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1:11 AM
@Scratte If SD autoflags a post, then the first flag that is raised is from the SmokeDetector account, if there are any remaining. The times there are a huge number of autoflaggable posts on a single SE site are quite rare, but it has happened that there have been enough such that SD ran out of flags from all users who signed up for auotflagging on the site and who matched the criteria of the flood of spam.
@TylerH @Dharman @S.S.Anne @Scratte For SD/metasmoke autoflagging, users are permitted to specify under what circumstances they will allow their account to be used to autoflag: on which sites, how many flags maximum on a per site basis, and the conditions which the post must meet in order to use a flag from the user's account. For the conditions, 99.7% likely to be spam is the absolute minimum which it's permitted for a user to adjust the criteria down to. The default is more than 99.99%.
 
1:37 AM
I wish when I cast a "duplicate" vote on a question with two "off-topic" votes, it would link the dupe target I suggested in the notice...by casting that vote, I am disagreeing with the off-topic vote and saying it's on-topic, just that it has an answer elsewhere.</gripe>
oh, ha, it was actually one linked in here earlier...
@M-- this is ultimately a question about how to import SVGs, despite the weird phrasing and talk about PNGs, since they've already found the offsite resource and now want to import the result. There's a good canonical question for that at stackoverflow.com/q/30923205
 
1:56 AM
Thoughts on if this (community wiki) question is off-topic/opinion based? stackoverflow.com/questions/2180971/…
It was linked to justify a similar question about mnemonics that I think is similarly not-great
 
2:14 AM
(same one linked in my above "Thoughts on..." message)
 
 
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4:24 AM
is that spam?
it has a keyword they'd like to rank for and a clickable link to their website...maybe a clever attempt at getting the spam to stick...not sure though
 
@RyanM While it may effectively be spam, it reads more like an actual question than intentional spam. Unless there are other indicators (e.g. multiple posts), we should give them the benefit of doubt.
 
doesn't mean we can't delete post-haste manually
 
4:37 AM
Sounds like a good plan to me
 
 
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7:20 AM
What's the best way to handle answer like that last one from Smokey? It does (attempt to) answer the question, but then there's an obvious (and unrelated) spam link at the end. Do we flag, or just edit out the spammy bit?
Never mind - the user seems to be doing it multiple times, so they're gonna get flags from me, from now on.
 
 
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8:25 AM
@AdrianMole Those tend to be plagiarism with the spam link added. When they have that type of feel, it's a good idea to search to see if the content is plagiarized. Sometimes it's from another answer on the same question, another post on the same site, some other SE site, or some site not related to SE. In the above case, it was plagiarized from developer.android.com.
If it's not plagiarism and it's just someone adding a signature to their valid and helpful post, then you can edit the signature out of the post and leave a comment informing the user that SO doesn't use signatures in posts; that the user card provides attribution for the post; and that they can put extraneous information in their profile, if they want to include other things. If they keep including a signature in their posts, then flag for a moderator.
 
@Makyen Thanks for that! I shall check more carefully for such copied-content in future. As it happens, in that case, before I could really do that, the user's other post came up from Smokey, and that was a clear case of spam, so my investigation needed no further effort.
 
Sounds good
 
9:43 AM
@halfer ;
!!/coffee halfer
 
@rene brews a cup of Cappuccino for @halfer
 
9:55 AM
Hi o/
 
Gah, I am at it again!
Would someone zap my dodgy work above? ;-) cc @rene. I have re-raised it.
 
By coincidence I ordered a bunch of coffee equipment, hopefully the rest of it will come today. Professional bean grinder, temperature-controlled digital kettle, Aeropress and filters, and of course beans.
New (tasty) hobby! I have been brushing up on coffee videos on YouTube.
 
that will be helpful to improve on your CV-pls ... ;)
 
10:15 AM
Yep!
{slurp}
 
11:07 AM
Should this edit have been approved?
 
@Scratte I'd say so, the licensing issues with copying code into a post only apply when it's copied from somewhere that's not stack overflow
well...actually, the post is still pretty unclear. but it makes it enough better that I would've approved it, at least.
 
@RyanM Ok. I thought that transcribing code from an image may lead to a typo, so that the code may not be the same as the code run by the poster.
 
hmmm, that is a good point
 
Maybe some post on meta will tell :)
 
in this case I doubt they made any significant typos
they left out the comment, though
 
11:20 AM
Seems there's a lack on consensus on the topic See the previous answer..
..or not a "split consensus". This community wiki answer is very clear
 
12:07 PM
For some reason the Visual Studio debugger quits on me but without leaving any clues why. I probably screwed in an unmanaged way ...
 
@rene Notepad++ FTW
 
@rene That is the normal silent treatment when *** wrong ;)
 
Turns out that having Resharper print a very long line is not going to work. I added a strategic \r\n and now stuff runs fine ...
 
1:15 PM
@rene sounds like your code introduced a bug into Visual Studio. Impressive...
 
@TylerH Glad you value my impressiveness
 
1:29 PM
@Reimeus FYI, there's no indication this is a homework question, and non-homework questions do not require an existing attempt at implementing some solution
 
@TylerH there is no attempt to solve the given problem, perhaps too broad in that case
 
@Reimeus I'm not arguing against the cv-pls, to be clear, just one part of the reasoning. I don't know enough about Java to know whether it's Too Broad or Unclear :-)
 
I find it clear. It's a well described work order :)
 
1:50 PM
 
2:32 PM
I don't think this is meant to be spammy, but I think several NAA's may be a good way to make it go. User has posted another answer without any links. Any thoughts?
 
@Scratte I've just flagged them both as spam. The other does have the same link but it was incorrectly formatted so you can't see it
 
@DavidBuck Nice catch.. you should post a spam one the other one here. The moderator getting the flag may not see it
 
@Scratte I did wonder if the second one might get rejected if the mod looks at the text and not the source
 
@DavidBuck enough spam flags and it won't ever come under the mods' noses
:-)
 
^ that's the one with the hidden link
 
2:37 PM
@Scratte 2 answers both linking to the same thing. Spam
 
that should be enough
 
M--
3:13 PM
@TylerH Would you bin this: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=49075567? Seems another SME understood their question. Thanks.
 
3:31 PM
@TylerH @M-- binned per your request
 
@TylerH @DavidBuck binned per your request
 
3:51 PM
 
4:05 PM
(does not disclose affiliation)
 
 
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5:15 PM
^^ Spam?
I am going with yes
 
^ Spanish spam. Two answers on the same Question. (just landed on it in a review)
 
Si, espamio!
 
@Dharman I'm on your tail.. you missed something :)
 
@Scratte huh? I am making dinner
 
@Dharman You're making spam for dinner? What?
 
@Scratte Your comment has just appeared on another spam post I am looking at, so you might be right
@Machavity No, I am making potato waffles, served with potato wedges and fish fingers.
 
@Dharman I was about to submit when your comment appeared, so I removed the bit that was redundant, due to your message :) I didn't even have time to flag it though :)
@Dharman Those fish fingers are very useful for fish when they count..
 
5:41 PM
@Dharman With spam on top, obviously
And a nice Mornay sauce.
 
@Dharman I'm starting to get the feel for your new Bot/Room. The recent "Long answer, no code block" is an excellent find!
 
@AdrianMole Are you improving your flag statistics again? ;)
 
@Scratte Trying to, but the "Martijn-Bot" is about at the moment, and he's nuking most of what I find either a minute before I get there, or even while I'm reading stuff.
 
5:58 PM
@AdrianMole You read entire spam posts?
 
Not spam, but many of those spotted by Natty or TagBot are worthy of NAA flags.
 
@AdrianMole Yes. I read them twice before flagging.. just in case :)
 
6:28 PM
@S.S.Anne Seems to be a pattern - Morse Code Spam?
2
 
Maybe they fell asleep on their keyboard.
 
Two accounts, very similar (dots) and posted within a few minutes of each other. Mod flag?
 
@AdrianMole The second one is not just dots. Looking at the raw text it's kind of like a list
 
Nah, they'll be found anyway. If we see something similar again then I'll suggest an IP ban.
 
@TylerH I don't feel strongly about it, but this one looks like it has a good answer
 
6:36 PM
@halfer If you mean the 'dupe' that is the target of the just-deleted one, then isn't that off-topic as "recommending off-site resources?"
 
Both the questions SD just mentioned are on-topic.
 
OK, so what do do about this one It is a stated exact duplicate of the poster's previous 'answer', which Martijn deleted about an hour ago.
... times like this when I most miss the mods hanging in the room.
 
@AdrianMole I left a comment and NAA'ed it
 
@AdrianMole if a moderator-deleted answer is reposted verbatim, it's usually safe to just flag for mods and say 'verbatim repost of a mod-deleted answer'
the handling mod will take a look and delete or ask the original mod to take a look
 
I gave it this in my mod-flag, "This is a quoted/stated EXACT re-post of the poster's other 'answer' that was Moderator-deleted about an hour ago."
 
6:49 PM
..that is so much better than what I did :) But I do think they are not aware of the "answers have to be answers"-thing
 
@Scratte User has 375 rep. and has been around for over 7 years ... so should be aware.
... I also up-voted your comment. :)
 
@Scratte Everyone is expected to be aware of the basic rules around asking / answering; ignorance of the law is no excuse
 
@AdrianMole I usually check for "Informed" badges, before telling a user to see the tour.
 
But if a moderator deletes, I think it's verging on abusive to then re-post, especially when you add "[named moderator] deleted it, so I'll try again!"
... Moderators have feelings too, you know (even Bot-Mods).
 
I don't know if there was an informed badge 7 years ago though.
 
6:53 PM
@AdrianMole I was referring to this answer (stackoverflow.com/a/38728356/472495), but no matter - the page is deleted now. To be fair, the Q was VLQ.
 
^ OK, crossed wires.
 
NP :-)
 
@TylerH I'm not trying to make any excuses. Just trying to find a reason :)
 
@Scratte The informed badge was introduced on 17 January 2013, so yes it is just approximately 7 years 3 months old :-)
 
@TylerH Ahh.. so, 3 months too late :) How did you find out when it was introduced?
 
6:59 PM
@Scratte I went to the badge page for Informed and went to the last page of users who have had it assigned
 
@TylerH Awesome! So simple. I would have fallen into a hole going the meta way :)
 
@JonClements feel free to pick a timeslot between 15:00 UTC and 21:00 UTC on weekdays. That seem to fit for most of the RO's.
 
7:49 PM
Are we allowed to del-pls an answer that doesn't answer the question?
@Scratte One of the flags I made yesterday was helpful. The others are still pending.
 
@S.S.Anne sure, if you be clear about why it doesn't answer the question
 
@S.S.Anne are you sure the answer shouldn't be kept as an example? The downvotes plus comments might help explain where this matters, which is otherwise missing from that question
 
8:10 PM
 
@S.S.Anne Thanks. I noticed :)
Is there anywhere to find out which comments one made that got tiny-voted?
 
@Scratte No.
 
@S.S.Anne Welp.. :D Ok, thanks :)
 
@Scratte what is 'tiny voted'?
 
@S.S.Anne Meh. I'd leave it. It's not junk, nor good, but it is an answer. Sometimes you need to leave the bad stuff as a reminder
 
8:24 PM
 
@TylerH No-rep comment vote. I think of them as a tiny-vote.
 
ah
they're just comment (up)votes :-)
I think you can check that on SEDE maybe? @rene might know
 
@TylerH I apparently got a badge for tiny-votes.. no idea why. Looking at activity comments, doesn't give a clue, and I talk a lot.. so not really wanting to go through all that! Depends if that is public information. I never log into SEDE.
 
@Scratte You get a badge once you've left 10 comments, and then you get another one once at least 10 of your comments have reached a score of 5 or higher.
it's all public as anyone can see your undeleted comments by visiting your profile page
 
@TylerH It's the second one. The first one doesn't count the tiny-votes :)
 
8:37 PM
@Scratte comment and chat badges are listed under "Participation Badges" here.
 
@AdrianMole I know. I'm trying to tweak a SEDE Query to tell me which comments set off the badge :)
 
Click on the badge in your profile, and it will tell you when you earned it ... that will maybe narrow down the search.
 
@AdrianMole Today.. on meta.
 
So how many comments on Meta have you made today? Too many to look through?
 
I don't think it's for 10 comments with 5 votes on one day. I think it's total :)
 
8:45 PM
Yeah, I get it. You can't see when a comment has been up-voted. Sorry, I think I need coffee.
 
@Scratte I doubt that's possible.
 
Interestingly, I only found 8 comments that have a score of 5 or more for you
 
@TylerH I got the SEDE Query working. Thanks for the idea. I think it counts comments that have been deleted or sits on deleted posts, because there's only 7 comment
@TylerH I used this one: data.stackexchange.com/meta.stackoverflow/query/1223996/… No idea why I didn't pick my own userid 12695027
 
@Scratte The other flags were marked helpful, too.
 
@S.S.Anne Thank you :) That was fast.
 
8:54 PM
Yep, I miscounted earlier:

#comment763340_395950
#comment762732_395971
#comment762399_394893
#comment762419_394890
#comment760634_394747
#comment759299_394516
#comment757666_394284
 
@TylerH Are they useful if one doesn't have the post url?
@S.S.Anne I doubt that's possible too. I wasn't looking to find when they were voted. @AdrianMole just needs coffee :)
 
@Scratte Dunno; I just truncated the links for reference and so I didn't have to post 7 long, actual links in chat
 
@TylerH Ok. No need to. I remember that I made them :)
 
9:16 PM
 
@AdrianMole IMO that's RA
 
But some of my best friends are bananas.
 
but the question is not about bananas
 
hehe
You're right - brain-lapse on my part.
 
waffles
 
9:35 PM
fixed :-)
 
Anyone here have experience with Game Boy development?
 
9:48 PM
me is out of delete votes for today
Will someone bin this request? I have been convinced otherwise about the answer being needed. (cc @TylerH)
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
ty
 
np
 
that's a really interesting case...while I agree with you that it shouldn't be deleted, oh wow did they match the exact phrasing from the NAA flag
 
10:06 PM
@S.S.Anne I think I still have some, but I won't post another del-pls request today anymore
 
10:36 PM
I'm looking at an android question I see two answers from 2019 and two from 2020. Should the two from 2020 go? They seem to just repeat what the other two are saying.
 
@Scratte No. If you want to, you can downvote, but it doesn't really matter.
 
@S.S.Anne Ok. I thought there was a strong dislike to copy-cat answers :)
 
11:24 PM
Duplicate answers or plagiarism, yes. But just restating the same thing over again is just something you downvote.
 
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