn't the code part a copy-pasta from an other answer?
 
 
6:20 AM
I should probably go to bed when it takes me over a minute to decide that an obvious suggested edit audit is an audit.
 
6:39 AM
@Vega It looks similar, all the answers and question look similar, but that one doesn't look like copy & paste to me.
 
@Makyen Yes, I went back to check, it looked similar, indeed. I talked to quick :/
 
6:54 AM
@DanielWiddis that depends. If you just woke up then maybe coffee is a better option...
 
@rene it's almost midnight here. I haven't done all-nighters for a few decades. :)
 
You're free to go to bed now. The fresh crew is here ;)
 
But duty calls.
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However, now that it actually is midnight, I'll leave it to y'all :)
 
7:51 AM
This count as spam or just NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/63806345/7508700
 
8:27 AM
Can we vote to delete such questions immediately?
 
@Ilyes no need to. They will disappear on their own.
 
@Ilyes You can vote to delete immediately on closed questions with a score <-3 if you have >20k rep; otherwise you can vote to delete questions closed for >3 days if you have >10k rep (question score doesn't matter for the ability to vote here, it just increases the number of required votes for positive score on a question). Otherwise, as John said, there's, usually, no need to delete vote closed questions with negative score and no answers, since the roomba will delete them automatically.
Only in cases which aren't covered by red flags, but shouldn't remain visible on the site for long do we speed-up deletion through voting.
 
Yeah, I know about the roomba @Adriaan, but I didn't know about the first case. Many thanks for the detailed reply
 
Thanks @JohnDvorak ;)
 
9:18 AM
@eyllanesc snap!
 
What are the options to get this re-opened and re-closed as a duplicate?
 
@Scratte What difference does it make if it ends up closed anyway?
 
@Nick The banner will say it's a duplicate. At present is says it's not focused. It's not even asking for any command, it's asking for a specific command. I do not think it can be anymore focused.
 
@Scratte but I think it will just get roomba'd anyway...
and if it doesn't, it should probably be deleted as being too focused to be useful as a dupe pointer
 
But this seem to indicate that "Closed is closed" and it doesn't matter why and the message to the user doesn't matter. It could have been "You didn't eat your broccoli, so we closed your post"
 
9:27 AM
@Nick currently not, there is an upvoted accepted answer and the score is not negative
 
@Nick I do not believe that it is. One can change the command, if one wants too. And there's an Answer there that is not present in my proposed duplicate target. I noticed it and fiddled with it yesterday and learned something new.
 
@tripleee you're right, I didn't notice the accepted answer.
@Scratte then really that answer should be migrated to the duplicate. I think a mod flag could get that done?
gotta go. not ignoring you all... :-)
 
@Nick I do not like that solution
I get the feeling that looking for duplicate targets is useless.
Even the non-accepted Answer is not present on the target.
 
Uhm, you can't rectract a VLQ flag after you edited?
 
9:52 AM
@Adriaan The malayam sentence is copied from the other answer (for the example) and I think they wanted to show how to import the fonts by an other way than in that answer
 
@Vega yea; initially the markdown was garbled due to HTML rendering as HTML. And given Google Translate didn't even attempt a translation (it did detect it was malayam, just didn't translate), I presumed VLQ. Then checked the source and added in the snippet
 
@Adriaan the VLQ was marked helpful after you edited it?
 
@Adriaan I was surprised how "lost" the translator was :)
 
@ArghyaSadhu it was; presumably I edited my own flag to validity. Oops.
 
10:32 AM
@Adriaan yeah, nothing to be learned.
 
 
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12:04 PM
Morning
 
1:03 PM
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Q: Merge tags: [cypher] and [cypher-query]

adnanmuttalebI think these two tags cypher and cypher-query refer to the same thing: [cypher] description: Cypher is a graph query language for Neo4j and AgensGraph... [cypher-query] description: Cypher is Neo4j’s graph query language that allows users to store and retrieve data from the graph database Al...

 
@TylerH @bad_coder Binning for the reason that we can't delete-vote unclosed posts.
 
@TylerH was my first del-pls request, as an experiment. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
This isn't really the place for experiments, at least not in the form of *-pls messages which this room exists to handle seriously. In lieu of experimentation I recommend you read the SOCVR FAQ which should answer all your questions. If you have any further ones, you can simply ask them instead of experimenting :-)
@Steve Eternally confused why a diamond moderator commented on that asking for clarification instead of just nuking that whole thread from orbit...
 
@TylerH I read it today about a couple of issues but missed that one.
@TylerH I have this question: Imagine I answer 2 Q's, one being a duplicate of the other. Can I cv-pls for one of them? (Or is that considered "being involved"?)
 
@bad_coder From FAQ #15, subpoint 3: Being the author of a proposed duplicate-target question or an answer on the duplicate-target does not, by itself, make you "involved" in a question which you are requesting be closed as a duplicate (i.e. you can request duplicate-closure with a question you asked or answered as the duplicate-target, if that's your only involvement).
More or less scrutiny may be applied to the request depending on the requestor's relevant tag score, though.
 
"duplicate-target" refers to the question being closed as duplicate, or the question the duplicate will reference to?
 
@bad_coder the question the duplicate will reference
though if you answer both questions then no, you cannot request closure
By answering you are indicating that you think it is not a duplicate
 
@rene ok! I'm enlightened, Thanks guys.
 
correct
If you ever wanted to use definition lists in your posts, they finally have distinct CSS styling for the <dt> and <dd> elements
So it makes sense to start using them more ....
 
@rene Ok next definition I'll write will be according to that format. (I'll try it in sandbox first.)
 
1:24 PM
@bad_coder yeah, I think I tried it 6 to 8 years ago and when that came out like poo I never used that again. It didn't make sense and wasn't worth the effort. There is no markdowndown support I think , so you have to do the dl, dt and dd by handcoding ....
 
@rene you mean you don't hand code everything all the time...?
 
@TylerH no, text just appears when I think about it
 
@rene LOL, so you want to try it out and report back my findings? :D OK I'll do that, I'm not promising "when" but I'll try it.
@rene your thought changes the bits on HD and MEM through psychokinetic electromagnetism :D
@DalijaPrasnikar Everyone was talking about Croatia this weekend.
 
1:59 PM
@JeanneDark Pick you poison?
 
I flagged as "needs more focus"
The old ones were better. There was a clear distinction between "too broad" and "unclear" (no question asked), but now there's huge overlap. Because oftentimes a question needs more focus if it also lacks details.
 
@rene I'm pleased to see you're upsizing your flower
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@Machavity I'm in a depression now ...
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2:24 PM
@rene This conversation is off-tropic.
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@AdrianMole that's nearly pin-worthy; bravo
 
I'll settle for a few serial upvotes. ;)
 
2:53 PM
@Vega I went with needs detail (unclear), personally, though yes at this point in time both are equally applicable
 
@AdrianMole I approve of this message
 
3:14 PM
 
I see Sam is becoming our resident Cnut. Another nearly 1k questions closed, bringing the total outstanding to 2k.
 
@DavidBuck From 2k questions in the queue
 
And the day before that it was 2k!
 
Did he anger Zeus?
 
@SamuelLiew didn't you stop at 902 yesterday as well?
 
3:19 PM
New dictionary definition. Sisyphean: See @SamuelLiew
 
3:45 PM
How do you people handle "explain me this code based on x concept" questions? Are they on-topic? Are they too-broad?
 
@Kulfy Do they define which part of the code they are having problem with?
 
@Kulfy too broad will do of it is just a (lengthy) code dump and that question.
 
It isn't that long. I'm talking about Understanding recursion with python specifically.
@Braiam I guess so.
 
@Kulfy Their problem is with math not with the language :)
 
:-P
 
4:46 PM
@tripleee can you check for me if you can still edit this issue/
 
5:22 PM
 
5:41 PM
@rene edit how?
 
@tripleee as in edit the issue with a new line of text?
 
@rene yup
 
okay, thanks for verifying that my fiddling with security settings didn't break much
 
@rene sure (-:
I guess I can take it out again?
 
yes, you may
 
5:43 PM
200 OK
 
418 Need a TEAPOT
 
5:56 PM
@pkamb but why?
 
@pkamb I don't see the benefit in doing that over editing the potential dup-target's title to include "triple less than sign".
 
I prefer to see things closed/duped for the right reasons... and it would close a thread on that meta post.
 
@pkamb In general, we don't open posts just to close them again. While it is now easier to do so, particularly if there's a gold badge holder around to hammer it closed as a duplicate (and duplicate is what you want to close it as). The fact that we generally don't do that is what is covered in the MSE post which mentions that question.
 
6:15 PM
@pkamb The primary purpose of a duplicate is as a signpost. While this might have made a decent signpost, particularly if people didn't answer, it's been deleted for 6 years, which means it's starting from scratch wrt. SEO. As such, it appears the better solution is to add the keywords into the dup-target's title.
I'd also note that there was a conflict of interest from the person asking the question on MSE, as they were the author of the upvoted answer.
 
@pkamb The target already has several post pointing to it and there seems no unique keywords that that question offers.
 
Admittedly, I'm somewhat interested in if regular users can undelete it, as it was deleted by a moderator, who is now no longer a moderator.
 
it seems the answer is "yes"
I won't push for a change of the Close to a Dupe, but if someone has the power to do it...
 
6:48 PM
@Makyen IIRC the answer is no
(but that could have changed since the last event I am recalling)
Looks like it either has changed or I may have been conflating two separate memories
 
7:10 PM
details, details
 
8:05 PM
 
@rene this request can be binned due to bamboozling the duplicate detector by being deleted
 
@RyanM graveyard'ed it
 
errr...right, that is what I meant. thanks!
 
8:44 PM
 
9:11 PM
@bad_coder I am not really a fan...
 
9:30 PM
@DalijaPrasnikar no one's a fan of their national team loosing :) ...
 
Ooh, just had an unexpected +38 serial DV refund. I guess someone managed to amass 19 votes on my account while staying under the radar...
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^wow
 
Serial downvote or just accumulated ones?
 
@halfer amazing performance of them!!
 
I'd think you'd notice 19 downvotes in series.
And "voting corrected" or "user removed"?
Nevermind, I can see it in your profile
I see +28, that's 14 downvotes. Still impressive.
 
9:37 PM
@AndrasDeak Just "voting corrected". I think they were very careful to do it slowly, so I would not notice.
Yeah, there is another +10 on top :=).
 
you also got another random downvote after reversal
5 minutes after reversal...
 
Heh, give them credit for their commitment ;=)
 
You get +38? I only got +4!
 
@Dharman My downvoters are better than your downvoters {grin}
 
Halfer: "My posts brings all the downvotes to the yard..."
 
9:41 PM
@Dharman did you just get a reversal also?
 
Yeah +4
 
I suppose the script just kicked in a few minutes ago...
 
@bad_coder more likely it is the backlog of requests the CM team is working to burn through
 
@TylerH ohh that explains it!!
@halfer if the reversal is manual there was probably more than 1 voter. However many it all got corrected at the same time.
 
Is anyone else having a problem with making edits? I just made 4 edits to the same question. I only wanted to make one. It looks like the UI lets me submit the changes multiple times
 
10:01 PM
@Dharman could be related to an issue with search that was just fixed? (though not likely)
it looks like they just moved to GUID blobs in their edit/source links in the post revision history
they didn't use GUIDs previously I don't think
 
I don't know how it happened. It happened yesterday and today
 
10:23 PM
@Dharman happened to me a few days ago several times...I think the system is undergoing some changes, besides the inability to submit edits there have been significant lags.
 
10:44 PM
@Dharman Are you working from a backlog? If you like you could share with me.
 
@bad_coder True, it's a possibility. Maybe they have a new serial detection policy in, and it got me two at the same time...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It's not really a backlog. Few months ago I searched for something and it brought mostly questions that should be deleted. I still haven't closed that tab. stackoverflow.com/…
@πάνταῥεῖ If you are looking for bad PHP questions you can always take a look at my bookmark list. There's plenty of stuff that can be deleted. so.dharman.net/questions/canBeDelBy10K
 
@Dharman :Aj, I see. Well, I am mostly working at I already wondered why these delv request were so targeted at php and sql.
 
Yeah, I wasn't going to post 2000 del-pls requests here at once, but I ask everyone to chip in few votes each day. If you want to help I would highly appreciate.
 
I asked because I remember that someone kept a backlog for general stuff which won't roomba. It's several years ago.
I am doing some requests for fast deletion of the c++ newest tab rarely. Just because I hate to see that crap :P
Most of these would be roombad anyways :D
 
10:56 PM
If it will roomba then there's no point in us wasting time even looking into it.
However, some questions will not be picked by roomba even if they are downvoted.
@RyanM No MCVE or duplicate?
@RyanM Also, shouldn't the new post be closed as a duplicate? It looks like it is the same question but reasked
 
@Dharman Yeah, I know well. That's why backlogs (on GitHub or such) would be good.
 
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