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1:02 AM
Why is the Smoke Detector report posted here three times?
 
@S.S.Anne great question
 
@S.S.Anne Because, somehow three SD instances became active. I've put the two extra ones back on standby.
 
1:30 AM
Makyen, iBug. and teward?
Looks as if the issue starts here.
 
@S.S.Anne Those are the users which currently have SD instances running. The instances which were active were teward/Isis, teward/Osiris, and iBug/Sandy Shores. These sorts of issues, generally, originate with communication problems with metasmoke, so I also rebooted it (my instance did report communication issues when reporting to MS).
 
1:49 AM
@Makyen, are you really an advocate?
how do you organize your time studying law & IT at the same.... time
:D
 
@Plain_Dude_Sleeping_Alone It appears that my choice of the word "advocate" in my profile could be read in a way I did not intend. The definition I intended was the third one found here: "one who supports … the interests of a cause", in that I support and suggest people be aware of their online privacy. I am not a lawyer, and am not enrolled in coursework studying the law.
 
Uh I see, sort of consultant?
cool
 
Not a formal position at all, @Plain_Dude_Sleeping_Alone. Just a supporter. In the same way that you might like Python so much that you promote its use to your friends/coworkers. That would make you an "advocate" of the Python programming language.
 
@Plain_Dude_Sleeping_Alone Consulting, i.e. giving legal advice, requires that you be a lawyer (or are otherwise part of one of the parties involved). Thus, no, I don't do legal consulting.
 
2:02 AM
are you a russian?
 
@Makyen It...doesn't, actually. It is actually easier to consult and/or give legal advice when you're not a lawyer, as then you're not held legally responsible for the veracity of the advice given.
 
@CodyGray It depends on your jurisdiction and the details, as most legal things do. :-)
I have been known to give my opinion about what I would do if I found myself in a particular situation, but such certainly shouldn't be considered as advice as to what someone else should do.
 
@CodyGray, isn't the veracity a pillar of consultacy?
 
@Plain_Dude_Sleeping_Alone Interestingly, I don't think the law and programming are all that far apart. You can view the law as the code that is run on processors called courts, with supervisors called judges. Although, you should keep in mind that there's a lot of bugs in the processors, so things don't always run as one would expect. :-) The processors also tend to be slow. :-)
 
 
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4:34 AM
@CodyGray Actually, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to give legal advice if you're not a lawyer.
 
@Chipster Supposed to according to whom? There's no law against it. There is, however, a law that holds lawyers accountable if they dispense legal advice, so they're not going to do it unless they've studied the details of your case and all relevant case law. Which probably means you're going to have to pay them, or be a really good friend. It isn't something they can justifiably do on a whim.
I, on the other hand, not being a lawyer, have no such stipulations attached. Naturally, you trust what I say at your own risk, but we can discuss it freely, and I can give my opinions without fear of penalty.
 
user10957435
According to this random website I pulled up in google. But also, a friend learned something along the same lines studying to be a paralegal.
 
user10957435
Though, to be fair, the law seems to be more about representing a client, rather than saying what the law says.
 
Representing someone in a court of law is an altogether different thing... I wasn't referring to that.
The thing is, Law.SE is a huge personal liability for someone who is actually a lawyer. Whereas it isn't a problem if I were to contribute.
As I understand the law, at least in Texas (YMMV in other states), it isn't even necessarily sufficient for a lawyer to add a disclaimer to their proffered advice.
At least, that doesn't get them out of the liability.
 
user10957435
Yeah, part of why I don't hang out on Law.SE...
 
4:47 AM
@Chipster Just saying what the law says (i.e. reciting the law), isn't considered giving legal advice, in most places, if that's all you actually do. As far as I know, it's when you start getting into how the law applies to the person's/entity's specific situation, or actually suggesting what they should do are the main ways that you can cross the line.
 
user10957435
@Makyen That makes sense. Again, that's always made me cautious of Law.SE.
 
Yeah, I honestly can't believe that site ever got off the ground.
Just because of the sticky legal issues.
Not because it's a bad idea.
 
 
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12:23 PM
I am surprised to learn that I was the one who created centos8 tag. Why did I do that?
 
12:51 PM
@Dharman we all make mistakes ...
 
@rene ...like deciding to use PHP. :P
I had a problem and decided to solve it using PHP. Now error_reporting(E_ALL);
don't forget to tip your server.....wait
 
1:17 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
1:35 PM
Can an RO remove this request. it is no longer applicable.
 
@Nkosi done
 
ty
 
2:40 PM
Can someone remind me how the negative score hiding works, the spam post just deleted showed 0 when it was -1, but when down to -5 it showed -5, but I can't find the meta post about the feature
 
@NickA The negative score hiding experiment is over so it shouldn't have hidden any of the votes. Maybe it was a concurrency issue. FWIW Meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/390178/…
 
@NathanOliver I thought it had ended, refreshed and still wasn't showing the -1 until i expanded votes, meh, won't worry about it
Ta for the link
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yw
 
2:56 PM
@Machavity Sorry, couldn't help myself.
 
I replied ;)
 
That gets a +1
 
 
@Steve I think just flag as spam and it'll get deleted anyway
 
Yeah, I'm just going to spam flag that. The mods can always rescind the rep penalty if they want to. The user's other post show they don't know how to use the site.
 
3:27 PM
That is enough.
 
I need to add another filter for these tags. This is a gold mine of closable posts
 
"gold" mine
 
centos8, linux, wifi, hotspot, tethering...
 
And then there was 6
 
Hi together o/ What does SD mean by "luncheon meat detected", please?
 
@honk It's a new filter type that has a higher chance of being a false positve.
 
@honk There's some information about luncheon meat here.
 
4:12 PM
Thanks! Still wonder where that strange name comes from...
 
comes from here I believe :)
 
luncheon meat is a common name for spam (the meat industry byproduct)
 
@NathanOliver That is a pretty euphemism ;)
 
@AndrasDeak That sounds like an explanation! Thank you!
 
5:13 PM
 
Crèpes
 
almost there...
 
sorry, struggling with an mobile browser
 
FYI there is no close reason "off-topic" as such. There is an off-topic section.
 
it hvs a custom reason but I was unable to copy/paste both the URL and the closeereason /-:
sorry, I should just go away
 
5:21 PM
heh, probramming :-) @tripleee I feel your pain
mobile sucks
 
user10957435
@Machavity And another one bites the dust. But at least this one is sort of on good terms.
 
there, it's been fulfilled :-)
 
user10957435
What's been fulfilled?
 
The prophecy has been fulfilled!
 
The userscripts do work in Firefox on Android. Unfortunately, other browsers don't permit extensions in their mobile versions.
 
5:24 PM
@Chipster tripleee's malformed cv-pls request
@Makyen If only Firefox on Android weren't so sluggish :-(
 
user10957435
Oh, okay. I thought you were talking to me, lol.
 
@TylerH I'll live with a bit of sluggishness in order to have necessary features.
 
indeed, I absolutely hate that Chrome on Android doesn't support addons. I basically can't browse the web without uBlock Origin at the very least
which reminds me that it annoys me as well how they've configured Chromecast to work with casting from a computer. I don't know if it's hooking into my TV's built-in YouTube app or if Chromecast has its own browser in it YouTube app/browser in it or if there's some other nefarious thing going on, but I get ads on YouTube when I cast it from my desktop computer to my living room Vizio smart TV
What I want it to do is just literally cast the window's outputted video and audio to the TV as a wireless output device
the only thing I know to try currently is to get a Raspberry Pi and put PiHole on it, then attach it between the modem and the router. It'll miss my desktop that way, but it'll catch any laptops, tablets, phones, or wirelessly connected TVs we have in the house
 
That sounds like what I'd want out of Chromecast, but I haven't dealt with it, so can't really provide suggestions.
 
5:44 PM
@TylerH It's a double-edged sword. I'd love to run TM or similar. The flipside is older folks keep getting tricked into installing bad extensions on desktops. On a mobile device that would be awful
 
6:04 PM
I successfully added noscript when I installed firefox for android...and nothing happened
 
6:42 PM
 
 
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8:00 PM
so it's kinda on the fence as spam and as not. I am leaning toward just editing the post rather than flagging
 
@TylerH IIRC, disclosure of association is generally not necessary for links to official documentation, where those links are appropriate for the Q&A (i.e. not "go look at the [documentation] for my thing which you're not asking about"). IIRC, this has been discussed on Meta with respect to links provided by employees of larger corporations (Microsoft, if I recall the discussion correctly). However, it's reasonable to apply it to smaller companies/projects as well.
Obviously, that assumes there's nothing going on wrt. the combination of the question and answer being intended as promotional. But, basically, if the user is answering real questions about a product, then they are generally free to link to official documentation without disclosing their association.
 
@Makyen That's fair, I only mentioned it because it looked like someone had already flagged it as it had a -1 score applied to it even though it mentioned a link to official documentation and the code for how to format links as requested by OP
 
user10957435
9:16 PM
So, what happens if I earn the motarboard badge on a site, and I get an upvote on the same site that day? Does the reputation roll over to the next day? I can't find a meta on it.
 
@Chipster No. Once you are rep capped for the day, you cannot get any more upvote rep. You can still get rep from accepts and bounties
 
^^ that (ninja'd :-) ). Rep is not rolled over into the next day. You just don't get any rep for the additional upvotes or edits.
 
user10957435
So the up-votes gained in that time are lost permanently. Oh well. I just earned it on a single, apparently hot, question on Politics.
 
user10957435
Well, at least there's only 3 hours left in the UTC day, so I'll earn rep for it again in a few hours.
 
Rolls over in about 2.5 hours (UTC midnight) so you can earn some more then
 
user10957435
9:21 PM
Thanks guys.
 
user10957435
Kind of weird, I got 20 up-votes on an answer that I figured would get at least a couple, but somehow got 20. Kind of a fun first for me.
 
@Chipster You gave a good answer. I'll upvote after the rollover
 
Smaller sites are sometimes nice that way. Questions stay visible on the home page a lot longer.
 
Actually I find it's that it's easier to get things into HNQ on smaller sites. The threshold is so much smaller and there's less competition
 
user10957435
@Machavity Well thanks. You don't have to wait though, if you don't want to. I'm sure I'll get more up-votes later anyway, since I think it made it to the sidebar of how network questions.
 
user10957435
9:26 PM
@CodyGray That's also true.
 
@Chipster Yes, indeed. It became a HNQ, and also got Tweeted
 
user10957435
@CodyGray Oh wow. I'm not on Twitter a lot, so I missed that. That's kind of wild.
 
I’m not on Twitter, either. Heaven forbid. Both of those things are tracked in the question’s revision history here on SE.
 
user10957435
Oh. I didn't realize timeline kept track of that. Noted.
 
9:42 PM
It’s always kept track of when questions have been Tweeted. The notation when a question has been made a Hot Network Question is relatively new, recently added by Catija.
 
Before that we had to resort to "why are there so many upvotes on this crap?"
 
Wait, we stopped resorting to that? I still see a lot of upvotes in crap...
 
but now there's a better signal for HNQness
 
Yeah, once in a while, we do get some nice shiny new features
 
9:58 PM
@Chipster upvotes will still be shown on the post and will still count toward your tag score, so they're not truly "lost"
 
user10957435
@TylerH Good point. I should say that the reputation for them is lost.
 
10:42 PM
@halfer done
 
10:52 PM
 
@Dharman Sure. Looks good. Unfortunately, it's unlikely that the OP will ever see it :-(, but maybe someone else will and learn from it. :-)
 
@AndrasDeak Merci
 
@halfer This message could use an edit. Unfortunately, it now looks like it's too late.
 

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