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9:01 AM
@CodyGray np
 
@RyanM Questions pretty much need to be longer than 1 sentence to be on-topic anywhere...
 
@CodyGray That was my suspicion, but maybe an imaging expert might tell me I'm wrong and that's fine
Definitely not on-topic here though, that I was confident of...
 
See if you can find someone who's spent a lot of time looking at lolcat memes.
 
Is this question acceptable or too broad?
 
Voted as general computing hardware and software
 
9:07 AM
It's definitely not programming, so let's start with that.
 
^^ (SD report) at least NAA (want to be contacted if OP finds an answer)
 
Definitely NAA, don't think it's spam.
 
Ughhhhhh just found another voting ring. Has there actually been an uptick?
 
No.
 
So "lots of voting fraud, all the time" is basically business as usual
 
Yes.
Voting fraud has always been a fact of life on Stack Overflow, and moderators have been cleaning it up since the dawn of time. It's a big part of the job.
 
Maybe somebody should tell them it's not allowed :P
 
9:37 AM
Yeah, all this time and nobody ever even though to do that
 
Well, I'm too tired/lazy to write up any evidence for this one, but it's so blatant that it's not necessary...so y'all are getting "Voting fraud: " followed by a bunch of account links.
 
That should be sufficient. We probably don't even need the account links, but I don't want to be blamed for enabling your criminally lazy behavior. :-)
 
@RyanM How do you do that? Find one strange one and start tracking all the users on the thread?
 
Basically, yep.
 
9:45 AM
@JeanneDark I have mixed feelings on questions like that... on the one hand, it's a specific question within the scope of software development... On the other hand, the answer is almost certainly "no, not unless you built that functionality in ahead of time"
Which is, I suppose, an answer. But I'm not an iOS expert, so that's mostly speculation.
 
@RyanM Thanks, I wasn't sure. Even in that case, it would lack own effort
 
Shog9 has a good post...somewhere...on exactly what type of effort should be required for SO questions
It's not this one, though it's related
 
Or some other answer in which he likens the amount of effort required to ploughing fields of wheat in the rural mountains of Colorado?
 
This is what I have in my bookmarks (not sure if it is by Shog9 though): meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/261592/… @CodyGray @RyanM
 
Yeah, that's the MSO FAQ, not by Shog9. A good link, though.
It was kinda contentious for a while. People claimed that some of the top answer's original wording was... I don't know, unwelcoming?
 
Thanks for all these links!
 
upon which I stumbled only because it was erroneously tagged as
 
@desertnaut I looked at that, but I just wasn't sure enough to pull the trigger. It looks like they're asking about implementing it in terms of code, which should be on-topic here.
 
I would be of course more than interested to hear why I may be wrong in my judgement
@CodyGray They are most certainly not
"Is this method then of finding prices with the highest volatility incorrect?"
"Is there a volatility measure to capture the variation ?"
Anyway, being in a grey zone is I guess acceptable
 
Yeah, I have to be a bit more careful because my hammer is more powerful. If it's not immediately obvious to me, I usually won't act.
I totally see what you're saying, though, and am almost convinced, so I wouldn't start second-guessing yourself.
 
10:07 AM
@CodyGray fair point
and my question was not addressed specifically to you, of course; there are lots of capable and experienced people in here
 
The downside of my hammering all the rest is that when I skip one, everyone starts wondering if they're crazy. :-)
 
@CodyGray fair point, too :)
 
Also it makes clearing the backlog incredibly head-scratching
They're all tough calls
 
OK, now that I am certifiably NOT crazy, I can go on with my day...!
 
That's what I call efficiency, @RyanM. Y'all have more time to make tough decisions.
@desertnaut Yup. Your certificate is in the mail. Expect it in 6-8 weeks.
 
10:11 AM
@CodyGray 6-8 weeks?? now, that's what I call INefficiency! :)
 
It's a really slow printer...
 
@CodyGray oh, I see... thanks for this clarification (I was ready to start shooting the mail system)
 
@desertnaut I'm not very fond of that one. It implies that one can always find one's own answer and hence Stack Overflow should not exist.
 
@Scratte which one exactly?
 
@Scratte It doesn't imply that at all. It implies that most questions can be answered with sufficient research and without needing SO, but not all. "After you have reached the end of your rope with the pain of not having the answer, that's when you can go ahead and ask."
 
10:20 AM
yeah, describes exactly the situation with my only 4 questions here
 
@desertnaut The accepted answer. It implies to me that if you cannot solve it yourself, then you're doing it wrong. You didn't search enough or you didn't troubleshoot the right way. And unless you've tried every possible way, you shouldn't ask. That only leaves unanswerable Questions.
 
Or questions that require more specialized expertise than the asker has.
 
..and that if one did ask and someone could answer it, you obviously didn't try everything.
 
A bunch of my answers are "nope, you can't do that, not possible." (with more explanation/citations, obviously)
@Scratte I specifically wrote in the question "I tried all answers on Stack Overflow and none of them worked"! I don't know how much clearer I could be.
 
You have to try everything on Google, @RyanM. Gosh, is this your first time?
 
10:26 AM
@CodyGray I don't see it that way. It says "Read blogs" and "Find books" and "Search. Like mad" and "Troubleshoot".. The last one implies try, try and try again. At one point you will be the expect and only then should you ask your impossible to answer Question.
 
But more seriously, I don't really mind the basic questions...I'll take a basic question over yet another "plz debug my nullpointerexception in this specific situation" question.
 
@Scratte Like Jon did here? I see there that he consulted at least one book (well, it was his own, but I think that still counts?), did some other research, ran some benchmarks, etc.
 
@RyanM lol!. That's just useless :D
 
I don't care if it's the first sentence of the tutorial that you didn't read: there's no reason we can't have that information here, too
 
@RyanM Me too. But they violate this answer.
 
10:28 AM
@desertnaut I can't vote to close and am not the most experienced user in here, but I tend to agree with you. It has code, but it seems to me that it ultimately is not about programming, but the maths behind (no error in the code, no problems coding).
 
@Scratte that's the joke...or maybe the joke is being played on me with all the questions containing that...
 
@CodyGray No.. not enough according to that FAQ index answer.
 
@JeanneDark thanks, appreciate the effort and answer
 
@Scratte Yeah, I am in agreement with you here. My philosophy is in line with Shog's, that the effort should be in clearly defining the problem...as long as it's not a "debug my code to find the bug in my specific code" question. For those, yeah, put in some effort into learning how to debug code.
I don't really care how clearly defined the 5768th NullPointerException question from someone who forgot to initialize their variable and can't be bothered to actually debug and says the canonical isn't a dupe because they don't understand it: there's zero lasting value to these questions.
 
@RyanM Yes. Some of my reputation are from lazy-like-debug Questions. Or perhaps from users that just don't even know how to debug. I don't find them useful for the repository, unless they some with the error code in the title and they're isolated to just one error.
 
10:33 AM
@Scratte I think more than 80% of the answerable questions here are actually RTFM + some experimentation. Heck, I managed to learn (Py)Spark myself (practically from scratch) by actually trying to answer such questions here (and ended-up with a silver badge)...
 
Yeah, some of them are fun challenges!
I quite enjoyed learning Kotlin flow for this one, for instance. Nice, well-defined problem, with a copy-pasteable MCVE :heart_eyes:
 
When I had to ask this question, I had exhausted literally all available means - and it proved that the Pyro people had changed something but... forgot to update their documentation
 
@desertnaut But that just proves my point, doesn't it? If one user can do it not being an expert, then the asker should also be able to.
 
@Scratte I think that should be the situation indeed
I have to go, bye for now...
 
11:10 AM
What the take on this SQL Question? I was thinking maybe it lacks some details about the table and variable.
 
@Scratte I went with a duplicate
 
@Vega I'm not sure that will help them. I think it's their variable or their IDE showing them a truncated date. If it is a date, not a datetime.
 
I came across this question which looks like a Google support question, but the OP writes "... I have sent email to the Google action support for help but they ask me to come here to ask for assistance."
 
11:27 AM
Free outsourcing of customer service.. how can they lose?
 
 
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12:57 PM
Not sure if I should have just flagged ^^ as R/A or mod-flagged but I'm not clickling a link that says "click here to get your solution" and links to anonymousfiles.io to find out what it is.
 
@DavidBuck it'd be good to get some moderator feedback on what to do in terms of flagging. I've downvoted and vtd'd it...
 
@DavidBuck It is a link to an answer, just a text dump of the code, NAA rather than R/A or spam
 
@Nick If that's a legit answer, they've done a fantastic job of making it look as suspicious as possible.
 
@Nick did you actually click the link?
 
@Nick I looked up what anonymousfiles.io was first, it's like justpaste.it, even so opened it in a VM
 
1:02 PM
Smart move. I relate more to "Brave Sir Robin ran away"...
But seriously I think just posting a link to some code almost counts as abusive but at the very least VLQ
 
Nothing about the URL, the wording, etc. said anything other than "Danger" to me.
 
Well yeah, I won't argue that :p
 
1:17 PM
At first, I thought this question is too broad, but could it be on-topic if rephrased to something like: «how to bybass buggy client-side JS implementation of ReCaptcha»?
@RyanM Yes, but a duplicate was closed for «general software».
 
1:54 PM
@Dharman @Machavity If you are around you can nuke that one by dupe-hammering with stackoverflow.com/questions/22662488/…
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Why? Bad question, but «needs more focus»? I don’t do Android programming, but Cocoa has a very specific solution to this exact question, for Swift and Objective-C.
 
@Dharman Already closed
 
Yeah, never mind then :D
 
@Andreas: it's actually a very poor unfocused duplicate of thousands of "how to sort table view" type questions.
but I didn't have the energy to look up the canonical duplicate. Do with it as you will.
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Oh, ok.
 
Heh.. they decided to make it harder to read timelines
 
@Scratte Change it back
 
@Nick I want to.. I can't :(
I don't even want to review anymore.. these entire UI changes where they make everything harder is so demotivating.
 
SD is going wild.
 
2:11 PM
@Scratte Harder? What do you mean?
 
2:22 PM
@Dharman See my message about the new timeline. I don't have time to bring the UI back from continuously worse all the time. I'm done.. no more reviews.
 
2:48 PM
Is this self answer is link only answer (NAA) stackoverflow.com/a/63075771/965146
 
@Shree Yes, it's NAA
 
@Shree Yes, when you remove the links there is nothing left
 
Ahh. Thanks.
 
3:48 PM
@Dharman Curious why "not in English" doesn't apply to the second link too?
 
@DanielWiddis It does, but I can only select one reason. If you want to close with a custom reason be my guest, but either way both of them need clarity.
Non-English posts are primarily unclear and off-topic. Whichever reason you pick will be alright.
@AnnZen FYI we are should not translate questions instead of OP. We need them to do this. I rolled back your edit.
 
 
1 hour later…
 
I shouldn't have looked at - If any Android person wanted to find one of the older posts and add a canonical answer about how to calculate battery levels, current, usage, state, etc., you could close 400 other questions as duplicates.
 
@DavidBuck This one seems to be the defacto canon stackoverflow.com/q/3291655/792066
 
5:33 PM
@JohnDvorak Am I risking being force-choked for closing a sith's post?
 
No.
Unless they know where you live.
(Has there been any female sith in the SW canon or EU?)
 
Depends on the canon, apparently. Darth Shaa is cited as the first.
 
Ah, thanks. What if we go for movies only?
 
@Braiam For sure. There must be a large bunch of questions that could be closed as a dupe of that.
 
On another hand @David, I recommend you not to click on garbage tags unless you bring a shovel :D
 
5:39 PM
Is a question about why a function is called the way it is (official name) on topic?
 
that would likely be unanswerable
 
Well, Adrian beat me to answering it anyway
 
@Braiam Just as well I was already out of close votes - there's a bunch of general computing in there, as well but they are outnumbered by actual Android questions about battery monitoring. Always makes me wonder why there are such generic tags as in the first place.
 
@JeanneDark But you offered a decent improvement.
 
5:57 PM
 
I’m gonna turn to the dark side soon too. No more close votes left. I’m experiencing jealousy and hate, and fear for the site falling apart.
@JohnDvorak No female Siths have been mentioned in the 6 non-animated movies.
 
@Andreas Three, I have. Saving them, I am.
 
@DanielWiddis Take good care of them, you must.
 
6:37 PM
Dang Java upgrade killed my eclipse. Google brings me to 5-year old dupe of the best answer....
Guess I'll close-vote but not cv-pls it.
 
7:14 PM
 
M--
7:59 PM
@Dharman would you take a look at this: stackoverflow.com/questions/63080158/php-like-system
Whaaaat??? Look at this edit: stackoverflow.com/posts/63079527/revisions
 
@M-- I'm amused.
 
M--
A mod replaced goober with fool. What kind of edit is that? That post is typo. Should be closed and deleted altogether. That edit is seriously flawed. I don't think it's ok to change the bad word. That edit basically says: No, you're not a goober. IMHO, you're a fool. :|
 
A mod replaced a peanut with a pastry?
 
@M-- Only a great fool would edit the link that was in front of them. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the link in front of you.
 
8:12 PM
Why is fool better than goober? I mean I'd rather be the latter..
 
@Scratte Apparently goober has connotations with slavery / peanut agriculture
 
ah, cool. One more word to avoid.
 
@DanielWiddis Google says foolish/silly
 
That site has a big privacy disclaimer :)
 
8:21 PM
@M-- Apart from the impolite comments I don't see anything special
Did you have something particular in mind?
@M-- That is no improvement at all. The moderator should have replaced the first sentence altogether
 
@DanielWiddis But.. it's just a peanut. Can one just make any word bad by using it wrong?
 
Wait, people have a whole list of racial slurs? Why do you need it?
 
I'm not arguing for or against using the word. Just trying to fact-find why someone may have found that word in a database of words to alter.
 
@Dharman We need it to ban words. Words are bad, lets ban them all.
I'm going to start with "tech". Lets find a way to add it to the list.
 
8:27 PM
Some of the "slurs" on this website are, erm, pretty debatable...
 
lol!.. The numbers 539 and 925 is suppose to be offensive according to the list
Isn't silver usually stamped with 925?
 
10% off is also offensive. No more sales!
 
Sticks and stones may break my bones But words offend me
 
@Dharman It makes sense. If one can't stop the killing, it's always good to just ban words.
at least it will make more people confused and frustrated, since everyone with silver jewelry has a bad number stamped on them :D
Oops.. "ban" is off too. Maybe that's why it's now a review "suspension"
 
How can I flag a sock-puppet if the account has already been deleted?
 
8:37 PM
@Dharman As with any time you need to flag, but don't have a specific post: pick a post, really any post, but one of your own is usually considered most appropriate.
 
@Makyen stop slacking off with your former friends, there is work to do :)
 
Actually, I realized my question was stupid, because I can simply use one of the questions.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, but wouldn't call them "former", just that I've gained more.
 
"oldest"?
 
yeah, that was a nasty joke :)
 
8:39 PM
@Makyen Thank you :) We were really scared for moment there
 
@Dharman I would have liked seen you elected too. So don't lose the faith and see you in next election.
 
You made friends in the Blue room? I really need to get elected ...
 
I will try to work on my reputation and hopefully run in the elections next year.
 
Is "lazy" one of the newly banned words? Or, more specifically, is this comment unfriendly?
 
@Dharman I look forward to seeing you run again. (and winning!)
 
8:42 PM
@AdrianMole I think "lazy" is specifically mentioned in the Code of Conduct. "Focus on the content, not the person. This includes terms that feel personal even when they're applied to content (e.g. “lazy”)."
 
@Scratte OK, so I have flagged the comment. I was just too insufficiently motivated to do so before.
 
But according to the new "slur" list, Apple is offensive too.. I may need to study it :D
 
@Scratte "Apple" in the context of fruit, or as a hardware manufacturer?
 
@Dharman your canned comment was flagged as "unfriendly"
Warning: You are wide open to SQL Injections and should use parameterized prepared statements instead of manually building your queries. They are provided by PDO or by MySQLi. Never trust any kind of input! Even when your queries are executed only by trusted users, you are still in risk of corrupting your data. Escaping is not enough!Dharman 23 hours ago
Of course it is not unfriendly. Declining...
 
hehe
 
8:53 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Then why warn me? :D This comment has been flagged multiple times and some mods actually go ahead and delete it.
 
people are offended by "you revealed your password on the internet" kind of comments.
Yes, I've seen this comment multiple times. There's no point in warning you, actually. Keep posting them 😀 @Dharman
I suppose other mods either leave it or decline+delete.
I wouldn't warn anyone in public anyway if they had done something wrong.
 
That's ok. I suppose my actions have been flagged multiple times already.
Even today I had yet another satisfied customer on Meta
 
don't worry, I get some of my comments deleted as unfriendly... not appreciating the deletions that much ...
 
@AdrianMole It doesn't say.. but it's there twice.
 
The problem with comments is that I don't mean to sound unfriendly. I am happy to delete it myself when someone points it out to me.
 
8:59 PM
people don't want to hear things they don't want to hear...
 
Trying to state the obvious? :)
 
and succeeding.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre it is unfriendly to SQL ...
 
😀 so maybe the bot will autoflag it?
 
:D
 
9:07 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm more offended for the indentation of that question.
 
Bad indentation can get you suspended
 
It's off by two :(
 
2 day suspension then.
 
I'll start with port java.util.List next time I post something. Just to get ahead two days.
 
At least they said "Thanks for reading!" so I guess it is not rude
 
9:17 PM
haha that's what I said to myself when I nuked the post :)
you can safely flag those as rude or abusive. Clearly abusive. Even on meta...
 
Did somebody start a Yoda-speak trend in here a few hours ago?
 
me it wasn't
 
I think it was the Apocryphal Female Sith.
 
@Scratte How so? What specific changes to the timeline?
 
Added border between review start and end
 
9:28 PM
@AdrianMole Guilty, I am
 
@DanielWiddis Don't worry, Padawan.
 
@AdrianMole Clicks link. Laughs. Votes.
 
I was reliably (I thought) informed in this very room that posts flagged as R/A are never selected as audits. What happened here?
 
@CodyGray It used to look like this. Now it looks like that. Cramped up and multiple "red" events are harder to tell apart. Like does the "Edit x 1" belong to the line above or below it?
 
9:34 PM
@AdrianMole Hmm... I myself got it from who I thought was a reliable source. That is odd.
 
I mean - there really ain't much doubt about why it was flagged, huh?
 
@Scratte Thanks, that's helpful.
I've shared that feedback.
 
@CodyGray Shared? As in agreed?
 
@Scratte Shared, as in told other people. Shouted from the rooftops. Speaking of... can I bother you to put that up on Meta as a bug report?
 
Seems odd to put that fence in for two queues but not apply the same philosophy to others.
 
9:40 PM
@AdrianMole So.. you failed it? :D
 
@Scratte You're taking criticism of my review skills just a bit too far. ;-P
 
If moderators are routinely deleting perfectly fine comments, like Dharman’s canned one, shouldn’t you all have a discussion about that in the moderator chat?
 
Discussions in the moderator chat don't necessarily converge on consensus.
 
@AdrianMole Only like 50% of the words in the post are offensive, I could see missing that myself. Better luck next time.
 
@Andreas I would not say routinely. It just looks like some comments disappear no matter what.
 
9:42 PM
Some mods delete virtually anything that has been flagged...
 
@CodyGray No, that’s obvious. So this means there are moderators that actually think Dharman’s canned comment is unfriendly, even after having heard counter argumenra.
 
Not everyone is like me and pedantically insists on reading it.
No, there are people who just delete everything that's flagged.
 
@CodyGray Am I allowed to say that this is not good moderator work?
 
@CodyGray Thank you. I didn't have time to be useful on Stack today. I was busy reverting CSS disasters ;) A post on meta, you say?.. I'll think about it, since I expect I need to actually write something useful too.
 
9:44 PM
@Andreas You wouldn't be the first. I can hardly disallow you from saying what I have said dozens of times.
 
Seems a little too short for a proper answer
 
@Scratte It doesn't have to be a whole lot more than what you wrote in here...
Your original complaint, how this demotivates you and makes you want to stop reviewing, pointing out the specific change, showing screenshots...
@Dharman Maybe, sorta kinda, but seems like it could be improved by editing. Just put more of the person's comment into the answer.
I don't see how deleting it is going to help. It will just leave that question unanswered, and someone else will later have to come along and expand the comment(s) into an answer.
 
@CodyGray I can't mention how it demotivated review, since there will just turn out be a long list of people telling me I don't need to look at the timeline ;)
 
Maybe we can just edit it into a good answer? Oops, of course Cody already suggested that.
 
@Scratte Make it general: constant changes like this, many of which introduce UI/UX regressions, are really beginning to suppress my motivation to continue participating...
 
9:47 PM
But some UI/UX changes are nice. We now get "thanked" for doing a full review-queue quota in a nice blue box.
 
@CodyGray I assume it’s been happening for a long time, then. I’d have thought it would be generating consequences for whoever does that.
 
@AdrianMole They recently made a moderator-only page/tool look nicer and be responsive. So, yes, not all UI/UX changes are bad. Some are nice. Others are... not. If only there was a way to tell the difference. Maybe like... and stop me if you've heard this before... get a couple of people together to like, check it out... review it... test it before it is rolled out.
@Andreas My rants don't usually have consequences, thank goodness.
 
@AdrianMole Did you see the big blue boxes I get for every queue I can't access?
I spent 30 minutes removing those.. (I'm not fast when it comes to figuring out CSS)
 
Not to sound like a broken record (does anyone even still know what that analogy means?), but you should have reported that regression on Meta, too.
If it's not reported, the designer's nose can't be rubbed in it, and it can't be fixed.
Fixing it yourself is commendable for other reasons, but it doesn't really help others.
 
I know it doesn't.. I did post a fix for low-reputation users to the flag dialog, but I do not think anyone will find it.. and there's a post about it, but no changes to it. No putting the back to the right side.
 
9:56 PM
@CodyGray You shouldn’t be the only one complaining. SE shouldn’t allow robohandling flags.
 
@Scratte The messages are the same, and in the same format - just with a pale blue background added in a nice, round-cornered rectangular box.
 
@Scratte I guess I didn't see that post...
 
@AdrianMole I have no plans to enter the review queues before Christmas, so thanks for telling me :)
 
@eyllanesc That’s a duplicate of some ternary operator or list comprehension question, though you probably just didn’t care to find it, I assume?
 
9:59 PM
@Scratte Oh, I did see that. Yeah. I also upvoted it.
Well, not everything gets fixed. I guess all I can say is, that was a conscious design choice. The rest of these are regressions.
 
@CodyGray It's bad even if it's conscious ;)
 
You've seen this, right? Yes, it's very bad.
 
The dialog without the personal CSS changes occupies almost my entire screen.
 
> atomic classes
I didn't see that...
 
@CodyGray I've landed on it. No idea how to use it..
 
10:04 PM
«Robust»
 
@Braiam Take a look at the HTML some time.
For example, the timeline view we were talking about earlier.
 
.. oh yes. I got to "npm install".. and I thought "I don't really feel the need to install something to install something else."
 
I don't get it, if the objective was consistency, then having a class for element-in-context would allow for that consistency.
> you can build most of what you’re attempting to do without writing a single new line of CSS
:facepalm:
 
Why can't I simply delete questions like this? stackoverflow.com/q/12898323/1839439
This is the most demotivating thing
 
10:09 PM
@Dharman You have to downvote it first.
 
@Dharman Because you didn't win the election :)
 
I am trying to do some cleanup and I can't perform the most important action
 
@Andreas That is... literally exactly what Stacks has....
Well, it doesn't have font-family styles. But otherwise... Those margin styles look like they're copy-pasted.
 
@CodyGray Yeah, I downvoted, but there is an answer.
 
You can't vote to delete the question just because it has an answer? I don't remember that .
 
10:10 PM
It's not closed
 
The OP can't delete it, but you should be able to cast a delete vote.
Oh, right. Not closed. Yes.
 
I can't close because I need two more people
I can only add a PHP tag
 
The lack of a bright yellow banner below the question can easily mislead people into thinking that the question isn't closed.
 
Narrator: With the moderator election having been lost, Dharman realized his only option was to create two sockpuppets and earn the right to single-handedly close all the bad PHP questions.
 
Very satisfied reader, or something more nefarious? stackoverflow.com/a/63081612
 
10:12 PM
Now I wonder, isn't it better to have at least one with gold badge?
 
@CodyGray I think we found their inspiration.
 
@IanCampbell So good they posted it to multiple questions... :-(
 
I didn't want to mention it earlier.. but the sock post was closed.. and it's been left closed in the re-open queue.
 
@CodyGray I wouldn't target a user in this room...
 
@Scratte It's been noted.
 
10:13 PM
@IanCampbell Looks like spam
 
10:26 PM
@Dharman I have a present for you stackoverflow.com/a/63081210
 
Thanks, edited
 
No, thank you
 
Am I missing something? Do I sense sarcasm?
 
No, I'm genuinely thanking you for removing needless stuff. I thought you'd enjoy it.
I can do it myself next time
 
You forgot to end your message with "HTH", @Ian.
Without that, how were we supposed to know?
 
10:33 PM
Seriously, I have made so many edits I am the top editor this week.
 
Is there an editor league somewhere?
 
Is this a bug or did I break something? stackoverflow.com/posts/63040350/revisions
 
Ah cool, thanks.
 
@Dharman Looks fine to me. What are you referring to?
 
It is highlighting the whole list. I didn't change the list.
 
10:37 PM
Meh, you kinda did. You changed indentation. The diffs aren't very good.
 
@Dharman Such happens all the time.
 
Is starting an answer with "No!" rude? Should I use different words?
 
Maybe just . instead of !?
 
@AnnZen Please flag such cases. We can't do much here
 
10:45 PM
@AnnZen What do you want to be done about that? If you think it is "not an answer" and should be deleted, you should raise a flag accordingly.
@Dharman Definitely not!
 
"Definitely not!" is not much better than "No!". Is it?
 
No way!
 
If "No!" is rude, then "Yes!" is equally so, is not?
 
Absolutely!
 
I mean I don't think "No!" is rude, but new users may feel better if you aren't so strong.
 
10:48 PM
For example, in a question about whether or not a Standard says if "x" is defined, one could answer (properly): "No! The Standard, in fact says ..."
 
@CodyGray Just FYI: ignore in this case was not needed, nor was it effective. The post was reported because the user was on the user blacklist, not for an inherent property of the post. Thus, there's no reason to ignore this particular post. Just fp feedback would remove the user from the user blacklist, and the post would not be reported again. In general, we don't ignore posts unless they have content which is going to be detected again, and it has been detected more than once.
On occasion, we do preemptively ignore, but rarely.
 
@Makyen Ah, okay... I thought ignore would get the user off the blacklist. How do I do that? (Gah, never mind. You said that.)
 
@CodyGray Done. Feel free to rephrase. I tried to use as few g's and h's as I could :D
 
@AdrianMole Yeah, I used your advice. stackoverflow.com/a/63082417/1839439
 
@Scratte Thank you, quirkiness aside.
 
10:57 PM
Meta is better because of its quirkiness.
 
Dharman, I like the first word. It really sets the tone!
 
askin' duckduck about quirkiness
 
@Dharman Not a real criticism, but I would have used "No! Until..." in place of "No, unitl..." The latter looks a bit grammatically suspect.
 

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