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12:02 AM
and now I have to listen to Wandering Star - but that's no great hardship
 
 
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2:18 AM
@sideshowbarker That one sounds quite a bit more like they had just made a mistake and originally put wrong contents for one file in the question, which has been corrected in the question, but they still have the problem and the question now reflects what is on their system, rather than they had wrong info on their system and correcting it solved the problem. I've left a comment asking which it is, but their comment doesn't currently look like it makes it typo/no-repo to me.
 
@Makyen ah OK
/me re-reads the question and comments
@Makyen oofs yes you’re right. Thanks for heads-up. I’ll retract the close vote. (And will be more careful)
 
@sideshowbarker np. It happens to all of us. Do you want me to bin the request?
 
Yes please bin it
Thanks much!
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
np. I happy to do that anytime.
 
cheers
 
2:22 AM
:-)
 
 
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6:58 AM
 
@tripleee Good to see a high rep user post a CW answer on it instead of closevoting
 
7:45 AM
Why does this question have 3 upvotes?
 
@Lino please do not post borderline unfriendly comments. Either refrain from commenting at all, or leave a constructive comment, see mine for an example.
 
@Adriaan I usually hit the mark with such comments, I don't mean unfriendly, but pointing out the flaws of the question, e.g. with this one, there is no question. But you're right, this one was too harsh. I've removed it, no point to improve it, yours is informative enough
 
^ question is off-topic too but I manually reported it so not sure if I'm allowed to cv-pls
 
@tripleee ^ What's the immediate connection between OP and product? Especially on an answer from 2015
PC World is a valid tech site as far as I'm aware, question deserves to be closed yes but not convinced it's spam
Wait found it
ok that's valid then
 
8:03 AM
@MichaelDodd yeah, they went on what looks like a spamming spree on Android just now
 
@tripleee Cheers, probably best leaving a comment on old posts in future, or with the report. Took me a while to find out why I should flag it.
 
@MichaelDodd mm yeah, sorry for missing the context
 
8:19 AM
 
@Shree ^ Why is that one spam and not NAA?
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Shree
@SmokeDetector Sorry my mistake.
 
Ah no worries :)
 
@MichaelDodd I play with Advance Flag US and made some change. Try to give feed back from 10k tools . My change send feed back to Smokey as spam :( . It's bug from my side.
 
8:31 AM
^ What about the self answer?
 
@Lino Bad but still an answer IMO. Think it's misguided rather than spam
 
It's VLQ imo -> just a link + some unclear explanation
 
Morning all
 
o/
 
\o
 
8:35 AM
o/
 
9:33 AM
 
9:58 AM
stackoverflow.com/q/56235544/5211833 can anyone establish whether pointing the OP here to Code Review is a good idea? Basically they have a working version in parallel, but it is slower than the serial version, and want to ask how to speed it up. Speeding up existing code is what CR is for iirc
 
@Adriaan this is a borderline one. It is working code, but nit working as intended...
 
@Luuklag I think it is, as they do not complain about the results, just about speed. Anyhow, I left them a second comment; I think their experiment is simply wrong (should've started the pool before timing)
 
@Adriaan I would expect some more substance, like it runs 5.1 seconds, I tried x now it runs 8.3 seconds. I expected it to be around 2 seconds due to paralelism
 
@rene thanks; so just a Too broad vote, coupled with my comments?
 
@Adriaan possible, yes. I will not vote as I don't consider myself enough expert to judge.
 
10:09 AM
@Adriaan 100% spam history on MS
 
it is. flagged as such
@MichaelDodd one post? ;)
 
I left the comment anyway since they have the website listed in their profile, but flagged as spam because of the domain history
 
Its spam nuked
 
Yeah they've only changed their name on SO, still the spam profile on other network sites
 
10:52 AM
@PearlySpencer why custom reason?
 
@PearlySpencer the linked duplicate has no answer though
You've mentioned that they are the same person, I can't see how you got to that. Maybe explain?
 
11:09 AM
@rene Could you post the meta post here? Seems like an interesting read
 
user8682794
@double-beep because could not be closed as a duplicate
 
@PearlySpencer it's not off-topic
 
user8682794
@Lino Nothing to explain here. The question was identical. Deleted now.
 
@rene aren't we supposed to not touch things that are on meta?
 
11:17 AM
Not sure what to about this... OP has posted similar questions, 1, 2, and I remember seeing a similar one today but can't find it.
 
@Lino mod-flag?
 
@JohnDvorak uh, oh ..., that was changed, right? &&^%
 
I remember someone saying that picking simple java files would be against the licence agreement of Oracle, which would make this kind of illegal
 
@double-beep I don't really have enough knowledge and evidence about this though
 
11:26 AM
@Lino gold badge hammered 2, we closed one
 
@double-beep oh, good that Stephen C took care of that :)
 
11:41 AM
 
@double-beep Another one, raised a mod flag now
 
12:04 PM
hmm... are questions suggesting algorithms off-topic?
e.g.:
> do you know any algorithm which can do X
 
@Lino Was about to do the same. Creating multiple accounts as well
 
was this meta OP-deleted, 20k deleted or R/A nuked?
 
@Luuklag I've raised one, still pending
 
@MichaelDodd Yeah I saw Lino raised one as well, so no need to have multiple flags on the same user.
 
@double-beep 20K
 
12:10 PM
@Luuklag AFAIK multiple flags raise priority? Though that said the modflags are being handled quite quickly atm
 
oh
that was kinda rude
I had an R/A flag raised there
 
@MichaelDodd Ah if thats true then adding one could be helfpull indeed. Also funny to see the Indian equivalent of John Doe it appears.
 
Fun note: that little reply arrow next to a question onebox is quite easy to miss
 
12:29 PM
waffles are tasty
 
with syrup
 
@Machavity voted too broad
 
Morning
 
12:30 PM
o/
 
\o
 
\o//o\
 
~o~
 
(óó)
 
12:33 PM
^o^
 
(°o°)
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I am very tempted to post a huuuuge ascii art in here :p
 
@Lino steady....
let's not get carried away now. :P
lol
 
readies bin button
 
12:36 PM
^ see what I mean
 
What about a mini ascii art ;p
 
Oh I would never do that, I am just veeeeeery tempted :P
 
or, a cv-pls request.. done through ascii art?
 
What about some Zalgo? c̫̙v̜͚̘-̩̖̝̀pl҉͇s̳̯͔̳ ͞U͍̫̮̫n̪c̺̰l̺ę̺̘͕̲̳͈a̻̪̣̣͠r̫̙͇ͅ
 
!!/blame
 
12:37 PM
@Nkosi It's tink's fault.
 
so I guess we're off the hook
 
some random thoughts characters: >>ᾦ\ᾴ{ὀὅ}ᾴ/ᾦ<< :)
 
@double-beep Please refrain from drawing rene in ASCII. Thanks
7
 
@Machavity is rene 7-bit only?
 
@Machavity oh, that was kinda blurry in the FAQ, sorry.
8
 
12:50 PM
@kayess I tried in turtle once. The result was too sharp
 
@Machavity we should send hordes of unsharp masks to him
 
Nvm
 
waffles?
 
1:13 PM
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Q: Cannot find value in [cannot-find-symbol]

MichaelI just stumbled upon the cannot-find-symbol tag. It refers to a common Java compiler error. We already have a very comprehensively answered canonical question with 750k views. There are 175 questions tagged with this and it looks like almost all of them could be closed as duplicates of that. T...

 
@Machavity Do you not have SD privs?
 
@NathanOliver experimental reasons aren't reported here
!!/report will show Post already reported
the only way is !!/report-force which will duplicate MS entries
 
@NathanOliver I do. SD just doesn't report the experimentals here. Lots of 1 scores that are FPs
 
Ah. Miseed the SD experimental
 
Here's the MS report. It caught it only because the link was the first thing in the answer
Domain is now in the watch list so it will be caught outright next time
 
1:37 PM
What does NATO mean?
 
New Answer To Old question
 
Ah, thanks
 
@Lino it's a 10k tool
 
@Machavity wrong link?
 
1:39 PM
@Luuklag Fixed. Copy didn't take the first time
 
Well Flexible Couplings: What is it and why it’s Beneficial seems like a tool too :P
 
@Machavity Ok ;)
@Machavity And also a bot feed ;)
 
@Luuklag Yeah, was flagging something on SU
 
But I usually counter them in SOBotics, where Natty flags a "did you find solution" answer.
 
Zoe
2:20 PM
What exactly is the appropriate way to handle duplicated answers? (as in answers posted on the same question that basically repeat what the other say without adding any value to the existing answers, but without plagiarism or self-reposting answers posted elsewhere)
 
@Zoe downvote and, if obliged, leave a comment saying that this has already been covered by an existing answer
 
Though we encourage different answers, don't we?
 
@Zoe If you can push them negative by yourself, and they're clearly retreads, ask for a 20k
 
@Zoe has happened to me, also raised a mod-flag saying these are duplicate answers and got declined.
 
Zoe
@Machavity What about existing ones I stumbled over when they're already at +<far too much to get to 0 or negative>?
 
2:23 PM
@Lino Different answers, yes. Answers that offer the same solution but a better explanation, yes. Answers that change some trivial part (like a variable name), no
@Zoe Downvote and comment. My experience is mods won't nuke it unless it's clearly a retread
 
Zoe
Commenting seems kinda weird if it's old
 
Got a link?
 
@Zoe Ye olde method of comparing thousth figures areth incorrect
 
Zoe
Uh, not off the top of my head. I can probably dig through my favorites and find one though. Just kinda remembered it for some reason
 
@Adriaan Readest Thine Functionality Manuscripts
 
2:32 PM
@double-beep Nice typo x1 instead of xl
 
Thine userscript doth
 
@Luuklag yeah
 
You guys already seen Julia's blogpost on the data release of the Survey
I find it funny to select all types of traits on people, to see how many there were in the survey. For example there are: 26 gay/lesbian, trans, East-Asian people with dependents
 
2:40 PM
@Zoe Actually that's the exact same code. Mods should delete that with a flag
 
Zoe
@Machavity It's also boilerplate
There's no valid flag aside a potential one for repeating answers with much lower quality, and that's the case with several others
The bigger the questions, the more frequent it is
 
@Zoe Boilerplate or not, it's less useful than the highly upvoted accepted answer. Mods would delete it if asked
 
Zoe
Is there a meta thread on this?
@MichaelDodd has a suggested edit btw
 
3:30 PM
@treyBake Just went ahead and binned
 
awesome ty^^
 
4:42 PM
So much irony.
https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/385269
Question about reopening a specific question because the reopen votes keep expiring. The question was reopened so obviously the community agreed it shouldn't have been closed as a duplicate. Highly downvoted and closed as duplicate of a question that starts "Since most people are lemmings, it often only takes 1 duplicate flag for a question to be closed as duplicate" and has no answers.
 
Meta, tis a silly place
 
How big a chain of posts asking for the previous duplicate-close to be reversed do you think I'll be able to get?
 
I voted to reopen
 
@OrangeDog Be careful. Meta is like D&D. "You try to swap dupes but roll a 1. A mob of angry meta voters closes half your questions and a CM laughs at you"
 
@OrangeDog I fixed it for you
 
4:49 PM
Do we need a meta post about ?
 
No, why?
 
Because I appear to have used it correctly, but then been downvoted and closed as duplicate.
 
The current dupe applies and has answers. So your point is moot
 
Have you read the answers? Have you read the wiki for ?
 
Yes, I did. Did you?
 
4:56 PM
Yes. The question covers what to do if there's a suggested duplicate but it hasn't ben closed yet (so it's not a duplicate). The only answer until today deals with editing your post and commenting, which I already did. The tag-wiki says if you need more views on a question to get a reopen, you should make a meta post in the tag, which I did.
I did everything as instructed, yet the community downvoted my meta post and closed it as an illogical duplicate.
Anyway, meta tis indeed a silly place
 
When you posted on Meta your question on main wasn't edited to contest the duplicate. You made a minor edit after it was initially dupe voted. That caused the re-open review to have a leave closed outcome. So you didn't apply all advice given in the current duplicate. As such you haven't exhausted all options and therefore it is appropriate to close against the FAQ post.
 
Do we flag this as spam? There is disclosure
 
@Machavity borderline
 
5:18 PM
@rene Mod flagged. Leaves a bad taste
 
@Machavity here you go
 
5:36 PM
@Machavity It'd be OK as a comment IMO, and I liked that there was disclosure. But we need to be careful SO doesn't turn into Quora, where nearly everyone is hawking something
 
@halfer Mod deleted
 
@Machavity Yeah, I saw - no probs. I was just thinking where it's borderline I might advise reposting as a comment prior to flagging. It struck me as "useful spam" (if that is possible)
 
@halfer The Q was terrible too. It all needed to go
 
now is can be del-plsed
 
Meh. Will Roomba now
 
5:50 PM
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56243837/how-to-create-text-span-over-few-columns-of-a-table

This one looks like it should be closed, but I'm fuzzy on what the reason would be.
 
OK, I'm obviously new to the chat room and don't yet know how to format a close request with the pretty gray button awk
 
@Dave hey, no worries, and welcome!
use [tag:cv-pls] for cv pls requests
 
@Dave Hi Dave
 
@Dave Check out the room tour here: socvr.org/tour (don't worry, it's one short page)
 
5:54 PM
Feel free to repost your cv-pls request here now that you have the formatting down @Dave :-)
 
<poof>
 
need small puff of smoke to go with that
 
@Dave I'll get @Makyen to add that right away
 
lol
 
6:03 PM
What's the best option on the close vote prompt for no MCVE?
 
@JoshuaWade Close -> Off-topic because ... -> pick the one with "why isn't this code working" in bold
I've already closed that one as a duplicate, though
 
ah yeah, I just saw that
 
handy dandy gold badge privileges, and all...
 
hahaha
will keep that in mind for next time, thanks!!
 
I see you have less than 3k reputation, so I realize now you actually can't vote to close things... there are very similar options for you under the "flag" link for posts, at least
 
6:06 PM
it was hidden under a sub-option that looked like a regular radio button
I found it :)
 
@JoshuaWade Yeah, if you're <3k you can always flag for closure, it's just not obvious you can do that
 
6:32 PM
F
 
H
 
Zoe
6:45 PM
I
 
@Dave External resources/recommendations is better for that one
 
oof, no reason to comment at all
 
7:05 PM
arg, why can I not have multiple data connections in this web app T_T
 
overall record: mod-flag pending since 2.5 days!
 
@double-beep Don't get too excited... when mod flags get stale they tend to be declined
I had several flags sitting unhandled for weeks/months and then after an election came and new mods got elected, I got flag banned because a new mod handled them all quickly... except it had been so long that they were all flags that no longer applied (e.g. comments or answers already deleted, or something)
 
@double-beep Back in the day, we used to have flags waiting for 45 days or so...
 
@TylerH I am pretty sure they are valid
although you are right
 
7:11 PM
Thanks for the pointer @halfer
 
np :-)
 
@halfer I have cast one on mid-March and is still pending in another SE site. I win?
 
@double-beep You do! Unless I have one so old I have forgotten about it... :=]
 
\o/
 
I only keep track of the ones on the first page of my flag page...
 
7:13 PM
I keep track of the declined ones
I have memorized all of my declined post/comments/spam/offensive flags :)
@double-beep I can do some art again, but rene will come shouting: "Why did you draw me?"
 
@dave thinkd @double-beep is scary
thinks too
 
why?
 
memorizing all of your declined post/comments/spam/offensive flags :) :)
Maybe scary wasn't the right word, weird perhaps? :)
 
oof
that's not so scary
I also remember all the sites network-wide where I have declined flags and if I see a site, I remember the type of flag that was declined and if there was a message left by a mod
 
@Dave heh heh :-)
 
7:16 PM
lol, time to make like a tree and leaf .. thanks for the help and pointers today
 
Tree seeing you, @Dave
 
I get I downvoted because uh, I'm not sure... :=)
4
 
@double-beep I downvoted because I am being reprexed!!11
 
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because.
 
7:20 PM
I downvoted because the flowers are blurry
 
I upvoted rene and now I can see sharp
 
@E_net4 nice glasses! How many miles away can you see with them?
 
@double-beep Cody miles.
Not that miles mean much to me, though. I'm European.
 
Cody-Vega Bart miles away! \o/
 
7:23 PM
...yup, let's go with that.
 
He's from Barcelona
 
Wait what.
 
@E_net4 km, I am, too :)
 
\o/
 
@StephenKennedy Que?
 
7:26 PM
So I just noticed we have ...
 
@Machavity "I downvoted because I am grumpy today" works for me
 
Zoe
@E_net4 I delv'd this 'cuz of teh reprexion.
 
Jokes on you, Youtube had an ad
so HA
 
7:36 PM
@Zoe Thanks, I love that song!
 
Zoe
@SterlingArcher jokes on you, you missed the real joke. :p
 
Sounds like me :D
 
Psst - wanna buy some Reprex?
 
Are answer undelete requests OK here? I found a case where the poster made an answer but doesn't want to keep it visible because of downvotes.
 
yeah, they are I suppose, no?
 
7:41 PM
We do undeletes
 
I can't see anything in the FAQ saying they're not allowed, so fine by me.
example format from FAQ is [tag:undel-pls] Adds value to site https://stackoverflow.com/q/12345
 
go ahead!
 
Zoe
@StephenKennedy -1, no believers
 
@Zoe No Justin Beibers? That's a relief
 
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Oh, so a 100% perfect and correct statement looks like this? [tag:undel-pls] no undeletion is content reprexion https://stackoverflow.com/q/1)
@StephenKennedy I got a Justin Jesso and a Justin Timberlake, but I wouldn't let Justin Bieber anywhere near any of my playlists
I have some standards. :p
 
7:47 PM
@Zoe no Justin Time?
 
Hmm, never mind about the undelete. The question is best closed as a duplicate or no MCVE.
 
Zoe
No, that would make an All Time Low
But I'm sure if you count the [times](https://open.spotify.com/track/3eXe8e4PrYhXUVEV48wjSF) that happened, you'd realize these are [Hard Times](https://open.spotify.com/track/0w5Bdu51Ka25Pf3hojsKHh) and say something along the lines of ["If I could turn back time"](https://open.spotify.com/track/0DoB7WmF5830ruSxMRVK9A). I'd love to see a [time lapse](https://open.spotify.com/track/3v8aPisqoGRZEwwf2rCeXQ) if you do though. That way we could have a [good time](https://open.spotify.com/track/1kPpge9JDLpcj15qgrPbYX) [every time the rain comes down](https://open.spotify.com/track/4ybO4wC4puWSWN
oof, RIP formatting
 
@Zoe your last dot is the culprit I think
 
Zoe
I know
Had to ---ab---use the newline trick to get past the 500 char limit
 
Morning all /o
 
7:59 PM
\o night
 
wrong room
 
8:17 PM
ok
\o night have to sleep
 
is it in violation of the CoC to induce a rage quit? :/
 
depends on the method of doing so
 
Yes, if you are doing so intentionally, for sure
 
Not intentionally.
 
8:29 PM
If you are unintentionally doing it, then it's much less likely to be so, at least on the first go-round
you can't be expected to know what might cause someone to rage quit
of course, if you find yourself inducing rage quits from multiple users over multiple sessions...
"if you encountered one jerk driver on the way to work, then you've encountered a jerk. If everyone you encountered on the way to work was a jerk driver, then you're the jerk"
3
or something like that
 
:s
 
I'm off for the day o/
 
\o
 
Zoe
@E_net4 Inb4 "We're staging a rage-quit until SE abolishes downvotes"
 
@Zoe ...No wait, that sounds like too good a thing.
 
Zoe
8:42 PM
On the bright side, there'd be less complaining about downvotes after the rage-quit :]
 
heh, no, there's always a new stream of users incoming with fresh new (duplicate) questions
 
Zoe
true
 
=( ... and other newbies upvoting the misguided questions :}
 
Zoe
yeah...
There's no way to "win" in the end
 
This is a real SQL error reported in a question just now:
Fatal error: Uncaught mysqli_sql_exception: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 's population and took over the six infinity stones, the path of the Avengers tea' at line 2.
 
8:49 PM
line 2 huh
 
It sounds like the database server is on (very good) drugs.
 
Zoe
Does it have the rest of The Endgame in there too?
 
M-M
The link in this stackoverflow.com/questions/16830125/… is broken. Does that make it NoMCVE? or because it asks a question, sort of, independent of the link, it is fine. Should this be edited?
 
Zoe
@M-M It's not broken.
Malformed, but not broken
 
M-M
@Zoe yeah, just realized and was about to edit that you beat me to it :D still not the best question, but ok
 
Zoe
8:58 PM
I can't tell if it should be closed though, but the link doesn't seem like a big part in that decision
 
@Zoe Perhaps it can output a sentence at a time, for every subsequent exception :=]
 
Zoe
 
It's not broken, it's pining for the fjords
 
It's pushing up the daisies.
 
Zoe
@StephenKennedy It's not a bug, it's a feature
 
9:09 PM
The path of the Avengers tea... I'd be interested in that tea.
unless it contains an actual black widow
 
9:23 PM
@Zoe I thought it was 9 below Shog
 
Zoe
@Machavity nah, shog9 is actually shog^9, so Shog0 is actually 1.
 
9:43 PM
@Zoe =D
 
Zoe
9:59 PM
;D
 
Poor old Shog. He might have been Torvalds-style blunt for some years, but reading the Reprex post, I feel genuinely sorry for him. Some of the persistent passive-aggressive meanness in the replies is awful, even by usual Meta standards.
I know the natives are grumpy, but... urgh.
 

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