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5:15 AM
@JL2210 I don't agree that that's too broad. The OP clearly indicated what they tried.
 
5:28 AM
@EJoshuaS I agree
 
 
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7:40 AM
@PetterFriberg Tack så mycket! Du vill gör det ockå ;)
 
8:29 AM
^ compromised account? Has legit answers on other SE sites
 
@MichaelDodd most likely frustrated, bc they can't delete the post.
@treyBake For me this has mcve, but is a duplicate
 
@Dharman maybe, my main beef is the "could make a recommendation on how fix this code properly" (more why isn't this code working vs no mvce)
 
@Dharman Nah, code is there but there's not enough of a description of what the problem actually is - "it doesn't work" is not MCVE
 
8:55 AM
Morning all
 
o/
 
\o
 
 
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12:17 PM
Morning
 
o/
 
1:40 PM
^IMO is not unclear, they want to access the path key in that JSON string, it's just no actual attempt at any code or research
 
2:45 PM
@Machavity That settles it for me.
 
@TylerH I signed up last night. My wife is ecstatic about the original Newsies
4 more weeks til launch...
 
I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it
 
There are so many good titles in there
I'm also excited for the 1992 X-Men series and the 1994 Iron man show
as well as so many movies
The Rocketeer especially; haven't seen that in years
 
^^They get to show National Geographic too??
oh, is a just-US-service for now?
what do you guys think of this question? Feels off-topic, but also doesn't.. it's mainly the last sentence for me that makes me think it's off-topic,,
 
3:06 PM
@treyBake I haven't read the question yet, but if you can edit a question to remove a single line so that it otherwise is on-topic, you should do that rather than close voting it.
 
@TylerH well, the main problem then comes: it's no longer a question just a bunch of statements about the problem rather than the problem itself (if that makes sense)
 
@treyBake I'm editing the post now as I read it.
We'll see what it looks like after that. Might be a bit clearer at that point with proper grammar/spelling
 
@TylerH thank you :) hopefully, there's something there and it's my lack of knowledge that's the cause of vagueness :)
 
You definitely know much more about PHP than I do--the edit is live but it's mostly just readability stuff
it does seem like a broad, open-ended question, but hard for me to know whether it's "too broad" since I don't know the language
I could see some great answers being given that are not much longer (if at all) than the question length
 
haha :p and awesome, I think the edit helps for sure, let's see how community takes it and I guess we'll see how it fares :)
thanks again^
 
3:15 PM
np
 
4:07 PM
Woot. I got a user that had a very common "typo" to self delete by asking them re look at a line of code. No CV's wasted and everyone wins \o/
 
huzzah
 
I find that difficult to believe. pic or it didn't happen (JK)
lol
 
I want another predefined close-vote reason "OP has left within 3 minutes after posting the question and has not been seen for more than half an hour".
Or does that qualify as "rude"?
 
@Yunnosch Not going to happen.
If the OP isn't in a hurry that isn't a problem. If the post lacks information it needs to be answered, then close it for that reason. Once the OP decides to get back to it they'll have a nice message of what they need to do in order to get an answer.
 
4:18 PM
In fact we specifically edit out content from posts that specify things like "help quickly" or "I'm in a hurry"
as they are noise
 
It is not about "hurry". It is about "Here is my question. I am off to bed."
With all that "SO is so hostile and condescending" going on, nobody can seriously believe to have asked a question without clarification being requested for something within 10 minutes.
 
There is nothing wrong with that. Treat it like an email exchange. It concludes when it concludes. There is no requirement for immediate response from anyone.
 
@Yunnosch There is no expectation of immediacy in SO posts. The point is to create a useful question for as many future readers as possible into the future. Some questions go years without getting an answer. Likewise, a question could be closed for years and then get edited and subsequently reopened and answered.
 
I disagree. Read "Post the question and respond to feedback" and onwards here stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask That phrasing does not sound like "next day".
 
@Yunnosch There's no explicit mention of immediacy, but that page is about guidelines to help you improve your experience. It's not a ruleset used for justification for closure (that's elsewhere in the help center)
 
4:24 PM
If you want a good experience, that is great guidance. If you don't care, then we don't either.
 
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6:48 PM
@PearlySpencer I shortened your dashed line in the stata excerpt, since it was causing issues in the excerpt box. Still gets the point across
 
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7:10 PM
@Machavity thank you for pinging to let me know.
 
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8:55 PM
Sadly another moderator resigned, George this time: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/390427/…
 
Yep. Not looking good.
 
9:10 PM
Is there an SOCVR for Über Meta?
 
@JL2210 you mean MSE?
 
@TylerH Yes, Added the Ü.
 
no, not that I'm aware of
just people in Tavern on the Meta and other, bot-powered efforts
There was a similar effort predating SOCVR as I recall on one of the math sites, but I don't know if it's still around, and it was never as organized as this group is. It was mostly just one or two guys posting close-worthy questions for the few folks who dropped by on occasion.
Probably the change to make close votes age away after a couple weeks was a death knell to that kind of effort on smaller sites.
 
9:38 PM
Is this question on topic? It seems obviously broad to me, but seems to have attracted a good answer.
 
@TylerH There's CRUDE, which is for Mathematics. It predates SOCVR by almost 2 years. At this point, they are fairly well organized and have considerable traffic in the room.
A while back, they contacted us and asked to be able to use SOCVR's tools. I made modifications: The Request Generator (both release and alpha) work for their site and room (actually any site/room, but with explicit config for theirs), although CRUDE also uses some other request formats. There's a version of the URRS which works for CRUDE. I expect, eventually, to get to changing the URRS so there's only one version, which works in any room/site combination, but it hasn't happened yet.
While the Archiver was changed to work for CRUDE—actually, to work for ROs/mods in any room, with in-code configuration of destination rooms and archiving criteria)—, users in CRUDE objected to moving requests out of the transcript, for various reasons, so CRUDE doesn't use the Archiver, leaving all requests in the room's transcript.
 
Can anyone explain the current resignations of mods to me? Didnt really get the underlying problems
 
@halfer I'm going with TB
@Coronon That's outside the scope of this room. If you'd like to chat about it I would suggest visiting chat rooms on Meta.SE
 
@Coronon I'm sorry, but we're staying away from that topic in this room. We suggest either Tavern on the Meta or The Meta Room.
dang, it... ninja'd again :-)
 
@NathanOliver Thanks
 
9:42 PM
@Makyen We need to update your code base to C++ ;)
 
@NathanOliver That might just help. :-)
 
@Makyen oh, sry, never used chats before on SO, have a good one :)
 
@Makyen that's the one, thanks. Haven't visited it in a few years
 
M--
I voted to close this question and I stand by it. stackoverflow.com/questions/2207559/…
however now it has del-vote
I think there are some good answers which qualify the post to be preserved
anybody has gold-badge to lock/protect this?
 
@M-- Only moderators can lock a post. Protecting just stops answers from < 10 rep users which isn't needed since it is closed
 
9:55 PM
@Coronon Normally we are OK with a bit of off-topic chat in this room, but the stuff on Meta is a bit sensitive at the moment, so I think we're steering clear of it.
 
M--
@NathanOliver is flagging in this case an acceptable action?
 
@M-- Yes, if you think a question is worthy of a historical lock or otherwise, you can flag
 
meh. It's not historically important so I doubt it would be locked.
 
@NathanOliver it has 11k views
 
@Coronon Thanks. It's no problem. I certainly understand your curiosity in asking about it. It's just a topic which has a lot of associated issues and points of view. It's coupled with quite a bit of frustration and strong feelings. We just feel that it's better to keep the discussions to a relatively few locations, or at least stay away from it in this room.
 
9:56 PM
in 9 years
 
that's over the threshold that most mods have bothered to enumerate over the years
 
M--
Thanks everyone
 
gtg. later all.
 
(I'm not saying I'm for or against it, just pointing out that questions with fewer views over the same time span have been locked for 'historical significance')
nn Nathan (and all, as I'm leaving too)
 
@Coronon If you just want to read more information, there are several questions dealing with it on Meta Stack Exchange. One of the questions with recent activity has a summary of some of what's gone on.
o/ o/
 
10:02 PM
\o \o
 
10:13 PM
@Makyen Ill have a look, thank you, already noticed some 'strong' emotions haha
 

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