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12:24 AM
@AdrianMole What's happening tomorrow?
 
12:36 AM
Today, you mean. Nothing special (for you - dunno). For me - I get to show my boss what I've been doing for the past few months.
The wish was a general one.
... somehow, I don't think, "but I have over 400 accepted answers, and 5,000 rep. on Stack Overflow" will impress him that much - if my image acquisition software crashes his rig.
 
12:57 AM
That's a poor quality question from Smokey, but not spam.
How do I get to talk to Smokey (like "sd fp" and stuff) - do I need to apply for 'privileges' (and read the help texts)?
 
@AdrianMole Maybe you take solace in the fact that others are impressed. I have about 65 answers, no growing reputation and I just got a Tenacious badge :D
 
"Tenacious" is a good badge! Wait until you get "Unsung Hero!" that's a rare one.
 
@AdrianMole There are some documents you need to read yes. Someone was nice to give them here some time ago. One is training the other is special for smokey
As far as I understand, they only want people who know what they're doing to interact with Mr.Smokey :)
 
Guess I'm "ruled out" then :)
 
@AdrianMole I wasn't even going for the "Tenacious" badge :D It'll be a sad day if I get the "Unsung Hero". It just means I'm answering Questions no one ever reads.
 
1:11 AM
I can't really remember what it was I was doing, the last time I knew what I was doing.
Not at all - just means you gave the asker a good answer but they 'forgot' to upvote you.
 
@AdrianMole I think "forgot" may be going for the "Too Broad" definition..
 
... it's my most coveted badge, as it happens ... until I get the Gold Reviewer badge for the "Help & Improvement" queue (maybe 20 years from now, at the current rate).
 
For me, I think the "Nice Answer" or "Self-Learner" would be nice. I just need to learn to write more general Questions.
 
@AdrianMole if you are in a low traffic tag, most users will have <15 rep, so you'll get (if you get it) a green check mark. Those users cannot upvote, to compensate, you get the unsung hero badge
 
@Vickel High traffic,as it happens - I was just in the habit of answering a lot of "homework" questions from new users. No big deal - and I got the badge.
 
1:21 AM
@AdrianMole congrats
 
I do so less now (or, at least, more subtly).
 
anyway that what it is for... <15rep users can't upvote
 
@Vickel But a lot of those users don't have an "Informed" badge. I noticed a correlation between the missing badge and the missing green check. So if it's a homework Question that no one else will ever benefit from.. it's hardly worth the debugging help.
 
@Scratte I try to avoid answering those, most often close vote or flag as duplicate
 
PS: While we're on the "homework" issue, check out this answer - absolutely brilliant, and the way I'd like to think I would respond (I'm only involved insofar as I made a comment or two).
 
1:28 AM
@AdrianMole Yes. I tried that a couple of times, but was much less successful
 
@Scratte You've posted some very good answers! Keep doing so, and your rep. will come in shovel-fulls (as will badges).
 
@AdrianMole Thank you :) I try to meet the level of the person that asks while not compromising the structure of an acceptable answer. Sometimes I do fiddle with it for hours to make it as simple/compact as possible.
I see you do the same. Precise and easy to understand :)
 
1:49 AM
“Please do not post code! Advice only!” at stackoverflow.com/questions/60272360/… :) gotta love that
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@sideshowbarker LOL ... please post pictures of lolcats!
 
 
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6:43 AM
I suspect this question off-site resource request looking at first line. Not sure though; rest of the question is fine. Please review.
 
6:54 AM
 
 
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8:14 AM
Don't know why that is not converted to tab...
Same copy-paste worked above. Page refresh does not help.
 
strange
I think i know why, multiple line messages don't allow this kind of formatting @AmitJoshi
 
Ohh.. I will take care next time.
 
8:26 AM
@AmitJoshi This is not currently a question which can be delete-voted. Feel free to re-request when it's possible to delete-vote.
Questions can be delete-voted if the question has been closed for > 2 days, or if the question score is less than -2.
 
devil's advocate here; people searching for "ture" will be able to find that question. Any chance it's a mistake that affects more than one person?
 
@JohnDvorak I assume Google will find you any common misspellings
Not sure if we need to maintain that list in the form of posts
 
8:44 AM
Google didn't fix "ture" for me though, though it did fix "faluse"
 
I am not sure it wasn't intentional. "Too good to be true" ?
 
9:13 AM
anyone online? Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but can someone retract my proposed edit? I realised I proposed an incorrect edit
 
@tabdiukov You have 5 pending edits, there's no way for us to know which one you're refering to, either way is there any reason not to just let it get handled by the review queue? (as a side not, please remove thanks from posts, rather than capitalising it and sticking it on a new line).
 
> remove thanks from posts, rather than capitalising it and sticking it on a new line
Sure, it's just sometimes I'd remove "Thanks" and have my edit rejected
@NickA This edit is incorrect: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/25384061 (mistakenly thought it's about debugging and C++)
 
It's not worth the edit if it's the only thing to do, but it should be done if it's a part of a larger edit
 
@tabdiukov As far as I know, there's no way for an edit suggestion to be retracted. You can change what is suggested by editing the post again. I'm unsure if submitting a re-edit which results in exactly the same text as the post was prior to the edit will result in the edit being retracted. The only thing we can do is reject the edit.
 
rip :)
 
9:41 AM
@Adriaan Only this one assuming i know what i'm doing
 
@Vega this doesn't work as soon as there's either more than one answer, or in case of a single answer that has an upvote (even -10/+1). Thus: self-deleting a question works only if there are no answers, or only 1 without any upvotes. (And not accepted, but OP can of course unaccept themselves)
Or yea, what the mod says :P
 
@Georgy What's low quality about it? It looks like a good signpost. Is there anything misleading, harmful or any indication that it will lead people away from finding the target?
 
10:02 AM
@Adriaan Noted, thank you!
 
nvm, it is just upvoted ^^
 
10:25 AM
@Dharman Well... Feel free to disagree! But, in my opinion, the question is not very clear and doesn't add any value to the ones previously asked.
 
@Georgy I am all for deleting stuff, but I really think there's much worse duplicates that need deleting. This one maybe doesn't add anything new, but is is a nicely written question, which would direct more traffic to the target. It would be a different thing if the answers were wrong.
 
@Makyen Ok I will. By the way; does that matter if question (or answers) are upvoted till that time? How will it affect deletion process?
 
@Dharman May I disagree on 'nicely' part? There are 3 short phrases. Even the orthography is not respected
 
I am looking at it through the lens of PHP posts. In PHP world that would be an outstanding question.
 
@Makyen That's not quite accurate. The second part should have been "closed and a score < -2". Open questions can't be delete-voted. It wasn't my intent to imply that they could be, but my earlier message wasn't clear.
@AmitJoshi No, it doesn't matter. The number of delete-votes required to delete will depend on the Q&A scores, the number of views, etc. The number of delete-votes required will be between 3 – 10.
 
10:40 AM
@Dharman yeah, no, we don't need these dupes
 
@Dharman :o That's sad
 
people not googling and rep farmers answering everything is no reason to allow these to stick around
 
@Dharman not in my books :p (if I followed the q trail properly)
 
speaking of which
 
11:18 AM
@AndrasDeak Again, we might have conflicting views here. I don't mind the duplicates as long as they suggest the correct solution. In fact I would want more good duplicates to drown the bad ones, which I can't remove. I don't see anything wrong with providing the same answer over and over again (I do it in mysqli). If it means that someone will find one of my good answers rather than the thousands of bad ones I consider it a win.
Don't delete just to delete, have a very good reason to delete justifying why this particular Q&A is not going to be helpful to future visitors.
 
@Dharman yeah, we do
This ploriferation of redundant mediocrity is (one of) the death(s) of SO
But I can agree to disagree
 
@Dharman what would be the point of dupes if we provide the same answers to the posts? o.O
 
@treyBake As I said, drowning the bad stuff in my good answers.
 
@Dharman but if they were just closed and linked to dupe, there is no bad stuff, or as much
 
In @Dharman's defence I'd say that without redundancy most of the answers on SO are covered in manuals. It would be sad to see every question go just because it's been covered somewhere else.
 
11:25 AM
I don't have gold badge and the ones that do don't close all the questions. Many of them get answered either way. If I see a bad answer I might answer it just to provide a better alternative.
 
I guess that works tbf.. I just prefer downvoting the bad content and closing the q.. I probably won't ever hit gold in php xD
 
Of course when it gets closed it's fine. If the duplicate has only bad answers then nothing is lost when deleting, but when it has good answers why delete it? There's a proper answer and a link an even better post, so the it's only positives and no negatives. If you do it only to hurt other users that's an abuse of your privileges.
 
"If you do it only to hurt other users" That's a helluva conclusion to jump to
 
if the answers are more or less the same, I see no benefit in it being kept - for me, all dupes should go to one place. Any answers not there that could be applicable should be added as new answers on the dupe target rather than the dupe... but I guess that has an effect on searchability?
 
@Scratte you can't use third-party dupes. Ideally all content should be on SO exactly once
@Dharman we maintain a high signal-to-noise ratio on the site. Don't you think that dozens of legit dupes to common problems make it harder to find solutions to less common problems? Whenever I'm googling for some programming problem (which usually isn't trivial) I have to wade through pages of "how can I do [similar but unrelated perfectly straightforward thing]?". That's partly the consequence of enabling umpteenth dupe on the principle of "it doesn't harm anyone".
 
11:35 AM
@AndrasDeak That would mean that there should be only a handful of questions in each tag. Yet, in there's 27k questions. Riddle me that.
@AndrasDeak No, if anything it makes it easier
 
@Dharman that's the difference between "ideally" and "in practice"...
and no, there are more than a handful of on-topic problems in a language
@Dharman OK
 
@AndrasDeak I think the waters are divided on that one. Some people learn with examples, some need to see different perspective, some need to see almost identical explanations. this answer explains it
 
Look I google a an error message in a tag I am SME. Google gives me 5 SO questions. None of them have good answers. What do I do? I answer them. Now the next person who googles the same thing and opens any one of them will see one of my good answers. It makes it easier to find the stuff you are supposed to find
 
@Scratte yes, and SO is not here to teach people. It's here to gather knowledge. I think this explains most of our disagreement.
 
@AndrasDeak What good is all the knowledge if you can't learn from it?
 
11:41 AM
@AndrasDeak I think that finding a solution to a problem is learning. During study I search on things that are unclear and I usually end up here. This site is not just for people with a production issue that needs a quick answer.
 
@Dharman If you can't learn from knowledge you need to learn to learn first. Rather than trying to write a new facebook based on three python tutorials on youtube (before learning the language).
I never said that the knowledge repository in my ideal SO can't be structured and well-explained. It just shouldn't be redundant.
The fact that a lot of power-users expect no real effort from askers is what has led to these high expectations of having to teach people who don't want to learn on their own. This is terrible for the site, and explains a large part of the low-quality Programming 101 crap on the front page.
 
I also find it useful that there are multiple questions on the same topic. The difference in questions also makes it easier to grasp or to apply to a similar problem.
 
Anyway, I'm pretty sure most of us have already discussed this ad nauseam here and elsewhere. Not much point in doing it once more.
as I said I'm OK with disagreeing
 
 
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Morning
 
You mean to say that the shadow just lifted where you're at on this spring driven flat earth?
 
1:23 PM
No. I mean to say that the rotation of our spherical earth has reached a point where the body of the earth is no longer in between me and the sun
 
Well... I suppose it's still better to link timekeeping to your local geographical features than to just a random biological process that has approximately the right period in optimal circumstances.
 
@JohnDvorak I agree, having the morning shift from 7am on a weekday to 3pm at the weekend is extremely inconvenient
 
:) I assume my joke might have come off as "WHAT?!? Maybe they're serious ?!?"
 
I had to laugh because I was just making fun of flat earthers yesterday.
 
There's no statement so ludicrous that people won't think you're being serious with it. Poe's law.
 
1:28 PM
@Scratte Honestly I'm of the belief that flat earthers don't actually exist, and they're all just in on some big joke that I'm not a part of
 
@NickA Same here... But at the same time I believe that there are people stupid enough to believe in that joke.
 
@NickA That seems a bit strange in a way that it correlates nicely with the flat-earth's belief :)
 
@Dharman I like to believe people aren't that stupid but... I've been wrong before
 
@NickA I hope you're right. Then I saw a video on youtube starting "Hi, I'm Darryl, and I'm a realist, also known as a flat earther.." Then he proceeds to bring a level on an airplane to prove his point :D
 
@Scratte That's just another level of stupidity.
 
1:41 PM
I've run into people thinking that a fly, flying in a car isn't doing the speed of the car plus the speed they are flying because a fly can't fly 70mph (yes, freedom units used)
They can't grasp that drag only works when the air your are in is not moving with you
 
But can the car really move at 19 miles per second? (Earth's orbital speed.)
 
@AdrianMole Yes, even faster. There's a Tesla speeding way faster than any of the cars on the surface.
 
@AdrianMole A bugatti can ;)
 
@NathanOliver Well.. How is it really doing 70+? I'd assume it's doing whatever speed relative to the car. Else you could argue that when I take a walk I'm doing whatever velocity the planet is doing.
 
@Scratte Depends on the reference frame. From outside the car I would say the fly is doing 70, otherwise it would be splat on the rear window.
 
1:46 PM
If the car is stationery, but I am walking away from it at 19 miles per second, is it the same as the car moving away from me at 19 miles/s?
 
Just been reading up on Charcoal and Smokey 'privileges' and came across this: "we want to make sure you’re sane!" Is that strictly enforced? :-)
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@Dharman Only on days ending in a y
 
@NathanOliver Sure.. but as @Dharman also suggested the fly is also doing 70 by just sitting on the window in a stationary car, if I'm going past it :)
 
Speed is all relative. There is no absolute frame-of-reference.
 
@Scratte Yes, even a dead fly on the front window.
 
1:49 PM
What is the car's speed relative to Vega? (The star, I mean, not the SOCVR participant!)
 
@AdrianMole Yes, you need to present a certificate stating that you do not have Donkey Brains
 
I have two certificates: One says I'm schizophrenic, and the other one says I'm not.
 
@AdrianMole It feels like there's an absolute frame-of-reference when you hit the ground though.
 
I should get a painting with const int& answer = 42; on it so I can have the ultimate frame of reference.
 
@NathanOliver Only if you actually get it framed
Otherwise it's just a canvas of reference
 
1:54 PM
lol
 
@Nathan How's your Base-13 mathematics?
 
Not bad. Once you learn your ABC's it makes it easier ;)
 
@AdrianMole If I only had 13 fingers...
 
But I'm sure you know about the "Ultimate Question" (to which the answer is "Forty-Two"). What is 9 x 5? ... 42
 
Was the ultimate question ever figured out? I remember trying to read pt2 of the series and the opening chapters weren't as gripping as the first book
 
2:11 PM
Arthur & Ford got the 'cavemen' on primitive Earth to draw Scrabble pieces out of a bag, and they formed the words: "What do you get if you multiply nine by five?"
 
@RiggsFolly What's the typo?
 
I think it might be 9*6
 
@Das_Geek Oops - there goes my "Proof of Sanity!"
 
ahaha love the humour of it xD feels like there's a missed joke of float point accuracy somewhere.. though, I'm sure there's a reason for the question that I can't see :p
 
42 also means yes for many Chinese people.
 
2:18 PM
huh, didn't know that :) All I know is 42 = * (ref) :p
 
wait, that was "write a query to..."
 
4:12 PM
if only they didn't make it so obvious eye roll
 
5:20 PM
@Dharman Not an SME but I rejected. It should be a comment or a new answer, not an edit
 
@NathanOliver ooops. Learnt something new yet again.
 
It's not a good day until you have learned something. So at least now you're having a good day ;)
 
@Dharman I also rejected. Same reasoning.
 
Heh. I wouldn't go that far ... I'll have to go to work in a minute ;)
 
@tink It's now on you. The edit got rejected
 
5:23 PM
I'd say 90% of code changes are bad edits. Either they want to fix something or "do it better" neither of which is appropriate for edits
 
The PIL library has no documentation on PyPi, and I didn't feel like downloading the library to find out how to use it, as it hasn't been updated since 2006 and is only compatible with Python <=2.6, which makes learning about a dead end. Thus, I didn't feel like taking the effort to see if the edit actually fixed things, or made them worse.
Either way, it should have been a comment or a new answer.
@Makyen However, it looks like my reject didn't matter, as it had already been rejected by two users and had an "Edit" review action. Interesting.
@RiggsFolly Ahhh... "Needs Details Or Clarity (No Roomba: reopen vote)" doesn't really look like a reason to reopen a question.
 
@Makyen It's the standard reason from your script.
 
@Dharman I'm not surprised. Those pick up the reasons for closing and/or delete-voting. The reason field isn't cleared when you change the request type, under the assumption that the user may have edited it, or that some of the text might be usable. Reopen votes have no reason associated with them, so there's nothing for the script to pick up.
Admittedly, the script could, potentially, provide a more accurate reason for reopen-pls, if the user hasn't yet edited the request reason. The intent is that you will edit the request reason to be why you are making the specific request which you're posting. The default reasons are intended to have human oversight.
 
5:44 PM
> 86% / 91% of flags created on SO are created by users who had visited MSO/MSE in the past 30/60 days
 
Thought, "visited MSx" includes those who just came to recheck the flagging rules
 
@Makyen Why does roomba forecaster say this is not closed? stackoverflow.com/questions/60271930/…
Is there some cache?
 
@Dharman I'm not sure what you're seeing. It shows me that it's closed and will Roomba in 10 days. It's possible that the SE API hadn't yet been updated when it fetched the data for you.
 
ahh ok, glitch in the matrix
 
6:14 PM
!! /blame
!!/blame
 
@AdrianMole It's Steve's fault.
 
@AdrianMole As with many things in SOCVR, I suggest you read the FAQ. For this issue, you'll probably want to read the section on SmokeDetector.
 
Speaking of the script - the 'cv-pls' link seems to be broken for me ... hovering on it gives me a javascript: void(0) =}
 
@tink Which version of the script (e.g. alpha or release/ version number)? What OS/browser/userscript manager? Is it on all questions? answers? a specific question/answer?
 
Seems right: your cv-pls goes into the void ...
 
6:29 PM
your void is warranty
 
// @version 1.6.11 ... chrome on linux, 80.0.3987.100, and seems to be for all questions .
using violent monkey
 
Ah, you have the strike version I see myself out
 
@tink While it should work under those conditions, given that you aren't using Greasemonkey on Firefox, I'd suggest using the alpha version.
 
OK, I'll give that a shot, ta
 
@Makyen - Just doing a bit of 'doodling' to see how and where things work. Apparently, if nobody has made a 'recent' comment, "Steve" gets the blame.
 
6:35 PM
Same behaviour ... "close" works, "cv-pls" doesn't
 
@AdrianMole I'm not really understanding what you're saying.
 
Sorry, dodgy typo in that last post.
 
7:01 PM
@tink Interesting. It looks like Violentmonkey on Chrome, but not Firefox, does something that breaks jQuery 2.1.4, but not jQuery 3.4.1. Still looking.
 
I see the "javascript:void(0)" text (bottom left of browser window) on hovering - but clicking brings up the menu and that looks OK. I haven't found a post to do a full cv-pls on yet, though.
OK - it works.
 
@AdrianMole that is by design. It is to prevent that an anchor link actually navigates on clicking.
 
Cheers @Makyen, just made the same observation (installed violentmonkey and 1.6.11 on FF73.0 and it "just works"™
 
All SOCVR user scripts work. Some expose undiscovered features now and then.
 
7:28 PM
@tink Did this combination previously work? Violentmonkey was updated on 2020-02-13, so I'm interested in if it was functional prior to that.
The overall issue appears to be a conflict between the jQuery which is loaded for the userscript and what's in the page. In theory, this shouldn't happen, because they should be in different contexts, due to the options selected in the script (at least per GM and TM docs, which VM was, in theory, compatible with), but clearly that's not the case at this point. I'll need to investigate the best way to resolve this.
 
7:42 PM
@Makyen yah, it used to work; not sure when I last successfully used it, it is not something I do too often. But there were also quite a few chrome updates since I last checked.
 
Can anyone tell what language is that? stackoverflow.com/q/1517026/1839439
 
Looks like Java, but then again "bool" isn't a return type.
 
Maybe C#, it also looks like Java
 
There's also no Int32 type in Java..
 
It could certainly pass as C#, but that doesn't mean that it is.
... but the answers won't parse as C#! More like Java?
... PseudoCode++09?
 
7:53 PM
I don't know. I give up. I VTC
 
@Dharman DO Qs with the "algorithm" tag have to have a specific programming language?
 
I think you're right about C#. It also has a "Substring" capital S on String
I find the documentation on Int32 somewhat confusing though "You can declare an Int32 variable and assign it a literal integer value that is within the range of the Int32 data type. The following example declares two Int32 variables and assigns them values in this way.".. then the example goes on to using: int docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/…
 
But in C# "isNumeric()" would be "IsNumeric()". Perhaps it's J# - does that still get used?
 
@AdrianMole No, they don't. I retracted my vote.
 
It's even possible that this code doesn't compile in whatever language it's suppose to be. Some times people don't check before posting.
 
There's at least one answer in PHP and one in JavaScript (both explicitly stated).
 
This is what made me retract my vote. The question used some kind of pseudocode it seems and the answers are from different languages.
So it seems the question was not about improving that particular function, but about improving the logic.
 
8:20 PM
hehe
 
M--
@AdrianMole read your discussion with @Dharman I didn't vote based on not specifying a language ;)
 
8:43 PM
@Dharman C#, with bad capitalization.
Hmm. Started reading the transcript, but...too long.
 
Yeah, you've been away for few days.
 
@Dharman Weekend + holiday in the US. Decided to take some time to...stop doing.
 
Does the answer on this question mean "can no longer be reproduced"? stackoverflow.com/q/60235183/2675154
 
Probably yes. Need a mod though because of the bounty.
 
8:56 PM
I’m not sure what it means. That is outside of my expertise, and I’m unable to make sense of the answer. I don’t know if someone more familiar with the subject could improve that answer to make it more generally useful to address a common point of confusion. Either way, I’m not especially inclined to refund a bounty because they’ve solved their own problem, though.
 
I"d vote unclear if I could
 
Lol. Do you guys know what "eye views" are?
 
some new apple product perhaps
 
The Department of Redundancy Department hereby proclaims that, going forward, in the future, things one views with their eyes must henceforth be known and referred to as “eye views”.
I didn’t have the heart to ask what we should call things that one hears. “Ear hears?”
 
dbc
9:08 PM
I just noticed an account that posted 5 lightly-rewritten spam posts in about half an hour. I flagged the first four as spam; was it reasonable to mod-flag the fifth complaining about the number of spam posts from the account?
 
It might be unneeded but can't see it being declined and it's nice to have a fail safe in case the account hasn't already been nuked
 
@dbc if those 4 got removed while red flagged there is not much more a mod can do except nuke the account.
 
@dbc The custom flag is a good idea. It isn’t always obvious to mods that there is a larger pattern to the spam, as we handle each one in isolation. Our eye views are limited.
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dbc
The thing is that each specific post might barely be considered an answer. They all look something like, An easier solution may be to use an XXX modal window. Take a look at XXX.com. I just migrated a clients 84 window desktop application to the web with XXX. Windows can be displayed as tabbed, cascade or stacked by user selection. Only when looking at all 5 is the spamminess unquestionable.
 
@dbc I have just seen that post, but it was only a single post, so I let it go and didn't flag.
It definitely looked like spam
 
dbc
9:15 PM
So in conclusion a mod-flag for 1 of the 5 was the way to go.
 
Is this on-topic? I see it in my feed for the third time. stackoverflow.com/q/60284934/1839439
 
The trade off here is the following: On the one hand, custom moderator flags are more difficult to handle and aren’t sorted/prioritized, so when it’s glaringly obvious what the problems are with the post, we’d prefer you use a standard flag.
On the other hand, we handle flags quickly and may not have all the context or relevant expertise you have, so if there’s more information that you can provide us to make our decision easier, we welcome it. That means, of course, you need to raise a custom flag.
 
@dbc can you link me to a deleted spam post?
For smokey to learn.
 
None of dbc’s spam flags were handled yet
 
oh
 
9:22 PM
Does Smokey even have enough rep to see deleted posts @rene?
Well that answers my question
 
No, but I can
 
I’m responding to pings; too busy to handle flags. Also on mobile, so can’t see full context as easily.
 
No, but the link can be watched
 
Fair
 
9:27 PM
@Das_Geek SD only accesses posts through the SE API, which provides almost no information about deleted posts.
 
@Makyen Gotcha. Even to those who are authenticated as users with enough rep?
 
Fun day today. Had emails start failing from a test webserver; our security team decided to mark emails with our domain and TLD as phishing attempts and block them and said "oh you have to replace the organization.org part with our local domain (org.local) to make it work"
 
@Das_Geek Yes, even if authenticated.
 
:/
 
I'm like "you try sending an email from <user>@org.local or <user>.org.local and see how your application likes that"
finally a little after 4PM, "OK try it now" works as it used to
 
9:30 PM
@TylerH At least they did switch it back.
 
I swear, our security team would declare that providing healthcare is an unacceptable security risk if we let them.
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Humans are a security risk. They should be forbidden from using the software.
 
My company was recently merged into a larger one, one that previously didn't have a large dev presence outside of air-gapped networks. IT department recently blocked GitLab on the corporate network because they didn't know what it was
 
(Why is a web server sending emails?)
 
9:35 PM
Good, good. I was hoping my posting links to Dilbert cartoons would catch on.
 
@CodyGray the web server itself is not technically sending any, but it is generating it as the source, and sending it through our mailrelay server
 
@CodyGray You mean the one time you posted?
 
I don't know the particulars of how email exchange rules are set up on the mailrelay server, e.g. if it considers "any email not from mailrelay" to be external or something
@Das_Geek Our company has GitHub blocked under the "freeware/shareware" blanket, though we have a security group with our developers in it that has access
 
Is this spam: stackoverflow.com/a/60289797/10871073 ?? (Name looks well dodgy and the link is to a QR code image - and I don't have a reader handy.)
 
9:40 PM
@TylerH Sorry, I should have clarified: the GitLab instance hosted on the recently-merged company's intranet
Blocked :D
 
@AdrianMole Yep, looks like badly formatted spam
@Das_Geek oh, yikes
hopefully that was quickly rectified
 
Two weeks
Couldn't push
:D
 
@Das_Geek I do occasionally post in places other than here...
 
@CodyGray Meta doesn't count :P
I wasn't, of course, posting that in complete seriousness. I'll just have to go hunting for the Dilbert strips you found worthy of sharing
 
9:43 PM
@dbc okay, thanks. @Das_Geek already made sure the Smoke Detector will find those posts if they try to post again.
 
@Das_Geek This is one of my favorites, on account of me living it every day.
 
@CodyGray "...a high percentage (50+%) of curation/moderation actions on Stack Overflow come from users who at least occasionally visit MSO or MSE..." Wow!
 
@AdrianMole Surprising to me that it’s so low
 
There is a "+" after the "50," so...
 
I would have expected “+80%”, though
You guys all get out and post on Meta, mmkay?
 
9:53 PM
Yeah, but 50% is a 'political' 80%?
 
@CodyGray Yeah, I read that earlier. Loved it. Interesting conclusions aside, the post's data was fascinating. Scratching the itch Shog's posts used to
 
@AdrianMole Haha. Ugh.
 
@AdrianMole Depends on county borders
 
@Das_Geek I care less about the raw data than about the conclusions. Even if that means I have to surrender my nerd card.
I’ve never been a stats nerd anyway. Secretly, numbers frighten me.
 
@CodyGray Well the conclusions are what drive decisions, so they definitely matter. I just love pretty graphs :D
 
10:39 PM
 
Wow - I just noticed I've earned 920 reputation points today! :-)
 
Ooh, nice work :=)
 
Congrats -- but good luck trying to spend it anywhere
 
10:56 PM
... split between 10 different SE sites, of course!
 
11:24 PM
@AdrianMole I like that you've done in a single day what took me more than a month :)
 
Not real rep, though - just sign up to any other SE site and you'll get 100 rep on that site. The first time, you get it on SO, also: Association Bonus.
 
@AdrianMole Oh. Those feels like cheating. Not happy about those :(
 
It's not cheating at all! It's given on the 'new' site so you get the 'low level' privileges (you'll start off with 101 rep, so you can comment, up-vote, chat, flag, etc.). You've 'earned' those rights on one site, so you're trusted with them on the new one.
 
@AdrianMole: The first time you also get the extra 100 on your primary account where you already have those privileges. I think that's the topic of the post you linked to :)
 
If you're primary site is SO then, yes, you'll get +100 here ... whatever new privileges that may give you. If you're on 901, you'll get the "1000" stuff (see up/down vote counts is useful).
When I'm on the MSE site (only 850 rep.) I often forget that I can't see these .
 
11:42 PM
I thought it's "any site where you reach the rep threshold"
 
@Scratte You can see all the sites on which you don't have an account with this SEDE query. Depending on how many accounts you already have, you could get over 17,000 rep in one day from association bonuses.
 
Did fonts just get smaller? On MSO, it looks like user names and question titles are now at least one size smaller on the "Questions" page.
 
You just need bigger glasses.
 
@Makyen Thanks :) It seems a bit silly to create accounts just for reputation though.
 
@CodyGray do you know if any of the Meta SE mods use the chats over here?
 
11:52 PM
@LittleBowsette They don't, really. Why?
 
Actually, I created them via "Smokey" links to spam posts - you get sent to the site and are asked to "Confirm the new account." When you do (and link it to your primary), you can then raise flags (for spam, etc.) ... and that helps everyone.
 
@Scratte True. That query has mostly been used by Charcoal members to create accounts with the intent of flagging spam/R/A posts.
 
I wanted to communicate with them directly because I can't reach them with the contact us link
 
@AdrianMole Are you feeling paranoid today? :)
 
@LittleBowsette The "contact us" link is not meant to reach moderators. Its purpose is to allow you to send a message to Stack Exchange employees, who can overrule community moderators if they disagree with their decision.
 
11:55 PM
@AdrianMole, just be glad that @CodyGray didn't notice the "if you're primary site ... " =D
 
The "contact us" link is your only recourse for protesting a suspension.
 
I noticed it about 30s too late to edit.
 
heh. Don't you hate it when that happens ;)
 
@Scratte I always feel paranoid - but there's a very good reason for that! ;(
 
i have tried but even after a few weeks nothing changes not even a notice that they reviewed the appeal
 

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