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2:09 AM
 
2:24 AM
Hey all :)
One time you get ban from ask it is very hard to get unban :(
 
@AmadeuAntunes: true, but usually folks get plenty of advanced warning that they're at risk. The smart ones would put that knowledge to good use and avoid asking questions that push them further into the ban
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm with this ban very long time, and I'm doing everything to get unban but still hard
 
@AmadeuAntunes: I wish you much luck and success in getting out
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels My luck is that I can use the Stack in Portuguese for questions for now
 
@AmadeuAntunes fair enough. Myself, I rarely ask questions on the site, since most of my questions are well answered by exhaustive searching of the site for similar problems. I think that this is the best use and the main intended use of the site, but most new folks don't know this.
So even if you can't ask questions, the site remains quite useful
 
2:39 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels One thing that is not much welcome is when there are a new user people just negative the question and don't exactly explain why, what I do is ask more info in commentary section first for then can vote
 
@AmadeuAntunes: the site can be harsh on newbies, but on the other hand, I've seen many newbies thrive, although it takes effort
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels But all depends of SO website, for exemple in SOPortuguese I feel people is more tolerant there
 
@AmadeuAntunes: likely true, but that site does not have the volume of traffic and the shear volume of low-quality posts that this site has.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels tes I agree
 
 
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6:40 AM
@tripleee I'm not sure "How to install dsbulk on mac" is off-topic. Seems to be a question about a programming tool (even if it is rather basic I would think)
 
@mason my thinking here is that any actually helpful answer would start with "make sure it's plugged into the wall" which makes it too broad and/or General Computing
 
7:43 AM
@rene chinese?, grace period edit?
 
8:31 AM
o/
 
\o
 
Morning all \o
 
Would you consider this question as too broad ? stackoverflow.com/q/54275909/5468463
 
8:48 AM
@Vega It boils down to "I don't understand the documentation", but I don't really know enough about Angular to make a call on that one
 
@Vega why not dupe of the question you linked?
 
@PetterFriberg Oh, right! Thank you!
@MichaelDodd Thank you! :)
 
@MikeM. Went with the dupe on that one
 
@MichaelDodd That'll work, too. I tend to avoid hammering with that dupe, so I didn't even think to list it in in request.
 
9:02 AM
@MikeM. Yeah, normally NPE is the super-dupe, but in this case it was just "It's crashed, why?"
 
9:17 AM
Mornin o/
 
\o
Same answer linking to same site on two questions. Now spam?
On second thoughts, no, they don't have any connection to the site.
Just a misguided new user
 
@MichaelDodd I agree on that. The site is well known and they try to be helpful. But what surprises me that both questions are similar (to mcve), they weren't received at the same way. I will VTC duplicate the second to the first and the VTC no MCVE or no repro for the second (they commented a line angular.json file, the reason for the error)
 
@Vega Sounds sensible, done as well
 
@MichaelDodd :)
 
 
1 hour later…
@Shree OT I think
 
11:09 AM
Are nginx configuration questions on-topic? stackoverflow.com/q/54209962/1233251
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays As far as I know not for SO, but possibly for SU or SF
 
11:57 AM
TIL it's fine to call people crazy. Totally not against the CoC. :+1:
 
@E_net4wisheshappyholidays Not according to me. Did you have a flag declined?
 
12:27 PM
@StephenKennedy Yes.
 
@SmokeDetector Answer seems otherwise valid without the link. Should this be treated as spam due to the domain's history, or edited out?
Domain has been validly blacklisted though, lots of previous self-promotion
Yes, user's profile lists that site. Flagging spam
 
@MichaelDodd I somewhat hesitantly ended up flagging as spam
 
> Web Developer at compitionpoint
no prior positive contrib history.
so yeah I'll flag as spam too
 
1:29 PM
Morning
 
1:50 PM
*facepalm* When an OP provides information completely unrelated to what you've asked for...
And then completely change the error output...
Sorry, I'll stop ranting now
 
@MichaelDodd This reminds me of a song... :)
 
@SmokeDetector n - on second thoughts, misguided user rather than deliberate spam
 
@MichaelDodd You're Smoke Detector now (according to Metasmoke)
 
@StephenKennedy "I am the law"
 
I fought the law, and the law won
 
2:04 PM
No one can fight the long arm of the law closure
 
@StephenKennedy I think comments are attributed only when the commenting user also has a Metasmoke account
you should see how many commits SmokeDetector has made to its own Github repository
talk about self-modifying code
 
@PetterFriberg maybe they like to user jasper-server in mobile interface.. but yeah they need to clarify question, make it more a direct question.
 
2:30 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels You would have to think the answerer knows that has been answered before :(
 
waffle
 
I love waffles
3
 
me too.
 
I actually read the rep wrong I first saw 113... :D
 
2:34 PM
it's jasper-reports, but since java lib, hence java syntax I think that dupe is fine
 
I hope so
answerer's rep 133k
 
yeah I saw after... looking at answer I assumed 133 first... hence my comment
 
I kind of get youngsters that want to contribute and see a question they can answer... hence not marking as dupe is not a big issue, however....
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman MCVE added - req can possibly be binned now
 
User disputing a closure, do my counter-arguments seem ok? - stackoverflow.com/questions/54291882/…
 
@MichaelDodd seems fine to me
although it's really a matter of 3rd party company policy rather than law
e.g. 'we are not your favorite company's customer support'
 
@TylerH True. Though still stand by original meaning as it's within the ream of privacy concerns
 
3:28 PM
I dunno, "only if the user consents" seems to do away with any legal concerns IMO. At that point it's only a technical question of possibility or a company policy (e.g. app store agreements). But yeah the Q can be closed any of 4 different ways... I don't view this one as salvageable.
 
@TylerH Yep... All good. @Machavity can be binned now.
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Done
 
4:06 PM
in HTML / CSS / WebDesign, 1 min ago, by TylerH
Do you play with NathanOliver and Machavity and gunr?
hmu if y'all need a Pybro with high ping
Back to your regular review schedule
 
cc @NathanOliver @Machavity see above
 
@BoltClock I think Nathan plays a pyro. I've been more active in Overwatch of late, but I still TF2 on occasion
 
@BoltClock Sure. We normally play once or twice a week. Normally it would be after 5 pm central time. You can find me on steam with the same name as I use here. I have the same avatar as well should it should be easy to find.
 
I'm usually active around midnight central time, that'll be my afternoons
 
I'm usually radio active ....
 
4:18 PM
Ah. Might be able to do that on the weekends but that's past my bedtime on week nights.
@rene You know I was just about to comment that you had this glow about you I hadn't noticed before. Did someone transplant you next to a nuclear reactor? Was it the elephant? He said he has one in his back yard.
 
I'm close to Doel 2 ...
 
I was thinking it was a new fertilizer or something making his petals glow...
 
 
4:56 PM
@Vickel OP seems to be responding to requests for clarification; no need to close yet
 
@TylerH didn't see the last comments, I'm watching the OP since an hour and only saw input from Paulie_D
 
Ah, yeah it may have come after your request
For that reason though I tend to wait for at least a couple hours before voting to close something that's so easily salvageable
I expect OP to be around at least for a couple minutes after asking typically, and then at least a couple times within the following 1-3 hours (most questions I guess get asked during work hours so folks get busy)
 
ok, lets see, I retract my CV if something happens
 
But that's obviously a per-person preference
If reopening questions happened as much/as easily as closing questions did on SO, I would tend to close a lot more quickly for these types
but as it is closing a question so often dooms it regardless of the followup efforts of the OP
 
@TylerH that's unfortunately very true, once closed, it pretty much stays close most of the time
 
5:03 PM
And that's the problem with folks trying to enforce the system no matter what
Eager to close but when questions don't get reopened in a timely fashion, or ever, they handwave it as "review is slow" / "maybe your question still sucks"
 
^ I try to always act on questions with the best interest of the asker in mind... doesn't always happen, though
but I feel like that's the best way to make a positive impact across the site and individually
 
5:42 PM
do you RO guys have tools to help moving obsolete requests? Or you select all those messages by hand?
 
5:54 PM
@iBug We have a user script
 
6:30 PM
@iBug we have enslaved shogs 1 through 8 with that task
2
 
6:43 PM
@TylerH The ninth proved too powerful
 
@MadaraUchiha Truly the Ninth Rikudo is something to behold
 
Rikudo Shog, now that's a scary thought.
 
@SmokeDetector Do we un-del that because of its answer? Anyone with Python/tkinter knowledge?
 
7:01 PM
@Adriaan I would say yes, the answer looks good
 
7:18 PM
Using the wrong formula for calculating Kelvin degrees
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Kelvin. Kelvin doesn't go in degrees
 
I'll favourite it for the time being, and will vote to delete when I get around
 
8:10 PM
 
8:34 PM
@EJoshuaS FWIW that was a troll. The image and the language amounts to nothing but a troll
 
@SmokeDetector The user has an earlier answer which is more clearly trolling. IMO, this is intended as another trolling answer.
 
@NathanOliver Seemed borderline to me because the offensive parts could be edited out, in which case it was mostly just the poster whining
I could be wrong, though
 
@EJoshuaS You're not really supposed to edit that out. If they said something like You can't use foo because it's s***, use bar instead, then you can edit. In this case all it is is trolling and should be nuked.
 
FWIW they did have legitimate content as well
Their question wasn't great, but it was still actual content that wasn't trolling. I'm not convinced that the entire account was a troll account due to the fact that it had the legitimate content too. The answer was probably borderline trolling vs NAA.
 
 
2 hours later…
10:58 PM
before I went missing last year and I had to rebuild my machine there was a user script that showed how many votes a close request had. Can't remember it though.
 
@Nkosi Showed it where? In the chat room?
 
yeah it would include the vote count on the right side of the cv-pls requests
I remember I was testing it for someone in the room.
 
@Nkosi That would be the beta version of the Unclosed Request Review Script: (GitHub) (install).
 
Yeeeees...that's the stuff.
@Makyen Thank you kindly sir.
 
np. I'm happy to help.
 

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