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01:12
Actually, off-site resource is probably more accurate.
01:38
@Makyen Do I remember correctly that we can now repeat a request that has aged away, once? I can't seem to find it in the FAQ.
@MikeM. Yes, one repeat was the consensus from the April 2019 Room Meeting (#3). However, I recommend that you look at the wording of the request reason to see if you can make it easier for users to evaluate the question.
@Makyen Will do. Thanks.
02:16
Does this answer look suspicious to anyone? stackoverflow.com/a/57981840/5764553
02:48
1 message moved from SOCVR Request Graveyard
@AndrewMyers It's weird, but I wouldn't red flag it
03:03
@Machavity Okay. Linking to a specific person's Facebook account reeally seemed odd to me. I also kind of wonder if the rest of the answer is some sort of login details.
 
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06:21
:47332541 I suspect a spam seed but let's get it closed first
@MichaelDodd Yeah, probably.
@RobbyCornelissen Other answers are spam though
(now deleted)
I believe you can flag as spam even if you voted to close
What's with this sudden influx of aviation spam?
@tripleee Yes, you definitely can.
06:36
@tripleee Yeah I wasn't certain enough on the first one, but yeah this is a spam wave
07:34
:47333082 f - Worth modflagging over username though? (for reference since Smokey removed it, it was "fuc society", exact spelling)
Really surprirsed that account wasn't nuked last time
08:08
unusual number of below-autoflag spam in Charcoal recently; maybe take a peek and flag some spam if you are bored?
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08:24
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08:40
my prev. request should be a dupe vote^
:D
09:24
@kvantour what I don't get is why this question is answered (multiple times, upvoted answers) whereas that second one you posted as TB looks IMO the same (Manipulate file with text from A to B w/o attempt), and gets to -10 and no answers?
@Adriaan Simple, 1 happened at night when less people were moderating
@Adriaan also, trivial duplicates get lots of answers if they are not closed immediately
whereas the second one is so unclear as to be challenging to answer simply because you can't know what the correct answer is
@NickA 1 happened in the evening of Europe, full swing of day in US, according to the timestamp. Second was asked early morning hours for Europe, dead of night in the US. Your logic seems to be backwards
@Adriaan .... Sometimes I forget timezones exist...
@tripleee I do understand the second (I think). Lacks effort, could use an actual description of the problem statement (OP wants an output row for each "yes" in the input row), but otherwise understandable IMO
But on easy to answer dupes I agree, that's a pain in the behind in most tags. If a tag is big, there's hundreds of FGITWers posting a 25 character placeholder before closure, then make it an answer; in smaller tags someone will eventually answer before the question is dupe-closed
09:49
@Adriaan I think the answer is simple. Any question of the form: How do I manipulate a text file using a set of standard Linux applicatoins has been answered already in one form or another. There is just not a canonical answer out there. The second question clearly lacks effort, the first one IMHO does not show any attempt, but is just interesting as it is short and not really common, but essentially not very different. Sometimes I wonder if it might be better to rewrite the question.
@kvantour there is a duplicate for that though; I unfortunately was too quick to VTC and only then investigated
10:49
@Shree There is code now
@Dharman Thanks. @Makyen bin this request please. OP edit and add code.
11:22
Honestly that answer ^ surprised me, even owning adderall in the UK can result in 5yrs of jail time
@Machavity Looks like Makyen is not around. Can you please.
Thanks.
@Shree np
12:18
Morning
'fternoon
@MichaelDodd almost reads like more of a hardware issue
12:38
@Machavity I like that comment better than yours to be honest. It is more descriptive without having to click through a link with a not very descriptive text
@Adriaan My main gripe with his is he doesn't mention Webmasters directly. Can reword the stock one tho
@Machavity chuck in a webmasters link in his and I'm a happy elephant
I guess the reason he does not mention it explicitly is the "don't migrate crap" mantra; giving people a link "ask here, but caveat, caveat, caveat, caveat" will cause most people to ignore the caveats and ask directly over there. Your answer, which he links, does mention Webmasters, and if OP finds that, it already means they are willing to research where they can ask
12:55
Plop people and elephants
Does not acknowledge bald people. Remains on strike until the spearrel is back
He has a beard now. We should refer to him as beardel
Oh I like it
@DalijaPrasnikar tee-hee
How to deal with questions which are like "Do this code for me" (without putting any efforts) ? Especially, when the OP's previous question history reeks of the same
eeew, webmasters changed to "Pro Wemasters"? Why is the "pro" suddenly necessary
13:41
@Adriaan probably to make it more clear that it's not about some 15 year old trying to host their first website but about professional webmastering stuff only
just like Server Fault is not for home server setups, only professional/enterprise networking/server questions
What if I want a professional setup in my home? Go to Super Server Fault Users?
@TylerH so 15 year olds wanting to host their own website have no where to go? Sounds a bit like they should rename SO to "Pro coders website, we don't do your homework"
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^ YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ^
@NathanOliver NetworkEngineering.SE just added engineering to it. Because in Star Trek, the engineers are awesome
13:45
:)
@Machavity to be fair, that's a valid reason :p
14:00
@Adriaan SE sites SE Sites except for Stack Overflow are allowed to decide what kind of content they want to accept
Zoe
Zoe
There's hits on their meta for "Pro Webmasters" from 2010
No longer pro, eh?
Zoe
Zoe
Archived version from 2011. Also uses "pro".
14:16
Maybe it's a Diablo thing, Pro Webmasters of the Infinite Monkey Paw
"Legendary"-grade sites get a unique name like Stack Overflow, the others get more prefixes and suffixes as they grow from A51 to Epic level
We should also color code them. New sites are white, slightly older green, stable blue, mature purple, graduated pink, and legendary orange.
I suggest using the Dwarf Fortress notation. For example, ☼Code Golf☼ would be a site of masterful quality
For another example, !!xStack Overflowx!! would be a site that's tattered and burning.
@JohnDvorak I don't think any notation could make Code Golf a quality site, sorry...
That's true, but artifact items only get an individual name in italics. That's boring.
Code Golf has always been a weird one to me.. it seems to be the only "for-fun" type of SE site (that I know of)
14:29
You might also use «decorated item» for sites that have their own design, but that's not really an indicator of quality.
@treyBake WorldBuilding seems fun
Also LifeHacks is surely just for fun because none of the stuff is actually useful (or it's obvious even to a 3rd grader)
I would posit that SciFi is also purely for fun
True, I just mean at least they hold a kind of Q/A format
whereas code golf is challenge-based
Puzzling is also just for fun (also challenge-based), save for the few "explain this" questions
oooh I completely forgot about Puzzling!
14:47
@treyBake Isn't CodeGolf still Q&A based? E.g. someone presents the challenge (the "question") and then people answer the challenge with their best solution?
@TylerH well, if you put it like that.. :p
15:03
@NathanOliver It's Off-topic, the OP looking for code "Just give me code not the tutorials"
Hence the cv-pls
Funny comments out there :D
If a link from a chat profile to their user profile isn't working what's the best course of action? Modflag?
@NickA I would think so. They could forward it to the devs if they can't fix it themselves.
Cool, ta
15:11
If the person is willing they could also post on meta
Also this users rep in chat doesn't match their rep on their user profile (10k difference IIRC)
I assume related to the fact the profiles aren't linked correctly
15:26
@NickA Most likely. Someone here in the room had a situation like that, but I can't remember how exactly it was resolved. I want to believe a mod got involved and forwarded it to the devs.
Yeah I went with: "[redacted]'s chat profile ([redacted]) doesn't appear to be correctly linked with their SO profile ([redacted]), this is resulting in their badges/rep not showing correctly in chat and the link to their SO profile from their messages/chat profile resulting in a Not Found page. Can you investigate/raise to devs?"
@NickA Is it something like this?
@Machavity No, this one lists the SO main as their account rather than meta, the user ID is just incorrect
as in their chat ID and SO user ID are different
It looks more like this
@NickA Are you sure it's the same user?
15:39
Nigh 100% certain, if not, I'll do triage for a week
@NickA coughs Help and Improvement. And you clear the queue ;)
^ was just about to say that
@NickA If you were 100% sure, you would have said H&I.
ninja'd
H&I just doesn't work!, if you click VLQ it's declined, if you edit you're doing it wrong, which leaves skip
Gimme a chance at least :P
15:47
@Makyen I'm 100% certain, I could access their old (now gone) profile, because it was archived by web.archive twice (why it archived the specific profile IDK), profiles have same join date/time, same info, etc.
@M-- OP has made a couple (small) edits; does it constitute an MCVE now?
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16:06
@TylerH to be fair (and not too hard on them) yes.
now that it cleared and I understand the nature of the question, it is a dupe. I think we don't need to reopen it just to close it as a dupe. @TylerH @NathanOliver please remove my reopen request.
user3956566
hm raising flags in chat is not an effective way to get answers about things. It's better to just ask the people in chat. Was that a mod flag or a general flag? did anyone else see it?
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@YvetteColomb that was my bad! wanted to ask for removing the req. not trying to get answers, just for a sec forgot that it would get to you guys not room moderators
Hey Aussie person, sup?
It would be nice if there was a room specific flag queue for RO's.
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16:16
Add it to the 10-year-old pile of feature requests for chat?
user3956566
@M-- ah cool. I suspected that, wanted to clarify
Nah. I save the keystrokes for a FR that has a chance of being implemented.
user3956566
@NathanOliver yes it would actually
@NathanOliver Ping me on that one
user3956566
@PaulStenne oi all good. except tired. how are you? Oh and my baby turns 18 next week AND graduates from high school..
user3956566
16:18
@NathanOliver did we have words earlier on meta? it feels like days have past since then.
@YvetteColomb Pretty much the same, working from Portugal now. Ready for your baby becoming a grown-up?
user3956566
@PaulStenne yep she's a good egg. Except her older brother and I are putting her in a tower and not allowing her to grow her hair!
@YvetteColomb Kind of. I felt you were being passive aggressive and you disclosed some information you shouldn't have.
user3956566
yeh I shouldn't have done that, that's why I deleted the comment
user3956566
I was getting worked up over Niel. I then took a breath and calmed down
16:20
@YvetteColomb I have no outstanding issues with short-hair people.
user3956566
@PaulStenne Portugal sounds nice. We have to chat some time soon
That's what I figured so I didn't let it get to me.
user3956566
@NathanOliver yeh I didn't like bluing with you. We get along well most of the time - it's been a long time since I quit this room! remember I'd get worked up and annouce I was quitting the room and then be back in a matter of hours :P (so mature I might add)
It's great so far yeah =D
When ya available?
user3956566
this week sometime. It's 2.23 am now. so maybe in a day or two? we should get our time sorted
16:25
@YvetteColomb Mh, it's 17:24 here. So you're 9 hours ahead. Maybe in the morning for me yeah, I'll ping you around chat =)
user3956566
@PaulStenne yep and you can catch me in the meta chat room - in case the flower man - you know...
user3956566
omg he is here!
user3956566
speak of the flower...
I think you mean the flower-flower.
Also, go to sleep. It's been years since you told me you should watch over your effin' sleeping schedule.
user3956566
@PaulStenne ikr! I just finished work.. I work from home you know - this is my pre-sleep down time :P I'm going to see my horses tomorrow. I'll show them a pic of you and tell them about you :D
16:33
@YvetteColomb Share a pic of them as well (ministry maybe, flowers don't like horses I hear)
@PaulStenne It's perfectly understandable. The atrocities leveled against flowers by horses are too numerous to list.
user3956566
@NathanOliver exactly! horses eat flowers
Not only that, but they aren't very careful about where they "use the facilities" when in the pasture.
user3956566
oh but rene is so pretty
Personally I find him a bit blurry
user3956566
16:42
he's is a fuzzy character
user3956566
such a strange avatar
user3956566
and he's stood by it for years
@PearlySpencer Why that reason?
user8682794
17:12
@NathanOliver the problem described does not happen in the last 4 versions of the software. I checked extensively.
Sure, but it did in the version the OP used. Just because the problem doesn't exist in new versions doesn't mean it should be closed for the version it does.
@M-- thanks for the response!
17:32
Isn't there a userscript turning SO into dark theme? Or should I use stylus plugin ?
17:49
@Selaron I suggest Dark Reader
@PaulStenne woks. thank you!
@Selaron Yes Rob or Andy or someone has one (one of th emods)
Will try that either, thanks :)
18:13
@PaulStenne is that a Marvel super hero?
18:26
@EJoshuaS What's a check-pls?
@NathanOliver It means he wants to leave the restaurant. I told you blurry flowers on the tables would drive away paying customers
I didn't know blurry flowers could drive!
@NathanOliver Autocorrect :(
@EJoshuaS Okay. Please make sure you use a real close reason.
@Machavity is there a tip?
18:59
@rene Yes. Don't put your life savings into Bitcoins
@Machavity I feel like I heard it somewhere already. Is this a quote from something?
Zoe
Zoe
@Dharman From basically any financial adviser? /shrug
19:16
Editing poorly written questions sometimes can make a lot of difference. For example, just now I found question I wanted to vote as unclear, which I then edited and was able to VTC as too-broad instead.
@Dharman I just consider it common sense
19:45
@Machavity That really doesn't look like a resource request to me.
^ FYI: It looked too-broad to me though.
@NathanOliver Bleh. Meant to say No MRE
OK
Dang, it won
I posted a comment for OP's consideration
Looks good
 
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21:54
@EJoshuaS Please do not use words like "terrible" to describe posts in your request reasons; stick to actual close reasons. You can include factual information intended to help others evaluate the request or post, but do not include negative/prejudicial statements about quality. You've been asked multiple times to take more care with your request reasons. When asked, you appear to change for a while, but then return to including such language and statements in your request reasons.
Because you have not maintained a change, the ROs are going to be taking a harder stance about letting such statements slide in your request reasons. If you include such a statement in a request reason, we're going to move the request out. Subsequent problematic requests will result in a kick. We'd prefer to have you participating here, but we need what you include in your request reasons to change.

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