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user10957435
02:40
Can someone advise me: what will happen if I flag this as Not an Answer? Would my flag get declined or be considered unhelpful? It it not worth flagging? I know if I found it via review, I would recommend deletion. However, I didn't find it in review. Since I'm not in review, should I just flag it instead?
@Chipster Flag would get declined.
user10957435
@JohannesKuhn I was afraid of that. That's why I asked. It there anything I could/should do?
Downvote.
user10957435
@JohannesKuhn Thanks.
 
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07:40
stackoverflow.com/questions/57936501/… - this has bounty, but it is too broad and can't be closed. How can we proceed? Mod-flag it?
@VadimKotov yes
08:02
@VadimKotov I've chucked in a flag as well, IIRC posts with more flags get bumped up the priority order for mods
OP has edited answer into the question. stackoverflow.com/q/45497142/4826457 . (NATO) Typo?
@SurajRao I rolled back the edit and left a comment
ok.. not sure if they would leave an answer... the post is fairly old.
09:14
@Shree already reported two messages up
Ops. Sorry I don't see that.
09:38
Is anyone familiar with the ? A discussion on one of the questions resulted in someone debating (practically demanding) reopening
@Adriaan Leave it shut IMO
Let 'em take it to meta. It's a valid closure.
But no, I'm not familiar with the API
rethorical = rhetorical? :p but yeah 100% is off-topic. other sites can't expect SO to be their support line xD
@treyBake They can if they're active in answering and appropriately brief users on how they should act when on the site, the fact they don't is the issue
(not they're only line of support, but programming support is fine)
09:42
I mean support line in the full sense of the word, it's cool to ask questions, but to expect SO to be their support point is a bit.. annoying
He does have a point about though, about half appear to be unanswerable customer support questions. On to meta with pitchforks, a burninate request?
I think I was on codecademy and they just link SO if you need help without really much guidance
They do that on quite a lot of pages to be fair. Often with bad guidance, and also explicitly pointing them here with off-topic questions
Where was that meta question on companies explicitly pointing here for off-topic customer service related issues? Google's youtube-data-api does literally that.
how does SO monitor these kinda claims?
09:52
@treyBake as I said: there is a meta on it somewhere iirc. That'll tell us whether to post on meta, leave a comment on said Q, or fill out the contact form. I've got to go now, so can't look for it atm.
ahh OK, my bad^ thought it was more specific meta post
(also check the linked post in the comment on MSO from rene)
Who?
already gone ...
10:09
So SD took these four SO-accounts to set flags on the post?
@Selaron yeah
1st time I saw this happen, must be kind of rare
you can review autoflag FPs on metasmoke if you have an account (IIRC you do?)
@tripleee Yes I had this activated some days ago :)
a few per month by quick glance
10:44
@MichaelDodd Did you get a response on these flags?
@Selaron Helpful
Though have one for vandalism that's still pending from yesterday...
@MichaelDodd Sorry if my comment on that ListFragment question was a little brusque. I didn't mean to be rude, or anything.
@MikeM. Ah no worries, I realised my mistake after I saw it. I've now had my extra cup of coffee :)
 
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Morning
12:57
Plop everyone
13:12
o/
what's the most suitable close-reason for PEBCAK? xD Well, maybe not 100% PEBCAK - but this doesn't feel too broad, or unclear or no MVCE.. it's just a general question due to a lack of understanding in fundamentals
@treyBake POB I'd say, if I remember correctly you don't have to use PHP using OOP principles if you don't want to
very true, you needn't make use of functions
so I guess, it's POB -based on design
nvm, been closed as unclear
But 4 different close reasons so far, there's no consensus :P
a close is a close so all good haha :)
13:20
@treyBake Unclear IHMO. Do I have to use "X" in language Foo... why?
Yeah, there was 4 different things including unclear when i went on, so cast the last vote as unclear
A question could work on this format: Do I have to use the function keyword in JS to define a predicate? → You can also create a lambda with the arrow notation, () => {}
imo it isn't unclear, it's just.. something that clearly wasn't researched at all, an almost documentation-request haha
13:41
Also, in case anyone is bored and wants to practice - regexcrossword.com this looks like a fun challenge
11
neat!
@TylerH Newspapers: We have crosswords! Regex Community: Hold my beer
hehe
Zoe
Zoe
14:06
@Machavity Don't you mean (?i)[ho]+(d|ld|pe)(\s*)m[ey](et)?\2b(e|a)(\4|a)r?
@Zoe well played
Zoe
Zoe
;)
hope meet baar?
Can do; Baar is not too far from here. 40mins by train.
I am bad at regex: old meet bear
14:15
@TylerH Been there, done a... oh, there's a new one. Nice!
Zoe
Zoe
@Adriaan Adriaan's traain?
14:31
oh, they changed the name - it was what's the best way...
in that case.. too broad^
@treyBake ideally your choice of closevote reason shouldn't hinge on the minutiae of how the title is worded
That's case-by-case isn't it? o.O If the title contains "what's the best way to XYZ" surely that makes it POB?
@treyBake I would disagree. The body is more important.
Then how much weight does a title really hold? Is the title not the question summary?
14:35
If you actually expect the answers to actually be pitted against each other, sure. If "best" actually means "any old", as is usually the case, then no.
@treyBake Yes, but people suck at writing question summaries
If you can simply change "what's the best way" to "how do I do X" and make it on-topic, you should do that. However, many times that leaves the question too broad
So edit and if appropriate, as too broad?
That sounds generally reasonable
OK thank you all, will program that into my AI :)
14:37
Or skip the editing if it's clear it should be closed anyways
14:53
grumble grumble UAC grumble grumble
@Dharman Both the answers on that questions are nothing but link only. Which is obvious though as question is asking for links.
@AmitJoshi Are you commenting on my comment? I only posted the comment on the NATO
@Dharman Just wanted to say bad questions attract bad answers...
^ What to close that as? Feels like a meta question
Or just unclear?
@MichaelDodd Either meta or SU if they are asking about how to do it on some other site. Since we don't know which, unclear looks like a good call.
15:14
has anyone else just had a huge centos package list update? I ran it and had 200+ package to update.. I ran update yesterday, lil' worried haha
16:53
(it's probably a duplicate, too, and kinda not even related to programming)
@treyBake I normally patch my debian box each 6 to 8 months and I don't keep track what gets done then. Last time it de-installed mysql for me ...
@treyBake Looks like the next version of Centos dropped. One of my recently patched 7 boxes has a large list
 
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user8682794
21:36
@Makyen @TylerH Please delete my last cv-pls request.
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
user8682794
Thanks
22:04
@Machavity ahh must be it, nothing fell over so, that's good!
@rene weird, don't think I've ever had that (luckily)
22:15
Is this question on-topic here? I have mixed feelings. stackoverflow.com/questions/21691755/…
22:26
I feel like if the accepted answer was edited so that it was more future-proof it could be viable? I'm not 100% though haha
I found some resources - elmindreda who seems to have involvement in the project said It used to stand for OpenGL framework, but nowadays it just stands for GLFW. - not really sure how valid a source that is though :S
23:02
Is the famous question badge bugged? o.O didn't want to report on meta in case it's just me, but, scrolling through - saw I had a 10k view count, but no badge :'(
How long have you waited for? Maybe the batch job didn't kick in yet.
I'm not sure to be honest, I was just up and thought I'd have a quick peruse haha

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