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4:06 AM
@StephenRauch Lol, I just found that one on my own :D
 
user10957435
Actually, you may be responding to my flag. That's a weird feeling...
 
user10957435
4:23 AM
Would this question be off topic? If so, what's the best close reason? stackoverflow.com/review/triage/23494595 I'm thinking blatantly off topic, since it doesn't relate to programming directly, but it does talk about a programming tool, so...
 
@Chipster blantantly off-topic — close reason: Belongs on another site. SuperUser I guess
 
user10957435
@sideshowbarker So my reason should be blatant, then?
 
@Chipster Well maybe “blatant” is overstating it. The editor is a programming tool, but that question really isn’t specific to anything about using it as a programming tool. Instead it’s just a general tool-UI thing. I guess there might be similar existing SO questions about things in the, say, the Eclipse UI. But that wouldn’t make those a good precedent.
 
user10957435
@sideshowbarker That's why you say maybe SuperUser, because they answer UI things? The tough part for me is that it feels like it belongs closed, but it's just barely close enough to on-topic to not necessarily perfectly fit in any particular close reason.
 
4:39 AM
@Chipster yeah I guess others might disagree. But personally in cases like this I just go ahead and close-vote them and don’t ever look back. If others agree and it gets enough votes, great. If it doesn’t, then I guess I was wrong (or at least no in line with the consensus)
 
@Chipster If you're not sure if it should be closed, or unsure why it should be closed, then you can, and should, just "Skip" the review.
 
ah yeah
 
@Nkosi "Are you able to edit it into shape?" -- no, not really. And I see it's gotten 3 more close votes, meaning enough people here found it and agree with me. So here it is: stackoverflow.com/q/3513768 it needs only one more CV.
 
agreed about using Skip
 
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@Makyen Yeah. I already skipped it a bit ago. I just wanted to know how to handle it, in case I ever reach a similar situation again, or something.
 
4:41 AM
(personally these days I have permanently pressed the Skip button entirely and never do any reviews any longer — due to how bad the audit system is about false positives for audit failures.)
 
@Chipster It's a good thing to be asking. I did not mean to imply that you shouldn't do so. Learning is important. We all are never done learning.
 
user10957435
The funny thing is that after dong enough triage, I can kind of tell an audit from an actual question. Most audits are like so blatantly spam that only someone really bad (and I mean really bad) at reviews wouldn't catch it. Nothing else seems to be an "audit" that I've gotten.
 
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@Makyen Okay, good. Yeah, I'm just trying to learn to be a better reviewer. I guess the lesson here is just skip stuff like that.
 
@Chipster yeah I just got tired of playing that guessing game. But even when I did do reviews, I pressed the Skip button 9 times out of 10
 
@Chipster As the the question itself: it's arguably on-topic, due to being a programming tool. Even the specific task they are asking about is at least related to something programmers routinely use: GitHub. Personally, I wouldn't vote to close it.
 
user10957435
4:46 AM
@sideshowbarker I don't blame you.
 
user10957435
@Makyen Okay. Then I'll just leave it alone and let someone else play with it. Or maybe it will just sit there, probably unanswered until someone is brave enough to finally try answering...
 
5:45 AM
@Makyen I would agree but that is what the current script does, if they tried with something like notepad.exe it would work. The issue is with how firefox.exe now executes which is a different problem imo. If firefox.exe spawns child processes then closes they might have to try detecting when the child process close which would be a completely different script to the one provided in the question.
 
5:58 AM
@Lankymart I agree that it's a different problem than what is currently implemented (which is the point of the question). On Windows it may be too broad (I don't know). I'd figured the cause probably was what you describe: Firefox spawning at least one child and then closing. I agree it would require a different approach. I'm not sure about an implementation on Windows, but, IMO, implementing detection of the termination of all spawned child processes wouldn't be too broad in most Unix variants.
 
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Would it be correct to say that this question has some kind of primary opinion request?
 
@Vega well, it sure is a nice ad. I'm not thrilled by it but I would say that asking if a toolstack X does implement Y is kind of on-topic. It can be answerd objectively (even with simply yes or no) so I don't think it is opinion based. And who am I to judge its usefulness with that many views ...
 
6:17 AM
@rene You are right! Thank you :)
 
@Makyen Fair enough.
 
7:08 AM
Morning \o
 
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Guys, anyone know if there is a way to recover a deleted tweet on twitter?
 
@Sami as far as I'm aware, no, though I'm sure Trump has asked them directly at some point
 
@MichaelDodd I hate that, no edit, no way to rollback :(
I don't think even the archive will contains deleted tweets (by mistake)
 
8:04 AM
@treyBake Could it be also No repro, based on the answer? I don't have any knowledge of php, though
 
not sure to be honest, did a quick skim-read .. could potentially be if OP confirms that to be the solution
 
8:21 AM
I'd say no, tis all in all a bad answer
 
It could be worse, sans attributions and hard to be detected. Also, regex is not easy to explain
 
The question is the problem imo, if it's a duplicate of 3 separate question it invites answers like that
I'd del-pls if it had enough downvotes
Oh, owner deleted the answer now
 
crowd goes wild :)
 
Anyone here has a score of >5 on ? There's a new tag, , and it's attracting answers fast enough to warrant being a synonym imo
Else I'd just need to bring it to meta. The odd thing is I can't track down who created it
 
Would be better as the synonym? Seems googling BigQuery only comes up with that..
 
8:36 AM
The tag was just created today, I'm not about to rename it just because someone accidentally created a copy tag
 
I mean renaming (or merging) google-bigquery -> just bigquery. It's not like we call it oracle-mysql
 
Yeah, but we'd just do that because someone mistakenly created the tag. If the BigQuery community wanted to rename their tag, I'd be fine with it, but it seems like a strange reason to discuss this
 
@ErikA where can we find when a tag was creaeted? There's only 4 questions from today, granted, but 111 watchers
 
more of a passing thought than anything, felt weird to say to me :)
 
@Makyen I'm surprised since when do we call individuals out who make cv-pls requests?
 
8:45 AM
@Adriaan Watcher stats = weird. I think it counts if you follow [bigquery] for all bigquery related tags, I've encountered 0 question newly created tags with lots 'o watchers
We can check when the excerpt is created, but not the tag, afaik, and it doesn't have one
 
@Makyen I must have missed this?? "The significant majority of people participating felt this question was on-topic on Stack Overflow. Lankymart was the vocal minority and feels this question is off-topic, or too broad.". Where was this "significant majority of people participating" you mention? You mean yourself and @TylerH? Was this comment really necessary?
 
9:00 AM
@Lankymart I see three participants ... two thirds see it as appropriate. In my humble opinion that's a majority ;) As for the necessity of the comment .... I'll leave that to other parties involved. You may want to separate the issues, though?
 
@tink It's misleading, suggests a whole bunch of members of the SO Close Vote Reviewers room disagreed with me, maybe they do but I only saw two people to had objections which I took the time to discuss with them.
 
9:32 AM
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12:16 PM
@PatrickHofman I went with unclear.
 
@rene That would be good too.
 
12:42 PM
@Lankymart just FYI, I brought it up in our backroom. Please allow for 6 to 8 something to have this discussed within the RO team.
 
please response help wanter copmuter people
 
@E_net4theClose-voter Which copper do you want me to mute?
 
@Zoe quick hide the .......What do we need hidden? :P
 
@ErikA cop. i want mute cop. please response help
 
@E_net4theClose-voter I'm not sure how helpful a mute police officer would be, how would they de-escalate?
 
12:48 PM
@rene I've been moderating on SOCVR for a while now, first time I've ever had someone from the room actively call me out in a comment about a moderation request.
 
Zoe
@Nkosi HIDE THE FLOWER! QUICK, BEFORE SOMEONE TRAMPLES IT!
 
They would need to be able to focus on it first. :P
 
@Lankymart I assume good intent. We can differ on opinion in how that good intent was communicated
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As someone commented in SOCVR: "I assume good intent. We can differ on opinion in how that good intent was communicated." That. — Patrick Hofman 45 secs ago
 
@E_net4theClose-voter Yes, indeed.
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12:55 PM
@PatrickHofman :>
 
 
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4:03 PM
@Lankymart I've posted an answer to your question on Meta about my comment on main. Given that you posted a question on Meta, I feel it's more appropriate for at least the majority of discussion to be there. I believe my answer addresses the issues you bring up here and there.
However, I would like to apologize again here that you were hurt by my comment on main. It was not my intent that my comment would be negative towards you.
 
4:16 PM
@Makyen appreciate that, thank you.
 
@treyBake It's confirmed
 
@treyBake Follow the arrows, Luke
(altho tbf I followed the arrows and I don't know what it refers to either :))
 
Geez, Vega was clearly confirming that this is no repro
 
^
 
4:29 PM
And the penny drops!!! :D well, awesome. Another Q closed ^.^
 
That said, quality meme content right there
 
Too much PHP in the answer for me to understand that meant no repro, sorry
tl;dr Too much PHP
 
5:33 PM
@StephenKennedy "Too much PHP" should be a close reason.
 
Why does this have activity? stackoverflow.com/q/294989/5292302, I can't find anything in timeline... what the heck I'm missing?
 
@Petter answer was edited 3 hours ago?
 
aah VonC edit... darn that's a long time after my comment :D
interesting that he takes time to go back and check old answer...
yeah he got a comment on it... that's why
 
6:26 PM
@Dharman something is missing?
 
6:38 PM
@Dharman I've binned those 2 messages as it is unclear what you want us to do with them. You can retry them but if you do please either use the agreed *-pls formatting or gives us enough context to help you out.
It could be it was just a formatting issue
 
@rene There are 4 reopen votes on this question, because after it was put on hold OP has added his MCVE. If the question is reopened then it should be re-closed as a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/q/12859942
My point, sorry for being unclear, was that I do not want to cast reopen vote, if I need to cast the duplicate close vote again. If someone would be willing to hammer it as a duplicate then I do not need to push it into close queue again.
 
Just post a re-open-pls for the question that needs re-open votes
waffles
 
Thanks, done.
 
6:56 PM
OK, did someone update a userscript or did Stack Overflow just add bold highlighting to unread messages in the notification center
 
yes
 
@TylerH yup.... there was a notification in there that disappeared after a few times... it looks, err, odd
 
7:16 PM
@BhargavRao are you sure this is an attempt at answering and not a question?
 
Eh, it kinda seems like they've come to a work around and wants to share it ... so tried to get the answer out of the fluff. I didn't decline any flags, though.
I didn't see a calculate before save anywhere else on the post, so I thought it'd make sense to rescue it
 
@JonClements odd is not a font-style...
 
7:40 PM
@rene ahh... this could be where I've been going wrong for so long... sighs
 
I bold you so ...
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@StephenKennedy I couldn't even bring myself to groan at that one :p
 
Zoe
@rene I think we need to underline the confusion this boldness caused. you're usually blurry!
 
true
 
8:08 PM
Morning all ... /o
Can someone please point me at the monkey script for cv-pls? After 2 years of happily using ubuntu's google-chrome-unstable it started crashing all the time yesterday, and after a few hours of futile attempts to fix it I decided to try -stable ... now all my plugins and such are missing ...
 
@tink socvr.org has a tools page which links many of the scripts. There's the release version of the Request Generator (GitHub) (install). There's also the alpha version, which is recommended.
 
Cheers @PetterFriberg and @Makyen =}
 
8:21 PM
Nice @Makyen - I like the alpha =}
 
8:42 PM
@tink Thanks. I like the additional feature too.
 
Dangit. I keep getting distracted waiting for the script to pick up freshly closed questions
Stephen and Makyen always beat me to the archive punch...
@jps Hi jps, is this your first visit to the room?
Typically, we require questions to have recent activity to qualify for a here. We do have some exceptions, like if a question is being used as a reason to keep other, similar questions open, etc. Is that the case here?
You can read more about expectations here: socvr.org/faq#GEfM-cv-pls-not-a-habit
@sideshowbarker Is that self-find by OP worth an answer, then? or is it something not likely to be encountered by others?
 
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@TylerH Ironically, I routinely feel other ROs, including you, beat me to the punch :-), particularly when I take the time to go through and vote on those that already have 4 CV.
 
@sideshowbarker NVM, just realized what it said. Effectively like turning off your computer before you save a file and then complaining it didn't save your stuff. Carry on!
@Makyen heh, I appreciate the functionality of the URRS on searches for cv-pls for that reason.
I make it a point to go through those before running the scan
 
@TylerH Same here. :-)
 
jps
10:18 PM
@TylerH sorry, made a mistake with that link, can you please delete that request and don't cv on that question. And no, I'm here frequently. I'll post the right cv-pls right now:
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (by request to @TylerH)
 
jps
thanks Stephen
 
you're welcome
@Makyen Excuses, excuses. You're just too slow! :)
 

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