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12:12 AM
Not sure how to present this one, Just know that it needs to be closed and deleted stackoverflow.com/questions/60908572/…
Might even be considered spam. Thoughts?
 
@Nkosi custom close perhaps (as I did)
 
@Nkosi That's the problem that we do not have a flag for such use cases.
I can ask a question about pet grooming and all you can do is close as off-topic.
 
12:29 AM
Is this an answer? The author is claiming that is is an answer. stackoverflow.com/a/60908165/1839439
Ok, 2 people in review already agree with me. There was no question.
 
@Dharman no, obviously not
 
12:52 AM
@Dharman What about the question? Should it be closed as it is not the best quality
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I am not an SME on Node.js, but probably it should be closed. I will let others be a judge of that
 
@Dharman I had to look up "SME" -- "subject matter expert" sounds about right
 
 
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9:56 AM
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11:49 AM
Is it advisable to tell users that their Question about software tools may be asked on Software Recommendations?
 
@Scratte I sometimes do, though that sub has gotten frustrated with SO in the past
I don't use that sub, so I tend to say the question author should check the on-topic rules first
 
@halfer Sorry, what does sub mean?
 
Zoe
@Scratte SE site, in this context
 
o_O
 
Is it short for substitute?
 
Zoe
11:59 AM
sub site.
 
Ok, thank you :)
 
@Scratte Sorry, "Sub" is more of a chatroom - I think it is short for "Subscription" i.e. what rooms one is subscribed to. It's common in the Reddit world. Not the right word, really - sorry :)
Ooh, or what @Zoe says - "sub site" would also fit the meaning.
 
@halfer No worries. I've never used reddit. I find it to be a confusing place. Everytime to go there and search for stuff I end up with "How to blow this up"
 
Zoe
12:14 PM
@Scratte subreddit is just a board that's a part of the bigger reddit. On SE, a sub site makes sense because of naming. In addition, each site is technically a a site that's a part of the bigger SE. Not entirely the same, but it's similar
 
@Scratte Heh, I've not seen that one yet! I am normally signed in, so I don't see stuff that is not relevant to me.
@Zoe Yeah, that makes sense :-)
 
Thank you both. I had plans to educate myself about Reddit as it seems very popular, but I'm too busy with meta.so
 
12:33 PM
@Scratte It's a type of sandwich
 
@Dharman Or a very annoying speaker, when it's next door.
 
Heh heh
 
1:02 PM
"We're doing some emergency maintenance and there may be an outage for up to 10 minutes. We'll be back as soon as possible." - nooooo
 
Zoe
@Dharman No! It's a train, of course
 
Not enough people to ride the train. Everybody is staying locked down in their own houses.
 
@Dharman I guess you're finding this sub-optimal?
 
Of course, I wanted to annoy some people now with my flagging and editing.
 
sigh
 
1:19 PM
The server is down , the server is down!!!!!!
ah memories
At least chat is still up and running (knock on wood)
:P
 
That is indeed sub-lime
 
1:57 PM
I don't understand how this got two upvotes. To me it just repeats a snippet from the much more comprehensive answer posted 5 hours earlier, and a piece of common knowledge.
 
Looks like a "nice try, new contributor" upvote.
 
@DavidBuck To be honest, the one 5 hours earlier did nothing to highlight what they did. They just posted the code with "I think you can figure it out".
 
@Scratte True enough that that is hardly a five star answer either, but at least it's original.
 
@DavidBuck It's a debugging questions really. The 5-votes answer is a copy-paste of the question with that one line changed (maybe two). I actually prefer the later answer.
 
2:28 PM
@Scratte A third answer has arrived that covers the exact same ground as the other two (albeit, it would undoubtedly be the best answer if it had arrived first). I wonder how many more?
 
see comments
 
@rene: awesome
 
I will follow Him. Follow Him wherever He may go.
 
2:45 PM
There isn't an ocean too deep
 
A mountain so high it can keep
me away from my God
 
3:01 PM
Is it just me or have the very recent changes broken the cv-pls script?
 
checking
@DavidBuck Which version are you using? Which OS/browser/userscript manager?
 
MacOS/Chrome/Tampermonkey - the cv-pls option has just disappeared since I last used it at 15:24
 
@DavidBuck A quick test appears to work for me.
@DavidBuck Which version of the script are you using?
@DavidBuck I assume you tried reloading the page. Correct?
 
@Makyen Yes, and 1.6.11
 
I was going to say that it is broken for me as well but I realized I'm on my laptop where I don't have the cv-pls script installed .....
 
3:14 PM
@rene inbox already seeing red, nope, unfollow, unfollow now
 
@DavidBuck 1.6.11 is working for me in Firefox. I'll try it in Chrome in a moment. Given that you are not using Firefox + Greasemonkey, it's recommended that you use the alpha version. It's considered alpha because it isn't compatible with Greasemonkey 4.x on Firefox, but does work on everything else.
 
before things get blurry
 
@Makyen I'd already checked the alpha version/Firefox/Tampermonkey, which is also working for me.
 
@Makyen Yep, that works. Thanks.
 
3:31 PM
I've accidentally retracted my flag on this "Thanks" answer. Can someone else please flag.
 
3:46 PM
@Dharman I'm happy to talk further, but let's move this discussion to SOCVR Testing Facility test, as it's really not the main topic for SOCVR.
 
@Des Always happy to give feedback :-)
 
@DavidBuck I think closing as typo would probably be sufficient there
A NAA might be declined on that since, technically, it is an answer
 
@Dharman I've seen images of code before, but this one takes the cake
 
@JohnDvorak What do you mean, the code is clearly visible, isn't it? :D I have no idea how did they even made such screenshots.
 
@Dharman you lay your phone on the table and shoot it with a telephoto camera
 
ohh, so it's not a screenshot, it's a picture
 
5:06 PM
@Dharman This made me smile. It almost looks like art. The energy put into that is admirable :)
 
@Scratte I wonder if I could make a Meta feature request that causes any posts featuring the word "plz" to enter account suspension for a month? :=)
 
Sigh... I keep pressing share.
 
There's a reward in it for you
 
@Dharman Yes. When adding functionality or new buttons it's always much safer to not rearrange things. I find it equally annoying. It should have been put in between edit and flag.
 
Or, given that they have a star icon for favorite, which is located under voting, and they've already put the timeline icon/link there, they could have created an icon and put it under/over the timeline icon. It's really strange to have timeline, which is a link, as an icon, while all the other links are in the post-menu (e.g. "share", "close", "flag", etc), and have both the favorite and follow buttons, which are both toggles, in different locations.
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Better would have been to put both toggles in the one general area and all the links in the one general area, not just mix and match.
 
5:38 PM
You could almost say that the page design bears clear proof it was evolved through random mutations rather than designed :D
 
@Makyen One can always count on you to see the bigger picture and be the voice of reason :)
 
@Scratte :) Thanks.
 
 
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@Nkosi yeah, as a test I followed that following announcement question and then made and had dinner. 16 inboxes messages later I've seen enough.
 
I tried it with an actual new question on SO that was active and was like nope, this is way too much.
That is why we can't have nice things :P
 
Oh we can have nice things, this just isn't one of them :P
 
Sounds like it would be better to have a single inbox notification per followed post saying "there's new activity on ..."; or "there's new comments on ...", "there's a new answer on ...", and "there's an edit on ..."
 
SO seems to struggle in that dept, when FB already got it right
 
7:01 PM
@Makyen yeah, one ping every 6 to 8 minutes ...
 
7:20 PM
Room owner (@machevity, @makyen, @rene), this question is no longer unclear. Now it is a classic and umpteen millionth duplicate of this question
 
@Nkosi I don't think following a brand new question is a good idea. The first 15 minutes can be hectic.
 
yep. wanted to see how it would work out. that hard way. lol
I'll use this to monitor flagged posts.
 
8:04 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Why can't you hammer it?
ahh you voted with another reason.
 
@Dharman exactly
 
8:16 PM
If anyone wants to try their luck with a custom flag, this and this duplicate answer wasn't caught by the daily script.
 
@Scratte It's a daily script? I thought it was instantanous
@Scratte Why aren't you flagging.
 
@Dharman I have OCD, I think..
 
@Scratte Me too, it would explain why I am still editing questions on Stack Overflow :=/
 
Flagged
 
@halfer I need another 751 helpful flags. If I get just one more unhelpful (declined) one, I'll need 200 more helpful ones to make up for it.
 
8:25 PM
@Scratte huh? What kind of math sharades are these?
If you want helpful flags then this one was one of the easiest ones to get helpful flags.
Clear case of a duplicate answer.
 
The mod flagger user script.. :)
 
The what?
You use userscript to flag mods?
 
@Dharman No. It's a script for moderators. They use it to see flagging statistics on users :)
 
You mean mods keep track on our flagging patterns? Ouch mine must be terrible.
 
@Scratte Ouch. You can have some of mine, I'm not using 'em!
 
8:31 PM
I flag everything. I let mods decide if it needs to be deleted.
 
@Dharman I don't one if they all do. Some do. You can install it and see your own statistics. Or just calculate it. You obviously can't see anyone else's statistics.
 
Could you share a link? I promise I won't flag as NAA.
 
@Dharman It took a while to find it.. it's Samuel's, so I figured it was best to find the chat message: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/48867297#48867297
But please.. Be warned!! This may make you more OCD..
 
I am only a silver flagger? What? I thought I was golden.
 
I'll give you another identical answer, if you want it :)
 
8:40 PM
98.46%
@Scratte Hmm, maybe I should write a bot for this too...
 
@Dharman which badge is for flagging?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Marshal and Deputy, if they're the standard badges
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels What do you mean?
 
Got it, Marshal
thanks
 
Ohh, yeah that badge. Yes, I only have 1 Marshal badge
 
8:43 PM
@Dharman: then there you go. You can only have one Marshal badge
 
@Scratte If you are not going to flag it, you can let me. I still have 49 flags left.
 
these are not identical, but almost this, this and this. They also seem to be promoting a library with only one contributor, so.. I left a comment on the first one, but no reply
 
that looks like outright spam
 
Then it's not going to get you closer to the "Gold mod stat" :D. That only counts post flags :)
 
A spam flag could be declined. I will raise a custom mod flag anyway.
 
8:53 PM
I just looked at their last two posts. They seem to be promoting the same library too. Sorry for not seeing that before.
 
9:04 PM
Also, I don't really like the answer to this Question: stackoverflow.com/questions/59150825/…
 
@Scratte If you add [spam] tag to your chat message it will be clearer you are asking us to spam flag
 
@Dharman I wasn't sure it was. The Question is asking for a recommandation. The Answer could be edited to include a "my project"
 
Yeah, but it would be more explicit what you meant. Saying I don't like an answer is not very forward.
 
@Dharman You're right. I think the question needs to go. I only noticed it because of the answer though.
 
Agreed
 
9:19 PM
I can flag it for Off-site resource. It seems to be flaggable for multiple reasons. Need focus too. But I can only flag. I don't even know what happens when I do. I expect it ends up in the close vote queue
 
@Scratte Yes, it is put in the close-vote queue.
 
@Makyen Thank you. It'll take some time to handle then :) Good thing I have patience :)
 
 
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10:47 PM
Note: When getting an audit on a post one's previously flagged, it cannot be flagged again.
 
11:27 PM
The cv-pls at chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/48972377#48972377 can be binned (the OP edited the question to add code and to explicitly note that no error messages are being logged; and I retracted my own close vote on it)
 
11:59 PM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 

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