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12:01 AM
 
In regards to my most recent cv-pls, the poster (after several requests to provide a MCVE) decided to edit and dump a couple of hundred lines of code into the post. Still no MCVE.
 
 
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3:47 AM
Holy crap, Jeff Atwood came back to comment about the blog. And he wants to put SOCVR out of business (in a good way)
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4:03 AM
Wikipedia have a sort of "game" now - The Wikipedia Adventure I think it is - to help ppl get started. @Zoe tried it.
> What you'd want for a beginner or a student in the field of programming is almost the exact opposite of what Stack Overflow does at every turn
\o/ come back
 
4:48 AM
@Makyen The user added some CSS, but it still doesn't reproduce the problem.
 
5:07 AM
o/
 
5:18 AM
\o
 
 
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Zoe
7:16 AM
@StephenKennedy yeah, it's pretty good. Not quite GTA, but I see the charm :p
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9:42 AM
Hope this sounds right...
If you aren't providing an actual code, whatever answer we provide won't work in your actual environment. — Praveen Kumar Purushothaman 9 secs ago
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman that seems okay.
 
@rene Thanks 😊
 
yw
 
10:16 AM
\o
 
10:57 AM
 
 
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12:10 PM
Is this question on topic?
 
12:26 PM
hmmmmmm. tricky one that one. seems border line to me
its close to a customer services type of question
 
@GertArnold I don't think it addresses a programming problem directly, so it is off-topci to me
 
1:03 PM
waffles
 
Sorry
 
np
 
 
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4:14 PM
@double-beep SO should show this to all new contributors what you just said, "Think of Stack Overflow as more like Wikipedia than like Reddit"
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hehe
 
Zoe
Except Wikipedia actually offers decent tools and properly teaches new users to correctly interact with the site
 
@Zoe We should put up a web page to say that Wikipedia is the correct place to ask lazy/GMTC questions, just like Google and various other companies do. No reason why Wikipedia can't get some of our fun!
 
@halfer Should I bring marshmallows?
 
@JohnDvorak Yes! Toast the marshmallows on the dumpster fire of LQ questions and untried homeworks!
@MunimMunna I've been saying this for years, and the most wilful contributors won't listen :=/
 
@halfer 2 can play at that game matey boy... redirects Wikipedia sandbox to SO Ask A Question page
 
 
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Zoe
@halfer I thought that was your email, not Wikipedia?
 
6:43 PM
We could write a filter that automatically sends any questions containing "Please guide me" or "Thanks in advanced" straight to Halfer's inbox
 
 
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7:43 PM
@Makyen I don't have the del privilege yet, but I am trying to understand when the question qualifies for del-pls? The question you suggested can be roomba'd, so what is the reason to cast del votes on it?
 
8:06 PM
Hey folks, I just read the FAQ, but it wasn't quite clear. What's the policy on requesting close votes for duplicates (specifically for older questions)?
 
A duplicate is already a closed question.
 
@Dharman not necessarily.
 
@Dharman Sorry, I meant a question which I believe to be a duplicate that hasn't been closed yet.
 
@thesecretmaster We normally deal with post that have had recent activity that normally attracts new attention to the post
Nothing stopping you from voting on older dupes but requesting it here may not be best.
I am sure there may be edge cases, but I'll leave that to one of the more seasoned members to explain.
 
If someone uses an old open question do defend their own, we will happily close the old one as well
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8:17 PM
@Nkosi Alright, thanks for explaining!
 
8:32 PM
So... anyone feel like taking a look at some dupes of deleted questions again?
 
@Nkosi How seasoned does one have to be if you're not sufficiently seasoned?!
 
@Dharman The question for which I posted a del-pls would only Roomba if the answer was downvoted. We very explicitly are not to be downvoting answers (or questions) just to cause the Roomba to delete questions. Please see Clean-up by downvoting? A ridiculous user experience.
The primary criteria for del-pls is that the post needs to qualify for delete-votes, or be at most one downvote away from qualifying for delete-votes. In general, if the question will Roomba, we generally just let that happen, rather than spend delete-votes on it. If I think something should be deleted, I'll usually just delete-vote it and wait a couple of days to see if the delete-votes happen organically (part of the 10k tools gives a list of recently delete-voted posts).
For questions which we close through here, I'll sometimes set a revisit for 2 or 11 days after closure and delete-vote then, depending on the question. Also depending on the question, and commonly the reason that it was closable, I may post a del-pls in here.
The overall criteria for del-pls are looser than they are for cv-pls because our impression is that we currently get fewer del-pls requests than there are delete-votes available from our members.
 
sorry, I somehow managed to post in the middle of your train there @Makyen :)
 
text-wall interruptis. :-)
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@StephenKennedy np. It's part of how chat works. :-)
 
te te te text-wall breaker
Let yee who has not broken a text wall cast the first one-box
...and feel the wrath that is to follow
 
8:51 PM
@Makyen I understand that I should not cast votes just to delete the Q, but I have so many questions I would like to see deleted that when I see a poor question with a lazy answer I do not hesitate to downvote and let it roomba. After all this is my only way of showing my disapproval.
The most frustration for me comes with question with accepted answers that have both scores < 0 e.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/51780467/login-form-php-mysql
I could waste 3 votes and still it wouldn't affect anything about this post.
This is why I am asking about the rules for del-pls, because some of them I could click the button and ask here for it to be deleted if it is not against the rules.
 
@Dharman If you are voting based on the content of the post on which you are voting, then that's fine. If you are voting for other reasons, then that's really not how up-/down-votes are intended to be used and such uses are generally forbidden, or at least strongly discouraged.
 
Unfortunately I am aware of this and I bite my teeth and move on 99% of the time.
 
9:06 PM
@Dharman The main things written on the site for what should be delete-voted are in the 10k delete-vote privilege and the 20k delete-vote privilege. The general rule of thumb about deleting is that they should be things which are causing harm (or more harm than good).
Many people feel the criteria is that it's things which are not helpful to future visitors, but it's inherently quite difficult to make determinations about what might be helpful to future visitors. Sure, somethings are easy to make that determination, but that's often not the case, and can be something where opinions can vary quite a bit.
 
9:30 PM
The question I answered is upvoted by 4 peoples when I answer that questions I only get one upvote even the answer was accepted by the question asker. stackoverflow.com/questions/57008013/…
any one plz help I am new here on stack overflow
 
@Sanaullah: welcome to the close-vote review room -- what problem are you having that requires a question be moderated?
 
@Sanaullah: And have you gone through the room's FAQ yet?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels no i did not visit FAQ
 
@Steve: it has that sort of smell, especially since it is promoting a web-site whose name matches that of the poster.
 
9:36 PM
@Sanaullah You haven't explained your solution. Stack Overflow is not about suggesting ready-made solutions, but about explaining and teaching. If you want to provide a working block of code you should also explain what you have changed and why.
 
two answers from the same user signaled by Natty in short time, with the same pattern
 
@Dharman Actually in the comment section I clear everything that the user was need
 
@Sanaullah Comments are ephemeral and are easily missed by others. Put the explanation in the answer.
 
@Dharman ok I will try to explain my answers.
@Dharman thanks for your response
 
@Sanaullah: not appropriate to ask that sort of question on this site.
 
9:49 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels sorry actually I am new here on stack overflow
 
@Sanaullah: And you will want to improve that answer since as written, it is little more than a code-dump answer, making it possibly useful to the original poster, but not useful to anyone else. Please read the How to Answer link.
 
ok I will improve my answer
 
10:13 PM
If there is a mod lurking, meta does have a flag queue as well ;)
 
10:34 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Aren't there various duplicates for that?
 
@Makyen: yes there are, but given the text of the question, my thinking was that they are likely out of date. Also, an off-site close is a stronger close than a duplicate close, since the former cannot be undone by a gold-badge member.
 
 
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11:57 PM
Can a RO remove this request. OP provided a MRE. I have since retracted my cv.
 

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