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1:22 AM
Thoughts? POB or belongs on another site?
 
2:02 AM
@Makyen may I get SD privilege for SOCVR? Thank you
 
2:17 AM
@Cœur Do you want SD privileges in Charcoal HQ also, or just SOCVR?
 
@Makyen just SOCVR is enough
 
2:44 AM
@Cœur I've added you to the privilege list for SD in SOCVR. Please run the command !!/amiprivileged to verify. It would be a good idea to read through the Feedback Guidance, SmokeDetector wiki, and SmokeDetector commands (in particular feedback).
You may also want to look at the userscripts Charcoal has available (GitHub), as the userscripts can be quite helpful, depending on how you want to participate. Personally, I primarily use AIM and FIRE.
\o/
 
Thank you.
 
 
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4:50 AM
Do we treat questions with answers on an other SE site as dupes? stackoverflow.com/questions/57068633/… - see the Q in my comment.
 
@tink No. If they're on-topic here that's all that matters.
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6:18 AM
Morning \o
 
6:50 AM
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7:24 AM
@ErikA that falls under Shog's "official download location" IMO
 
@Adriaan Wut? It's a which package can I use for this, not where do I download this. See the answer
 
@ErikA then the answer does not answer truly, see the question: The only package I am currently missing is the pdfinfo package and it seems to be hard to find. Is this package somewhere available? Sounds like an official download location request to me
 
@Adriaan Well, it's asking where to download a linux package, but for MacOS. That's asking for an equivalent package imo, thus off-topic. Anyway, it does not meet that criterium purely because it apparently does attract answers promoting competing packages.
 
7:41 AM
@ErikA where in the question do you read they are asking for an equivalent package? Again: all the question is asking where they can download pdfinfo for MacOS. Whether the answers then turn into a tool recommendation fest is not the fault of the question. The question as is is NOT asking for anything other than an official download location and thus IMO qualifies for the Shog criteria. If the answers go tool-rec, by all means flag and downvote them if you want, but the question itself is OK.
 
@Adriaan It's like asking where can I download Microsoft Office for Linux?. You could say the question is based on an invalid premise so should be closed as unclear as well, I'm fine with that, but I think this close reason is more applicable.
 
If pdfinfo is not available for MacOS, the answer should be "You can't", which is what the answer seems to be doing. In addition to saying they can't, they give an alternative
@ErikA also that would not be inherently off-topic, just "No this is not possible", which is a perfectly valid answer for SO
 
@EJoshuaS I didn't use any tutorials to learn JavaScript, so I don't have any good links for ones which I've actually used and vetted. However, I've heard people say they liked MDN's tutorials.
Most of my learning of JavaScript was through first making small changes to some projects where it wasn't doing things the way I wanted, then digging in and working on larger projects, mostly just due to wanting things to work better (e.g. there was a bug I didn't like, a feature I wanted to see, etc.). My earlier larger projects were Firefox extensions, but the ones I actually released were prior to WebExtensions.
As to learning materials I used, I mostly read (and later contributed to) the reference documentation on MDN for JavaScript/HTML/CSS, etc. (there are several sections). When I have questions, I'll still routinely do a search on Google for "MDN [thing I'm interested in]", and have many pages bookmarked for reference.
 
Well, then let's close it as off-topic -> Super User if you don't think it's a resource request. That applies as well, it's just a command-line utility and questions where to download those don't belong here for that reason as well
 
8:06 AM
^Helpful of someone to edit out the spam link, flagged for the wrong reason (R/A) because of that 😒
That'll trip up others in audits as well I think
 
@MichaelDodd left them a comment not to do that
 
@Adriaan Yeah I've pinged them in a chatroom as well
 
8:41 AM
Room query: is this question about Kinect not showing as a display device on-topic? stackoverflow.com/questions/57071221/…
It feels a bit borderline.
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mornin' folks
 
Mooin'
 
is there any meta post about code translation?
 
@double-beep this do?
 
8:44 AM
@NickA thanks
 
np, it's one of the ones in my list of useful meta posts
 
@halfer The issue looks to be more of a fit for SU, as it needs to be solved in terms of 'general hardware/software'. That the issue is only a problem when trying to programmatically access the device isn't relevant here IMO
 
VtR'd it BTW, appears to be better than the dupe
 
@Adriaan Yeah, I think I agree - thanks
 
9:26 AM
Very tempted to change my avatar to Bob Ross
 
I'd be behind that idea
 
my current facial state is very Bob Ross-esque, big hair and halfway towards a full beard.
 
@MichaelDodd the left or right half?
 
@Adriaan lower :P
 
Why not just put Bob Ross's hair and beard on Mei :P
 
9:29 AM
I just googled Bob Ross :)
 
@Shree Google Leo Sayer while you're at it, I'm probably a closer lookalike to him
@NickA Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done :P
 
spoiler: bad pun coming: This is probably the closest thing trey resembles
 
@treyBake not something like this?
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@NickA I wish, that resembles the more popular of my kin. I'm just a humble trey :p
 
Why was that migrated and not just burned with fire
 
9:39 AM
ok, migration rejected
 
9:51 AM
@NickA Because to get the full value of joy you must have someone to divide it with ;)
Just went to read about the migration process meta.stackexchange.com/a/10250
 
10:35 AM
Holding off for a third answer before flagging though, left a comment for now
Heh, someone else kicked off the process so time to jump on board I guess
 
@MichaelDodd o|
 
@Vega I went VLQ as well. No obvious connection from this side. I also have not clicked the link.
 
You guys use VLQ? ;o, I just slapped it with NAA
 
@NickA yeah, to avoid tears if the user edits their answer to make it not link-only.
 
10:51 AM
@Nkosi Thank you!
 
threw in a del-vote for good measure
 
 
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@MichaelDodd not sure, one of those how can I question that I like... is it messing with dupe search? (it's not too broad, the answer fits well in answer box)
 
@PetterFriberg It's not likely to be of help to others in the future except those that want that specific design, and not particularly searchable either (unless you're using image search). It boils down to "How do I make this button? [image]"
Also no prior effort which is a no-no from me
 
I'm not sure why anyone would want that specific design...
 
ok, yeah tons of question about creating custom buttons on SO...
 
@NickA Maybe it collapses into an XBOX ring?
 
1:21 PM
@NickA in general code on creating custom buttons can be interesting ;)... hence it would not be helpful to other users to delete it... but yeah so many questions already...
 
@PetterFriberg Sure.... but it's still an ugly button :P
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, it can be, but this particular question was just a requirements dump that wasn't easily searchable or distinguishable
 
1:46 PM
 
@Cœur Bleh. Thanks for catching that
I'm sure the 3 people who read it were confused :P
 
@Machavity I'm dyslexic and it took me a few reads before I realized the difference.
 
2:09 PM
 
^My CV disappeared from the list, again :( stackoverflow.com/q/57077660/5468463
 
@Vega You didn't CV it
The timeline (and indeed post) lists all 5: Cris Luengo, Reactgular, Michael Doye, Valentino, gnat
 
Oof, opened up the UX research thread on Meta and it's already at -18 :-/
 
2:14 PM
I saw it at -1
 
@double-beep you early adopter, you
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I had also seen that Shog's post about MCVE -> min-reprex when it had positive score!!
 
I saw the draft version
 
Hmm.. That happened to me previously, either server connection is lost when I CV, but the browser shows "CV"ed to me, either I am losing my mind :( I hope the first
 
or it's your glasses' fault ;)
 
2:20 PM
!!/blame
 
@Nkosi It's dbc's fault.
 
Poor dbc, can't even defend themselves
 
@double-beep I like that idea, time to get rid of them ;)
 
!!/blame᠎ ‌‌⁣⁠​
 
@double-beep It's glasses's fault.
 
2:21 PM
@Vega even SD ^ says that.
 
Hahahahaha, excellent
 
no way. lol
I call shenanigans.
 
2:58 PM
 
@Nkosi have you shenanigans' number?
 
:P
 
3:29 PM
 
Rant: Why continue to practice poor design principles and then expect SO to work miracles.
 
what? is SO not a coding service? :p
 
lol
 
3:47 PM
what close reason should this be under? I guess too broad but feels like I can go further ..
 
Unclear IMO
 
I mean, it feels clear. They want to install PHPStorm and use the built-in webserver, but.. that feels like a question for them [jetbeans] rather than SO
but.. I'll trust your judgement :) thank you :)
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Then they should install it and use the built in webserver, what's the problem? :P
 
right^^ xD
 
@NickA "but.. I'll trust your judgement :) thank you :)" you should print that out Nick and frame it! :P
 
4:00 PM
Yesterday my colleagues were saying "Nick thinks in hexadecimal"... this in comparison is rather pleasant :)
 
Beats what my colleague got, he "thinks in potato"
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4:27 PM
@NickA Portal reference?
 
 
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5:42 PM
 
6:13 PM
Shake the device ?? Is that a thing?
 
Morning owl, errh, all /o
@rene - I think that might fall into the category of "percussive maintenance"? =D
 
@rene could be, if the device is a smartphone I imagine it has an accelerometer in it
o/
we might need to ask a teenager
 
Zoe
You rang?
 
6:25 PM
Better find a teenager who knows about continuous deployment, since I think that was the point of the question. No idea what shaking would have to do with that.
 
Not sure if answer is serious. I think it's serious.
 
Zoe
@rene React uses the accelerometer to open dev settings, so yeah, that's actually a thing
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oh, wow. ok.
 
@Makyen Yeah, those look like tutorials where I can learn quick. Thanks.
 
Zoe
For non-accelerometer devices, who knows? It's Facebook, maybe they have a pseudo-accelerometer and the device explodes with data leaking out on the floor.
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6:27 PM
LOL
 
@Zoe wow ...
 
I flagged for a mod to take a look and linked all 6 copy answers
 
Is it promoting their own site?
 
6:35 PM
I’m not sure.
Yeah, not sure whether to send them all to SD as spam or not.
 
Doesn't... look like it, but it's dicey either way. Definitely not in the spirit of SO, since if the questions all had the same answer they should have been dupes
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I agree
It’s highly questionable whether that’s even an answer... it has a tiny bit of information, but is otherwise little more than a link.
It’s definitely not a troll account, though - they have legitimate content too
 
They're theoretically fixable if the author wanted to extract some of the code from the links. I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt and say it's a misunderstanding rather than an attempt to get easy rep, but it still should be handed off to mods imo
 
7:06 PM
 
7:38 PM
If anyone here also uses Wikipedia and would like a Stack Overflow userbox on their user page, your wish is my command
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@StephenKennedy Nice
 
FR: point it to my chat profile instead
 
@StephenKennedy What an impressive user page, wow :)
 
Zoe
Lol, 100% of my messages in this room so far today were starred XD
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Wait, you also have a dog?
 
7:48 PM
@JohnDvorak That's a good idea, but I'd like to offer you the opportunity to do it yourself :) am about to cook dinner
 
@Zoe That can be fixed if you like :-)
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Zoe
@TylerH No thanks. :D
 
@Vega That's me topped up with compliments - I'll survive another week, thank you Vega :)
 
@Vega do you know Vega is a chess pairing program used by FIDE?
 
7:52 PM
@Vega me?
 
@StephenKennedy Yes, I thought you had a cat
@double-beep Now I do :)
 
this was the first thing which came to my mind when I saw your username
 
@Vega I used to have a dog but she passed away (at a good age). Wonders how Vega knows this
 
@double-beep I choose that name because I wanted it to be a star name, I mean a real star in the sky :) A reminiscent from an old job aspiration
 
Zoe
What a starry sky it is tonight!
 
7:55 PM
@StephenKennedy She looked cute and nice, so sorry :(
 
@Vega Yeah she was. She used to love riding in the car with me, and her favourite trip was to the beach so she could chase a ball and bark at the waves :)
 
Should this be VTC as Unclear?
 
@SecretAgentMan That's Too Broad/Unclear/Offsite Resources, take your pick.
 
ty @JimGarrison
 
@double-beep There is a on SO
@StephenKennedy I would love having a dog like that...
 
8:00 PM
@Vega there's a on SO
 
@double-beep Don't forget
 
rushes to meta to ask for burnination
@double-beep Your username reminds me of Roadrunner :)
 
@Vega ban plz:
 
@StephenKennedy sorry, but here is what I am seeing
 
8:19 PM
@double-beep I meant the one in the cartoon with the coyote, it made "beep-beep"
 
I am out of CVs, sorry :(
 
9:15 PM
@PatrickHofman Yes, I'd say so. Questions asking for best practices are POB
 
9:40 PM
This is new. A No Longer Needed flag declined for a comment which has been deleted anyway.
 
@E_net4isoutofcommentflags Probably two(or more) different flags from two (or more) users handled by two different mods?
 
Unless you're specifically talking about NLN flags being new with this, I had a similar thing just the other day. A Rude comment flag of mine was declined, but the comment was deleted at the same time.
 
@IronFlare That is more common, though. The mod who handled the flag might not have found the comment to be rude enough to merit that kind of flag (and yet agree on its deletion).
@Vega Oh, right. That again. :(
 
Mods seem to have got stricter with comment flags (let's blame Jean)
It used to be in my experience almost unheard of to have a comment flag declined (I remember you having some very dubious declines otoh @E_net4isoutofcommentflags)
 
@E_net4isoutofcommentflags Ah, that makes sense. A question I found on Meta seemed to agree with that sentiment. I just wasn't sure if you meant comment flag declines in general, or specifically the No Longer Needed flag.
 
9:48 PM
@StephenKennedy Hasn't he been pushing towards considering more (specific) kinds of comments offensive, rather than the opposite?
@StephenKennedy Hmm, right. The series of "crazy monsters in the hallmark of cowards".
 
@E_net4isoutofcommentflags oh idk, I only blamed JFF because he's SOCVR alumni :)
 
@StephenKennedy :)
 
10:10 PM
are we going sd f on that one?
 
10:23 PM
^ is that more "too broad" or more "opinion-based"?
 
@IronFlare Opinion based I guess, but I saw what was needed to remedy the problem as being too broad.
@StephenKennedy I actually went spam with that one, but we'll see how the mods deal with it
Because of the soliciting that is
 
10:44 PM
ok got shot down
 
lol. he who dares...
 
lol
try, try, and try again is the cry.
 
11:03 PM
@Nkosi it's deleted. mod deletion not as spam?
 
@StephenKennedy nope. mod deleted and declined moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it`
no worries.
 

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