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user10957435
12:35 AM
@Dharman I would say close it as unclear (like all non-English posts), then vote to delete it.
 
user10957435
@CodyGray would probably know if a mod flag is appropriate for those types of things, but I would guess they might want to know.
 
@Chipster Yes, but this is my concern that my vote will not close it alone. I need two more people and it might never make it through the queue before my vote expires.
 
user10957435
@Dharman Got you. I see what you mean now.
 
user10957435
If it meets the activity requirements for the room, you can always cv-pls, and that will at least bring some attention to it. I'm not an expert on whether delete-pls would be okay in this situation, though. I'm not 10k yet :D.
 
1:55 AM
I’m a bit surprised at the mass-deletion of answers by a moderator at stackoverflow.com/questions/20035101/…
I can’t recall ever seeing a moderator do any similar mass-deletion on a scale like that
one of the answers that was deleted had 575 upvotes…
(full disclosure: among the answers deleted was one I wrote, though it only had 10 upvotes and anyway I agree with the mod that it didn’t really belong there)
the moderator added a note saying, *“ This question is about why Postman is not subject to CORS restrictions in the same way an XmlHTTPRequest is. This question is not about how to fix a "No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin'..." error.” — which yeah, that’s true. But of course it’s really command that a question asks about a particular problem but the OP is actually not describing the problem they actually want to solve.
…but then the answer or answers do actually give solutions to the real problem
Or, relatedly, people doing a search come across the question in their results and then find there the answer they were looking for, even though that answer might not be a solution to the specific problem in the original question
anyway, end of my musing about that
 
2:10 AM
@Makyen I even had flagged that question with a red flag as abusive before the edit, because they tried to trespass the rules
@sideshowbarker I think behind this action was the also idea that other cases deserve their own question/answers
 
@Vega yeah, I personally don’t really disagree at all with the assessment. But I can imagine others might not agree. So, what surprises me a bit in the case is just the scale of the deletions, and the unilateral decision.
but also it’s not clear to me those deletions are the best thing for actual end users looking for help
It doesn’t seem like any of those high-upvoted answers were absolutely off-topic as far as general guidelines go
If somebody were to edit the question to add even just a few more words like “How do I fix this so that my frontend code can access the response?”, all those answers would then clearly be answers to the question.
anyway, I don’t feel very strongly about it. I just seemed surprising to me — I had never personally seen a moderator do something like that on that kind of scale before
 
2:34 AM
@sideshowbarker The problem with that "answer" is that it's a hack designed to defeat a necessary security protocol. I'm actually glad it's gone
 
@Machavity The 532-upvotes answer? If so, yeah, I don’t like that answer either anyway. Along with being a hack, it also doesn’t solve the problem for end users.
but if the goal were to expunge that answer, there are many more questions where somebody has posted that as an answer.
Or do you mean the answer that I posted to that question?
ah, I see you meant the one with 575 upvotes
yeah when I see somebody posting that --disable-web-security thing as a response to a CORS question, I pretty much always downvote it
 
@sideshowbarker I'm not sure why meager took all of them out. Probably click-happy with so many to remove
 
heh
well an odd thing is that there’s one similar answer in there that they didn’t delete
It's very simple to solve if you are using PHP. Just add the following script in the beginning of your PHP page which handles the request…
 
I can kinda see the value in the PHP answer, tho. As long as you know what you're doing there, it does tell you what header you need
@sideshowbarker The warning needed some help. If you have any suggestions/criticisms I'm all ears
 
3:02 AM
@Machavity looking now
oh
I don’t think Using Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * will disable cross-origin protection for your site. is correct at all, actually
 
Ah. I wasn't sure, is why I asked. Updated
I'm a believer in letting less desirable answers stand provided we warn you accordingly
 
@Machavity Yeah, me too
 
 
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user10957435
5:55 AM
So, let's say I have a question where I've written what I consider a good answer to a common problem. The question itself is somewhat well written, but its code portion is littered with noise. Is it usually considered okay to simplify the code? This question is 5 months old, and was last active 3 months ago. My goal is to improve it as a dupe target.
 
@Chipster It depends on what you are removing. If you are confident that you can reduce the code in the question while still demonstrating the actual issue, and your doing so doesn't invalidate, or even just negatively affect, any answers, or make your answer particularly stand out, then it's not unreasonable to edit the question to clarify what is being asked, including simplifying the code in the question.
However, it would be better to do so in collaboration with an additional user, who is also a domain expert, but who doesn't have a vested interest in the question (i.e. they have no answer on the question).
 
user10957435
@Makyen Good point. I don't think it would be making my answer stand particularly out, as there's only 1 other answer. Anything I would remove wouldn't affect it. But great suggestion about someone without an invested interest. Thanks for the advice.
 
user10957435
6:11 AM
So, with the above conversation in mind, anyone with C++ expertise want to help this question out and make its code sample better? I know there are probably other duplicates out there, but I particularly like the title of this one. It short, sweet, and gets to the point. I've failed to find another question that puts it so bluntly.
 
7:14 AM
 
7:35 AM
@Chipster I gave it a stab, hope I didn't mess it up too badly
 
8:15 AM
@VadimKotov should something be done to remove the tag they created?
 
8:38 AM
@tripleee I don't know, maybe it will be deleted by Roomba eventually
is it eligible for Roomba?
 
Please refer to the comment from OP
 
 
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10:57 AM
@VadimKotov I don't think Roomba does tags, no
 
11:53 AM
 
12:42 PM
@tripleee I don't mean tags, I mean this question can be deleted by Roomba, there will be 0 questions for this tag, and it will be deleted in 24h too
 
@VadimKotov ah yes I guess you're right
 
1:03 PM
Not sure if this is the correct room. Stumbled upon this guy's edits which are getting approved left and right but should be rejected for making no improvements and missing critical flaws IMHO
 
@leonheess modflag. All they seem to be doing is add obnoxious bold face
 
Morning
 
@Adriaan Alright, thanks for the advice. Went ahead and did that
 
o/
 
1:14 PM
@leonheess just as a sidenote: an alarming lot of them are approved by OPs binding vote, not by community work in the queues. Also, most of those OPs have very low rep. I didn't check (yet) whether they are recent accounts, but it starts to smell of sock puppetry. To verify that, you could check for overlapping answers by the editor on those questions, or other questions by same OPs
 
user10957435
2:01 PM
@tripleee thanks.
 
That last SD report is spam btw
 
2:22 PM
@Machavity I don't think it was one. Apart the link, it seemed to be a legit answer
The link I impute to the fact that it was a new user
 
@Vega Possibly, but the link didn't seem related at all to the subject (was a CV, not a site). It pushed me over the "honest mistake" line
 
it's almost as if tags have to make sense :|
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probably a huge fan of test-driven development
 
2:39 PM
@AndrasDeak what a fantasy :-D
 
@Machavity I understand your line of thought
 
test-driven development Is that when you push to live and have the users test it?
 
@NathanOliver Exactly
 
I call it mad ops-driven development
If it works on local, fix your prod dood
 
2:51 PM
And know we know where "plop" comes from. Development methodology
 
3:06 PM
 
 
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4:28 PM
Morning all /o
Here's an odd one ... the poster doesn't have a problem, but posts a solution to someone else's problem from a retired website. stackoverflow.com/questions/59934598/…
Close? Ignore?
 
Close. Unclear what your asking
 
Comment to recommend the self-answer feature
 
@NathanOliver cheers
 
user10957435
5:04 PM
@NathanOliver no, that's a form of stupidity-driven development. But I recon stupidity-driven development takes many forms.
 
user10957435
Lol. Mistyped my own rant on stupidity...
 
@Chipster I seem to misspell English when commenting on a non-English post, thank god for the edit button xD
 
@treyBake Would u be liking information on being english mayjor. We english speaking make easy for low cost 999.99$
 
6:01 PM
Today I would like to yell at the person who named the action of making a Docker container "containerize" instead of "contain"
 
6:16 PM
@Adriaan I looked into it and it seems to be legit but maybe illustrates a general problem SO is facing. Check out my resulting Meta-Question: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/393396/…
 
@TylerH containerize your enthusiasm
 
-_-
groan
 
7:14 PM
 
7:26 PM
@Makyen FYI this post is not being caught by the request archiver script (perhaps because the first link you included is to a meta question rather than a question on main?)
 
7:49 PM
 
8:23 PM
@TylerH That is likely the reason.
@TylerH Thanks for pointing it out. I'll take a look at the code. It shouldn't consider a meta question something that needs to be handled.
 
8:43 PM
 
 
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10:06 PM
This offensive NAN answer has lived for 4 hours. Is this a recent regression in moderation? :[
 
I'd think most blatantly abusive content gets flagged away by community
 
@AndrasDeak Aye, I was speaking of moderation in general.
 
@E_net4thedisappointedFerris It could be. They already needed elections before the "incident". It's only gotten worse since then. Doesn't help it's on a older post to so not many eyeballs on it after it falls off the first page.
 
Ah. Maybe. Lot of people are no longer giving a crap.
 
It's the lovely irony of a site turning toxic and unwelcoming once the company took measures intended to make the site less toxic and unwelcoming.
(yes, this has probably been mentioned ad nauseam by now)
 
10:29 PM
An odd question for you guys: I'd been sitting on stackoverflow.com/questions/59937667/… for forever (open in browser, no interaction); then responded. After the post it showed as having been locked 37 minutes ago and not accepting answers. Is that expected behaviour? The fact that my response made it through, that is ...
 
@tink The block on accepting new answers for closed questions is client-side for the first 4 hours. If your browser doesn't get the notification that the question is closed, then you can still post an answer for up to 4 hours after the question is closed. After that, the block is implemented in the backend.
 
I hate that grace period
there's some meta post somewhere saying that it can theoretically be as long as 24 hours
 
@AndrasDeak Hmmm... I thought the meta was that is was up to 4 hours. I don't recall it being 24 hours.
 
maybe not a meta :) I'm trying to dig up chat transcripts as we speak
it's also possible that I simply misremember
apparently it's indeed been 4 hours since 2011 meta.stackexchange.com/questions/79434/…
But I don't remember that post, I'm pretty sure I either misread something in chat or was misinformed there
Aug 28 '18 at 21:30, by Andras Deak
> When it does, the backend allows for a grace period of around four hours (previously there was no time limit).
apparently I'm just dumb
 
10:51 PM
@AndrasDeak I Prefer to use informationally impaired ;)
 
@AndrasDeak I wouldn't say that. We all remember things differently. At one point it was unlimited, so you might have been conflating the two, or combining it with something else. It's no big deal.
 
@Makyen thanks ... so, to be a good boy, I should remove my answer?
 
@tink If you feel the question is on-topic, then leave your answer. If you feel the question is off-topic, then you should consider deleting your answer or converting it to a community wiki. Given that two users who frequent this room answered the question, it's clear that opinions differ as to it being on- or off-topic.
 
11:06 PM
@Makyen I guess it could be argued that he didn't put in too much effort (just posting his shuf line), but I thought that given tripleee's precedent it could be OK =} His actual inquiry could be perceived as a programming task - in particular looking at all the things involving sort that are accepted. Buggered if I know - I'd leave it as it stands.
 
11:17 PM
What you don't know is that it's a "he"
 
11:49 PM
@AndrasDeak - true that. I just don't care enough to use "they", and the likelihood of "he" is, given the nature of so, rather high. ;)
 
I agree with your statistical assessment, but my conclusion is that it means all that more in case of the exceptions :)
 

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