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M--
12:50 AM
@Makyen says that the flag has been helpful. What actions have been taken, I dunno. Thanks for the input ^__^
 
 
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2:33 AM
argh, I cvs-pls’ed “CORS problems with Rack-cors gem” rather then the question I’d actually mean to flag. Can a room owner please bin that one? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/48372066#48372066
 
2:43 AM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
Thanks @Makyen
 
Anytime. :-)
 
Ouch.
@M-- Good to hear.
 
 
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5:43 AM
@Shree Yes.
 
thanks.
 
np. Thanks for finding and reporting it.
 
@tripleee RO please remove; clarified, answered, and accepted
 
@tripleee I was just writing to remind you that you should ask for your request to be removed prior to answering the question, but you beat me to posting the message. :-;
 
 
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user10957435
6:53 AM
@TylerH A question you closed has shown up on meta, though I think not as a result of this room. Just thought I'd let you know since you're in here a lot :).
 
7:14 AM
@Chipster You might want to change the second url for the one on meta?
 
 
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dbc
10:55 AM
Should this be re-opened now? There's actually some XML code: product discover issue in Dynamic Sitemap.
 
11:40 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels 30 more hours until I can vote ;(
 
11:53 AM
^also has pending edit
 
12:25 PM
Is this an answer? Question had a typing mistake which is raised in this answer. But, typing mistake is not actual problem. Even after correcting typing mistake, problem persists. IMO this is Not An Answer. This should better suit in comment. Question is edited to remove the typing mistake; answer does not make sense anymore. Note that answer does not answer the actual problem in the question.
 
I would say it's not, but I wouldn't flag NAA
 
12:38 PM
Amit is right. It is an answer that says "you have a misplaced comma". Maybe that's wrong, but it is an answer.
 
@RobertColumbia An issue with the question is not the same as an attempted albeit wrong answer to the question IMO
 
@NickA Is custom flag suggested in this case? or should the answer just stay (with the downvotes may be)?
 
I would go with custom flag explaining the situation or leave a comment for the answer author so they can remove it themselves
probably the latter
but then that's already been done by OP, so i'd just leave it as is, maybe DV, and see what happens
 
1:01 PM
is there any way or any need to escalate a vandalism edit like this? the user has no other activity (though I can speculate who might have been upset by a recent comment of mine)? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/25139305
 
@tripleee You can flag your own post with a link
 
@NickA thanks, I raised a flag, though I suspect it might be superfluous
 
IIRC users can be banned from suggesting edits
 
1:18 PM
Morning
@NickA Yes, mods can manually start a "ban" and too many rejects will also start an auto "an"
 
1:32 PM
This question has two duplicates (@tripleee, feel free to hammer twice)
 
@NathanOliver I thought that was the case, it was more to make it clear that raising a flag for something like this is never superfluous, as it can stop it happening in future (cc @tripleee)
@leonheess Last action on that was 7-8 months ago, any reason it needs to be closed now?
 
@NickA Just popped up in my review-queue and flags on old posts tend to age away
 
1:50 PM
@kvantour belatedly, bang (just once)
 
@tripleee Thanks, but I was referring to add the second duplicated here
 
@kvantour oh sorry, done now
 
Thanks @tripleee, sorry to bother with these things. But I'm still far of this golden hammer thing. A bit the curse of trying to find as many duplicates as possible ;-)
 
Should we reopen this since from the comments we now know it is a dupe and I can hammer it, or do we leave it since as is the question does not have the info in it?
 
@NathanOliver if it can't serve as a good signpost, leave it be to an earlier roomba IMO
 
Nah, no good signpost. I'll leave it be
 
2:32 PM
@NathanOliver I would reopen and hammer it as a duplicate. This is cleaner
This should become much more easier to my opinion
 
3:23 PM
When I see words "Python typo" I immediately think about indentation...
 
M--
4:59 PM
That's it from me for a while ^__^
 
user10957435
5:44 PM
Whoops. Don't know how that happened. Let me find it.
 
user10957435
@Vega. Sorry, that was meant for you and I guess it didn't reply.
 
user10957435
Okay, this is the real meta question cc @TylerH
 
5:59 PM
Can somebody, please, explain to me this line in FAQ: "cv-pls is for questions that have recent activity on the question"? Why? What's the reason for it? For example, I was looking for a duplicate of a recently asked question, and one of the first links that Google offered me was leading to this post, which is not useful at all to anyone since the issue in the question couldn't be reproduced by other people.
Now I'd love this question to be closed as a "typo" and eventually deleted, so it won't appear in the search anymore, but I can't ask for it here due to this "recent activity" rule (the question was last active 3 years, 7 months ago).
 
@Chipster np and thank you
 
@Georgy While it was written for the older 5-vote system, the general idea is that there are probably millions of questions that need closing. Some predate certain rules, others are just bad and never got closed. We would overwhelm SOCVR to try and take on something that large
We are considering relaxing the rule some. We already have it listed as a topic for the next room meeting
 
6:22 PM
@Georgy SOCVR is not the site's Close Vote Review Queue. We have a limited number of people that participate, which means a limited number of total available close-votes. It's just not possible for SOCVR to handle every post which should be closed, or even every question which people who are routinely in the room want closed. Thus, which questions get cv-pls requests must be limited in some way.
The intent of the rules is to limit cv-pls requests to those questions from which the Stack Overflow community benefits the most by having them closed, or where the Close Vote Review Queue is consistently ineffective (e.g. low traffic tags). Old questions which nobody visits don't give the community all that much benefit by being closed and unvisited vs open and unvisited.
We all routinely have questions which we'd like to see closed, but which don't have recent activity, or don't qualify for cv-pls requests for other reasons. Unfortunately, the reality is that the room just can't sustain allowing everybody to post cv-pls requests for whatever questions they want. If we allowed that, then SOCVR would be just as ineffective as the Close Vote Review Queue.
We understand that it's frustrating and share in that frustration, but it's something we all have to live with in order to be effective.
As has been mentioned, the change to requiring only 3 close-votes instead of 5 does change how many questions it's possible for SOCVR to close. That change will result in adjusting the requirements we have for cv-pls requests, but it won't result in removing all requirements, because it's just not possible for the room to be effective if we do that.
 
6:35 PM
@Makyen Thank you for such an elaborate answer!
 
@Georgy np. I hope it helps. @Machavity also provided good information.
 
Longer counts ...
 
6:52 PM
Sniped
 
yes
 
Sure, I'll take care of that. :-)
 
M--
What a competition :)) Thank you all
 
@Chipster Thanks for letting me know about the update & Meta Q. Unfortunately, it looks like the Q is still POB, just with a large Stack Snippet added, so I won't be removing my downvote. Doubly unfortunately, it's been reopened (and we generally don't allow cv-pls requests for questions that are discussed on Meta).
I have left a comment outlining some of the remaining issues, though. Hopefully OP will learn from them
 
M--
8:28 PM
Anyone can point me to a meta-post explaining this in more details: "We historically lock only those posts that were once on-topic, have received a lot of views and are no longer on-topic."
but couldn't figure out based on that one how this post: stackoverflow.com/questions/22033401/… does not qualify for it.
It was never on-topic, maybe?
 
@M-- Generally the lock is only used in those cases to stop deletion. If it's not in danger of being deleted the lock really isn't needed.
 
M--
@NathanOliver Essentially you are saying the reason provided for rejecting my flag is not precise and it should've been declined cause the post is not in danger of being deleted. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
8:47 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica no cigar; it's a dupe target (even though it was asked 45 minutes ago, ugh)
why anyone closed stackoverflow.com/questions/59830602/… as a dupe of that is beyond me
I mean, we should find an older "need to call function" dupe
I can change dupe targets, so it's alright
 
@M-- Oh, I didn't know that was a mod flag rejection. That might be what they were going after, They also might not feel it is significant enough. 3K views per year is not a lot.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica OK, fixed now
(edited the dupe target to stackoverflow.com/questions/10844230/…)
 
 
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M--
10:00 PM
@Dharman PHP-moderating-question: if this went to get closed, should it be also deleted? stackoverflow.com/questions/43715197/…
 
@M-- It's unclear. I guess OP was looking for a combination of move_uploaded_file() and copy(). I would say it can be deleted as it has no value.
 
M--
I didn't notice before that it will be roomba'd anyway (just reloaded the page after closure). Thank you.
 
@M-- How did you stumble upon it and why did you want to delete it?
 
M--
It was one of my old flags from 2+ years ago which was rejected (by that time couldn't cast a CV). When read it again, thought it has no value; but wanted to ask for an expert opinion as well.
 
10:13 PM
@M--: thanks for the edit on the JMeter question. Just a quick bit of feedback - I think there is some consensus against adding "tags" in the title, see here (meta.stackoverflow.com/a/253076/472495 - fair warning though, I wrote this answer ;-)). The way I approach this is either to remove the tag from the title entirely (it is in the real tags anyway) or merge it into the title so it reads organically without a tag separator.
 
Is there really a web scraping language? stackoverflow.com/questions/59815134/…
 
@Dharman Not heard of it, but they're a 3K user, so perhaps...
Maybe this? scrape.it
> Generate WSL with a guided Point-Click interface. You do not have to worry about WSL. Express any web scrape in a sentence.
 
@Dharman IMO, it would be difficult to generate an actual MCVE for that. At a minimum, you'd have to include a considerable amount of the HTML for the page you're looking to scrape.
 
I actually wasn't asking about the question quality, I was just curious whether the tags were correct or needed editing. If you think we should close it we can
 
user10957435
10:42 PM
@TylerH It definitely seems like a weird self-answer. I might add a comment along those lines. Anyway, you're welcome. And I hope the OP will learn too.
 

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