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12:31 AM
 
 
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1:39 AM
@Makyen The entire Q&A was low quality, though
\o/
 
@EJoshuaS I don't feel that the question was so low quality as to justify not giving the question OP the entire "on hold" time to edit it. It wasn't that the question was irredeemable or wildly off-topic. The "on hold" time is specifically intended to give question OPs time to edit their question into shape based on what the close reason indicates the issue(s) are and the (hopefully helpful) comments.
I agree that the question, as it was written, is something which should be deleted. However, I feel we should, whenever reasonable, give OPs the opportunity to edit their question into shape. Sure, there are lots of questions which really should be deleted now, I just feel that our default should be to give OPs the time to edit, despite the fact that most of them won't take the opportunity to do so.
 
2:08 AM
@Makyen The OP already accepted an answer giving them teh codez though; they didn’t have much of an incentive to edit at that point.
 
@EJoshuaS I believe I've already acknowledged that the accepted answer makes it unlikely they will edit.
 
Hey guys!
 
@Ooguro Hi. Welcome. Please take a look at socvr.org and read through SOCVR's FAQ.
 
 
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7:24 AM
 
(in the latter case the error is merely that fork can (almost) never return 1, and hence the other branch was never executed, nothing else wrong)
 
7:55 AM
Seems like the downvote experiment has changed a little, now publicly caps at -1. At least that'll now given an indication that something needs looking at on a Q
(apologies if that's old news, 3 day weekend for me)
 
@MichaelDodd Not for me. It still shows 0
 
@MichaelDodd As I understand it, there's more than one non-control group (i.e. groups shown other than real scores). What you will see might be scores with a minimum of 0 or a minimum of -1, which may be different for questions and answers. The rollout of the experiment had significant flaws, which may have resulted in you being in multiple groups. At this point, you should be in, and remain in, a single group for the entire remaining experiment.
 
@Makyen Good to know. My preference is still for the true score as it stops me from piling onto a question that's already had many downvotes, but a floor of -1 is still better than a floor of 0 for my previously stated reason
 
:47565238 spam for industrial-size mining equipment? Well, that's a first for me..
 
8:10 AM
@Adriaan Well, there digging a really big hole for themselves. :-)
 
@Adriaan Ah don't fret about it, it's a miner issue
 
:-) much better.
@MichaelDodd I agree with all of that. I consider the choice to not downvote when the question is already at a quite negative score to be significant. However, personally, I want the results of the experiment to show that not displaying real scores is a very bad idea. So, I haven't been clicking to see the real score prior to voting. I've just been voting based on the displayed score, and not changing it, even after looking at the real score.
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That's resulted in me downvoting a lot more posts, both questions and answers, than I normally would.
 
For me personally it doesn't matter much. I vote on the post, not on the score. Whether a post is at -30 or +30 is for me irrelevant when I cast my vote.
 
8:29 AM
@Adriaan For me, if the post is sufficiently negative, then I'll often choose not to downvote. For questions, that's usually -1 (30 day Roomba), or -3 (off the front page and eligible for 20k delete-votes once closed). For answers: -1 (eligible, for 20k delete-votes), then some nebulous number beyond that which is "negative enough" to give a clear signal to other people who are reading that the answer is bad and shouldn't be used. Admittedly, most of what I vote on are questions.
 
 
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10:43 AM
^ It's an interesting question, thus the upvotes, but isn't solvable by programming means
 
10:55 AM
Interesting Q indeed. Would hope that the answer is no actually :)
 
11:47 AM
Would this be considered POB or TB stackoverflow.com/questions/58375736/… ? I am leaning on POB but would like a second opinion (sic)
 
@Nkosi Primarily opinion-based.
 
@JL2210 ty.
 
12:17 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
12:32 PM
^ looks dubious, but at least he discloses affiliation. Dunno how to handle that one
 
@Makyen Alright! I will
 
 
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2:00 PM
@RiggsFolly Is it really? I've always thought asking for a specific function in an API is okay
 
@NathanOliver His unlucky number is 5
 
1 close vote ah aha ah, 2 close votes ah ah ah, 5 close votes mu ha ha
5
 
2:26 PM
@NathanOliver Ahh, ok, I will add that to the list of bad things I do. Would you call it a little broad then?
 
I don't mind it but I wouldn't begrudge other for going with TB.
 
3:36 PM
is . concurrency hard: i.stack.imgur.com/GVzQw.png
 
 
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5:45 PM
Good afternoon all!
 
\o
should be in one line
 
Hurray! hangs head in shame
 
We saw nothing ;)
 
Next round on me
 
5:51 PM
scotch on the rocks please
 
user8682794
Hi everyone. Is there a way to flag a tag wiki?
 
@PearlySpencer flag one of the tagged questions for mod attention and mention the tag wiki is problematic
Note that mods aren't expected (and thus usually refrain from interfering) to be subject-matter experts in case that's the issue
But plagiarism, offensive language, spam, etc. they will probably fix, no issue
 
if its just a rollback for a wiki you can ask any 20K-er
 
@SecretAgentMan We prefer close reasons to stick within the listed reasons. An easy way to do that is with our Request generator userscript
 
user8682794
@rene @TylerH I made substantial edits in the stata tag wiki but two roboreviewrs rejected the edits. Now I have to do it all over again.
 
@PearlySpencer In that case I'm not sure if mods will do anything
mod intervention is required for things that normal community users typically cannot handle. You can handle a rejected edit suggestion by resubmitting it (with any needed fixes, if that applies) and awaiting a second review, or waiting til you get to 20k rep and submitting the edit without needing a review
can you share the link to the rejected edit so we can see the reasons for rejection?
 
Please send your duplicates this way. As per now I have the gold badge!
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\o/
 
Congrats
 
@Adriaan Congrats!
 
6:16 PM
\0/
 
user8682794
@TylerH Click here to see it. Make sure you scroll far down to see the edits.
 
@Adriaan Congratulations!
 
thanks all
Now I can finally go on strike against SE!
 
@NathanOliver One for me too, slurp :-)
Hold the ice though, maybe a drop of spring water
 
@NathanOliver I prefer my Scotch without rocks in them. I have had them in the freezer for a long time, but Scotch imo has to be neat and ~room temperature. Colder than that just kills the taste
 
6:19 PM
@PearlySpencer I do wish they'd give trusted user editing to anyone with a gold badge in that tag. Would make things a lot easier
 
Which is a good thing to do for heineken Dutch canal water, but not exactly for Scotch
 
@PearlySpencer I see where the users may have rejected it if not reading carefully (or far enough down) -- the first several pages-worth of scrolling look like you're just adding line breaks. If you repost the edit, let me know and I can approve that (as I agree it's a good edit)
 
user8682794
@Machavity it is annoying. And i agree with your view but I do not think SE wants to do any improvements to the core product.
 
@Machavity Yeah, that'd be nice. There are lots of thing that would be nice if they would bother to spend time retooling the power user/moderation features
 
user8682794
@TylerH It is easier to see the changes in the mark down. The reviewers just did not bother looking a bit more carefully.
 
user8682794
6:21 PM
@TylerH Is there an easy way to resubmit the suggested edit without editing again the whole thing?
 
@PearlySpencer I would skip the header sections. That's probably what sank you. Just click on the markdown tab and copy the block you added, then paste and submit
 
@PearlySpencer Not that I'm aware of. If you still have the tab open that you used to submit the edit, you could click the 'back' button til you get to the editor view
Machavity's suggestion would probably be easier
 
@PearlySpencer I can make that edit for yoiu, if this is the corrwct source: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/…
 
user8682794
@rene
 
user8682794
@rene i submitted that one too but also got rejected.
 
user8682794
6:31 PM
@rene I was trying in that one to include a note for new users to click on the learn more link
 
the triple ping
 
user8682794
yes sorry about that
 
@PearlySpencer have a look now at that wiki
 
user8682794
@rene thank you for this! Can you consider approving this suggested edit as well?
 
user8682794
It looks funny in the markup but will look okay in the wiki excerpt i think.
 
6:37 PM
@PearlySpencer wow, proposed after exactly 8 years!
 
user8682794
@double-beep better late than ever!
 
I also find it a little funny that someone is rejecting the edits of the by far most prolific editor, not to mention creator, of the tag. Oh, and the second highest user by tag score, too.
:-)
nice catch
 
user8682794
@TylerH i originally had these in a q&a on the main site so i can edit and link to it easily and users can search for it and even add it in their favorites. Then there was a huge uproar about it and it was moved on meta where it was literally buried. Now that i try to put these in the tag wiki people reject them.
 
6:53 PM
@Machavity Thanks @Machavity. I think I tried to start with Unclear but dropped the usual when I realized I was riding the struggle bus. Keyboards are hard. I'll fix it.
 
@PearlySpencer done, but I'm not exited ...
 
user8682794
@rene yeah it needs a few more dashes to make it look aligned.
 
@PearlySpencer 0 characters left
 
user8682794
that is to push 'Important" further down
 
user8682794
25 or 26 to be precise
 
user8682794
6:58 PM
if you reduce the wisth of the window you will see that it looks okay when aligned
 
user8682794
*width
 
@PearlySpencer please see my RFHC: i.stack.imgur.com/d3Vgj.png
 
user8682794
@rene aargh will have to trim the text, give me a second
 
6 to 8 seconds already ...
 
user8682794
okay @rene i submitted a suggested edit.
 
7:05 PM
I clicked approve
Okay, please check
(thx @NathanOliver)
 
user8682794
hurraaayy it works!
 
user8682794
thanks!
 
yw
 
user8682794
7:06 PM
hopefully new users will see that
 
user8682794
i am fed up having to post comments all the time
 
So, does that mean we need to reopen the tag now?
 
that one looks a little weird
 
@Machavity burninate it was?
 
user8682794
7:08 PM
@TylerH I would trade a little weird with some improvement in questions
 
@rene Oh, we're not burninating stata. My bad
 
ew, when did the ask question posting button get reworded to "review your question"
 
user8682794
@TylerH oh ahaha i had not noticed that
 
user8682794
that's clearly a bug
 
@Machavity No, only if the tag is on the starboard ... so is on, thanks to @Adriaan ....
 
user8682794
7:09 PM
bad above the unwatch /ignore buttons it looks okay even when you resize
 
user8682794
@Machavity are you trying to hurt my feelings?
 
@PearlySpencer Of course not. Feelings are important. We are 100% in CoC compliance here waves at CMs
 
user8682794
@Machavity seriously after the CoC fiasco i have reduced my commenting activity considerably
 
@rene oh please do, then my strike can be indefinite :D
 
user8682794
It is a pity that SE did not follow the Wikipedia approach
 
7:13 PM
@PearlySpencer Openly begging for money in a giant header banner?
 
that was my joke :(
 
user8682794
@Machavity still better than this.
 
user8682794
I just think that the company's interests are fundamentally different that those of the people contributing on here
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Judging by the votes on meta, I have to agree
 
7:50 PM
If I'm currently engaged with a Help Vampire who refuses to clarify key details, but keeps adding new and extending questions when something clicks, is this a CV Unclear situation?
 
@SecretAgentMan If you do not have an answer posted there then yes. Otherwise you have a stake and we don't allow cv-pls on questions where you have a stake in them.
 
@NathanOliver everything has been in the comments and I've probably carried on to far thinking they were operating in good faith (though I don't want to assume other-than-good faith even now).
 
Assuming good faith is the way to go. Some people are just really bad at expressing what they want. I deal with it all the time in an IT role.
 
Yeah, but from the comment trail, it seems there is active resistance to helping the helper here.
OP just deleted it.
Thanks for input @NathanOliver
 
8:07 PM
@Adriaan Congrats! Still working on mine in Jasper..
 
 
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9:49 PM
@NathanOliver Can you remove this request please. tya
 
ty
 
ok
 
9:51 PM
lol
 
rofl
 
you win.
:)
 
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious \o/
 
10:02 PM
"supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".split('').reverse().join('')
 
^ sad thing is I ran that in my head when I saw it. way too much code on the brain.
Then cheated and used F12 + console => "suoicodilaipxecitsiligarfilacrepus"
 
10:36 PM
@SamuelLiew Please stop spreading STDs in the chat
 
@NathanOliver @TylerH I think we're all going to be signing up for Disney+. Gargoyles confirmed
 
@Machavity "It was a time of darkness; It was a world of fear. It was the age..." of CoC changes
"Coders by day, moderators by night, we were betrayed by the community we had sworn to protect..."
 
10:53 PM
Somewhere, Shaq is hiding
 
@Machavity I'll take "Things I wish I can take back" for $100 Alex.
 
11:07 PM
^ reads like an ad
 
@Nkosi Binfer is a well-known spam site. Comes in waves
 
@Machavity Ah, so my crapdar was spot on. cool.
 
Would stackoverflow.com/questions/58385065/… be too broad or something else?
 

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