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4:36 AM
@Makyen Did things change regarding the post q/post self answer/delete/edit/undelete recently? I've known of several cases (not notable before now) where users have done so when posting self-answers - they post a question, a quick note as an answer, delete the question, and polish both the question and answer into acceptable form and then undelete the Q to have a complete QA appear.
 
4:49 AM
@KenWhite I'm not sure about that specific case. I'd suspect the person prepared the question edit and applied it immediately after undeleting. They should be able to edit the deleted answer, but, as far as I know, not the question until it's undeleted. Based on "Why am I allowed to edit my deleted answer but not question?", which links to this answer, it looks like it's been that way since 2013.
 
@Makyen Hmmm... Maybe my memory is failing me in my advanced years. :-) I'll keep an eye out to see if I can locate one of those posts. I know specifically who the user was, and that they used that method on a few occasions to make sure they had the first answer (and got the resulting upvotes from other users) to get quick rep - unfortunately (for me) and fortunately (for them) they are a prolific very high rep user where I can't isolate an example easily.
I wrote that trying to help that particular user, BTW, who seemed to be confused about how the site works. I was trying to save them some rep for the inappropriate post. Turns out (because they were answering a post that was closed as a dupe anyway) that it didn't do what I intended anyway. Turns out my effort would have been wasted anyway.
 
@KenWhite Hmmm... that sounds a bit sketchy on their part. If they're self-answering, then there's no reason to have not refined both the question and answer prior to posting them, as you can post them at exactly the same time (i.e. with the same button click).
@KenWhite Yeah, they made it a confusing situation, and clearly didn't understand how the site works. Hopefully they understand a bit better now. You were doing a good job of clarifying things for them, with just a minor misunderstanding on your part. My initial intent was really just to clarify that one point about not being able to edit self deleted questions while they are deleted.
 
5:09 AM
@Makyen: It was indeed sketchy on that user's part, but it happened (on more than one occasion). The same poster answered many questions that were low-hanging fruit to quicly gain a lot of rep; after they got that rep, they began closing the same sort of questions as unclear and downvoting others that answered them. Some users abuse the system. I've favored quality - if I didn't, I could have double the rep by not having DV'd answers that cost rep. :-)
@Makyen As always, I appreciate the input you've provided. I'll keep the info in mind for future refreence when posting pro tips. :-) I'm not taking your intent to be anything other than helpful.
@Makyen Should we clean up some of the comment clutter on that post related to the discussion we're having here?
 
@KenWhite Sigh Yeah, some people are just like that. It's unfortunate. I agree that it's better to favor quality. Rep is nice, but it's not worth compromising on what you believe is the right thing to do; not even close.
@KenWhite Yeah, we should clean those comments up. :-)
 
5:27 AM
@Makyen: I'll clean up a few things, including the pro tip post. You have some things unrelated that should stay, though - it's good advice for that poster and others.
@Makyen: i deleted what I could. You have a couple of replies to me that may be orphaned now, but the majority of what you posted is still good. Up to you now. :-)
 
@KenWhite Yeah, I was just reading through it. I agree that it shouldn't all go. I'll look through it again.
I left just the comments suggesting to the OP that they answer the dup-target question, and the one answering their questions about editing notifications. If the OP deletes their inquiry about editing notification, then my response to that can go too.
 
@Makyen I cleaned up a couple more - you covered answering a closed dupe, so I removed the You're going to have another problem comment I left. Looks pretty clean to me now. Your answer the dupe target instead was something I should have caught - thanks for picking up the dropped ball and running with it. :-) I think we're good now.
 
@KenWhite np. Thanks for your work on this too. I think we got it to a decent point. It also looks like the OP learned from the experience and has a better understanding of how Stack Overflow works, which is a really good thing.
 
5:44 AM
@Makyen Agreed. I think the overall result is pretty good. :-)
 
:-)
 
 
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Anyone that can shed a light as to why this is not a duplicate of arrayindexoutofboundsexception ?
 
9:17 AM
The difference is that in the first they used the iterator as array value and the second was iterating over the array boundaries. Both would generate the same error but the causses are not the same. Did you get a flag rejected?
I would flag as "Typo/No repro" rather than "Duplicate"
 
Ahh.. well. I assumed that the explanation in the comment (by me) would be sufficient to get that "bit" sorted. They're just trying to get fetch an array item from an index that doesn't exist.
My flag got disputed, not declined. So I was curious as to why the flag was considered completely off.
 
The answer for the duplicate target question should resolve the duplicate question. I don't say I am sure, but here it doesn't seem to be right to say there is a duplicate. Both questions have code that generated the same error message but they don't have the same origine/error in the code
 
9:34 AM
Fair enough :) Thank you :)
 
9:54 AM
yw :)
 
10:32 AM
Why not wait for Roomba to pick it up?
 
10:43 AM
To delete the target before it reopens, I guess
 
11:28 AM
@DalijaPrasnikar duplicate removed. target is now able to be deleted.
 
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2:14 PM
@Scratte Ultimately, a gold badge holder closed it as duplicate :)
 
2:59 PM
@Vega Life is so unfair. I'm going to have to create a Question on Meta to dispute my disputed flag now.
 
@Scratte You have my upvote already ;)
 
@Vega Lovely. I doubt it will counter the 200 downVotes though :) I think it will be better for me to let it go, as I get twitches in my right eye when I look at that accepted Answer, that ironically has the exact same problem as the Question.
 
I also, sadly, think that you cannot change anything to the actual situation. The flag went thru a decision before the badge holder get it hammered. It's wise to let it go :)
 
@Vega Thanks for keeping an eye on it, or however you noticed that it got closed :)
 
3:21 PM
@Scratte np :) I just kept one of my (four) eyes on it ;)
 
3:34 PM
@Vega You're one of those lucky ones that have an eye on every finger? :)
 
:D
 
 
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Morning all
Man ... sometimes democracy sucks ;) ... imbeciles shouldn't be allowed to upvote off-topic questions ... =D
 
Why do some folks see the need to add "Question as per title" and all variants thereof? Is it just padding for a question that would be rejected for being too short in length?
 
@tink You are free to vote on the question quality yourself, you know
 
5:09 PM
I know
thanks ;)
 
@halfer I hesitate which one is worse, that one or the one with a title "Hello, please help me"
 
Heh. All the favourites coming out today =}
 
@Vega Urgh, yes - I am on a campaign to try to reduce those
 
Then we are your assistants
 
I have read everything on stackoverflow and google.pls halp me.i dont know what to do. I have been banging my head for five hours :-(
 
5:12 PM
Hahaha
 
My favourite is I'm completely stuck up for three days, which is a lovely mistranslation.
 
lol
 
Ah, at least they succeed in something. I learned what it meant
 
:=)
 
@halfer Please halp. What does it mean?
 
5:17 PM
@Scratte The speaker is trying to say they have been trying to solve a problem for a certain period of time, but that it is too difficult for them. In English, one would say that one "is stuck" on a problem. But to be "stuck up" is to have an air of superiority, to be arrogant, or to be pompous. The phrases are very similar, but have totally different meanings.
 
@halfer Ahh.. I think I just don't see the "up" when I see those. When you mentioned it, I thought there may have been some obscure other google translate that would have been completely off :)
 
I think "stuck up" is a reference to someone who has their nose stuck up in the air, so they can look down their nose at others, which was a behaviour of "the well bred". I don't know if the phrase is specifically British, or whether other English speaking countries use it too.
I also see "I am struck" a lot, which is also nonsense, but it is so common I wonder if that word might end up changing its meaning.
 
I read those as "I'm stuck in a deep hole of programming despair. I can't find a solution on my own. I've reached only dead end(s). My head is hurting from banging it against the wall in this deep hole. It's making it harder to think. I can't stop. Please help."
 
In other words, "Now that you are aware of my predicament, you need to offer the solution quickly, otherwise I am holding you morally responsible for my head injuries".
Hmm :=/
The observation that hitting ones head with a wall makes thinking difficult is probably true, but maybe in the future I will just suggest that if they stop hitting their head, they might solve the problem on their own.
 
@halfer Kind of. There's no reason to add: Urgent. I need a lifeline. I can't figure it out on my own. Those questions have a way about them, that's it obvious anyway. It just makes them less likely to be helped. Especially with the added moral obligation to anyone who sees the post.
 
5:33 PM
@Scratte Oh yes, totally agree. I am the author of the "urgent begging" canonical on Meta.
 
@halfer I've been wanting to do that. But I can't. It's just not nice and could just spark a silly conflict. Some of them are desperate despite being clueless.
 
There are some kinds of conversational fluff that aren't just redundant, they're emotionally manipulative - they try to make the reader/volunteer feel guilty unless sufficient help is rendered.
 
@halfer I noticed what they usually "forget" to upvote the good answers. Sometimes it's just a trick. It's only manipulation. But it's hard to tell when you don't know people.
 
There is an interesting cultural discrepancy here - perhaps I see these things through the prism of Western/British individualism, and the speaker - who is telling me their problem is urgent for me to attend to - is used to a community rallying around a member in need of assistance. Perhaps this is on the basis that if everyone pays it forward, it is acceptable to put people under obligation.
 
@halfer 1122 posts!
 
5:38 PM
@Vega A suitable response here might be "ouch" :=(
 
@halfer I'm sure there's a culture aspect to this. There are different kinds of ways for every culture. What makes you heard in Berlin is not the same as in Ouagadougou.
 
Followed by "stuck up" - 1088
 
Ha, you beat me to it!
Was just looking at how many confessional posts we had.
Perhaps in my next question I will add "I have been arrogant and pompous for four hours" and see if it gets edited out :=)
 
heh
 
Did you know there is also a hybride "I am struck up"
 
5:45 PM
Ooh, nice
Perhaps they received an unfortunate wall/head injury, and it resulted in their nose pointing upwards, so they were both struck and stuck up.
 
6:07 PM
 
6:25 PM
@M-- - I'd think so (not that I'm any good w/ Java or android development) ... there's a "Question" part missing, kind of, they just dumped an error message, but it appears to be understandable anyway ...
 
M--
TY
 
6:59 PM
@Vega There's also "I am stack"
 
heh
 
@CodyGray I don't know if I can ask you about my CM escalation. I am thinking about asking on Meta who is downvoting me, but I am afraid it won't help. I feel like someone is playing a psychological game with me. Should I keep on waiting or was it declined?
 
Me too stukked in no understand the wot helpening here?? Pleez halp.
 
is this Q off-topic? (requests a plugin)
 
@Dharman - got a "fan"? The interwebs are a weird place :( ... I've had the odd bout of slammings. Not just on SO. Some people just can't handle constructive criticism and response vengefully ... :'(
 
7:07 PM
@AdrianMole Ultimately we are making fun of people who are learning English and coding.
 
Me speek english too good by now, so halp in with the coding can?
 
@Dharman - I've seen many a native speaker write gibberish.
 
@tink It's mind-boggling someone would spend few weeks downvoting me each day. What have I done to deserve it?
 
@AdrianMole go away n00b. Closed as too broad
 
Dunno man ... but it does happen. It's not you, it's them!
 
7:09 PM
@Dharman you have commented in one of their (NAA/off-topic/bad) posts?
 
We should have a use with called Stanley Unwin.
 
@double-beep Either that or I removed "hope it helps" from one of their answers.
 
Heh
Man it's pouring out of buckets ... I so wanted to go running, but that would be more like a swim :(
 
@tink Where? Here it is still clear sky.
Relatively speaking for a place where it rains 99% of the year
 
NZ =} ... south coast of the North Island
 
7:14 PM
@tink Yeah, that's a bit of a way from where I live.
 
Heh
 
... and everywhere else
 
It's a fair way from where almost everyone lives ;}
Exactly
 
except Samwise Gamgee
 
@double-beep I would say it is off-topic. If it was fresh with no answers, I would remove the first question, but now it would invalidate answers.
 
 
8:10 PM
@SmokeDetector Only a single post. Contains affiliation. It's an answer to the question. Currently doesn't match SPAM criteria
 
@Dharman - how is "this is how our commercial product does it" an answer?
 
@tink The question is so broad that it kinda does answer it.
 
heh
 
8:24 PM
Hmmm ... what to do with this one ? ;/
 
@tink Nothing? It's closed and will roomba
 
Heh. But he insists that the question is valid (and I do disagree with the "official" closure reason; trying to make a CUDA environment going IMHO is on-topic).
 
@tink Let them escalate on Meta. Personally I wouldn't vote on this one, but I also don't see any reason to reopen. It's just barely on topic.
 
Sound advice. Cheers.
 
Should this post be closed? stackoverflow.com/q/59040208/1839439 It was brought up in SOBotics, but we see no reason to close it.
 
8:45 PM
Sorry, I wouldn't know. What reason was suggested there?
 
Opinion-Based?
 
Too-broad/opinion-based
 
... but, sometimes, a question that looks "opinion-based" (and is, to a degree) can still be very useful.
 
That would have been my guess @AdrianMole, but if it's an exam question there should be one correct answer, no?
 
 
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10:05 PM
Just out of curiosity, @Dharman, why is that one "No Roomba?" (Downvoted, no answer.)
 
@AdrianMole It was at +2/-2 when I voted.
 
wasn't downvoted before
 
OK - I forgot to check the vote tallies.
 
@AdrianMole Are you using Makyen's Roomba script?
 
Someone has ZeroBrain customized background styles?
I need a dark interface
 
10:18 PM
Do you mean ZeroBrane? Because a lot of people have zero brain...
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...but not with customized styles, it's more the default ones.
 
@Scratte Not yet - I'll give it a try, though. Ta.
 
@AdrianMole I have a link, when you want to try it out. I find it to be very nice.
 
@Dharman Indeed
I mean, I'd like a dark mode for this IDE. It's more comfortable
 
10:28 PM
There is a way to adjust the default mode but with more attempts to change the style
If someone tried this before it would be effortlessly, just to copy the lua file to the destination
@Dharman why you just said that, "Because a lot of people have zero brain..." lol
 
@Student404Mus It was a joke. It wasn't directed at any one in specific. Just a play on words.
 
Believe me, I thought it is written Brain instead of Brane
So thanks for this remark
 
@Student404Mus I tried searching for "zerobrane dark customized style". The first link seems to be to their official website with further links to github.
 
Yes, I see
that's why I requested from somebody here to share his own customized style
Ok, It doesn't matter. I'll check for it later
 
10:45 PM
@Nkosi just one more vote needed... thanks all...
 
11:18 PM
That was a nice run ... the rain stopped, heat and humidity gone ... trails were quite muddy and slippery, but that's part of the fun, right? :D
 

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